Biden Calls For A Gun Ban After Colorado Shooting

almost every gun on the southside of chicago is for sale to anyone with money. you're so naïve you're still in diapers.
You've got to be in good standing with the Chicago Outfit, Crips or the Bloods, AVLN, or whatever gang rules the neighborhood, or *they* don't let you buy a gun either. And the feds are always on same side of the law as all those gangsters and mobsters in court.
 
You brought up addressing mental health. You expect people to treat themselves?
Your reading comprehension level sucks.

I brought up the fact that Liberals / Democrats TALK about authoring legislation designed to address mentally ill people from owning guns yet never doing anything about it / never doing it....and, STILL - as people can see - you are continuing to attempt these BS....FAILED....distractions.

So why DO Democrats fail to follow-through with their repeated promises of authoring legislation to address mental illness and gun ownership:?

In this new gun legislation Democrats could provide / address health care for mental ill patients.

(Why didn't Barry and the Democrats who rammed the minority-supported Obamacare down the throats of the majority of Americans who did not want it fail to address metal health care in their bill? Thanks for admitting Obamacare was a failed health care bill that did not address mental health....but again, this is a seperate topic that should be kept in a separate thread.)


The answer to your question is this...

Back in 1994, the democrat party passed the Assault Weapon ban......and partly because of this, the activation of gun owners, they lost control of the House of Representatives after 40 years........

This taught hilary and obama a hard lesson.....don't pass laws, appoint judges. Then let the democrat party cities and states pass extreme gun control laws...which is easier at that level, then have your democrat party judges at the Federal level declare them Constitutional....

That is why.
This has some well thought integrity on its face. But I am not sure it is supported by events.

it if, in fact, what you say is true, why did Obama leave so many federal judge seats vacant? And you can not deny....he left an enormous amount vacant.
 
You brought up addressing mental health. You expect people to treat themselves?
Your reading comprehension level sucks.

I brought up the fact that Liberals / Democrats TALK about authoring legislation designed to address mentally ill people from owning guns yet never doing anything about it / never doing it....and, STILL - as people can see - you are continuing to attempt these BS....FAILED....distractions.

So why DO Democrats fail to follow-through with their repeated promises of authoring legislation to address mental illness and gun ownership:?

In this new gun legislation Democrats could provide / address health care for mental ill patients.

(Why didn't Barry and the Democrats who rammed the minority-supported Obamacare down the throats of the majority of Americans who did not want it fail to address metal health care in their bill? Thanks for admitting Obamacare was a failed health care bill that did not address mental health....but again, this is a seperate topic that should be kept in a separate thread.)


The answer to your question is this...

Back in 1994, the democrat party passed the Assault Weapon ban......and partly because of this, the activation of gun owners, they lost control of the House of Representatives after 40 years........

This taught hilary and obama a hard lesson.....don't pass laws, appoint judges. Then let the democrat party cities and states pass extreme gun control laws...which is easier at that level, then have your democrat party judges at the Federal level declare them Constitutional....

That is why.
This has some well thought integrity on its face. But I am not sure it is supported by events.

it if, in fact, what you say is true, why did Obama leave so many federal judge seats vacant? And you can not deny....he left an enormous amount vacant.


He is lazy. He has never been particularly energetic. Also, his thing was taking over healthcare.....he didn't want any gun control votes to endanger his control over the congress, allowing the republicans to undercut obamacare.....so he was lazy and uninterested.....
 
So some liberal extremist, Trump-Hating Whack-a-doodle with a Muslim-sounding name goes on a shooting spree, and Biden and the Democrats rush to use this as an excuse to strip LAW-ABIDING citizens of their 2nd Amendment Rights.

During the foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic-terrorist violence of Antifa looting, pillaging, destroying, arsonist, raping, assaulting, and murdering Antifa terrorist acts in Democrat-run communities all over the country - that caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage and destroyed many Americans businesses / dreams...

Democrats arrested a couple for holding their legally-owned, Constitutionally protected personal weapons on their own property in front of their own house - in a 'Stand-Your Ground' state, to protect themselves and ther home from violent protestors who threatened their lives and threatened to burn down their House.

The trespassing terrorists were arrested for trespassing....and have already been released. The case by a liberal extremist AG against the couple is still on-going, has not been dropped, despite the fact that they did not do anything illegal and a bipartisan effort to get the charges dropped is on-going.

Biden and the Democrats, who are just screwing the majority of Americans as hard as they can as fast as they can have turned DC into the Iraqi 'Green Zone' defended by National Guard Troops because they are so deathly afraid that the Americans they are screwing and whose country they are turning into a 3rd-world socialist tyrannical country are going to rise up against them for what they are doing.


To ensure a successful revolt against their tyrannical transformation f this nation into a single-party Socialist state they HAVE to take the guns out of the hands of the people.

'Hell yes, we are coming after your AR-15s!'
- A bill has already been submitted by proven CCP Espionage Facilitator Diane Feinstein

Hell YES, we are coming for your guns. There was never any doubt.
Gun control isn't a gun ban. No reasonable person should believe that's the case.
explain what your version of gun control is then?
Once you use the word "control" it brings in a third party. The entity that controls things. So who will that be? What guidelines will they follow? Who determines those guidelines?
And most important.......Are those guidelines objective or subjective?
 
You brought it up. You blamed the Democrats for blocking health care coverage.
You're a liar, as al lcan see. I did not bring up HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. I brought up the fact that Liberals / Democrats TALK about authoring legislation designed to address mentally ill people from owning guns yet never doing anything about it / never doing it....and, STILL - as people can see - you are contiuing to attempt these BS....FAILED....distractions.

So why DO Democrats fail to follow-through with their repeated promises of authoring legislation to address mental illness and gun ownership:?

You brought up addressing mental health. You expect people to treat themselves?
why did states shut down facilities then?

You don't ask a question to answer a question.

If you have no answer, I understand.
 
Mental illness is clearly what we are dealing with. If it was just guns, we would have millions of people murdered daily.

We have like 400 million guns in the USA. These mass shootings are rare IN THAT CONTEXT.

HOW MANY OF THESE MASS SHOOTERS HAVE A DAD IN THE HOUSE?
 
You brought up addressing mental health. You expect people to treat themselves?
Your reading comprehension level sucks.

I brought up the fact that Liberals / Democrats TALK about authoring legislation designed to address mentally ill people from owning guns yet never doing anything about it / never doing it....and, STILL - as people can see - you are continuing to attempt these BS....FAILED....distractions.

So why DO Democrats fail to follow-through with their repeated promises of authoring legislation to address mental illness and gun ownership:?

In this new gun legislation Democrats could provide / address health care for mental ill patients.

(Why didn't Barry and the Democrats who rammed the minority-supported Obamacare down the throats of the majority of Americans who did not want it fail to address metal health care in their bill? Thanks for admitting Obamacare was a failed health care bill that did not address mental health....but again, this is a seperate topic that should be kept in a separate thread.)


The answer to your question is this...

Back in 1994, the democrat party passed the Assault Weapon ban......and partly because of this, the activation of gun owners, they lost control of the House of Representatives after 40 years........

This taught hilary and obama a hard lesson.....don't pass laws, appoint judges. Then let the democrat party cities and states pass extreme gun control laws...which is easier at that level, then have your democrat party judges at the Federal level declare them Constitutional....

That is why.
This has some well thought integrity on its face. But I am not sure it is supported by events.

it if, in fact, what you say is true, why did Obama leave so many federal judge seats vacant? And you can not deny....he left an enormous amount vacant.


He is lazy. He has never been particularly energetic. Also, his thing was taking over healthcare.....he didn't want any gun control votes to endanger his control over the congress, allowing the republicans to undercut obamacare.....so he was lazy and uninterested.....
Perhaps...

But he had many years in office post the ACA passing,,,,

So perhaps lazy and uninterested.....I get that....but how can you say he knew it best to have the courts decide when, in fact, he didnt think it worth his time to appoint judges?
 
Mental illness is clearly what we are dealing with. If it was just guns, we would have millions of people murdered daily.

We have like 400 million guns in the USA. These mass shootings are rare IN THAT CONTEXT.

HOW MANY OF THESE MASS SHOOTERS HAVE A DAD IN THE HOUSE?

As you noted earlier, if that was the issue there would be thousands mass shootings.
 
almost every gun on the southside of chicago is for sale to anyone with money. you're so naïve you're still in diapers.
You've got to be in good standing with the Chicago Outfit, Crips or the Bloods, AVLN, or whatever gang rules the neighborhood, or *they* don't let you buy a gun either. And the feds are always on same side of the law as all those gangsters and mobsters in court.
When the Chicago Bears have to change their name because of species appropriation, they should change it to the Chicago Outfit.
 
Still I never see them.
So if you dont see them, they dont exist?
Are you one who believes the only guns sold are sold legally because you dont see those that sell them illegally?

So if you never saw a 60 year old guy rape his 10 year old niece, then there are no pedophiles out there?

Do you not realize that people that commit crimes do all they can to not be seen?

Your attitude toward this conversation is naïve.

Our southern border is so secure that 6,000 CHILDREN come across it a day, no way bad guys could get guns through that?

It would be nice to think of people like miketx and konradv as just naïve, but they know that, they are evil demanding we disarm Americans for their politic hate
Just cause I ain't seen guns sold on the street corner I'm a gun banner now? Eat shit and Die ya pos. Bye.

Read where you said it. It's a typical leftist bull shit snarky response that makes no sense. How many times have you seen something like that from a leftist as if it's an argument?

So what is your point with that moronic statement?
 
Still I never see them.
So if you dont see them, they dont exist?
Are you one who believes the only guns sold are sold legally because you dont see those that sell them illegally?

So if you never saw a 60 year old guy rape his 10 year old niece, then there are no pedophiles out there?

Do you not realize that people that commit crimes do all they can to not be seen?

Your attitude toward this conversation is naïve.

Our southern border is so secure that 6,000 CHILDREN come across it a day, no way bad guys could get guns through that?

It would be nice to think of people like miketx and konradv as just naïve, but they know that, they are evil demanding we disarm Americans for their politic hate
Just cause I ain't seen guns sold on the street corner I'm a gun banner now? Eat shit and Die ya pos. Bye.

Read where you said it. It's a typical leftist bull shit snarky response that makes no sense. How many times have you seen something like that from a leftist as if it's an argument?

So what is your point with that moronic statement?
Here is the point...

" I can not give a credible response to your position in the debate so instead I will cloud the issue with unintelligible gibberish and then criticize you when you have no response to my unintelligible gibberish."
 
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almost every gun on the southside of chicago is for sale to anyone with money. you're so naïve you're still in diapers.
You've got to be in good standing with the Chicago Outfit, Crips or the Bloods, AVLN, or whatever gang rules the neighborhood, or *they* don't let you buy a gun either. And the feds are always on same side of the law as all those gangsters and mobsters in court.
Yeah you keep believing nonsense. Guns for sale all over the country. Gun control idiots like you are a dime a dozen
 
You brought it up. You blamed the Democrats for blocking health care coverage.
You're a liar, as al lcan see. I did not bring up HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. I brought up the fact that Liberals / Democrats TALK about authoring legislation designed to address mentally ill people from owning guns yet never doing anything about it / never doing it....and, STILL - as people can see - you are contiuing to attempt these BS....FAILED....distractions.

So why DO Democrats fail to follow-through with their repeated promises of authoring legislation to address mental illness and gun ownership:?

You brought up addressing mental health. You expect people to treat themselves?
why did states shut down facilities then?

You don't ask a question to answer a question.

If you have no answer, I understand.
I wasn’t answering a question, I merely asked one, and you punted
 
It didn't bring down mass shootings. There also was NO assault weapon ban. Even with the "ban" there were tens of thousands of legally owned "assault weapons" in the country.


You stupid commies have no clue what an assault weapon is. More people die from blunt force trauma than all long guns combined. Are you gonna ban hammers and baseball bats as well?

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It's close to time to try and find a place where adults post. I state a simple fact and you call me names. Grow up.

I believe people should be able to own any weapon they want.


Perhaps you should grow a set and stop calling sporting rifles, assault weapons. That's what commies do. Most folks don't know that the AR platform was being sold to civilians a couple of years before the military took an interest in them.

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So some liberal extremist, Trump-Hating Whack-a-doodle with a Muslim-sounding name goes on a shooting spree, and Biden and the Democrats rush to use this as an excuse to strip LAW-ABIDING citizens of their 2nd Amendment Rights.

During the foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic-terrorist violence of Antifa looting, pillaging, destroying, arsonist, raping, assaulting, and murdering Antifa terrorist acts in Democrat-run communities all over the country - that caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage and destroyed many Americans businesses / dreams...

Democrats arrested a couple for holding their legally-owned, Constitutionally protected personal weapons on their own property in front of their own house - in a 'Stand-Your Ground' state, to protect themselves and ther home from violent protestors who threatened their lives and threatened to burn down their House.

The trespassing terrorists were arrested for trespassing....and have already been released. The case by a liberal extremist AG against the couple is still on-going, has not been dropped, despite the fact that they did not do anything illegal and a bipartisan effort to get the charges dropped is on-going.

Biden and the Democrats, who are just screwing the majority of Americans as hard as they can as fast as they can have turned DC into the Iraqi 'Green Zone' defended by National Guard Troops because they are so deathly afraid that the Americans they are screwing and whose country they are turning into a 3rd-world socialist tyrannical country are going to rise up against them for what they are doing.


To ensure a successful revolt against their tyrannical transformation f this nation into a single-party Socialist state they HAVE to take the guns out of the hands of the people.

'Hell yes, we are coming after your AR-15s!'
- A bill has already been submitted by proven CCP Espionage Facilitator Diane Feinstein

Hell YES, we are coming for your guns. There was never any doubt.
Gun control isn't a gun ban. No reasonable person should believe that's the case.
explain what your version of gun control is then?
Once you use the word "control" it brings in a third party. The entity that controls things. So who will that be? What guidelines will they follow? Who determines those guidelines?
And most important.......Are those guidelines objective or subjective?
No such legal term
 
You brought up addressing mental health. You expect people to treat themselves?
Your reading comprehension level sucks.

I brought up the fact that Liberals / Democrats TALK about authoring legislation designed to address mentally ill people from owning guns yet never doing anything about it / never doing it....and, STILL - as people can see - you are continuing to attempt these BS....FAILED....distractions.

So why DO Democrats fail to follow-through with their repeated promises of authoring legislation to address mental illness and gun ownership:?

In this new gun legislation Democrats could provide / address health care for mental ill patients.

(Why didn't Barry and the Democrats who rammed the minority-supported Obamacare down the throats of the majority of Americans who did not want it fail to address metal health care in their bill? Thanks for admitting Obamacare was a failed health care bill that did not address mental health....but again, this is a seperate topic that should be kept in a separate thread.)


The answer to your question is this...

Back in 1994, the democrat party passed the Assault Weapon ban......and partly because of this, the activation of gun owners, they lost control of the House of Representatives after 40 years........

This taught hilary and obama a hard lesson.....don't pass laws, appoint judges. Then let the democrat party cities and states pass extreme gun control laws...which is easier at that level, then have your democrat party judges at the Federal level declare them Constitutional....

That is why.
This has some well thought integrity on its face. But I am not sure it is supported by events.

it if, in fact, what you say is true, why did Obama leave so many federal judge seats vacant? And you can not deny....he left an enormous amount vacant.


He is lazy. He has never been particularly energetic. Also, his thing was taking over healthcare.....he didn't want any gun control votes to endanger his control over the congress, allowing the republicans to undercut obamacare.....so he was lazy and uninterested.....
Perhaps...

But he had many years in office post the ACA passing,,,,

So perhaps lazy and uninterested.....I get that....but how can you say he knew it best to have the courts decide when, in fact, he didnt think it worth his time to appoint judges?

It wasn't his primary issue....so he didn't care. He is a really lazy guy....
 
The States have had 230+ years to figure this out and they're still screwing-up.

Time to either (a) take control away from them or (b) issue Federal guidelines that each State must comply with.

Not to take guns away.... not to infringe upon rights... but to save lives by ensuring that the "militia" is "well regulated" with respect to firearms.

* Federal database accessible to both law enforcement and private citizens
* Federal identification number for each firearm owner
* Federal identification number for each firearm
* Federal identification number for each approved firearms transfer ( sale, inheritance, loan, etc. )
* Mandatory waiting period for all transfers ( no more same-day transfers, including gun-shows )
* Federal Red Flagging of citizens prohibited from possessing firearms ( and related mechanisms for disputing or removing or renewing )
* Federal enforcement of Federal standards in jurisdictions designated as not complying with Federal statute on the subject
* No transfers ( sale, inheritance, loan, etc. ) without a Federal transaction-approval number
* Limits on the number of firearms ( a half-dozen?) that any single citizen can own
* Limits on the amount of ammunition ( a couple of hundred rounds per weapon? ) that any single citizen can own
* Limits on the capacity of magazines ( twenty rounds? thirty? ) for any repeating weapon
* Standards for secure storage and transportation of weapons and ammunition
* Mandatory Federal background investigation prior to issuing a license - with provision for periodic (once every 2-3 renewals?) refresh
* Mandatory training for any class of weapons owned - Federal standards for training content and testing and periodic ( every 10 years? ) refresher
* Refusal or revocation of license or registration to felons or mental defectives - and seizure of weapons owned by same - permanent or temporary
* Seizure of weapons from suspects in violent-crime cases (automatic)
* Seizure of weapons from those reported to have psychological illness ( court warrant required )
* Seizure of weapons from those in violation of licensing or registration or ownership regulations ( court warrant required )
* Compensation for cash value of related items seized for non-criminal cases
* Death penalty for those convicted of intentional killing of another human being using a firearm
* Long prison sentences for those convicted of non-accidental non-lethal injury to another human being using a firearm
* Long prison sentences for any other crime committed using a firearm
* Medium prison sentences for anyone found in possession of a firearm without license or registration ( allowance made for late renewals, etc. )


The same crap pulled by every country that ever stripped their citizens of their ability to defend themselves.

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almost every gun on the southside of chicago is for sale to anyone with money. you're so naïve you're still in diapers.
You've got to be in good standing with the Chicago Outfit, Crips or the Bloods, AVLN, or whatever gang rules the neighborhood, or *they* don't let you buy a gun either. And the feds are always on same side of the law as all those gangsters and mobsters in court.
That's a bit naïve.
If you want to buy a weapon you do not have to be "i9n good standing" with a criminal gang. You only need to know someone who IS in good standing with a criminal gang.
Why are you so blind to the reality of life?

Let me lay it out for you skippy....

Franikie (not in good standing with a criminal gang): "...Georgie....found my wife giving a blow job to Johhny K.......I need to teach him a lesson and shoot his ball sack off. I need a gun"

Georgie: " My peeps wont sell you a gun because you are not in good standing with them. They only sell guns to those they trust."

Frankie; "So what am I supposed to do to get a gun to blow Johnnies ball sack off?"

Georgie: "Pay me 300 smakaroos for the cost of the gun plus another 20% for my fee and I will leave it in your mailbox tomorrow"

Skippy............thats how it works.

Pay attention.

Gangs dont have rules...they have channels.
 
The States have had 230+ years to figure this out and they're still screwing-up.

Time to either (a) take control away from them or (b) issue Federal guidelines that each State must comply with.

Not to take guns away.... not to infringe upon rights... but to save lives by ensuring that the "militia" is "well regulated" with respect to firearms.

* Federal database accessible to both law enforcement and private citizens
* Federal identification number for each firearm owner
* Federal identification number for each firearm
* Federal identification number for each approved firearms transfer ( sale, inheritance, loan, etc. )
* Mandatory waiting period for all transfers ( no more same-day transfers, including gun-shows )
* Federal Red Flagging of citizens prohibited from possessing firearms ( and related mechanisms for disputing or removing or renewing )
* Federal enforcement of Federal standards in jurisdictions designated as not complying with Federal statute on the subject
* No transfers ( sale, inheritance, loan, etc. ) without a Federal transaction-approval number
* Limits on the number of firearms ( a half-dozen?) that any single citizen can own
* Limits on the amount of ammunition ( a couple of hundred rounds per weapon? ) that any single citizen can own
* Limits on the capacity of magazines ( twenty rounds? thirty? ) for any repeating weapon
* Standards for secure storage and transportation of weapons and ammunition
* Mandatory Federal background investigation prior to issuing a license - with provision for periodic (once every 2-3 renewals?) refresh
* Mandatory training for any class of weapons owned - Federal standards for training content and testing and periodic ( every 10 years? ) refresher
* Refusal or revocation of license or registration to felons or mental defectives - and seizure of weapons owned by same - permanent or temporary
* Seizure of weapons from suspects in violent-crime cases (automatic)
* Seizure of weapons from those reported to have psychological illness ( court warrant required )
* Seizure of weapons from those in violation of licensing or registration or ownership regulations ( court warrant required )
* Compensation for cash value of related items seized for non-criminal cases
* Death penalty for those convicted of intentional killing of another human being using a firearm
* Long prison sentences for those convicted of non-accidental non-lethal injury to another human being using a firearm
* Long prison sentences for any other crime committed using a firearm
* Medium prison sentences for anyone found in possession of a firearm without license or registration ( allowance made for late renewals, etc. )


The same crap pulled by every country that ever stripped their citizens of their ability to defend themselves.

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Yep....no need for any of that......if you want to stop 95% of gun crime and gun murder, simply keep the democrat party from releasing known, repeat, violent gun offenders....who they release over and over again.....

Also.....my solution...notice it doesn't take any registration of any gun owner to do this...

I support a life sentence on any criminal who uses a gun for an actual gun crime..... and 30 years if a criminal is caught in possession of a gun, even if they are not using it at that moment for crime.

This will dry up gun crime over night. Criminals will stop using guns for robberies, rapes and murders.....and those who do will be gone forever......

Criminals will also stop walking around with guns in their pants......which is the leading cause of random gang shootings in our cities. if they are stopped by police, with a gun in their pants, they are gone for 30 years...they will stop carrying those guns, and random gang violence will end.

You implement this with two other things...

1) No More Bargaining Away the Gun Charge.........it must be against the law to bargain away a gun charge as part of a plea deal....this stops.

2) When a criminal is arrested for any crime, and booked in...they will be read the announcement that any use of a gun in a crime is a life sentence without parole, owning or carrying a gun as a felon is a 30 year sentence without parole....when they are released from custody...the same will be read to them again....when they meet their parole officer it will be read to them again.....the U.S. government will also buy and send out Public announcements on this policy on t.v. radio. and cable......

That is how you stop gun crime over night.

Mass shooters are different..... but with only 93 people killed in mass public shootings in 2018, they are not the major problem in gun crime.

The value in my plan......it actually targets the individuals actually using guns to commit crimes and murder people....

It does not require new background check laws, it does not require gun licensing, licensing gun owners, gun registration, new taxes, fees or regulations on guns...

By making gun crime a life sentence, criminals will stop using guns for crime and will stop carrying guns around for protection.....

Also....a nurse, with a legal gun, driving from Pennsylvania, to New Jersey, will not be considered a gun criminal.....that will end. Criminals with a record of crime, caught with a gun will get 30 years, no deals.....and criminals who use guns for actual crime...robbing the local store, rape, robbery, murder.....life without parole...

This, of course, eliminates the need for more gun control laws...we can already do this.....

Mass shooters


1) end gun free zones

2) get the media to stop covering mass shootings like it is the Oscars.....

3) We are already seeing this...get people who know these nuts to report these nuts....

4) Make sure the police who know these nuts arrest these nuts when they have the chance so they will pop on background checks....

What does each do to stop mass shooters....

1) keeps shooters from targeting people, since they target gun free zones.

2) The media not covering it like they are the criminal oscars deters copycats...just like they stopped covering teen suicides to stop the copycat effect

3) The only way to stop mass shooters, since they commit no other crime, is for family, coworkers and neighbors to report their violent behavior....the Odessa shooter should have felonies for the crimes he was committing but they didn't report his shooting his weapon from his front porch....

4) The Parkland shooter had 33 contacts with police and numerous contacts with police at his school.....due to Obama's "Promise Program" the police never arrested him for the felonies he committed....so he didn't pop on the background check..
 
He is calling again for the so called assault weapon ban the problem is assault is an act not an object. Using that broad definition you could claim any gun was an assault weapon and ban it. If someone uses a semi automatic pistol and kills ten people or uses a shotgun to do this or a bolt action rifle with a scope and snipes couldn’t they then be considered an assault weapon and subject to being banned.
A sharpened spoon could be an assault weapon--or a thrown rock--ask Goliath.
 

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