Remodeling Maidiac
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GM & the UAW drove automakers into the ground not Biden. And it sounds like that woman played a huge role in it but hey! Diversity!
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The EV's became obsolete with the advent of the horse & buggy.Nobody wants those STUPID electric cars! Joe, you hear that?
Yeah, the UAW is a big part of that. Toyota is non union so that could be responsible for the price disparity. The Tundras are built in San Antonio. I bought my forever truck in 2011--F250 Super Duty. Still like new. No complaintsThese American auto makers are screwing the pooch
Many families are 2 car families.
How many of yours are electric? Battery powered autos will be surpassed by hydrogen cell vehicles.
GM is on the ropes, financially. And guess who drove them to near ruin? Did you say it was Biden? Or was it Gavin Newsom? What about both of them?
Yeah, the UAW is a big part of that. Toyota is non union so that could be responsible for the price disparity. The Tundras are built in San Antonio. I bought my forever truck in 2011--F250 Super Duty. Still like new. No complaints
Estimated average pay Production worker AT GM Texas $18.73
average at GM in the US:
Average salary
$16.67
Assembler hourly salaries in the United States at General Motors $22.35 Average salary
Production Assembler hourly salaries in the United States at General Motors $20.42
General Worker hourly salaries in the United States at General Motors $18.89
lol these aren't even minimum wage, adjusted for real inflation. GM averages around 32 hours-34 hours labor per car. Average labor costs are less than $800 per car. Average transaction costs for GM cars'
The average transaction price for all GM models was $51,000 in calendar 2022, a substantial premium over the industry ATP of $49,507 last year, according to Cox Automotive.Jan 31, 2023
GM Says Its EVs Are Priced Right, Won’t Chase Tesla, Ford MSRP Cuts
But will GM follow Tesla’s switch to 4680 cylindrical batteries?www.autoweek.com
GM's average transaction price (ATP) edged to $51,431, 1.1% higher compared to the same quarter a year ago, according to Cox Automotive calculations. In a sign that overall price growth is slowing or even retreating a bit, GM's Q1 ATP is down from $52,849 in the last quarter of 2022.Apr 24, 2023
Cox Automotive Analysis: General Motors’ Q1 2023 U.S. Market Performance - Cox Automotive Inc.
Cox Automotive analyzes General Motors' quarterly market performance including sales, prices, incentives and market share.www.coxautoinc.com
Any more bullshit lies about '$60 an hour assembly line workers, cuz unions'? Average pay of $22 an hour works out to about 1.4% of the average price they're sold for. The spend almost 3 times that just on advertising and buyer incentives alone.
You should do more visiting around. A personal solar panel will charge an ebike. That system will not be going away anytime soon because when the equipment is paid for, travel is near to $0.0 per mile. It only costs $0.25 per charge from the grid. Double battery ebike systems now have a 100 mile range, sans the mother-in-law and the family dog.And just like magic zillion mega-watt solar and wind power plants will just jump up out of nowhere and supply all the juice! lol not.
A personal solar panel will charge an ebike
Hydrogen has the same problem as EVs: No infrastructure!Many families are 2 car families.
How many of yours are electric? Battery powered autos will be surpassed by hydrogen cell vehicles.
Hydrogen tanks would need to be HUGE and they can also blow up. Ever see a car take out a gas pump? Imagine one taking out an entire city block by taking out a hydrogen pump!The infrastructue can be added in a very fast time. All it takes is adding a hydrogen tank to your gas stations. What safety concerns? The tanks in the cars were especially designed not to be harmed even in a very serious traffic accident. These cars recharge as they drive them
You mouth off about something you've not done in three real-time dimensions? Especially this summer? You're one of those paranoids who sees the cup half emp-ty most of the time.As long as you don't want to ride it this month yes, they will, lol
I doubt you mean that gasoline fires are safe.Hydrogen tanks would need to be HUGE and they can also blow up. Ever see a car take out a gas pump? Imagine one taking out an entire city block by taking out a hydrogen pump!
EVs have more stations but hydrogen stations are being added daily.Hydrogen has the same problem as EVs: No infrastructure!
You won't find me riding an E bike this century. And here at my sons home, he has one. And he does not use it at all.You should do more visiting around. A personal solar panel will charge an ebike. That system will not be going away anytime soon because when the equipment is paid for, travel is near to $0.0 per mile. It only costs $0.25 per charge from the grid. Double battery ebike systems now have a 100 mile range, sans the mother-in-law and the family dog.
Monkeys like Musk are too greedy. Neither do they have the IQ to adjust for the many poor people. Instead of standardized batteries, Musk teams with BP for fast charging stations, which is still too slow. Pre-charged vending machines for standardized batteries will likely enter the ebike market before entering this other monstrosity.
E bikes are useless here for six months out of the year. They have Lime bikes in Spokane. They are useful from May to Oct. but they are always fishing them out of the Spokane river. I don't know how they make any money.You won't find me riding an E bike this century. And here at my sons home, he has one. And he does not use it at all.