Biden to Netanyahu: The US won’t support Israel.

[postman]

Israel intelligence is the best in the world, they knew

If they are the best then why did they allow Hamas to attack Jews in Israel?

They knew about October 7th. But dismissed the intelligence, thinking that Hamas wasn't organized enough to pull off a coordinated attack like that.

It wasn't an intelligence failure, but a failure to use intelligence.

 

[Marener]

The usual, "but... but... but what about Trump"

One can draw a direct connection between Biden's appeasement of the Mullocrats and their attack aimed at Israel.

"Don't" is hardly a tactic.

Low information posters can defend the humiliation of Biden.

No, just pointing out your hypocrisy.

Your connection is a product of deep seated partisanship. Not reality.

 

[Dragonlady]

Once again he is siding with the terrorists. What a feckless President he is. Worst ever.



President Biden told Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a call on Saturday that the U.S. won't support any Israeli counterattack against Iran, a senior White House official told Axios.
Why it matters: Biden and his senior advisers are highly concerned an Israeli response to Iran's attack on Israel would lead to a regional war with catastrophic consequences, U.S. officials said.

• Iran launched attack drones and missiles against Israel on Saturday night local time in retaliation for an airstrike in Syria that killed a top Iranian general.
• "More than 200 drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles were fired from Iran," IDF spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said. Most of the threats were intercepted outside of Israeli airspace, he said.
• A U.S. defense official earlier said U.S. forces in the region shot down Iranian-launched drones targeting Israel.

Behind the scenes: Biden told Netanyahu the joint defensive efforts by Israel, the U.S. and other countries in the region led to the failure of the Iranian attack, according to the White House official.

• "You got a win. Take the win," Biden told Netanyahu, according to the official.
• The official said that when Biden told Netanyahu that the U.S. will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran and will not support such operations, Netanyahu said he understood.
• U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin spoke on Saturday with his Israeli counterpart Yoav Gallant and asked that Israel notify the U.S. ahead of any response against Iran, a senior Israeli official said

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/14/biden-netanyahu-iran-israel-us-wont-support

Your thread title is a COMPLETE lie, Nostra Dumbass. Biden did NOT say he wouldn't support Israel, but lying is what you do, like a good Russian poster.

 

[postman]

The usual, "but... but... but what about Trump"

So it's only BAD when democrats do it.

Got it!

 

[Dragonlady]

They knew about October 7th. But dismissed the intelligence, thinking that Hamas wasn't organized enough to pull off a coordinated attack like that.

It wasn't an intelligence failure, but a failure to use intelligence.

Netanyahu LET it happen because he wanted to stay in power. Just like he financed Hamas so he could frighten the Israeli people into voting for him.

 

[postman]

… and by becoming my enemy their life gets much shorter, very quickly.

A very bold statement coming from somebody with a couch and a keyboard.

 

[CowboyTed]

Don't forget Israeli bombs. (mostly unguided) that rained indiscriminately down on Gaza. Their version of going after Hamas, was to take down the entire neighborhood Hamas was hiding in.

My issue with the whole thing was 'What's the point?'

Isreal levelled areas in Lebanon and it didn't get rid of Hezbollah, it actually made them stronger..

In September last year under huge pressure from Egypt they announced elections. By most polls Hamas were going to loose, Fatah who have more moderate views and are looking for a two state solution were going to make more compromise solution.

Polls Show Majority of Gazans Were Against Breaking Ceasefire; Hamas and Hezbollah Unpopular Among Key Arab Publics

Recent Washington Institute polls have tracked Gazans’ views on Hamas and the ceasefire with Israel, along with a wider regional decline in popularity for Hamas and Hezbollah.

www.washingtoninstitute.org

The Hard Right in Isreal dodn't want this either... They want a war to end wars and get Palestinians out of Palestine... They need them violent so they can justify there violence. Bibi doesn't object to this too much, if at all..

So before October 7th, Hamas was going and if Fatah rule, violence could be reduced especially as the focus would be on illegal settlers in the West Bank. These are the main instigators of violence in the West Bank..

Hamas's actions on Oct 7th were horrific war crimes preformed by and ordered by war criminals who didn't represent the people of Gaza.

The Right in Isreal knew what to do... They were going to attack under the guise to get rid of Hamas in full knowledge bombing Gaza would only create sympathy for Hamas all over Arab world and increase donantions and support for these War Criminals.

So is there in an increase support in Gaza? We someone is bombing you and your family, you are will support the people who are defending you. It is survival.. Hamas may have started this but you want your family to live.

Isreal fell for the Hard Right trap... They are not condemned to another generation of fighting and sending their kids to war every year.

So what should have Isreal done?
Well first investigate and identify the leaders in Hamas involved in the Oct 7th attack. Send out international arrest warrants for them.

Send Fatah and other Arabs forces into Gaza to arrest the criminals. h=Have them tried in the Hague. All above board. (If Fatah/Arbs refuse then say that the IDF will and it cause way more casualties).

After that, go into talks with Fatah about clearing out the illegal settlers and land swaps...

Acknowledge there are hardliners on both sides that don't want peace, understand that and understand that the moderates from both ISreal and Palestine are the majority and they need to be in charge...

Palestinian poll shows a rise in Hamas support and close to 90% wanting US-backed Abbas to resign

The findings signal more difficulties for the Biden administration’s postwar vision for Gaza and raise questions about Israel’s goal of ending Hamas’ capabilities.

apnews.com

 

[Anathema]

A very bold statement coming from somebody with a couch and a keyboard.

That is the mentality necessary to be true to o self. Until this country returns to that mentality (something we could learn from Usrael), we will always be taken advantage of by the rest of the world.

 

[postman]

That is the mentality necessary to be true to o self. Until this country returns to that mentality (something we could learn from Usrael), we will always be taken advantage of by the rest of the world.

The unrestrained killing of innocents?

That thinking is why they chant "Death to America".

 

[Anathema]

The unrestrained killing of innocents?

That thinking is why they chant "Death to America".

There are no innocents in a combat zone. Many veterans and LEOs I know personally have made that very clear to me over the years. Allies or Enemies. Failing to support one IS support for the other. There is no middle ground.

 

[postman]

There are no innocents in a combat zone.

Dale Carnegie "How to make friends and influence people"

Lesson one: You don't make friends by killing their family.

 

[struth]

Netanyahu LET it happen because he wanted to stay in power. Just like he financed Hamas so he could frighten the Israeli people into voting for him.

Hamas is funded by dems via iran

 

[postman]

Hamas is funded by dems via iran

Iran makes money selling arms and oil to Russia and China.

 

[Anathema]

Dale Carnegie "How to make friends and influence people"

Lesson one: You don't make friends by killing their family.

Dale had the mistaken idea that some of us want friends. I’d far rather be feared or hated than loved. Fear is far more impactful in people.

 

[postman]

Dale had the mistaken idea that some of us want friends. I’d far rather be feared than loved. Fear is far more impactful in people.

A quote from Julius Ceasar?

 

[struth]

Iran makes money selling arms and oil to Russia and China.

And from Obama and xiden just giving them a pallet full of cash

 

[the other mike]

Once again he is siding with the terrorists. What a feckless President he is. Worst ever.



President Biden told Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a call on Saturday that the U.S. won't support any Israeli counterattack against Iran, a senior White House official told Axios.
Why it matters: Biden and his senior advisers are highly concerned an Israeli response to Iran's attack on Israel would lead to a regional war with catastrophic consequences, U.S. officials said.

• Iran launched attack drones and missiles against Israel on Saturday night local time in retaliation for an airstrike in Syria that killed a top Iranian general.
• "More than 200 drones, cruise missiles and ballistic missiles were fired from Iran," IDF spokesperson Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said. Most of the threats were intercepted outside of Israeli airspace, he said.
• A U.S. defense official earlier said U.S. forces in the region shot down Iranian-launched drones targeting Israel.

Behind the scenes: Biden told Netanyahu the joint defensive efforts by Israel, the U.S. and other countries in the region led to the failure of the Iranian attack, according to the White House official.

• "You got a win. Take the win," Biden told Netanyahu, according to the official.
• The official said that when Biden told Netanyahu that the U.S. will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran and will not support such operations, Netanyahu said he understood.
• U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin spoke on Saturday with his Israeli counterpart Yoav Gallant and asked that Israel notify the U.S. ahead of any response against Iran, a senior Israeli official said

https://www.axios.com/2024/04/14/biden-netanyahu-iran-israel-us-wont-support

Biden doesn't want $10 a gallon gas before the election . Keeping the Straight of Hormuz open is the #1 priority.

 

[Anathema]

A quote from Julius Ceasar?

No, it’s my own.

You know without a doubt where you stand when someone fears or hates you. There’s no subtlety or question about what they might do.

 

[postman]

And from Obama and xiden just giving them a pallet full of cash

The total estimated value of Tehran's oil exports since February 2021 is between $88 billion and $98 billion

 

[MagicMike]

Israel isn't going to listen to Celery Stick

You know it REALLY helps to actually READ the article in the OP you are trying to reply to instead of just using every thread as another opportunity to chime in and childishly bash your president.
For example, as for "Israel "listening to" Biden you must have missed this part in the article:

• The official said that when Biden told Netanyahu that the U.S. will not participate in any offensive operations against Iran and will not support such operations, Netanyahu said he understood.