Biden calls Republicans "semi" fascist

[jasonnfree]

Jacob Riss gave America a taste of the great free market with few to no controls. Link Below. Charles Dickens wrote about dire poverty in England also. It was also the usual great free market that enriched a few greatly and to hell with the average worker. We're headed in that direction with. Republican politicians have no plans what so ever of having a middle class in America any more. The far right need to turn off the likes of Fox news and Hannity and do some real study. Libraries are mostly free, lot's of free stuff on the internet.

Immigrant Poverty by Jacob A. Riis

Immigrant Poverty by Jacob A. Riis

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[Pete7469]

We should simply house the homeless and provide them with what they need to get back on their feet. That is more cost-effective than abandoning them out in the street. Housing and education/vocational job training should be human rights. We can add a job guarantee to that as well in the public sector.

Hey stupid....

There are billions of dollars being wasted on such endeavors. These people don't want normal lives. Many of them are batshit crazy and can't have normal lives. They need to be put in an asylum, but after the federal government took over the asylums, they hired low paid staff that abused patients and allowed sociopaths to experiment on them.

Some can probably be rehabilitated by not by the government. Government will waste the money and get results worse than the problem. Happens every time.

 

[Red Front]

Hey stupid....

There are billions of dollars being wasted on such endeavors. These people don't want normal lives. Many of them are batshit crazy and can't have normal lives. They need to be put in an asylum, but after the federal government took over the asylums, they hired low paid staff that abused patients and allowed sociopaths to experiment on them.

Some can probably be rehabilitated by not by the government. Government will waste the money and get results worse than the problem. Happens every time.

The government isn't inherently evil or ineffective, such notions are nothing more than cheap, self-serving capitalist rhetoric. Your claim that publicly-run psyche-wards are all corrupt and abusing their patients is a gross exaggeration and simply false. Some of the very best mental health institutions are run by our federal, state and local governments. The VA offers the very best mental healthcare in the world, and I know that because I have a family member with PTSD , who's a war veteran and has been admitted to the VA on more than one occasion. He loves the care that he received at the VA and continues to have it now. Privately run, for profit psyche wards are not better:

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Private charity and churches are not adequately meeting the needs of the homeless and poor, so our government can and should resolve the problem. What is government? It's a social apparatus/tool/instrument organized by the people to manage their LARGE-SCALE socioeconomic, civil affairs and projects. That's "government", it's not inherently good, nor is it inherently wicked, it's WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO BE. It's that simple. There are a lot of bible believing Christians here on this forum and if you're one of them, you need to come to terms with what your deity in the bible says about government. According to the Christian deity, government is a divinely created institution:

Tit 3:1 Put them in mind to be in subjection to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready unto every good work,

Pe 2:13 Be subject to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether to the king, as supreme;
1Pe 2:14 or unto governors, as sent by him for vengeance on evil-doers and for praise to them that do well.
1Pe 2:15 For so is the will of God, that by well-doing ye should put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
1Pe 2:16 as free, and not using your freedom for a cloak of wickedness, but as bondservants of God.
1Pe 2:17 Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.
1Pe 2:18 Slaves, be in subjection to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same:
Rom 13:4 for he is a minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but also for conscience' sake.
Rom 13:6 For this cause ye pay tribute also; for they are ministers of God's service, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.

Jesus said:

Mat 22:21 ...Render therefore unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Government authorities are established by divine will/fiat/providence and Christians should submit to such authorities. Heck if that wasn't enough, the bible even says that Christian slaves should serve their masters as they serve The Lord. The bible doesn't teach slaves to rebel against their masters, but rather to faithfully serve them.

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink;
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

According to the bible, Jesus will cast people into hell for not opening the doors of their homes to the homeless and letting them in. Are homeless shelters the answer to resolving the homeless crisis in America? No. Have you ever been to a homeless shelter? I have, I now work with the homeless at a non-profit, that teaches them web development, android app development, and other computer skills. We visit homeless shelters where 40, even 100 people are being packed like sardines into a small room with bunk beds. Can you imagine being in there, with 50 other homeless people coughing on you with TB? You're getting eaten alive by bedbugs, the guy on the bed next to yours is doing drugs or hearing his little radio all night, till 4 am, not allowing you to sleep. How are you going to perform at your new job tomorrow if you're not sleeping? How can you get a good night's sleep when people around you are getting robbed and stabbed, even raped? I know how it is, I was homeless for 6 years, between 1998 and 2004 here in NYC.

I'm a veteran so the VA helped me get back on my feet through a program called TORCH-VA. Without the VA I would probably still be homeless urinating and defecating on the sidewalk in front of your grocery store or brownstone home. Panhandling and harassing your customers as they walk into your store. What effect does that have on the local economy? How does that affect you and your family? Homelessness is extremely expensive. I wasn't going to stay in a homeless shelter, no way. Been there, done that and I left. I was sleeping rough outside. Shelters are definitely not the solution to homelessness, if anything they are vectors of disease and a public health hazard. If your business or home is near a homeless shelter, what do you think that does to your business or the value of your home? Shelters are not the solution. Permanent housing is the solution.

I agree with you on what you said about the need to commit a % of the homeless population to mental health hospitals. Yes, about a quarter of them may not be able to function or rehabilitate themselves as I did. My life now is completely restored and different than it was 18 years ago. I learned a valuable skill, I educated myself and started a family. All of that is thanks to the VA lifting me up from that hell that I was in, mentally, and physically. etc.

The way to get rid of homelessness in America is simply to provide basic, clean, modern housing to the homeless and other needed services, like healthcare, mental-health and drug counseling, vocational job training, and employment opportunities. That's how you eliminate homelessness, not by abandoning people on the sidewalk. When you ignore the homeless problem or simply force the homeless out of your city, it simply makes the problem worse. The US government is sending billions of dollars to Ukraine to fight their proxy war with Russia when that money should be used to eliminate homelessness in America.

Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thy healing shall spring forth speedily; and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of Jehovah shall be thy rearward.
Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and Jehovah will answer; thou shalt cry, and he will say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking wickedly;

 

[Pete7469]

The government isn't inherently evil or ineffective, such notions are nothing more than cheap, self-serving capitalist rhetoric. Your claim that publicly-run psyche-wards are all corrupt and abusing their patients is a gross exaggeration and simply false. Some of the very best mental health institutions are run by our federal, state and local governments. The VA offers the very best mental healthcare in the world, and I know that because I have a family member with PTSD , who's a war veteran and has been admitted to the VA on more than one occasion. He loves the care that he received at the VA and continues to have it now. Privately run, for profit psyche wards are not better:

​

Private charity and churches are not adequately meeting the needs of the homeless and poor, so our government can and should resolve the problem. What is government? It's a social apparatus/tool/instrument organized by the people to manage their LARGE-SCALE socioeconomic, civil affairs and projects. That's "government", it's not inherently good, nor is it inherently wicked, it's WHATEVER WE WANT IT TO BE. It's that simple. There are a lot of bible believing Christians here on this forum and if you're one of them, you need to come to terms with what your deity in the bible says about government. According to the Christian deity, government is a divinely created institution:

Tit 3:1 Put them in mind to be in subjection to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready unto every good work,

Pe 2:13 Be subject to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether to the king, as supreme;
1Pe 2:14 or unto governors, as sent by him for vengeance on evil-doers and for praise to them that do well.
1Pe 2:15 For so is the will of God, that by well-doing ye should put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:
1Pe 2:16 as free, and not using your freedom for a cloak of wickedness, but as bondservants of God.
1Pe 2:17 Honor all men. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the king.
1Pe 2:18 Slaves, be in subjection to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

Rom 13:1 Let every soul be in subjection to the higher powers: for there is no power but of God; and the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Therefore he that resisteth the power, withstandeth the ordinance of God: and they that withstand shall receive to themselves judgment.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to the good work, but to the evil. And wouldest thou have no fear of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise from the same:
Rom 13:4 for he is a minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is a minister of God, an avenger for wrath to him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be in subjection, not only because of the wrath, but also for conscience' sake.
Rom 13:6 For this cause ye pay tribute also; for they are ministers of God's service, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honor to whom honor.

Jesus said:

Mat 22:21 ...Render therefore unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Government authorities are established by divine will/fiat/providence and Christians should submit to such authorities. Heck if that wasn't enough, the bible even says that Christian slaves should serve their masters as they serve The Lord. The bible doesn't teach slaves to rebel against their masters, but rather to faithfully serve them.

Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into the eternal fire which is prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 for I was hungry, and ye did not give me to eat; I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink;
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in; naked, and ye clothed me not; sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

According to the bible, Jesus will cast people into hell for not opening the doors of their homes to the homeless and letting them in. Are homeless shelters the answer to resolving the homeless crisis in America? No. Have you ever been to a homeless shelter? I have, I now work with the homeless at a non-profit, that teaches them web development, android app development, and other computer skills. We visit homeless shelters where 40, even 100 people are being packed like sardines into a small room with bunk beds. Can you imagine being in there, with 50 other homeless people coughing on you with TB? You're getting eaten alive by bedbugs, the guy on the bed next to yours is doing drugs or hearing his little radio all night, till 4 am, not allowing you to sleep. How are you going to perform at your new job tomorrow if you're not sleeping? How can you get a good night's sleep when people around you are getting robbed and stabbed, even raped? I know how it is, I was homeless for 6 years, between 1998 and 2004 here in NYC.

I'm a veteran so the VA helped me get back on my feet through a program called TORCH-VA. Without the VA I would probably still be homeless urinating and defecating on the sidewalk in front of your grocery store or brownstone home. Panhandling and harassing your customers as they walk into your store. What effect does that have on the local economy? How does that affect you and your family? Homelessness is extremely expensive. I wasn't going to stay in a homeless shelter, no way. Been there, done that and I left. I was sleeping rough outside. Shelters are definitely not the solution to homelessness, if anything they are vectors of disease and a public health hazard. If your business or home is near a homeless shelter, what do you think that does to your business or the value of your home? Shelters are not the solution. Permanent housing is the solution.

I agree with you on what you said about the need to commit a % of the homeless population to mental health hospitals. Yes, about a quarter of them may not be able to function or rehabilitate themselves as I did. My life now is completely restored and different than it was 18 years ago. I learned a valuable skill, I educated myself and started a family. All of that is thanks to the VA lifting me up from that hell that I was in, mentally, and physically. etc.

The way to get rid of homelessness in America is simply to provide basic, clean, modern housing to the homeless and other needed services, like healthcare, mental-health and drug counseling, vocational job training, and employment opportunities. That's how you eliminate homelessness, not by abandoning people on the sidewalk. When you ignore the homeless problem or simply force the homeless out of your city, it simply makes the problem worse. The US government is sending billions of dollars to Ukraine to fight their proxy war with Russia when that money should be used to eliminate homelessness in America.

Isa 58:6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen: to loose the bonds of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
Isa 58:7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
Isa 58:8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thy healing shall spring forth speedily; and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of Jehovah shall be thy rearward.
Isa 58:9 Then shalt thou call, and Jehovah will answer; thou shalt cry, and he will say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking wickedly;

You're stupid.

If government did better than for profit industries that are staffed by people who have to provide results, then the Soviets would have liberated us in 1995 rather than collapsed.

That ain't what happened though, was it asswipe?

Even the chinks dropped all pretense off collectivism but maintained the authoritarianism.

 

[Red Front]

You're stupid.

If government did better than for profit industries that are staffed by people who have to provide results, then the Soviets would have liberated us in 1995 rather than collapsed.

That ain't what happened though, was it asswipe?

Even the chinks dropped all pretense off collectivism but maintained the authoritarianism.

What does any of that which you mentioned, have to do with homelessness in America? The Soviet Union is a completely different topic that has nothing to do with homelessness in our country. The Soviet Union collapsed when it abandoned socialism in order to pander to the US with the hopes of ending the cold war. It adopted markets in the 80s and that destroyed the Soviet economy. It was called "Perestroika" and it doesn't work, socialism does as is evident by the fact that when the USSR was strictly socialist, it was at the peak of its development and growth.

As far as China, its market economy is heavily regulated, managed, and centrally planned by the socialist state. According to Marx, socialism can indeed include capitalist markets within the consumer goods sector of the economy. China isn't violating Marxist socialism or adopting neo-liberal, laissez-faire capitalism, by adopting a market-oriented consumer goods sector in its economy. There is still collectivism in China, so your comment is absurd.

As I pointed out earlier, the government should just solve the homeless problem in America by housing the homeless, it's that simple. Abandoning people out on the street is more expensive than housing them.

 

[Pete7469]

What does any of that which you mentioned, have to do with homelessness in America? The Soviet Union is a completely different topic that has nothing to do with homelessness in our country. The Soviet Union collapsed when it abandoned socialism in order to pander to the US with the hopes of ending the cold war. It adopted markets in the 80s and that destroyed the Soviet economy. It was called "Perestroika" and it doesn't work, socialism does as is evident by the fact that when the USSR was strictly socialist, it was at the peak of its development and growth.

As far as China, its market economy is heavily regulated, managed, and centrally planned by the socialist state. According to Marx, socialism can indeed include capitalist markets within the consumer goods sector of the economy. China isn't violating Marxist socialism or adopting neo-liberal, laissez-faire capitalism, by adopting a market-oriented consumer goods sector in its economy. There is still collectivism in China, so your comment is absurd.

As I pointed out earlier, the government should just solve the homeless problem in America by housing the homeless, it's that simple. Abandoning people out on the street is more expensive than housing them.

I told you that you're stupid....

 

[Red Front]

I told you that you're stupid....

Whether I'm stupid or not is irrelevant to the issue. Private charities and churches are obviously unable r unwilling to eliminate homelessness because we still have about 700,000 Americans who are homeless, hence our government should resolve the problem by housing everyone. It's that simple.

 

[Ringo]

"Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand." (c)

 

[Pete7469]

Whether I'm stupid or not is irrelevant to the issue. Private charities and churches are obviously unable r unwilling to eliminate homelessness because we still have about 700,000 Americans who are homeless, hence our government should resolve the problem by housing everyone. It's that simple.

No...

The fact that you're stupid is the foundation of the issue. Only someone stupid would believe communism failed because of the CIA, or because the wrong people overthrew governments and wiped out a hundred million people who didn't want to give all their shit to some commissar assholes.

Communism fails because anyone who makes an effort to produce anything expects to proper from the endeavor and increase their standard of living. When some outside violent force is introduced that reduces the value of what an individual produces, that individual becomes less productive or attempts to hide the rewards of their efforts.

Helping the homeless isn't a bad idea, or something other than noble, but sometimes the efforts are for nothing. It requires people who actually give a shit and don't concern themselves with wages or rewards. These used to be religious people like catholic charities, but government regulated or took over these efforts and destroyed the effectiveness of their efforts. This was deliberate and the results are more homeless than any other country on earth, but then again in most countries they would starve to death or be murdered in a matter of weeks. Here they have easy access to food, dope, shelter and clothing. No other country is as hospitable to such lifestyle.

I don't know how old you are or care. I actually would have agreed with you and I parroted the same inane gibberish you do 30 years ago, but I grew up, got a job and became self reliant.

Try it sometime.



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[konradv]

Biden is once again campaigning with lies and hate mongering and fear mongering
He is calling the Republicans "semi" fascist and a threat to our "democracy"
Fascists do things like using the FBI as their political weapon.
Fascists do things like using hate and fear as their campaign tools.
Fascists do things like using race, religion and region to divide people
Fascists do things like relentlessly lying and using propaganda and censorship.
Fascists do things like using violence as a campaign tool like the Democrats do.
Biden is wrong once again and he is lying once again.
It's the Dems who are the true fascists.

Biden slams Republican platform as ‘semi-fascism’ at campaign rally

In his first campaign-style event, President Biden on Thursday made the argument to vote for Democrats by slamming the Republican platform as “semi-fascism.”

www.washingtontimes.com

MSN

www.msn.com

Biden gets fiery in speech, accuses GOP of turning to 'semi-fascism'

President Biden accused Republicans of turning toward 'semi-fascism' during a speech Thursday evening. The Washington Post's Matt Viser joins Morning Joe to discuss.

news.yahoo.com

I heard they were highly insulted and claimed to never do things by half measures!

 

[Red Front]

No...

The fact that you're stupid is the foundation of the issue. Only someone stupid would believe communism failed because of the CIA, or because the wrong people overthrew governments and wiped out a hundred million people who didn't want to give all their shit to some commissar assholes.

Communism fails because anyone who makes an effort to produce anything expects to proper from the endeavor and increase their standard of living. When some outside violent force is introduced that reduces the value of what an individual produces, that individual becomes less productive or attempts to hide the rewards of their efforts.

Helping the homeless isn't a bad idea, or something other than noble, but sometimes the efforts are for nothing. It requires people who actually give a shit and don't concern themselves with wages or rewards. These used to be religious people like catholic charities, but government regulated or took over these efforts and destroyed the effectiveness of their efforts. This was deliberate and the results are more homeless than any other country on earth, but then again in most countries they would starve to death or be murdered in a matter of weeks. Here they have easy access to food, dope, shelter and clothing. No other country is as hospitable to such lifestyle.

I don't know how old you are or care. I actually would have agreed with you and I parroted the same inane gibberish you do 30 years ago, but I grew up, got a job and became self reliant.

Try it sometime.



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You make a lot of false assumptions. It's quite easy to eliminate homelessness. It involves housing the homeless and providing them with the resources they need to get back on their feet. When we abandon people out on the street, it results in much more expensive and destructive outcomes than if we simply house the homeless and invest in their recovery.

 

[Ringo]

You make a lot of false assumptions. It's quite easy to eliminate homelessness. It involves housing the homeless and providing them with the resources they need to get back on their feet.

Capitalism need them. Same as unemployed

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Communism is the future, it's coming to a theater near you.

I don’t like goin to the theatre. Can a get it on cable?

 

[Red Front]

I don’t like goin to the theatre. Can a get it on cable?

Yes and Netflix, Hulu.

 

[Pete7469]

You make a lot of false assumptions. It's quite easy to eliminate homelessness. It involves housing the homeless and providing them with the resources they need to get back on their feet. When we abandon people out on the street, it results in much more expensive and destructive outcomes than if we simply house the homeless and invest in their recovery.

Again....

You fucking imbecile....

How do you house people who refuse to enter the facility if they can not continue to do drugs and shit that's harmful to themselves? With force? Then that's a prison.

If these people are so far gone that their family members will do nothing for them, what makes you believe anyone else, no matter how true to the cause their intentions are, will tolerate incorrigible sociopaths?

For those who could be "rehabilitated", why are they not using the resources available now? Many cities are dumping unbelievable millions of dollars into housing people that end up destroying the housing.

I get it that some people hit rock bottom, get addicted, keep getting fucked over or fuck themselves over but at some point... 100 strikes and you're out.

Enough of your utopian bullshit. Even IF it was possible to eliminate homelessness it would require a whole new sort of minimum security prison complexes and mental health professionals that would bankrupt the government more so than it is.

Unless we eliminated the amount we spent on the welfare parasites who get all sorts of free shit now, but still drive nice cars, have cell phones, internet, designer clothes, paid for housing, food, medical care, schools and are fatter than our fucking cattle we might be able to help the truly "impoverished" people in the US.

Yet you have no fuckin clue what actual poverty is. Not even the slightest concept. Our "homeless" have drugs, places to camp, they're fuckin fat too, and can go to shelters to clean up on occasion and get charity. Plus all the people who give them the cash at intersections for more dope. Don't even talk to me about poverty, because you have never seen the shit I have.


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[SassyIrishLass]

A fascist regime that takes control of the production and distribution of goods and services and uses the the media as a propaganda tool and federal law enforcement to entrap and arrest political dissidents, calls the GOP "semi" fascist. It would be funny if it wasn't an example of how tragically we lost our connection the values of freedom that once made this Country great.

Transferring debt, not wiping it out, with a stroke of a pen.

That alone made me double down

 

[BWK]

Biden is spot on.

 

[FA_Q2]

Genuine communism occurs when the individual consumer has complete control over the means of production:

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That is decades, maybe even a century away. Atomic precision manufacturing machines will allow consumers to produce everything they consume without anyone else's help or input. People will become fully independent and the state will become superfluous. Human relationships will be 100% voluntary. Land or being in one place long-term, will be seen as a burden because you carry with you all of the technology that produces everything hence no need to remain in one place unless you want to. You become a spacefarer with your family, or seafarer, or an earthfarer/landfarer, living and traveling on a ship or giant RV. Don't like the authoritarian nature of the leaders of your community? Leave, big deal. Now it's difficult to "leave" and relocate, but in the future, people will just leave and go somewhere else. They'll start a new colony or community somewhere else, maybe in an asteroid, near Pluto.

Socialism is now like a flower growing in a field of weeds that want to strangle it. Capitalism didn't replace chattel slavery and feudalism overnight, it took centuries. Socialism won't replace capitalism in one single swoop or revolution, it will take some time. We're now getting very close to the material conditions that are ripe for socialism. Advanced technology will eliminate wage labor and that's essentially the end of capitalism and the beginning of the socialist age.

Then 'genuine' capitalism occurs when people are truly free to decide what and when they want to do things. But the reality is that 'genuine' insert -ism here is utter bullshit. China is what happens when communism interacts with reality and it fails miserably every time.

What you envision simply is a fantasy. What EVERY ideology envisions is a fantasy. Reality is when those fantasies interact with reality and show you exactly what such a system really means when implemented. That you have the hubris to demand that it will be different if only people would do it your way is just you not wanting to accept cold hard facts.

 

[Red Front]

Then 'genuine' capitalism occurs when people are truly free to decide what and when they want to do things. But the reality is that 'genuine' insert -ism here is utter bullshit. China is what happens when communism interacts with reality and it fails miserably every time.

What you envision simply is a fantasy. What EVERY ideology envisions is a fantasy. Reality is when those fantasies interact with reality and show you exactly what such a system really means when implemented. That you have the hubris to demand that it will be different if only people would do it your way is just you not wanting to accept cold hard facts.

If people don't have certain resources to do things, they may never have the chance to improve their condition. There are plenty of countries that are dirt poor, full of misery and are under a capitalist-run economy (and they're not even sanctioned by the US as socialist nations are). That's the reality you are ignoring. China is just authoritarian capitalism, calling itself "communist". Marxist communism is stateless, so right off the bat, identifying China as a communist state is incorrect (i.e. oxymoronic). They can call themselves a communist or socialist state, but they're not really that, due to the reality of their government policies and how they're running their economy. China is a capitalist, autocratic regime, that doesn't recognize food, housing, healthcare, education, and employment as human rights. The Chinese have less access to housing, healthcare and an education than we do here in America. America is more socialist than China, in the sense that if you're really poor in many American states, you will qualify for Medicaid. Good healthcare and as far as an education, community colleges are quite affordable especially with federal financial aid/FAFSA. So America is way better than China on these issues, and closer to socialism.

 

[FA_Q2]

If people don't have certain resources to do things, they may never have the chance to improve their condition. There are plenty of countries that are dirt poor, full of misery and are under a capitalist-run economy. That's the reality you are ignoring. China is just authoritarian capitalism, calling itself "communist". Marxist communism is stateless, so right off the bat, identifying China as a communist state is incorrect (i.e. oxymoronic). They can call themselves a communist or socialist state, but they're not really that, due to the reality of their government policies and how they're running their economy. China is a capitalist, autocratic regime, that doesn't recognize food, housing, healthcare, education, and employment as human rights. The Chinese have less access to housing, healthcare and an education than we do here in America. America is more socialist than China, in the sense that if you're really poor in many American states, you will qualify for Medicaid. Good healthcare and as far as an education, community colleges are quite affordable especially with federal financial aid/FAFSA. So America is way better than China on these issues, and closer to socialism.

So you define communism as something that is not communism and state it is good. Nice try but utterly useless. To state the US is more socialistic than China BECAUSE OUTCOMES ARE BETTER is begging the question.

Your entire premise in this post is a logical fallacy.