Beware the Marxist world of Kamalla Harris: "There’s a big difference between equality and equity."

[TruthNotBS]

Pay rent and eat and go to the doctor yeah, no one is forcing anyone to make a family to support if they’re unable to. And what’s crazy is you can work multiple jobs if you don’t have a family at home to take care of. Weird though there’s that word again that scares you so much, WORK

How about society just allow personal property for personal use and prohibit private property used to exploit human beings for profit? That would solve many of our economic and social problems. If I had to choose between having a little dictator capitalist as my employer and boss, or my government, I would rather have my government be my employer and boss. At least my government holds elections and takes the profits it generates and deposits it in the public treasury, where that money is used to serve me, not purchase another megayacht or Ferrari for a rich capitalist parasite.

 

[TruthNotBS]

You remind me of an old man in my town. A friend of mine even. My boss owns a plaza, and part of that plaza is a gas station, one day when I was talking to my friend let’s call him Jeff cause I don’t really know many Jeff’s, and my boss and I and Jeff were hanging outside his convenience store having some beers during our conversation the old man told my boss “yeah cause your gas is free you don’t have to pay for it” the old man doesn’t realize my boss already bought allllll of the gas that he then sells so even if he drives his truck and fills up the tank without putting $ into the register like the rest of us do doesn’t mean he didn’t pay for it. These employers also are consumers as well bird brain

They're consuming the resources generated by other people's labor. Gas station convenience stores are often robbed and it's the employees who have to deal with those violent criminals, not the wealthy owner of the business, who is probably sleeping in his 6-room waterfront mansion or at the country club playing gulf. You're the imbecile, especially if you're a working-class person, defending your wage slavery and exploitation.

 

[dblack]

For the multimillionaires and billionaires, it's exactly that.

Nope. If they don't allocate their money productively, they lose it. I know you know this, so I won't bother explaining. Keep shilling.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Yes, the people that make up all those companies, have to work to live....geez

But they don't own those companies, or keep the profits, a wealthy capitalist does. The workers should then own the company collectively as a cooperative, running it democratically. That would be more just than using public funds to support wealthy dictatorial capitalists.

Just give the company to the government and let the government be the manager and boss, under the authority of the people. At least our government holds elections. When was the last time a capitalist held an election? It doesn't happen. They're little dictator parasites living off of the government and the labor of their employees. You like that don;t you? You're into capitalist parasites, getting their welfare checks from the government and leeching off of other people's labor. You brainwashed, working-class bootlickers, love that shit because you're hoping to strike it rich one day and become a little dictator capitalist Feif-Lord yourself.

 

[WEATHER53]

Libs feel they are owed a living with the standard of life they wish for because they feel they are owed it by breathing and wishing. Feelings are facts to this childish bunch

 

[Tyrion234]

They're consuming the resources generated by other people's labor. Gas station convenience stores are often robbed and it's the employees who have to deal with those violent criminals, not the wealthy owner of the business, who is probably sleeping in his 6-room waterfront mansion or at the country club playing gulf. You're the imbecile, especially if you're a working-class person, defending your wage slavery and exploitation.

Actually my boss works some night shifts at both the gas station and convenience store he owns, he likes interacting with the customers hence why we hang out at his convenience store often and interact with his customers. And when sh*t happens to the store/gas station/restaurant/plaza whatever it be like when someone threw a rock through his window and took the $ out of the cash drawer and all the Newport 100’s I’m pretty sure he didn’t ask me to pay for any of it. His insurance (that he pays for) took care of the window and maybe the $ and smokes too (I never asked him, so perhaps he just chalked it up as a loss) so once again he pays me to do my job I agree on the value I bring and we go about our lives as friends as well as boss and subordinate.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Nope. If they don't allocate their money productively, they lose it. I know you know this, so I won't bother explaining. Keep shilling.

UUUuuu giving some of your liquid assets to an investment firm is such hard work. When you're a multi-millionaire, you don't have to work unless you want to. You can just live off the trust or dividend of your investments, which are managed by professional brokers. You obviously don't have a clue how the wealthy invest. To compare what I just mentioned to a working-class person who has to get off his or her ass and go to work every day is just asinine.

 

[struth]

But they don't own those companies, or keep the profits, a wealthy capitalist does. The workers should then own the company collectively as a cooperative, running it democratically. That would be more just than using public funds to support wealthy dictatorial capitalists.

Just give the company to the government and let the government be the manager and boss, under the authority of the people. At least our government holds elections. When was the last time a capitalist held an election? It doesn't happen. They're little dictator parasites living off of the government and the labor of their employees. You like that don;t you? You're into capitalist parasites, getting their welfare checks from the government and leeching off of other people's labor. You brainwashed, working-class bootlickers, love that shit because you're hoping to strike it rich one day and become a little dictator capitalist Feif-Lord yourself.

What are you talking about? People own those companies, many are publicly traded…but even the ones that aren’t somebody or group of people own the company and still need to work to live

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You mean like the value they provide to their loved ones or something?

Among other things, yes.

 

[Tyrion234]

They're consuming the resources generated by other people's labor. Gas station convenience stores are often robbed and it's the employees who have to deal with those violent criminals, not the wealthy owner of the business, who is probably sleeping in his 6-room waterfront mansion or at the country club playing gulf. You're the imbecile, especially if you're a working-class person, defending your wage slavery and exploitation.

We all consume the resources generated by other peoples labors, or do you grow your own food and make your own shelter and clothes? Are you also your own doctor and dentist?

 

[Curried Goats]

Among other things, yes.

Ok but that's not what I was referring to.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

They're consuming the resources generated by other people's labor. Gas station convenience stores are often robbed and it's the employees who have to deal with those violent criminals, not the wealthy owner of the business, who is probably sleeping in his 6-room waterfront mansion or at the country club playing gulf. You're the imbecile, especially if you're a working-class person, defending your wage slavery and exploitation.

So don't work at a convenience store.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Actually my boss works some night shifts at both the gas station and convenience store he owns, he likes interacting with the customers hence why we hang out at his convenience store often and interact with his customers. And when sh*t happens to the store/gas station/restaurant/plaza whatever it be like when someone threw a rock through his window and took the $ out of the cash drawer and all the Newport 100’s I’m pretty sure he didn’t ask me to pay for any of it. His insurance (that he pays for) took care of the window and maybe the $ and smokes too (I never asked him, so perhaps he just chalked it up as a loss) so once again he pays me to do my job I agree on the value I bring and we go about our lives as friends as well as boss and subordinate.

He does it because he wants to, not because he has to as you just admited it. If you want to defend your good slave master, that's your prerogative. During slavery, there were good slave-masters, who treated their slaves well. The problem isn't so much with the salve-masters but with the institution of slavery. You're comfortable working for a good master, but nonetheless, you're a wage slave. Are you aware that when your master has access to intelligent robot cashiers, you're out of a job?

For people who work in the food industry:





What billionaires are saying:

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Just like capitalism replaced feudalism, eventually due to advanced automation and AI, socialism (i.e. A marketless, non-profit, rationally planned, more democratic system of mass-production) will replace capitalism. Society will be forced out of necessity to adopt socialism. Even if markets continue to exist, with the government providing everyone with a UI i.e. Universal Income, that will be a form of socialism. Eventually markets will become completely obsolete and unsustainable due to the lack of wage-labor, and society will adopt marketless socialism. Think.

 

[WEATHER53]

What are you talking about? People own those companies, many are publicly traded…but even the ones that aren’t somebody or group of people own the company and still need to work to live

Lib loon kids babbling on about money when they have none and don’t want to put forth effort so they harshly criticize that which they know nothing about

 

[TruthNotBS]

So don't work at a convenience store.

It doesn't matter where you work, you're risking just as much, if not more than the wealthy employer. Your health and life is much more valuable to you than whatever a wealthy entrepreneur is investing in.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Ok but that's not what I was referring to.

I know it wasn't. But people get hung up on things being worded a certain way that does not always accurately describe the meaning behind them and the result in the end is often confusion, misunderstanding and resentment.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

It doesn't matter where you work, you're risking just as much, if not more than the wealthy employer. Your health and life is much more valuable to you than whatever a wealthy entrepreneur is investing in.

Yes, it is. So what's your point?

 

[dblack]

UUUuuu giving some of your liquid assets to an investment firm is such hard work. When you're a multi-millionaire, you don't have to work unless you want to. You can just live off the trust or dividend of your investments, which are managed by professional brokers.

Yep. You can pay someone else to do the work for you, though you'll make far less money (they'll take their cut first). But the work still needs to get done. And you better choose someone who will make productive decisions on what to do with that money, or they'll lose it on your behalf.

The dirty little secret that commies won't acknowledge is that there are capitalists in their system too. Every large economy requires them. Someone must make decisions regarding the allocation of capital and labor. In a free market, these decisions are made by private investors. They're driven by profit. If they allocate the money in ways that provide society with its wants and needs, they'll make money. If they don't, they'll lose money. They have a stake in the outcome of their decisions.

In a state-run economy, these decisions are made by government employees. They have little stake in the outcome, other than keeping their job, and their motivations are more likely to be political, rather than driven by the needs and wants of consumers.

 

[Tyrion234]

He does it because he wants to, not because he has to as you just admited it. If you want to defend your good slave master, that's your prerogative. During slavery, there were good slave-masters, who treated their slaves well. The problem isn't so much with the salve-masters but with the institution of slavery. You're comfortable working for a good master, but nonetheless, you're a wage slave. Are you aware that when your master has access to intelligent robot cashiers, you're out of a job?

For people who work in the food industry:





What billionaires are saying:

​

Just like capitalism replaced feudalism, eventually due to advanced automation and AI, socialism (i.e. A marketless, non-profit, rationally planned, more democratic system of mass-production) will replace capitalism. Society will be forced out of necessity to adopt socialism. Even if markets continue to exist, with the government providing everyone with a UI i.e. Universal Income, that will be a form of socialism. Eventually markets will become completely obsolete and unsustainable due to the lack of wage-labor, and society will adopt marketless socialism. Think.

I’m not his cashier, but think what you want. And no he doesn’t need to but he enjoys the interaction and saves money by doing so not to mention the headache of hiring training only to have to do so every so often in a high turnover industry. He also does his own landscaping of his store and plaza, he also buys things and spends $ on his own expenses and taxes and frivolous things as well but according to you only the slaves are consumers…

 

[Curried Goats]

I know it wasn't. But people get hung up on things being worded a certain way that does not always accurately describe the meaning behind them and the result in the end is often confusion, misunderstanding and resentment.

You mean people like yourself?

Like I said, both me and the person who I was speaking to understood each other just fine.