Biden says “No Amendment to the Constitution is absolute”

[Leo123]

Militia and the People are collective and plural not Individual and singular. And, well regulated militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; Becuase of the Collective nature of the Organization.

The unorganized militia, as Individuals of the People do not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment for their Individual selves due to that fact and are subject to the police power of their State as a result.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Militia and People are individuals, not a governmental collective. They act in their own favor which is guided by Judeo Christian morals and values. There is no central government control needed. You missed the entire point. Why am I not surprised? Your brain has been Marxist washed. There is no such thing as an 'unorganized militia' you just made up that definition out of thin air as most Marxists do. Change the lexicon, right out of 'Rules For Radicals'.....You've been identified. BTW 'plural' is more than one INDIVIDUAL you brain dead lefty-zombie-mutant!!!

 

[danielpalos]

The People are the Militia. You are either well regulated and have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for your State or the Union; or, you are unorganized and subject to the police power of your State or the Union.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

 

[Rigby5]

No, it isn't you ignorant right wing Russian tool.

The People are the Militia.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The People are made up of individuals, Mr. Marxist. In America those individuals have been guided by Judeo Christian morals and values. Marxist and Marxist tools like you would take away the moral base of our American society and make human beings in control of the so-called 'collective.' When the 'collective' has no moral base it is easy to get them to do most anything. Including disarming themselves, murdering millions of Jews and lately, closing down a whole country and mandate the wearing of nose-diapers. You are so lost I fear you're already gone. Sad really.

Militia and the People are collective and plural not Individual and singular. And, well regulated militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; Becuase of the Collective nature of the Organization.

The unorganized militia, as Individuals of the People do not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment for their Individual selves due to that fact and are subject to the police power of their State as a result.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Totally wrong.
The organized militia do not normally exist.
They are created on the fly when needed, from the unorganized militia individuals.
So you can't have an organized militia of citizen soldiers unless the individual right of firearms is protected.

The police power of their state also is misunderstood because there were almost no permanent police at that time, and the police powers come from and are enforced by the armed individuals of the state.
Police powers refers to the face the limits of individuals comes from when there is a conflict between the rights of multiple individuals, and a compromise has to be settled between them. That is the only source of any legal restrictions on anyone.

 

[Rigby5]

The People are the Militia. You are either well regulated and have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for your State or the Union; or, you are unorganized and subject to the police power of your State or the Union.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

The phrase "well regulated" means well armed and practiced when it comes to gun rights, it does not mean restricted or controlled.

Nor does a federal or state need for an organized militia in any way diminish the individual right of armed self defense, as implied by the 4th and 5th amendments.

Being subject to police power means that no individual right is unbounded, but it is only bounded by and when the actions of one would infringe upon those of another. Police powers then are not an administrative hierarchy, but simply a compromise when inherent individual rights come on conflict.

 

[Leo123]

Militia and the People are collective and plural not Individual and singular. And, well regulated militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; Becuase of the Collective nature of the Organization.

The unorganized militia, as Individuals of the People do not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment for their Individual selves due to that fact and are subject to the police power of their State as a result.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Militia and People are individuals, not a governmental collective. They act in their own favor which is guided by Judeo Christian morals and values. There is no central government control needed. You missed the entire point. Why am I not surprised? Your brain has been Marxist washed. There is no such thing as an 'unorganized militia' you just made up that definition out of thin air as most Marxists do. Change the lexicon, right out of 'Rules For Radicals'.....You've been identified.

The People are the Militia. You are either well regulated and have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for your State or the Union; or, you are unorganized and subject to the police power of your State or the Union.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Oh I see, 'well regulated' to you means controlled by central government or a ruling authority. That is exactly the opposite of what the 2nd was created for. But then, you read with Marxist eyes and interpret with a Marxist brain.

 

[danielpalos]

No, it isn't you ignorant right wing Russian tool.

The People are the Militia.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The People are made up of individuals, Mr. Marxist. In America those individuals have been guided by Judeo Christian morals and values. Marxist and Marxist tools like you would take away the moral base of our American society and make human beings in control of the so-called 'collective.' When the 'collective' has no moral base it is easy to get them to do most anything. Including disarming themselves, murdering millions of Jews and lately, closing down a whole country and mandate the wearing of nose-diapers. You are so lost I fear you're already gone. Sad really.

Militia and the People are collective and plural not Individual and singular. And, well regulated militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; Becuase of the Collective nature of the Organization.

The unorganized militia, as Individuals of the People do not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment for their Individual selves due to that fact and are subject to the police power of their State as a result.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Totally wrong.
The organized militia do not normally exist.
They are created on the fly when needed, from the unorganized militia individuals.
So you can't have an organized militia of citizen soldiers unless the individual right of firearms is protected.

The police power of their state also is misunderstood because there were almost no permanent police at that time, and the police powers come from and are enforced by the armed individuals of the state.
Police powers refers to the face the limits of individuals comes from when there is a conflict between the rights of multiple individuals, and a compromise has to be settled between them. That is the only source of any legal restrictions on anyone.

How did you reach your conclusion?

The defense and protection of the state and of the United States is an obligation of all persons within the state. The legislature shall provide for the discharge of this obligation and for the maintenance and regulation of an organized militia.

 

[danielpalos]

The phrase "well regulated" means well armed and practiced when it comes to gun rights, it does not mean restricted or controlled.

No, it doesn't. Well regulated must be prescribed by our federal Congress for the militia of the United States.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

 

[danielpalos]

Militia and the People are collective and plural not Individual and singular. And, well regulated militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; Becuase of the Collective nature of the Organization.

The unorganized militia, as Individuals of the People do not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment for their Individual selves due to that fact and are subject to the police power of their State as a result.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Militia and People are individuals, not a governmental collective. They act in their own favor which is guided by Judeo Christian morals and values. There is no central government control needed. You missed the entire point. Why am I not surprised? Your brain has been Marxist washed. There is no such thing as an 'unorganized militia' you just made up that definition out of thin air as most Marxists do. Change the lexicon, right out of 'Rules For Radicals'.....You've been identified.

The People are the Militia. You are either well regulated and have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for your State or the Union; or, you are unorganized and subject to the police power of your State or the Union.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Oh I see, 'well regulated' to you means controlled by central government or a ruling authority. That is exactly the opposite of what the 2nd was created for. But then, you read with Marxist eyes and interpret with a Marxist brain.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

And,

Article 2, Section 26 (Arizona State Constitution): The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself or the state shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain, or employ an armed body of men.

 

[danielpalos]

Why do Right-Wingers have any problem whatsoever being Legal to our own Laws when not in border threads?

 

[Leo123]

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

And,

And none of that prohibits individuals from owning firearms does it?

 

[danielpalos]

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

And,

And none of that prohibits individuals from owning firearms does it?

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

 

[Leo123]

Why do Right-Wingers have any problem whatsoever being Legal to our own Laws when not in border threads?

Why do left wingers try to redefine well known meanings? Oh yeah, in order to undermine the power of the individual so they can be controlled by a central authority.

 

[Leo123]

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Where does it say 'subject to?' P.S. funny faces don't count.

 

[danielpalos]

Why do Right-Wingers have any problem whatsoever being Legal to our own Laws when not in border threads?

Why do left wingers try to redefine well known meanings? Oh yeah, in order to undermine the power of the individual so they can be controlled by a central authority.

Our Second Amendment is quite clear about the rationale and "central authority":

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

 

[danielpalos]

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

Where does it say 'subject to?'

You can't appeal to ignorance of the law.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

 

[Leo123]

Our Second Amendment is quite clear about the rationale and "central authority":

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

More made up fairy tales. It doesn't say "central authority" and you left out a lot of verbiage such as "to provide for" and "may be employed" or "such part of them"....(taken from YOUR prior post). The Second Amendment does not provide ANY rationale for a "central authority" to prohibit the ownership of firearms or their use. Instead, it commands the government to ASSIST in organizing an armed population from time to time as may be needed. You asshats sure like to make shit up.

 

[Leo123]

You can't appeal to ignorance of the law.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

That's a STATE law that has 0 to do with the second amendment.

 

[danielpalos]

Our Second Amendment is quite clear about the rationale and "central authority":

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

More made up fairy tales. It doesn't say "central authority" and you left out a lot of verbiage such as "to provide for" and "may be employed" or "such part of them"....(taken from YOUR prior post). The Second Amendment does not provide ANY rationale for a "central authority" to prohibit the ownership of firearms or their use. Instead, it commands the government to ASSIST in organizing an armed population from time to time as may be needed. You asshats sure like to make shit up.

What is this?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

 

[danielpalos]

You can't appeal to ignorance of the law.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

That's a STATE law that has 0 to do with the second amendment.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State,

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No, it isn't you ignorant right wing Russian tool.

The People are the Militia.

I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people, except for a few public officials."
— George Mason, in Debates in Virginia Convention on
Ratification of the Constitution, Elliot, Vol. 3, June 16, 1788

The People are made up of individuals, Mr. Marxist. In America those individuals have been guided by Judeo Christian morals and values. Marxist and Marxist tools like you would take away the moral base of our American society and make human beings in control of the so-called 'collective.' When the 'collective' has no moral base it is easy to get them to do most anything. Including disarming themselves, murdering millions of Jews and lately, closing down a whole country and mandate the wearing of nose-diapers. You are so lost I fear you're already gone. Sad really.

Militia and the People are collective and plural not Individual and singular. And, well regulated militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment when keeping and bearing Arms for their State or the Union; Becuase of the Collective nature of the Organization.

The unorganized militia, as Individuals of the People do not have literal recourse to our Second Amendment for their Individual selves due to that fact and are subject to the police power of their State as a result.

Subject only to the police power, the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. (Illinois State Constitution)

George Mason says you're a lying sack of shit