Biden Deserves Credit, Not Blame, for Afghanistan

You are an idiot......biden told everyone it would take weeks if not months for Afghanistan to collapse....and then he pulled the military and shutdown Bagram airbase............which collapsed the Afghanistan government and military, you doofus.......these people were put behind enemy lines over night.........with no way to safely get through taliban and isis check points...you dumb ass...
Bullshit. Pulling out of Bagram did not make the Afghan Army collapse.

When an Army knows it will be defeated in weeks or months...it has very little desire to fight.

And EVERYONE knew they were going to fold...
 
You are an idiot......biden told everyone it would take weeks if not months for Afghanistan to collapse....and then he pulled the military and shutdown Bagram airbase............which collapsed the Afghanistan government and military, you doofus.......these people were put behind enemy lines over night.........with no way to safely get through taliban and isis check points...you dumb ass...

Wow, so turning over one airbase caused the complete collapse of the Afghan Military.

How does that work, again?

The thing is, Biden didn't pull any military out until this week. He actually increased the presence to facilitate the evacuation.

The guy who pulled out troops was Trump. He reduced the American presence from 13,600 to 2500. He also released 5000 Taliban prisoners.
 
It really wasn't going to end any other way, was it?

let's get real here. The Afghan government was always going to fold like a cheap suit, and there would be a big panic for the war profiteering Americans and Afghan Quislings to get out.

It would have been nice if all the Americans had gotten out in May like Biden told them to, but they didn't.
It could have ended differently. Our military is quite capable of pulling off an orderly withdrawal.

In the end Joe Biden is responsible. It is possible he got some bad intelligence from the CIA or his generals. Perhaps one day we will find out if he was properly advised and just thought he was smarter than his advisors or if Joe Biden is taking orders from someone who may own him.
 
It could have ended differently. Our military is quite capable of pulling off an orderly withdrawal.
Really...

So where has this happened previously?

What do you base that claim on?
 
It could have ended differently. Our military is quite capable of pulling off an orderly withdrawal.

In the end Joe Biden is responsible. It is possible he got some bad intelligence from the CIA or his generals. Perhaps one day we will find out if he was properly advised and just thought he was smarter than his advisors or if Joe Biden is taking orders from someone who may own him.

Really? Can you name another time where we pulled off a withdrawal of tens of thousands of people with only 13 casualities?

Sure, we've pulled off smaller withdrawals such as Lebanon, Somalia, where government had completely collapsed. But they were smaller, and easily accessed by the sea.

That we got this many people out so quickly with so few fatalities is actually kind of commendable.
 
This from the Atlantic guy gets it:

America’s longest war has been by any measure a costly failure, and the errors in managing the conflict deserve scrutiny in the years to come. But Joe Biden doesn’t “own” the mayhem on the ground right now. What we’re seeing is the culmination of 20 years of bad decisions by U.S. political and military leaders. If anything, Americans should feel proud of what the U.S. government and military have accomplished in these past two weeks. President Biden deserves credit, not blame.

Unlike his three immediate predecessors in the Oval Office, all of whom also came to see the futility of the Afghan operation, Biden alone had the political courage to fully end America’s involvement. Although Donald Trump made a plan to end the war, he set a departure datethat fell after the end of his first term and created conditions that made the situation Biden inherited more precarious. And despite significant pressure and obstacles, Biden has overseen a military and government that have managed, since the announcement of America’s withdrawal, one of the most extraordinary logistical feats in their recent history. By the time the last American plane lifts off from Hamid Karzai International Airport on August 31, the total number of Americans and Afghan allies extricated from the country may exceed 120,000.

Thanks for the satire, I needed a laugh this morning.
 
Biden does deserve credit:

1st US troops killed in 18 months

Most US troops killed in 10 years.

Most Taliban, Al Qaeda, & ISIS terrorists released at 1 time...ever.

1st time the US govt delivered terrorists on the terrorist watch list to the US...on US military planes....as evacuees instead of prisoners

1st time a President caused allies to declare they would not support tge US in any more joint military actions while a specific President remains in office

1st President to ever take orders from terrorists

1st President to promise not to leave a country until ALL Americans are evacuated....thel leave Americans behind...

Wiped out 20 years of blood, sweat, & sacrifice in only several months, guaranteeing tge war is not over, just resetting us back to the beginning....

1st President since Obama to assist terrorists establish their own nation / safe haven...
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This from the Atlantic guy gets it:

America’s longest war has been by any measure a costly failure, and the errors in managing the conflict deserve scrutiny in the years to come. But Joe Biden doesn’t “own” the mayhem on the ground right now. What we’re seeing is the culmination of 20 years of bad decisions by U.S. political and military leaders. If anything, Americans should feel proud of what the U.S. government and military have accomplished in these past two weeks. President Biden deserves credit, not blame.

Unlike his three immediate predecessors in the Oval Office, all of whom also came to see the futility of the Afghan operation, Biden alone had the political courage to fully end America’s involvement. Although Donald Trump made a plan to end the war, he set a departure datethat fell after the end of his first term and created conditions that made the situation Biden inherited more precarious. And despite significant pressure and obstacles, Biden has overseen a military and government that have managed, since the announcement of America’s withdrawal, one of the most extraordinary logistical feats in their recent history. By the time the last American plane lifts off from Hamid Karzai International Airport on August 31, the total number of Americans and Afghan allies extricated from the country may exceed 120,000.

Absolutely!
 
They misjudged the Afghan Army. After that mistake, they did everything possible, to get Americans and Afghani green card holders out....and did a good job!
Agreed but how could our military, intelligence, and diplomatic Corp misjudged so badly? Someone needs to be held accountable. It’s time for heads to roll. Joe needs to start firing people.
 
Does Potatohead deserve "credit" for this?


They Openly Mock Us Now: Taliban Hangs “Traitor” by the Throat From US Helicopter in Kandahar Left Behind by Joe Biden (VIDEO)


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Biden says his Generals told him to leave all the equipment and release all the terrorists.

Biden says.

If Biden is telling the truth then the Genrals and Biden need to be fired. The Generals for getting it wrong and Biden for listening to them

If Biden is lying the the Generals and Biden needs to be fired. Biden for being wrong and the Generals for letting the sonofabitch do it.
 
Agreed but how could our military, intelligence, and diplomatic Corp misjudged so badly? Someone needs to be held accountable. It’s time for heads to roll. Joe needs to start firing people.
They've been getting it wrong since the beginning of the Afghan war. Everyone has.
 
Agreed but how could our military, intelligence, and diplomatic Corp misjudged so badly? Someone needs to be held accountable. It’s time for heads to roll. Joe needs to start firing people.
Now that we are out and the military mission is over, and the diplomatic mission to get the rest out has begun, it is time to find out, who the heck misjudged the Afghani folding, and most importantly why did they misjudge it?
 
Bullshit. Pulling out of Bagram did not make the Afghan Army collapse.

When an Army knows it will be defeated in weeks or months...it has very little desire to fight.

And EVERYONE knew they were going to fold...
Biden didn’t.



Or was he lying???
 
Now that we are out and the military mission is over, and the diplomatic mission to get the rest out has begun, it is time to find out, who the heck misjudged the Afghani folding, and most importantly why did they misjudge it?
It was done on purpose. That’s why it was such a success!
 
This from the Atlantic guy gets it:

America’s longest war has been by any measure a costly failure, and the errors in managing the conflict deserve scrutiny in the years to come. But Joe Biden doesn’t “own” the mayhem on the ground right now. What we’re seeing is the culmination of 20 years of bad decisions by U.S. political and military leaders. If anything, Americans should feel proud of what the U.S. government and military have accomplished in these past two weeks. President Biden deserves credit, not blame.

Unlike his three immediate predecessors in the Oval Office, all of whom also came to see the futility of the Afghan operation, Biden alone had the political courage to fully end America’s involvement. Although Donald Trump made a plan to end the war, he set a departure datethat fell after the end of his first term and created conditions that made the situation Biden inherited more precarious. And despite significant pressure and obstacles, Biden has overseen a military and government that have managed, since the announcement of America’s withdrawal, one of the most extraordinary logistical feats in their recent history. By the time the last American plane lifts off from Hamid Karzai International Airport on August 31, the total number of Americans and Afghan allies extricated from the country may exceed 120,000.

Talking Points, and More Democrat Idiocy. Joe Biden is an Idiot and now you are too.
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