Biden Calls For A Gun Ban After Colorado Shooting

[Toddsterpatriot]

All suicides are preventable

Without guns, suicide rate would be much lower.

Why do you feel that?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

He said he would like to see the reinstatement of the 1994 assault rifle ban. For ten years you could not buy anything like an AR-15 and the country did not suffer for it.

Or benefit from it. Couldn't buy guns here in Chicago for a long time.
Made zero difference as far as gun crime.

 

[miketx]

In USA there are about 20,000 gun suicides and 10,000 gun homicides each year.

13,000 suicides by suffocation. So?

Definitely, free Mental Health help would be very beneficial to USA. But guns are extremely dangerous -- like Fentanyl.

How are guns dangerous? Mine just sit there.

 

[miketx]

Guns enable people suffering from Severe Depression to commit suicide. Their lives also have paramount value.

We need to make suicide illegal.

Sadly too many people are Atheists.

I am Jewish. Most Jews, Christians and Muslims agree that suicide is a sin.

It’s also against the law

Suicide is a sin -- it will be punished in the afterlife. Sadly too many people are Atheists.

Maybe if we see someone trying to commit suicide we should shoot them so they won't do it.

 

[White 6]

Who is afraid of guns, Booty? I was a trained weapons instructor on leterally every small arm the military had through the 90s, including grenade launchers and shoulder fired rockets, and of course crew served weapons systems, including 4 deuce mortar and M-60A3 main battle tank and rated expert in all the above. To this day, I keep enough weapons in various part of our home loaded and extra ammo with the goal of being able stand off a platoon size element for hours if it ever became necessary. Ordered a PSA 16" CHF standard 1:7 twist mid-length 5.56 NATO Premium AR-15 Upper from Palmetto State Armory, just yesterday morning to complete a build. You got the wrong guy. I do not fear weapons or explosives (yes, trained and qualified in that also back in the day), and it is with that training and experience, I can say without a doubt, training, qualification, and self discipline are or key to weapons safety and many in the civilian population particulary shouldn't even be trusted with potato gun, much less a fire arm on the streets. Don't expect people like me to get all tore up about your right to cowboy around town with weapons hanging all over your body, like an SF wannabe to show off you toys. Owning cool firepower, also does not change the way many behave. It takes more than plunking down the price of admission to own and that firepower should fall under sensible regulation.

you're afraid of something. Tell us what scares you then if not the gun, the gun is inanimate object.

Idiots scare me, as they are unpredictable. Same thing that keeps the pucker factor up on anybody that has been in charge of as many ranges and live qualifications as I. They can ruin your whole damn day, I swear.

At the prison the range the "instructor" said he would shoot anyone that pointed a gun at him. He also said hollow points were banned because they over penetrate.

You worked at a prison? He was not much of an instructor if he said hollow point were noted for over penetration. The whole point of using hollow points is so the projectile will mushroom on impact, slowing down, staying in the target, imparting all it's energy inside it without going all the way through endangering whoever or whatever is on the other side. For a carry round, I am pretty well set on Federal HST or LE for personal defense carry round in 124 grain and only use ball type ammo for range practice in 124 grain as ball type ammo is a lot less expensive compared to personal defense round, yet with same grain load have the same ballistics and kick to practice realigning on target for subsequent shots.

I carry a 357 sig, but I do have a 9mm spare, and I use Georgia Arms 124 gr JHPs for carry ammo in the 9. Basically just Gold Dots.

The older I get, the less I worry about this stuff, though..... I have run into some old South African and Central and South American cops who have been in more shootouts than most entire big city police departments here in the states, and very few of those gunfighters ever used anything but ball ammo, because that's all they had.

Sensible choice, sensible load. You should carry what you are comfortable with and train with as you already know. I don't think I've seen Georgia Arms ammo here in Jackson, but heck, there's a lot of ammo I used to see here that I don't see anymore.
I would definitely use available rather than throw rocks. I bought a pack of 115 grain Blazer fmj last week because he had it on the shelf but no 124 grain in anything but one single 20 rnd pack of some off brand hollow points at godawful price on a little cart back behind counter and absolutely nothing on the shelves on my side of the counter. Last fall I figure this would be over soon. Guess I was wrong.

I keep the 9mm as a spare in case I have a problem with the primary carry gun, and as a lower cost alternative ammo for doing courses. The only difference between the 2 is the caliber.

A 500 round training course is a lot cheaper with a 9mm than with a 357 sig, or at least it used to be.

You may be better than me and wouldn't surprise me a bit, but I still recommend doing training with same you intend to shoot primary.

 

[Kondor3]

What-the-hell does that twit have to do with whether or not gun-violence in Chicago is out of control?

that a prosecutor runs the city. And, why gun violence isn't prosecuted. But, Black Lives Matter. oh bullshit, not in any demofk control city. it's an oxymoron.

You're preaching to the choir... I think they're Dem-controlled Third-World $hithole$ myself.

 

[Kondor3]

Nobody's looking to take away your pop-guns, Mister Paranoid.

Yep... there are freaks-and-geeks on both sides of the aisle...

1. Beto doesn't represent the majority-thinking on the Dem side of the aisle

2. the 2nd Amendment is every bit as precious to most Dems as it is to Pubs.

3. Beto isn't in-power anymore - although he has a few 2nd-Amendment-look-alikes still in-office, admittedly

 

[Kondor3]

...What makes you keep lying like that?

Oh, but I'm not... it's entirely true... I'm just poking fun at your "side's" paranoia on the subject.

 

[freyasman]

Who is afraid of guns, Booty? I was a trained weapons instructor on leterally every small arm the military had through the 90s, including grenade launchers and shoulder fired rockets, and of course crew served weapons systems, including 4 deuce mortar and M-60A3 main battle tank and rated expert in all the above. To this day, I keep enough weapons in various part of our home loaded and extra ammo with the goal of being able stand off a platoon size element for hours if it ever became necessary. Ordered a PSA 16" CHF standard 1:7 twist mid-length 5.56 NATO Premium AR-15 Upper from Palmetto State Armory, just yesterday morning to complete a build. You got the wrong guy. I do not fear weapons or explosives (yes, trained and qualified in that also back in the day), and it is with that training and experience, I can say without a doubt, training, qualification, and self discipline are or key to weapons safety and many in the civilian population particulary shouldn't even be trusted with potato gun, much less a fire arm on the streets. Don't expect people like me to get all tore up about your right to cowboy around town with weapons hanging all over your body, like an SF wannabe to show off you toys. Owning cool firepower, also does not change the way many behave. It takes more than plunking down the price of admission to own and that firepower should fall under sensible regulation.

you're afraid of something. Tell us what scares you then if not the gun, the gun is inanimate object.

Idiots scare me, as they are unpredictable. Same thing that keeps the pucker factor up on anybody that has been in charge of as many ranges and live qualifications as I. They can ruin your whole damn day, I swear.

At the prison the range the "instructor" said he would shoot anyone that pointed a gun at him. He also said hollow points were banned because they over penetrate.

You worked at a prison? He was not much of an instructor if he said hollow point were noted for over penetration. The whole point of using hollow points is so the projectile will mushroom on impact, slowing down, staying in the target, imparting all it's energy inside it without going all the way through endangering whoever or whatever is on the other side. For a carry round, I am pretty well set on Federal HST or LE for personal defense carry round in 124 grain and only use ball type ammo for range practice in 124 grain as ball type ammo is a lot less expensive compared to personal defense round, yet with same grain load have the same ballistics and kick to practice realigning on target for subsequent shots.

I carry a 357 sig, but I do have a 9mm spare, and I use Georgia Arms 124 gr JHPs for carry ammo in the 9. Basically just Gold Dots.

The older I get, the less I worry about this stuff, though..... I have run into some old South African and Central and South American cops who have been in more shootouts than most entire big city police departments here in the states, and very few of those gunfighters ever used anything but ball ammo, because that's all they had.

Sensible choice, sensible load. You should carry what you are comfortable with and train with as you already know. I don't think I've seen Georgia Arms ammo here in Jackson, but heck, there's a lot of ammo I used to see here that I don't see anymore.
I would definitely use available rather than throw rocks. I bought a pack of 115 grain Blazer fmj last week because he had it on the shelf but no 124 grain in anything but one single 20 rnd pack of some off brand hollow points at godawful price on a little cart back behind counter and absolutely nothing on the shelves on my side of the counter. Last fall I figure this would be over soon. Guess I was wrong.

I keep the 9mm as a spare in case I have a problem with the primary carry gun, and as a lower cost alternative ammo for doing courses. The only difference between the 2 is the caliber.

A 500 round training course is a lot cheaper with a 9mm than with a 357 sig, or at least it used to be.

You may be better than me and wouldn't surprise me a bit, but I still recommend doing training with same you intend to shoot primary.

Nowadays, that's fine...... go on gunbroker and compare bulk 9mm vs 357 sig. Used to be 357 sig was damn near triple the price, but not anymore.

I always trained with my primary, but there is still plenty of good training value in using the 9mm, just like there is in dry fire practice, or in using 22lr conversions, or even realistic Airsoft guns.
I'm more into software training these days anyway. I don't need a 1.5 second draw and engage if I can see the potential problem coming 3 minutes out, and just leave, or go over and neutralize it first.

 

[ClaireH]

So some liberal extremist, Trump-Hating Whack-a-doodle with a Muslim-sounding name goes on a shooting spree, and Biden and the Democrats rush to use this as an excuse to strip LAW-ABIDING citizens of their 2nd Amendment Rights.

During the foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic-terrorist violence of Antifa looting, pillaging, destroying, arsonist, raping, assaulting, and murdering Antifa terrorist acts in Democrat-run communities all over the country - that caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage and destroyed many Americans businesses / dreams...

Democrats arrested a couple for holding their legally-owned, Constitutionally protected personal weapons on their own property in front of their own house - in a 'Stand-Your Ground' state, to protect themselves and ther home from violent protestors who threatened their lives and threatened to burn down their House.

The trespassing terrorists were arrested for trespassing....and have already been released. The case by a liberal extremist AG against the couple is still on-going, has not been dropped, despite the fact that they did not do anything illegal and a bipartisan effort to get the charges dropped is on-going.

Biden and the Democrats, who are just screwing the majority of Americans as hard as they can as fast as they can have turned DC into the Iraqi 'Green Zone' defended by National Guard Troops because they are so deathly afraid that the Americans they are screwing and whose country they are turning into a 3rd-world socialist tyrannical country are going to rise up against them for what they are doing.

To ensure a successful revolt against their tyrannical transformation f this nation into a single-party Socialist state they HAVE to take the guns out of the hands of the people.

'Hell yes, we are coming after your AR-15s!'
- A bill has already been submitted by proven CCP Espionage Facilitator Diane Feinstein

Hell YES, we are coming for your guns. There was never any doubt.

Biden calls on Senate to pass gun control measures 'immediately' after Boulder shooting

President Biden on Tuesday implored the Senate to pass new gun control measures in the wake of a mass shooting that left 10 dead in Boulder, Colorado, this week.

www.foxnews.com

Stop with the hyperbole. He said he would like to see the reinstatement of the 1994 assault rifle ban. For ten years you could not buy anything like an AR-15 and the country did not suffer for it.

Of course the country did. We suffer whenever our freedoms are oppressed.

And there was zero effect on crime during that entire time period..... because this stuff doesn't do shit about crime, it just curtails our freedoms. That's all.



Fuck gun control.

DIY Guns: The New Improved FGC-9

3D printed firearms have come a long way since their inception. This is clearly shown today in what "Ivan the troll" dubs the "FGC-9" (F**k Gun Control 9). The 3d printed The gun is based on Derwood's AP9 "Shuty", but redesigned with one goal in mind: making a firearm with zero regulated parts.

www.thefirearmblog.com

What did you think about that guy demonstrating the 3D gun on that moveable apparatus video during the part he was using a string? lol I would have been cussing him up and down had he made that second shot using that string after seeing it move like that to the right...the direction where his buddy was standing! lol Worth watching for this alone! I'd rate that act a 9! You'll have to guess what type of contest, I'm feeling more polite today

 

[White 6]

Who is afraid of guns, Booty? I was a trained weapons instructor on leterally every small arm the military had through the 90s, including grenade launchers and shoulder fired rockets, and of course crew served weapons systems, including 4 deuce mortar and M-60A3 main battle tank and rated expert in all the above. To this day, I keep enough weapons in various part of our home loaded and extra ammo with the goal of being able stand off a platoon size element for hours if it ever became necessary. Ordered a PSA 16" CHF standard 1:7 twist mid-length 5.56 NATO Premium AR-15 Upper from Palmetto State Armory, just yesterday morning to complete a build. You got the wrong guy. I do not fear weapons or explosives (yes, trained and qualified in that also back in the day), and it is with that training and experience, I can say without a doubt, training, qualification, and self discipline are or key to weapons safety and many in the civilian population particulary shouldn't even be trusted with potato gun, much less a fire arm on the streets. Don't expect people like me to get all tore up about your right to cowboy around town with weapons hanging all over your body, like an SF wannabe to show off you toys. Owning cool firepower, also does not change the way many behave. It takes more than plunking down the price of admission to own and that firepower should fall under sensible regulation.

you're afraid of something. Tell us what scares you then if not the gun, the gun is inanimate object.

Idiots scare me, as they are unpredictable. Same thing that keeps the pucker factor up on anybody that has been in charge of as many ranges and live qualifications as I. They can ruin your whole damn day, I swear.

At the prison the range the "instructor" said he would shoot anyone that pointed a gun at him. He also said hollow points were banned because they over penetrate.

You worked at a prison? He was not much of an instructor if he said hollow point were noted for over penetration. The whole point of using hollow points is so the projectile will mushroom on impact, slowing down, staying in the target, imparting all it's energy inside it without going all the way through endangering whoever or whatever is on the other side. For a carry round, I am pretty well set on Federal HST or LE for personal defense carry round in 124 grain and only use ball type ammo for range practice in 124 grain as ball type ammo is a lot less expensive compared to personal defense round, yet with same grain load have the same ballistics and kick to practice realigning on target for subsequent shots.

I carry a 357 sig, but I do have a 9mm spare, and I use Georgia Arms 124 gr JHPs for carry ammo in the 9. Basically just Gold Dots.

The older I get, the less I worry about this stuff, though..... I have run into some old South African and Central and South American cops who have been in more shootouts than most entire big city police departments here in the states, and very few of those gunfighters ever used anything but ball ammo, because that's all they had.

Sensible choice, sensible load. You should carry what you are comfortable with and train with as you already know. I don't think I've seen Georgia Arms ammo here in Jackson, but heck, there's a lot of ammo I used to see here that I don't see anymore.
I would definitely use available rather than throw rocks. I bought a pack of 115 grain Blazer fmj last week because he had it on the shelf but no 124 grain in anything but one single 20 rnd pack of some off brand hollow points at godawful price on a little cart back behind counter and absolutely nothing on the shelves on my side of the counter. Last fall I figure this would be over soon. Guess I was wrong.

I keep the 9mm as a spare in case I have a problem with the primary carry gun, and as a lower cost alternative ammo for doing courses. The only difference between the 2 is the caliber.

A 500 round training course is a lot cheaper with a 9mm than with a 357 sig, or at least it used to be.

You may be better than me and wouldn't surprise me a bit, but I still recommend doing training with same you intend to shoot primary.

Nowadays, that's fine...... go on gunbroker and compare bulk 9mm vs 357 sig. Used to be 357 sig was damn near triple the price, but not anymore.

I always trained with my primary, but there is still plenty of good training value in using the 9mm, just like there is in dry fire practice, or in using 22lr conversions, or even realistic Airsoft guns.
I'm more into software training these days anyway. I don't need a 1.5 second draw and engage if I can see the potential problem coming 3 minutes out, and just leave, or go over and neutralize it first.

Well, I can agree on the value of training with different weapons, though I rarely do it. Dry fire practice good if somebody else watching to catch what you are doing or if someone really does want to be Quick Draw Mcgraw. I haven't shot a 22 pistol pistol since the 80s when my brother sold his High Standard Double Nine. It was fun, but I would run like hell before I shot somebody with a 22, as it might really piss them off and they take it away and beat the sh#t out of me with it.

 

[freyasman]

Who is afraid of guns, Booty? I was a trained weapons instructor on leterally every small arm the military had through the 90s, including grenade launchers and shoulder fired rockets, and of course crew served weapons systems, including 4 deuce mortar and M-60A3 main battle tank and rated expert in all the above. To this day, I keep enough weapons in various part of our home loaded and extra ammo with the goal of being able stand off a platoon size element for hours if it ever became necessary. Ordered a PSA 16" CHF standard 1:7 twist mid-length 5.56 NATO Premium AR-15 Upper from Palmetto State Armory, just yesterday morning to complete a build. You got the wrong guy. I do not fear weapons or explosives (yes, trained and qualified in that also back in the day), and it is with that training and experience, I can say without a doubt, training, qualification, and self discipline are or key to weapons safety and many in the civilian population particulary shouldn't even be trusted with potato gun, much less a fire arm on the streets. Don't expect people like me to get all tore up about your right to cowboy around town with weapons hanging all over your body, like an SF wannabe to show off you toys. Owning cool firepower, also does not change the way many behave. It takes more than plunking down the price of admission to own and that firepower should fall under sensible regulation.

you're afraid of something. Tell us what scares you then if not the gun, the gun is inanimate object.

Idiots scare me, as they are unpredictable. Same thing that keeps the pucker factor up on anybody that has been in charge of as many ranges and live qualifications as I. They can ruin your whole damn day, I swear.

At the prison the range the "instructor" said he would shoot anyone that pointed a gun at him. He also said hollow points were banned because they over penetrate.

You worked at a prison? He was not much of an instructor if he said hollow point were noted for over penetration. The whole point of using hollow points is so the projectile will mushroom on impact, slowing down, staying in the target, imparting all it's energy inside it without going all the way through endangering whoever or whatever is on the other side. For a carry round, I am pretty well set on Federal HST or LE for personal defense carry round in 124 grain and only use ball type ammo for range practice in 124 grain as ball type ammo is a lot less expensive compared to personal defense round, yet with same grain load have the same ballistics and kick to practice realigning on target for subsequent shots.

I carry a 357 sig, but I do have a 9mm spare, and I use Georgia Arms 124 gr JHPs for carry ammo in the 9. Basically just Gold Dots.

The older I get, the less I worry about this stuff, though..... I have run into some old South African and Central and South American cops who have been in more shootouts than most entire big city police departments here in the states, and very few of those gunfighters ever used anything but ball ammo, because that's all they had.

Sensible choice, sensible load. You should carry what you are comfortable with and train with as you already know. I don't think I've seen Georgia Arms ammo here in Jackson, but heck, there's a lot of ammo I used to see here that I don't see anymore.
I would definitely use available rather than throw rocks. I bought a pack of 115 grain Blazer fmj last week because he had it on the shelf but no 124 grain in anything but one single 20 rnd pack of some off brand hollow points at godawful price on a little cart back behind counter and absolutely nothing on the shelves on my side of the counter. Last fall I figure this would be over soon. Guess I was wrong.

I keep the 9mm as a spare in case I have a problem with the primary carry gun, and as a lower cost alternative ammo for doing courses. The only difference between the 2 is the caliber.

A 500 round training course is a lot cheaper with a 9mm than with a 357 sig, or at least it used to be.

You may be better than me and wouldn't surprise me a bit, but I still recommend doing training with same you intend to shoot primary.

Nowadays, that's fine...... go on gunbroker and compare bulk 9mm vs 357 sig. Used to be 357 sig was damn near triple the price, but not anymore.

I always trained with my primary, but there is still plenty of good training value in using the 9mm, just like there is in dry fire practice, or in using 22lr conversions, or even realistic Airsoft guns.
I'm more into software training these days anyway. I don't need a 1.5 second draw and engage if I can see the potential problem coming 3 minutes out, and just leave, or go over and neutralize it first.

Well, I can agree on the value of training with different weapons, though I rarely do it. Dry fire practice good if somebody else watching to catch what you are doing or if someone really does want to be Quick Draw Mcgraw. I haven't shot a 22 pistol pistol since the 80s when my brother sold his High Standard Double Nine. It was fun, but I would run like hell before I shot somebody with a 22, as it might really piss them off and they take it away and beat the sh#t out of me with it.

You'd be surprised.

Guns are just tools, but different tasks call for different tools sometimes.

The .22 LR Pistol and You

blog about getting out of bad situations

straightforwardinacrookedworld.blogspot.com

 

[2aguy]

but I have no problem with intelligent regulation.

like?

I would have thorough background checks on all weapon transfer by sale or otherwise, across the board except within direct family.
There would be no rifles or shotguns on the streets of cities or town publicly carried other than for purchase or or maintenance and no magazine in the weapon even then. Only allowing in the home for home defense or on personal property and to and from ranges outside the city on private land, target practice on private land with owner permission or for hunting, but not on the city streets on some jackoff's shoulder locked and loaded.
I would favor carry permit after training and testing to same extent as I already have and is done in the at least 23 other states that recognize my permit, only I think all American citizens should have the same right and opportunity under the same restrictions to have access to the same training and process and regulations now in place here with out the interference of elected local politician. If somebody wants a gun free city, let them go out and buy a bunch land and build it on their own private property. Won't bother me, but I would never move there. One thing for sure, if you cannot guarantee 100% from criminals and morons with guns, you got no business banning guns and there is no way in hell you can guarantee that.
I would limit the number of weapons a person other than a licensed registered gun dealer can build and sell without becoming registered gun dealer and their builds would be required to be uniquely identifiable, instead of it being a closet side closet side hustle for people like me, who know how, to do it as unregulated business in trafficking arms. Not that I have ever built one for anybody else.
I am no fan of open carry side arms, from a tactical stand point as I am against intimidating the straights more than necessary, but I can live with it, after all, I have got mine, so not intimidated. I just prefer concealed carry personally.
Did that give you enough to bitch about?

Background checks do not stop criminals...they use straw buyers.......background checks are simply the Trojan horse for gun registration.

Hawaii....just won at the 9th circuit...they ban concealed carry and now they can ban open carry......any mandatory training for owning or carrying a gun will be used as a way to ban guns....that is the truth.

 

[2aguy]

In USA there are about 20,000 gun suicides and 10,000 gun homicides each year.

So.....guns are not the issue....mental health is the issue. For example.....Japan has extreme gun control and a way higher suicide rate than the U.S....guns are not the issue.....

Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide

There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world.

According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.


Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).


Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).
Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)
Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.
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[2aguy]

In USA there are about 20,000 gun suicides and 10,000 gun homicides each year.

And in America, law abiding citizens use their guns 1.1 million times a year to stop rapes, robberies and murders...according to our CDC..........and if you don't like them, the Department of Justice research put that number at 1.5 million times a year....

Lives saved from rape, robbery and murder.....

10,235 gun murders in 2019...... 70-80% of the victims are criminals engaged in criminal activity and lifestyle....

Versus...

1.1 million times a year normal people use guns to save lives...

Can you tell which number is bigger?

 

[2aguy]

So some liberal extremist, Trump-Hating Whack-a-doodle with a Muslim-sounding name goes on a shooting spree, and Biden and the Democrats rush to use this as an excuse to strip LAW-ABIDING citizens of their 2nd Amendment Rights.

During the foreign-funded Democrat-supported domestic-terrorist violence of Antifa looting, pillaging, destroying, arsonist, raping, assaulting, and murdering Antifa terrorist acts in Democrat-run communities all over the country - that caused BILLIONS of dollars in damage and destroyed many Americans businesses / dreams...

Democrats arrested a couple for holding their legally-owned, Constitutionally protected personal weapons on their own property in front of their own house - in a 'Stand-Your Ground' state, to protect themselves and ther home from violent protestors who threatened their lives and threatened to burn down their House.

The trespassing terrorists were arrested for trespassing....and have already been released. The case by a liberal extremist AG against the couple is still on-going, has not been dropped, despite the fact that they did not do anything illegal and a bipartisan effort to get the charges dropped is on-going.

Biden and the Democrats, who are just screwing the majority of Americans as hard as they can as fast as they can have turned DC into the Iraqi 'Green Zone' defended by National Guard Troops because they are so deathly afraid that the Americans they are screwing and whose country they are turning into a 3rd-world socialist tyrannical country are going to rise up against them for what they are doing.

To ensure a successful revolt against their tyrannical transformation f this nation into a single-party Socialist state they HAVE to take the guns out of the hands of the people.

'Hell yes, we are coming after your AR-15s!'
- A bill has already been submitted by proven CCP Espionage Facilitator Diane Feinstein

Hell YES, we are coming for your guns. There was never any doubt.

Biden calls on Senate to pass gun control measures 'immediately' after Boulder shooting

President Biden on Tuesday implored the Senate to pass new gun control measures in the wake of a mass shooting that left 10 dead in Boulder, Colorado, this week.

www.foxnews.com

LIAR.
Just assault weapons.
Weapons designed to do nothing but kill lots of people in 5 minutes.
You're part of the problem, spreading misinformation.
POS

And you have no idea what you are talking about.........AR-15s are not "Assault" weapons.......and there is only one mass public shooting where a rifle had the advantage over a shotgun or pistols.....at the range of mass public shootings, shotguns and pistols are just as capable of killing lots of people...

It isn't the gun that is the determining factor....these are......

1) Target location.....gun free zones allow for more helpless people to be murdered.

2) How long it takes before good guys with guns engage the attacker with their own guns.....the faster you shoot back at the attacker, the more lives are saved.

That is the truth, the facts and the reality.

 

[2aguy]

Rest in Peace -- 572,000 people in USA killed by guns in 1999-2016:

That is a lie......you have to put in suicides to get anywhere close to that...

2019 there were 10,235 gun murders.......

If we take that number and multiply it by the 17 years.....you twit.....you get 173,995.....and of the 10,235 gun murders...do you understand that 70-80% the victims are career criminals.....murdered by other criminals...and of the other 20-30%, the majority of those victims are friends and family of those very same criminals....

Do you understand that?

Also....from 1939-1945 German socialist murdered 12 million unarmed people....men, women and children.......there guns were taken from them starting in the 1930s ...................

Government with guns is deadlier than all of our criminals with guns combined since 1939......

You don't understand the issue.....you see a meme and you post it....try doing some actual research.

 

[2aguy]

Rest in Peace -- 572,000 people in USA killed by guns in 1999-2016:

This is how dumb you and your post are.....

Over the last 27 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019...guess what happened...

https://crimeresearch.org/2020/10/n...n-issuing-permits-because-of-the-coronavirus/


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.


From the CDC.....

Accidental Gun deaths...

1999.....824
2000.....776
2001.....802
2002.....762
2003.....730
2004.....649
2005.....789
2006.....642
2007.....613
2008.....592
2009.....554
2010.....606
2011.....591
2012.....548
2013.....505
2014.....461
2015.....489
2016.....495
2017.....486
2018.....458
2019......486

Non-fatal gun injuries.....

2001.....17,696

2018.....18,921

 

[2aguy]

Human Life is Precious.

And that is why we have guns to protect innocent lives from violent criminals...criminals who the democrat party prosecutors, judges and politicians release over and over again, no matter how many times they are arrested for actual gun crimes......

If you want to save lives, tell the democrat party to stop releasing known, repeat gun offenders...the ones doing all of the actual shooting and murdering.........

 

[2aguy]

All suicides are preventable

Without guns, suicide rate would be much lower.

Wrong....the Japanese have extreme gun control....they kill themselves in higher numbers than Americans do using Trains, buildings and house hold cleaning products...

Guns have no effect on the suicide rate...

Fact Check, Gun Control and Suicide

There is no relation between suicide rate and gun ownership rates around the world.

According to the 2016 World Health Statistics report, (2) suicide rates in the four countries cited as having restrictive gun control laws have suicide rates that are comparable to that in the U. S.: Australia, 11.6, Canada, 11.4, France, 15.8, UK, 7.0, and USA 13.7 suicides/100,000. By comparison, Japan has among the highest suicide rates in the world, 23.1/100,000, but gun ownership is extremely rare, 0.6 guns/100 people.
Suicide is a mental health issue. If guns are not available other means are used. Poisoning, in fact, is the most common method of suicide for U. S. females according to the Washington Post (34 % of suicides), and suffocation the second most common method for males (27%).
Secondly, gun ownership rates in France and Canada are not low, as is implied in the Post article. The rate of gun ownership in the U. S. is indeed high at 88.8 guns/100 residents, but gun ownership rates are also among the world’s highest in the other countries cited. Gun ownership rates in these countries are are as follows: Australia, 15, Canada, 30.8, France, 31.2, and UK 6.2 per 100 residents. (3,4) Gun ownership rates in Saudia Arabia are comparable to that in Canada and France, with 37.8 guns per 100 Saudi residents, yet the lowest suicide rate in the world is in Saudia Arabia (0.3 suicides per 100,000).
Third, recent statistics in the state of Florida show that nearly one third of the guns used in suicides are obtained illegally, putting these firearm deaths beyond control through gun laws.(5)
Fourth, the primary factors affecting suicide rates are personal stresses, cultural, economic, religious factors and demographics. According to the WHO statistics, the highest rates of suicide in the world are in the Republic of Korea, with 36.8 suicides per 100,000, but India, Japan, Russia, and Hungary all have rates above 20 per 100,000; roughly twice as high as the U.S. and the four countries that are the basis for the Post’s calculation that gun control would reduce U.S. suicide rates by 20 to 38 percent. Lebanon, Oman, and Iraq all have suicide rates below 1.1 per 100,000 people--less than 1/10 the suicide rate in the U. S., and Afghanistan, Algeria, Jamaica, Haiti, and Egypt have low suicide rates that are below 4 per 100,000 in contrast to 13.7 suicides/100,000 in the U. S.
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