BIDEN VS. TRUMP, who will you vote for on November 3, 2020?

[AntonToo]

Biden will get all the moderates, a good amount of both Conservative and Liberals.

He won't get the extremist vote - neither right or left.

Biden is the best for ending the extremism that pervaded American politics for the past 10 years or so.

The question is:

Is that a good or a bad thing?

But he is kinda old...

 

[JWBooth]

BIDEN VS. TRUMP, who will you vote for on November 3, 2020?


None of the above.

 

[initforme]

None of the above.....it's beyond time for a superior third party

 

[mudwhistle]

Yep.
Joe Biden will go along with the Global Establishment on anything they want.
Screw sovereignty, screw the taxpayers, screw Christians, screw patriotism.
Open the floodgates on the borders.
Welcome in the first transexual Supreme Court Justice.

Trump and his love of PUTIN's/RUSSIA shows you where he stands on patriotism. That's not just up-patriotic, it is treasonous.

We live in a world created by Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, set up in such a way that its global institutions benefit the United States which is at the head of the pack. Trump wants to dismantle that or at least has tried to, which is not in the interest of the United States or most of the rest of the world. It is in the interest of RUSSIA and CHINA though to do that.

The only people who care about sexual orientation are homophobes. These are the same people decades ago that did not want African Americans on the Supreme Court as well. 160 years ago, this was the same type of thinking that wanted to continue slavery.

Well you're a stupid motherfucker because Mueller said Trump never had anything to do with Russians. Can't say the same about Hillary. She sold them our Uranium and worked with them thru the UK to spy on Trump.

FACTS:

01. Trump wanted to withdraw the United States from NATO hurting U.S. and European Security while strengthening Russia. He failed in his effort, but the effort shows where Trump's mind is.

02. He actually debated and thought about recognizing Russia's illegal invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014.

03. He met with Putin for 3 hours alone, without any aids except a translator, at their meeting in Helsinki Finland. You don't do that when you have nothing to hide and are not guilty of some type of collusion.

04. Former CIA director, John Brennan, said that Trumps behavior in Helsinki Finland with Putin amounted to TREASON!

05. Trump, in front of the whole world, sided with Putin and Russian intelligence services over U.S. intelligence services on whether the Russians interfered in the 2016 Presidential Election.

06. Trump has given North Korea everything it wants in terms of meetings and diplomacy. Trump has received nothing in return from North Korea. Trump has made KIM JUNG UN even stronger in North Korea than he was before.

07. TRUMP lied about his business dealings and or discussions with Russia prior to the 2016 election.

08. TRUMP attempted to obstruct investigations into his dealings with Russia before and after the campaign through the firing of FBI director James Comey.

09. TRUMP asked Russia to do everything it could to find "Hillary's E-mails" and other information about the Clinton campaign. Hours later, Russian intelligence was hacking into Democratic Headquarters and the heads of the Democratic Party stealing information. That's worse than the Watergate Breakin back in 1972. Again, in both cases, the Democratic Party having their campaign broken into, except in 2016, Trump asked a foreign enemy to do it. Imagine if NIXON had asked the Soviet KGB to break into Watergate in 1972? Nixon would have been removed from office by his own cabinet in that case, long before congress could get his hands on him.

10. It has been found through extensive investigation, that the Russians mounted a heavy campaign to interfere in the United States 2016 elections in order to get Donald Trump elected. Ask yourself why Russia wanted Trump so badly to be the next U.S. President? It should concern and scare everyone. Its part of the reason why Trump needs to be removed from the White House as soon possible.

The Helsinki meeting was no different than any other meeting with world leaders. The president does a photo-op in front of reporters and meets privately with them off camera. This the way it is always done, but for some reason the corrupt media felt this wasn't legal or ethical. Let's not forget Obama telling a Russian that all had to do was wait till after the election and Obama would work out a more "flexible" deal. If anyone was doing something suspicious it was Obama.

No, you do not meet for three hours in a closed room without any of your cabinet members and just one translator. Its also significant that any notes the translator took were destroyed. This is a first for a President. Its alarmingly treasonous given the fact that Russia is an adversary.

No....you don't automatically bring cabinet members to meetings like that.....and everything you said was what was reported by the press.....which is highly dubious to say the least.
This same press felt that if Trump didn't put a bullet in Putins head immediately upon sight he was effectively kissing his Russian ass.

 

[Esmeralda]

Joe Biden all the way. I hope Joe Biden wins by a landslide over Trump!

It will be fun to watch them go at each other in the debates. Trump will shred Joe like he won't know what hits him.
But I wish you luck.

I seriously doubt it. Usually when dignified people like Joe Biden are up against some sleazy jerk like Trump, the dignified people make the sleaze bags look like what they are - sleaze bags.

Did you seriously just call Biden dignified? LMFAO

Compared to Drumph, Biden is exceedingly dignified.

Do you like Joe with or without his white hood?

Are you crazy? Trump is the one with the white hood.

 

[Esmeralda]

Joe Biden all the way. I hope Joe Biden wins by a landslide over Trump!

It will be fun to watch them go at each other in the debates. Trump will shred Joe like he won't know what hits him.
But I wish you luck.

I seriously doubt it. Usually when dignified people like Joe Biden are up against some sleazy jerk like Trump, the dignified people make the sleaze bags look like what they are - sleaze bags.

Did you seriously just call Biden dignified? LMFAO

Compared to Drumph, Biden is exceedingly dignified.

Not even close. One would have to "suspend disbelief" in order to think that. Both are morally indefensible, and neither can be called dignified.

What has Biden done that is 'morally indefensible'? And how is he not dignified? You live in an imaginary world.

 

[mudwhistle]

It will be fun to watch them go at each other in the debates. Trump will shred Joe like he won't know what hits him.
But I wish you luck.

I seriously doubt it. Usually when dignified people like Joe Biden are up against some sleazy jerk like Trump, the dignified people make the sleaze bags look like what they are - sleaze bags.

Did you seriously just call Biden dignified? LMFAO

Compared to Drumph, Biden is exceedingly dignified.

Do you like Joe with or without his white hood?

Are you crazy? Trump is the one with the white hood.

Yeah...... He ain't no-ways tired.

 

[mudwhistle]

It will be fun to watch them go at each other in the debates. Trump will shred Joe like he won't know what hits him.
But I wish you luck.

I seriously doubt it. Usually when dignified people like Joe Biden are up against some sleazy jerk like Trump, the dignified people make the sleaze bags look like what they are - sleaze bags.

Did you seriously just call Biden dignified? LMFAO

Compared to Drumph, Biden is exceedingly dignified.

Not even close. One would have to "suspend disbelief" in order to think that. Both are morally indefensible, and neither can be called dignified.

What has Biden done that is 'morally indefensible'? And how is he not dignified? You live in an imaginary world.

Biden is just fine.....till he opens his pie-hole.

Make America Straight Again? Watch Joe Biden's First Campaign Gaffe - Big League Politics

 

[Justin Richardson]

What has Biden done that is 'morally indefensible'? And how is he not dignified?

He is starting a Huggathon to boost his campaign. You can hug him (immorally or morally) for just $100 for ten seconds. And pay an extra $50 for him to smell your hair.

(Of course, I am kidding. But imagine having "President Huggable" in the Oval Office?)

 

[U2Edge]

If you mean Trump, that's correct. Trump is a Russian/Putin ally, a traitor to his country. Lets remove this Russian mole from the White House as soon as possible.

You still carrying that stale falsehood?
Biden has real baggage.

FACTS:

01. Trump wanted to withdraw the United States from NATO hurting U.S. and European Security while strengthening Russia. He failed in his effort, but the effort shows where Trump's mind is.

02. He actually debated and thought about recognizing Russia's illegal invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014.

03. He met with Putin for 3 hours alone, without any aids except a translator, at their meeting in Helsinki Finland. You don't do that when you have nothing to hide and are not guilty of some type of collusion.

04. Former CIA director, John Brennan, said that Trumps behavior in Helsinki Finland with Putin amounted to TREASON!

05. Trump, in front of the whole world, sided with Putin and Russian intelligence services over U.S. intelligence services on whether the Russians interfered in the 2016 Presidential Election.

06. Trump has given North Korea everything it wants in terms of meetings and diplomacy. Trump has received nothing in return from North Korea. Trump has made KIM JUNG UN even stronger in North Korea than he was before.

07. TRUMP lied about his business dealings and or discussions with Russia prior to the 2016 election.

08. TRUMP attempted to obstruct investigations into his dealings with Russia before and after the campaign through the firing of FBI director James Comey.

09. TRUMP asked Russia to do everything it could to find "Hillary's E-mails" and other information about the Clinton campaign. Hours later, Russian intelligence was hacking into Democratic Headquarters and the heads of the Democratic Party stealing information. That's worse than the Watergate Breakin back in 1972. Again, in both cases, the Democratic Party having their campaign broken into, except in 2016, Trump asked a foreign enemy to do it. Imagine if NIXON had asked the Soviet KGB to break into Watergate in 1972? Nixon would have been removed from office by his own cabinet in that case, long before congress could get his hands on him.

10. It has been found through extensive investigation, that the Russians mounted a heavy campaign to interfere in the United States 2016 elections in order to get Donald Trump elected. Ask yourself why Russia wanted Trump so badly to be the next U.S. President? It should concern and scare everyone. Its part of the reason why Trump needs to be removed from the White House as soon possible.

1) He did that because he did not believe other countries were paying their fair share.

2) Annexation happened under BHO. He took over a tough situation. He did arm the Ukrainians and did kill 200 Russian Mercs in Syria and did impose sanctions on Russia.

3) He did it to show that he has the power and authority to represent the US. He understands negotiation. As Collin Powell, whom I respect a lot, stated. Sometimes you have to eat a lot of ugly when dealing with bad people. Putin is a former KGB assassin. You have to tread lightly but firmly.

4) Brennan is a cook and a partisan hack. And has been laughed at by contemporaries. Google it.

5) He stated that Russians didn't help him win. A lot of it was political posturing but I agree he should have handled it better. You got one.

6) He has kept Kim Jung Un the same. Not sure how he is "stronger" or "weaker" but at least he is trying to do something and S. Korea supports this.

7) He did. You got another one.

8) Subjective. AG disagrees. I can see both sides. Again subjective.

9) It was a joke and he did it on National TV. LOL. Chill. You're not disturbed by the 33k deleted emails, bleached server and 12 smashed blackberries?

10) Russia wanted Chaos in the US and they succeeded. Mueller found no conspiracy or collusion.

Next...

01. Historically, NATO countries efforts at spending and military capability were always highest when the United States made its greatest contributions in terms of basing U.S. forces in Europe. In the past when the United States left things up to Europe alone, we got World War I and then World War II. If Trump is, supposedly, trying to get Europe to do more, he is going about it the wrong way based on history. Reality is that Trump does not understand international relations, history, or NATO itself. He moranically looks at it as some type of business transaction which it is anything but.

02. True, but Barack Obama condemned the annexation as illegal. In contrast, Trump has considered recognizing Crimea as part of Russia. Trump did NOT order the attack on Russian mercenaries in Syria. The 300 Russian mercenaries were killed because they attack a Kurdish base that had U.S. advisors. The U.S. advisors called in air support to defend the Kurdish base. It was only after the attack was over that U.S advisors and Kurdish forces discovered that the attackers had actually been Russian mercenaries. TRUMP NEVER ordered anything. He learned about the whole think like you, through the media or an intelligence report. It was likely the media since Trump rarely reads any of his intelligence reports.

03. No excuse. U.S. Presidents don't show power and authority by meeting in private with an enemy adversary without any cabinet members. That does not show power or authority. It only shows weakness and subservience to a foreign power.

04. Whatever criticism you can muster against John Brennan, it pales in comparison to what can be done against Trump. I'd trust former CIA director John Brennan any day over Trump and his sycophants.

05. He is on the record in asking the Russians to help him though. The Russians did interfere in the election in order to try to help Trump win it.

06. North Korean leaders for decades have asked for a face to face meeting with a U.S. President. Why? It bolsters the North Korean leader in the eyes of their people, and gives them a stage on the world scene with the most powerful country. It helps bolster the image of the North Korean leader and home and abroad. So Trump gave them this HUGE diplomatic gift and got nothing in return. In the meantime, North Korean military and WMD programs continue in development.

07. What else is he lying about.

08. I'd say its cut and dry. When was the last time a President fired a sitting FBI director that was investigating the President from criminal conduct?

09. Hillary Clinton is not running for President. Donald Trump is and asked the Russians to get him information. They broke into the DNC for him. Just like in 1972. Except this time, its not simply another political party, its a foreign enemy of the United States. Its worse than Watergate.

10. This point had nothing to do with conspiracy or collusion. Its all about Russia and why they interfered in the 2016 elections to help TRUMP.

Not finding evidence of what Mueller DEFINES as conspiracy and collusion does not mean it did not happen. I would define many of the dealings as both conspiracy and collusion. Hell, I define meeting alone with Putin for 3 hours in Helskini Finland to be conspiracy and collusion.

1) Subjective. He wants NATO to pay its "fair share". What that is or means is up to experts and that is neither you nor I but that is why he threatened to exit.

2) Link? Not as I understand it. Obama said words and did nothing. Trump DID arm the Ukrainians. And it was Pompeo who approved the strike, Trump's appointee.

3) Subjective. How world leaders negotiate is up to them. You don't like it? Vote them out. What he did was not illegal and within his pervue.

4) Subjective. We can argue about this for hours.

5) He is on the record in front of millions and no one cared because everyone thought he would lose. He wasn't hiding anything.

6) So from that "gift" what exactly happened? How are we worse off? How are the NK people worse off?

7) IDK...all politicians lie. Bush lied. Clinton lied. Reagan lied.

8) He fired Comey for incompetence and many agree. In fact many Democrats agreed.

9) At the time they were both running for POTUS. What are you talking about?

10) Who was the POTUS in 2016? It was BHO. Why didn't he stop them? Or say anything about it? Because he like everyone else thought HRC would win.

Your posts smell like sour grapes. You need to take a class in political science and another in economics.

01. Its not subjective its historical fact. NATO forces fielded its largest forces in Europe in terms of numbers combat brigades, divisions, main battle tanks, artillery, combat aircraft, when U.S. deployments in Europe were at their peak. That and the case of World War I and World War II, proves that the only way to get Europeans to responsibly maintain military capability is having the United States lead the way on the continent. The United States withdrawing from NATO would just take Europe back to the 1930s when security was neglected.

02. The President is not involved in ordering sudden battlefield strikes in Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq. Soldiers on the ground don't have to ask for permission to defend themselves. The attack was launched by the para-military group on a Kurdish headquarters near the town of Khasham Syria at 10 PM Syrian time. The fighting lasted 4 hours. "According to the U.S. military, the presence of U.S. special operations personnel in the targeted base elicited a response by U.S.-led coalition aircraft, including AC-130 gunships, F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jets, unmanned aerial vehicles (MQ-9), AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, B-52s, and F-22s.[10][8][9] Nearby U.S. Marine artillery batteries, including a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, shelled Syrian forces as well.[9] " This was a sudden rapidly escalating situation. Approval for the strike came from the U.S. military in order to protect the lives of U.S. military personal at the base. The response to the attack came within minutes. The United States always has aircraft flying through Syrian Air Space 24/7 ready to respond to an emergency. This was an emergency. No one in the chain of command outside of the region was contacted for the strike. THERE WAS NO NEED NOR ENOUGH TIME.
Battle of Khasham - Wikipedia

03. It was unusual, bizarre and raised deep concerns among members of the intelligence community. John Brennan stated that Trumps behavior in Helsinki amounted to Treason!

04. Yep, and you would be on the losing side for hours trying to defend the indefensible with regards to Trump.

05. Whatever, the fact remains, he asked the Russians for help, and they broke into the DNC for him. Watergate 1972 all over again except this time a foreign enemy of the United States is involved which makes it WORSE!

06. The world and the North Korean people are worse off because the gift strengthened Kims position in North Korea. You could have used the meeting to leverage getting U.S. inspectors on the ground in North Korea to start dismantling the Nuclear program. Kim gets to meet the President of the United States on the world stage, but in return we get something as well. That didn't happen! Wasted opportunity! The North Koreans have been trying to set up such a meeting for decades and Trump gave it to them for NOTHING!

07. They did not lie about anything relevant to national or international policy.

08. No one at the FBI agrees. The only Democrats that agree are those who think he treated Hillary unfairly. Supposedly Trump fired Comey because of his actions related to Hillary E-mail, something Trump was on record at the time of supporting! So no, that shows it was about one thing and one thing only, obstructing the investigation into his dealings with Russia. That's a obstruction of Justice and just one of the reasons why Trump needs to be impeached and removed from office!

09. Except Trumps actions led to the break in of the DNC by the Russians in order to get info to help Trump, which Trump was willing to receive. Watergate 1972 all over again.

10. Again, there were meetings between Russian officials and Trump campaign officials. They both talked about defeating Hillary Clinton. Trumps team was ready to receive any info the Russians had. The Russians actively went about getting it for team Trump.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You still carrying that stale falsehood?
Biden has real baggage.

FACTS:

01. Trump wanted to withdraw the United States from NATO hurting U.S. and European Security while strengthening Russia. He failed in his effort, but the effort shows where Trump's mind is.

02. He actually debated and thought about recognizing Russia's illegal invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014.

03. He met with Putin for 3 hours alone, without any aids except a translator, at their meeting in Helsinki Finland. You don't do that when you have nothing to hide and are not guilty of some type of collusion.

04. Former CIA director, John Brennan, said that Trumps behavior in Helsinki Finland with Putin amounted to TREASON!

05. Trump, in front of the whole world, sided with Putin and Russian intelligence services over U.S. intelligence services on whether the Russians interfered in the 2016 Presidential Election.

06. Trump has given North Korea everything it wants in terms of meetings and diplomacy. Trump has received nothing in return from North Korea. Trump has made KIM JUNG UN even stronger in North Korea than he was before.

07. TRUMP lied about his business dealings and or discussions with Russia prior to the 2016 election.

08. TRUMP attempted to obstruct investigations into his dealings with Russia before and after the campaign through the firing of FBI director James Comey.

09. TRUMP asked Russia to do everything it could to find "Hillary's E-mails" and other information about the Clinton campaign. Hours later, Russian intelligence was hacking into Democratic Headquarters and the heads of the Democratic Party stealing information. That's worse than the Watergate Breakin back in 1972. Again, in both cases, the Democratic Party having their campaign broken into, except in 2016, Trump asked a foreign enemy to do it. Imagine if NIXON had asked the Soviet KGB to break into Watergate in 1972? Nixon would have been removed from office by his own cabinet in that case, long before congress could get his hands on him.

10. It has been found through extensive investigation, that the Russians mounted a heavy campaign to interfere in the United States 2016 elections in order to get Donald Trump elected. Ask yourself why Russia wanted Trump so badly to be the next U.S. President? It should concern and scare everyone. Its part of the reason why Trump needs to be removed from the White House as soon possible.

1) He did that because he did not believe other countries were paying their fair share.

2) Annexation happened under BHO. He took over a tough situation. He did arm the Ukrainians and did kill 200 Russian Mercs in Syria and did impose sanctions on Russia.

3) He did it to show that he has the power and authority to represent the US. He understands negotiation. As Collin Powell, whom I respect a lot, stated. Sometimes you have to eat a lot of ugly when dealing with bad people. Putin is a former KGB assassin. You have to tread lightly but firmly.

4) Brennan is a cook and a partisan hack. And has been laughed at by contemporaries. Google it.

5) He stated that Russians didn't help him win. A lot of it was political posturing but I agree he should have handled it better. You got one.

6) He has kept Kim Jung Un the same. Not sure how he is "stronger" or "weaker" but at least he is trying to do something and S. Korea supports this.

7) He did. You got another one.

8) Subjective. AG disagrees. I can see both sides. Again subjective.

9) It was a joke and he did it on National TV. LOL. Chill. You're not disturbed by the 33k deleted emails, bleached server and 12 smashed blackberries?

10) Russia wanted Chaos in the US and they succeeded. Mueller found no conspiracy or collusion.

Next...

01. Historically, NATO countries efforts at spending and military capability were always highest when the United States made its greatest contributions in terms of basing U.S. forces in Europe. In the past when the United States left things up to Europe alone, we got World War I and then World War II. If Trump is, supposedly, trying to get Europe to do more, he is going about it the wrong way based on history. Reality is that Trump does not understand international relations, history, or NATO itself. He moranically looks at it as some type of business transaction which it is anything but.

02. True, but Barack Obama condemned the annexation as illegal. In contrast, Trump has considered recognizing Crimea as part of Russia. Trump did NOT order the attack on Russian mercenaries in Syria. The 300 Russian mercenaries were killed because they attack a Kurdish base that had U.S. advisors. The U.S. advisors called in air support to defend the Kurdish base. It was only after the attack was over that U.S advisors and Kurdish forces discovered that the attackers had actually been Russian mercenaries. TRUMP NEVER ordered anything. He learned about the whole think like you, through the media or an intelligence report. It was likely the media since Trump rarely reads any of his intelligence reports.

03. No excuse. U.S. Presidents don't show power and authority by meeting in private with an enemy adversary without any cabinet members. That does not show power or authority. It only shows weakness and subservience to a foreign power.

04. Whatever criticism you can muster against John Brennan, it pales in comparison to what can be done against Trump. I'd trust former CIA director John Brennan any day over Trump and his sycophants.

05. He is on the record in asking the Russians to help him though. The Russians did interfere in the election in order to try to help Trump win it.

06. North Korean leaders for decades have asked for a face to face meeting with a U.S. President. Why? It bolsters the North Korean leader in the eyes of their people, and gives them a stage on the world scene with the most powerful country. It helps bolster the image of the North Korean leader and home and abroad. So Trump gave them this HUGE diplomatic gift and got nothing in return. In the meantime, North Korean military and WMD programs continue in development.

07. What else is he lying about.

08. I'd say its cut and dry. When was the last time a President fired a sitting FBI director that was investigating the President from criminal conduct?

09. Hillary Clinton is not running for President. Donald Trump is and asked the Russians to get him information. They broke into the DNC for him. Just like in 1972. Except this time, its not simply another political party, its a foreign enemy of the United States. Its worse than Watergate.

10. This point had nothing to do with conspiracy or collusion. Its all about Russia and why they interfered in the 2016 elections to help TRUMP.

Not finding evidence of what Mueller DEFINES as conspiracy and collusion does not mean it did not happen. I would define many of the dealings as both conspiracy and collusion. Hell, I define meeting alone with Putin for 3 hours in Helskini Finland to be conspiracy and collusion.

1) Subjective. He wants NATO to pay its "fair share". What that is or means is up to experts and that is neither you nor I but that is why he threatened to exit.

2) Link? Not as I understand it. Obama said words and did nothing. Trump DID arm the Ukrainians. And it was Pompeo who approved the strike, Trump's appointee.

3) Subjective. How world leaders negotiate is up to them. You don't like it? Vote them out. What he did was not illegal and within his pervue.

4) Subjective. We can argue about this for hours.

5) He is on the record in front of millions and no one cared because everyone thought he would lose. He wasn't hiding anything.

6) So from that "gift" what exactly happened? How are we worse off? How are the NK people worse off?

7) IDK...all politicians lie. Bush lied. Clinton lied. Reagan lied.

8) He fired Comey for incompetence and many agree. In fact many Democrats agreed.

9) At the time they were both running for POTUS. What are you talking about?

10) Who was the POTUS in 2016? It was BHO. Why didn't he stop them? Or say anything about it? Because he like everyone else thought HRC would win.

Your posts smell like sour grapes. You need to take a class in political science and another in economics.

01. Its not subjective its historical fact. NATO forces fielded its largest forces in Europe in terms of numbers combat brigades, divisions, main battle tanks, artillery, combat aircraft, when U.S. deployments in Europe were at their peak. That and the case of World War I and World War II, proves that the only way to get Europeans to responsibly maintain military capability is having the United States lead the way on the continent. The United States withdrawing from NATO would just take Europe back to the 1930s when security was neglected.

02. The President is not involved in ordering sudden battlefield strikes in Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq. Soldiers on the ground don't have to ask for permission to defend themselves. The attack was launched by the para-military group on a Kurdish headquarters near the town of Khasham Syria at 10 PM Syrian time. The fighting lasted 4 hours. "According to the U.S. military, the presence of U.S. special operations personnel in the targeted base elicited a response by U.S.-led coalition aircraft, including AC-130 gunships, F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jets, unmanned aerial vehicles (MQ-9), AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, B-52s, and F-22s.[10][8][9] Nearby U.S. Marine artillery batteries, including a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, shelled Syrian forces as well.[9] " This was a sudden rapidly escalating situation. Approval for the strike came from the U.S. military in order to protect the lives of U.S. military personal at the base. The response to the attack came within minutes. The United States always has aircraft flying through Syrian Air Space 24/7 ready to respond to an emergency. This was an emergency. No one in the chain of command outside of the region was contacted for the strike. THERE WAS NO NEED NOR ENOUGH TIME.
Battle of Khasham - Wikipedia

03. It was unusual, bizarre and raised deep concerns among members of the intelligence community. John Brennan stated that Trumps behavior in Helsinki amounted to Treason!

04. Yep, and you would be on the losing side for hours trying to defend the indefensible with regards to Trump.

05. Whatever, the fact remains, he asked the Russians for help, and they broke into the DNC for him. Watergate 1972 all over again except this time a foreign enemy of the United States is involved which makes it WORSE!

06. The world and the North Korean people are worse off because the gift strengthened Kims position in North Korea. You could have used the meeting to leverage getting U.S. inspectors on the ground in North Korea to start dismantling the Nuclear program. Kim gets to meet the President of the United States on the world stage, but in return we get something as well. That didn't happen! Wasted opportunity! The North Koreans have been trying to set up such a meeting for decades and Trump gave it to them for NOTHING!

07. They did not lie about anything relevant to national or international policy.

08. No one at the FBI agrees. The only Democrats that agree are those who think he treated Hillary unfairly. Supposedly Trump fired Comey because of his actions related to Hillary E-mail, something Trump was on record at the time of supporting! So no, that shows it was about one thing and one thing only, obstructing the investigation into his dealings with Russia. That's a obstruction of Justice and just one of the reasons why Trump needs to be impeached and removed from office!

09. Except Trumps actions led to the break in of the DNC by the Russians in order to get info to help Trump, which Trump was willing to receive. Watergate 1972 all over again.

10. Again, there were meetings between Russian officials and Trump campaign officials. They both talked about defeating Hillary Clinton. Trumps team was ready to receive any info the Russians had. The Russians actively went about getting it for team Trump.

1) Again, he wants them to pay their "fair share". We have a $22TRN deficit. Neither you nor I are security experts. Stop trying to act like one.

2) He did kill Russian Mercs, he did arm the Ukrainians (you keep dodging that one) and he did impose sanctions on Russia. We also need Russia to fight the growing radical Islam factions in the ME and Europe. France and the UK certainly aren't doing it.

3) That was his opinion. The people elected Trump and he does as he sees fit. If you don't like it then vote him out. It was not illegal and you know Brennan is biased. BHO sat idly by as Russia interfered in our 2016 election and instead of stopping them he spied on Trump? Odd.

4) In your smug opinion. You have lost every debate to me thus far. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

5) He made a joke on national TV in front of millions and no one cared until he actually won. You know this is true. You're losing badly.

6) NK has been the same since the war that split the countries. Subjective if the people are worse or better. Their situation is awful. South Korea approved these meetings. Trump did his best. I thought it was a waste of time too. But I don't see NK as better off.

7) Really? Benghazi? Fast & Furious? WMDs in Iraq? Again you're losing badly.

8) Again you broad brush. That is simply not true. Many cared. Many still care. Watch the news. Not just CNN and MSNBC.

9) What actions? His joke? If HRC had nothing to hide why the bleaching and destruction of blackberries? Trump openly stated, please hack her emails as a joke. NO ONE cared. Including you. Until she lost. Just admit that. You are losing very badly. Again.

10) They did? I must have missed that in the Mueller report. No conspiracy and no collusion. The only gray area is obstruction.

You lost yet another debate to me. But you keep trying. How long to sing that song?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Biden? Lol NOT A CHANCE

Who announces their candidacy on a pre recorded video and says NOTHING about why you should vote for him or what he stands for but instead rehashes shit from the past?

That is not forward thinking. It is nothing more than shallow platitudes

 

[U2Edge]

FACTS:

01. Trump wanted to withdraw the United States from NATO hurting U.S. and European Security while strengthening Russia. He failed in his effort, but the effort shows where Trump's mind is.

02. He actually debated and thought about recognizing Russia's illegal invasion and annexation of Crimea in 2014.

03. He met with Putin for 3 hours alone, without any aids except a translator, at their meeting in Helsinki Finland. You don't do that when you have nothing to hide and are not guilty of some type of collusion.

04. Former CIA director, John Brennan, said that Trumps behavior in Helsinki Finland with Putin amounted to TREASON!

05. Trump, in front of the whole world, sided with Putin and Russian intelligence services over U.S. intelligence services on whether the Russians interfered in the 2016 Presidential Election.

06. Trump has given North Korea everything it wants in terms of meetings and diplomacy. Trump has received nothing in return from North Korea. Trump has made KIM JUNG UN even stronger in North Korea than he was before.

07. TRUMP lied about his business dealings and or discussions with Russia prior to the 2016 election.

08. TRUMP attempted to obstruct investigations into his dealings with Russia before and after the campaign through the firing of FBI director James Comey.

09. TRUMP asked Russia to do everything it could to find "Hillary's E-mails" and other information about the Clinton campaign. Hours later, Russian intelligence was hacking into Democratic Headquarters and the heads of the Democratic Party stealing information. That's worse than the Watergate Breakin back in 1972. Again, in both cases, the Democratic Party having their campaign broken into, except in 2016, Trump asked a foreign enemy to do it. Imagine if NIXON had asked the Soviet KGB to break into Watergate in 1972? Nixon would have been removed from office by his own cabinet in that case, long before congress could get his hands on him.

10. It has been found through extensive investigation, that the Russians mounted a heavy campaign to interfere in the United States 2016 elections in order to get Donald Trump elected. Ask yourself why Russia wanted Trump so badly to be the next U.S. President? It should concern and scare everyone. Its part of the reason why Trump needs to be removed from the White House as soon possible.

1) He did that because he did not believe other countries were paying their fair share.

2) Annexation happened under BHO. He took over a tough situation. He did arm the Ukrainians and did kill 200 Russian Mercs in Syria and did impose sanctions on Russia.

3) He did it to show that he has the power and authority to represent the US. He understands negotiation. As Collin Powell, whom I respect a lot, stated. Sometimes you have to eat a lot of ugly when dealing with bad people. Putin is a former KGB assassin. You have to tread lightly but firmly.

4) Brennan is a cook and a partisan hack. And has been laughed at by contemporaries. Google it.

5) He stated that Russians didn't help him win. A lot of it was political posturing but I agree he should have handled it better. You got one.

6) He has kept Kim Jung Un the same. Not sure how he is "stronger" or "weaker" but at least he is trying to do something and S. Korea supports this.

7) He did. You got another one.

8) Subjective. AG disagrees. I can see both sides. Again subjective.

9) It was a joke and he did it on National TV. LOL. Chill. You're not disturbed by the 33k deleted emails, bleached server and 12 smashed blackberries?

10) Russia wanted Chaos in the US and they succeeded. Mueller found no conspiracy or collusion.

Next...

01. Historically, NATO countries efforts at spending and military capability were always highest when the United States made its greatest contributions in terms of basing U.S. forces in Europe. In the past when the United States left things up to Europe alone, we got World War I and then World War II. If Trump is, supposedly, trying to get Europe to do more, he is going about it the wrong way based on history. Reality is that Trump does not understand international relations, history, or NATO itself. He moranically looks at it as some type of business transaction which it is anything but.

02. True, but Barack Obama condemned the annexation as illegal. In contrast, Trump has considered recognizing Crimea as part of Russia. Trump did NOT order the attack on Russian mercenaries in Syria. The 300 Russian mercenaries were killed because they attack a Kurdish base that had U.S. advisors. The U.S. advisors called in air support to defend the Kurdish base. It was only after the attack was over that U.S advisors and Kurdish forces discovered that the attackers had actually been Russian mercenaries. TRUMP NEVER ordered anything. He learned about the whole think like you, through the media or an intelligence report. It was likely the media since Trump rarely reads any of his intelligence reports.

03. No excuse. U.S. Presidents don't show power and authority by meeting in private with an enemy adversary without any cabinet members. That does not show power or authority. It only shows weakness and subservience to a foreign power.

04. Whatever criticism you can muster against John Brennan, it pales in comparison to what can be done against Trump. I'd trust former CIA director John Brennan any day over Trump and his sycophants.

05. He is on the record in asking the Russians to help him though. The Russians did interfere in the election in order to try to help Trump win it.

06. North Korean leaders for decades have asked for a face to face meeting with a U.S. President. Why? It bolsters the North Korean leader in the eyes of their people, and gives them a stage on the world scene with the most powerful country. It helps bolster the image of the North Korean leader and home and abroad. So Trump gave them this HUGE diplomatic gift and got nothing in return. In the meantime, North Korean military and WMD programs continue in development.

07. What else is he lying about.

08. I'd say its cut and dry. When was the last time a President fired a sitting FBI director that was investigating the President from criminal conduct?

09. Hillary Clinton is not running for President. Donald Trump is and asked the Russians to get him information. They broke into the DNC for him. Just like in 1972. Except this time, its not simply another political party, its a foreign enemy of the United States. Its worse than Watergate.

10. This point had nothing to do with conspiracy or collusion. Its all about Russia and why they interfered in the 2016 elections to help TRUMP.

Not finding evidence of what Mueller DEFINES as conspiracy and collusion does not mean it did not happen. I would define many of the dealings as both conspiracy and collusion. Hell, I define meeting alone with Putin for 3 hours in Helskini Finland to be conspiracy and collusion.

1) Subjective. He wants NATO to pay its "fair share". What that is or means is up to experts and that is neither you nor I but that is why he threatened to exit.

2) Link? Not as I understand it. Obama said words and did nothing. Trump DID arm the Ukrainians. And it was Pompeo who approved the strike, Trump's appointee.

3) Subjective. How world leaders negotiate is up to them. You don't like it? Vote them out. What he did was not illegal and within his pervue.

4) Subjective. We can argue about this for hours.

5) He is on the record in front of millions and no one cared because everyone thought he would lose. He wasn't hiding anything.

6) So from that "gift" what exactly happened? How are we worse off? How are the NK people worse off?

7) IDK...all politicians lie. Bush lied. Clinton lied. Reagan lied.

8) He fired Comey for incompetence and many agree. In fact many Democrats agreed.

9) At the time they were both running for POTUS. What are you talking about?

10) Who was the POTUS in 2016? It was BHO. Why didn't he stop them? Or say anything about it? Because he like everyone else thought HRC would win.

Your posts smell like sour grapes. You need to take a class in political science and another in economics.

01. Its not subjective its historical fact. NATO forces fielded its largest forces in Europe in terms of numbers combat brigades, divisions, main battle tanks, artillery, combat aircraft, when U.S. deployments in Europe were at their peak. That and the case of World War I and World War II, proves that the only way to get Europeans to responsibly maintain military capability is having the United States lead the way on the continent. The United States withdrawing from NATO would just take Europe back to the 1930s when security was neglected.

02. The President is not involved in ordering sudden battlefield strikes in Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq. Soldiers on the ground don't have to ask for permission to defend themselves. The attack was launched by the para-military group on a Kurdish headquarters near the town of Khasham Syria at 10 PM Syrian time. The fighting lasted 4 hours. "According to the U.S. military, the presence of U.S. special operations personnel in the targeted base elicited a response by U.S.-led coalition aircraft, including AC-130 gunships, F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jets, unmanned aerial vehicles (MQ-9), AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, B-52s, and F-22s.[10][8][9] Nearby U.S. Marine artillery batteries, including a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, shelled Syrian forces as well.[9] " This was a sudden rapidly escalating situation. Approval for the strike came from the U.S. military in order to protect the lives of U.S. military personal at the base. The response to the attack came within minutes. The United States always has aircraft flying through Syrian Air Space 24/7 ready to respond to an emergency. This was an emergency. No one in the chain of command outside of the region was contacted for the strike. THERE WAS NO NEED NOR ENOUGH TIME.
Battle of Khasham - Wikipedia

03. It was unusual, bizarre and raised deep concerns among members of the intelligence community. John Brennan stated that Trumps behavior in Helsinki amounted to Treason!

04. Yep, and you would be on the losing side for hours trying to defend the indefensible with regards to Trump.

05. Whatever, the fact remains, he asked the Russians for help, and they broke into the DNC for him. Watergate 1972 all over again except this time a foreign enemy of the United States is involved which makes it WORSE!

06. The world and the North Korean people are worse off because the gift strengthened Kims position in North Korea. You could have used the meeting to leverage getting U.S. inspectors on the ground in North Korea to start dismantling the Nuclear program. Kim gets to meet the President of the United States on the world stage, but in return we get something as well. That didn't happen! Wasted opportunity! The North Koreans have been trying to set up such a meeting for decades and Trump gave it to them for NOTHING!

07. They did not lie about anything relevant to national or international policy.

08. No one at the FBI agrees. The only Democrats that agree are those who think he treated Hillary unfairly. Supposedly Trump fired Comey because of his actions related to Hillary E-mail, something Trump was on record at the time of supporting! So no, that shows it was about one thing and one thing only, obstructing the investigation into his dealings with Russia. That's a obstruction of Justice and just one of the reasons why Trump needs to be impeached and removed from office!

09. Except Trumps actions led to the break in of the DNC by the Russians in order to get info to help Trump, which Trump was willing to receive. Watergate 1972 all over again.

10. Again, there were meetings between Russian officials and Trump campaign officials. They both talked about defeating Hillary Clinton. Trumps team was ready to receive any info the Russians had. The Russians actively went about getting it for team Trump.

1) Again, he wants them to pay their "fair share". We have a $22TRN deficit. Neither you nor I are security experts. Stop trying to act like one.

2) He did kill Russian Mercs, he did arm the Ukrainians (you keep dodging that one) and he did impose sanctions on Russia. We also need Russia to fight the growing radical Islam factions in the ME and Europe. France and the UK certainly aren't doing it.

3) That was his opinion. The people elected Trump and he does as he sees fit. If you don't like it then vote him out. It was not illegal and you know Brennan is biased. BHO sat idly by as Russia interfered in our 2016 election and instead of stopping them he spied on Trump? Odd.

4) In your smug opinion. You have lost every debate to me thus far. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

5) He made a joke on national TV in front of millions and no one cared until he actually won. You know this is true. You're losing badly.

6) NK has been the same since the war that split the countries. Subjective if the people are worse or better. Their situation is awful. South Korea approved these meetings. Trump did his best. I thought it was a waste of time too. But I don't see NK as better off.

7) Really? Benghazi? Fast & Furious? WMDs in Iraq? Again you're losing badly.

8) Again you broad brush. That is simply not true. Many cared. Many still care. Watch the news. Not just CNN and MSNBC.

9) What actions? His joke? If HRC had nothing to hide why the bleaching and destruction of blackberries? Trump openly stated, please hack her emails as a joke. NO ONE cared. Including you. Until she lost. Just admit that. You are losing very badly. Again.

10) They did? I must have missed that in the Mueller report. No conspiracy and no collusion. The only gray area is obstruction.

You lost yet another debate to me. But you keep trying. How long to sing that song?

01. NATO has never had a spending requirement for any countries in the Alliance. During Obama's second term, spending 2% of GDP on defense a year was presented as a GUIDE, not a requirement. Its not how much you spend, but what military capability you can provide that matters. Spending does not always equal a certain level of military capability. The United States currently only has 3 combat brigades stationed in Europe. That's half of the six brigades Germany has in Europe. France has 10 combat brigades in Europe. So in terms of raw combat capability currently stationed in Europe, its the United States that needs to improve its level and capability. The United States has a 22 Trillion dollar national debt, NOT a deficit that large. Spending on national security is a necessity. Tax cuts for the rich are not a necessity. If you want to address the national debt, you need to raise the top federal tax rate, not cut it.

02. As I explained earlier and provided the link to the battle discussed, Trump was not involved with the decision to attack the para-military force that at the time was assumed to be Syrian, on February 7, 2018. The decision was made by special forces at the Kurdish base who called in air support that was approved by the commander of forces in Syria. It never went any higher than that. Trump and his stooges learned about it later. Trump likely learned about it through the media because he never reads the daily intelligence reports he receives.

03. Its the majority opinion in the intelligence community. They don't like Trump and like his actions here even less.

04. Trump is one of the worst Presidents this country has ever had and he will thankfully be going home on January 20, 2021.

05. Does not matter if it was a joke or not. He said it. The Russians within hours of him saying were hacking into the DNC. Watergate 2016!

06. The "Kim Jung Un" Regimes position is better off within North Korea after the meetings. The meetings were a terrible mistake, an the United States gave up important leverage that it could have used to try and get something out of North Korea.

07. Nobody lied about WMD's. Certain intelligence turned out not to be correct. That does not show that anyone lied.

08. No one at the FBI agrees. The only Democrats that agree are those who think he treated Hillary unfairly. Supposedly Trump fired Comey because of his actions related to Hillary E-mail, something Trump was on record at the time of supporting! So no, that shows it was about one thing and one thing only, obstructing the investigation into his dealings with Russia. That's a obstruction of Justice and just one of the reasons why Trump needs to be impeached and removed from office!

09. FACT, within hours of Trump asking Russia for help, the Russians were hacking into the DNC. Team Trump and the Russians met each other and discussed defeating Hillary Clinton. The Russians stated they were willing to help and Team Trump said they were willing to receive any help they could provide.

10. Yep, but strangely what occurred did not meet the definition that Mueller had for collusion and conspiracy. It definitely meets mine and many other peoples definition. I'm sure it also meets the definition of many people in Congress.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

1) He did that because he did not believe other countries were paying their fair share.

2) Annexation happened under BHO. He took over a tough situation. He did arm the Ukrainians and did kill 200 Russian Mercs in Syria and did impose sanctions on Russia.

3) He did it to show that he has the power and authority to represent the US. He understands negotiation. As Collin Powell, whom I respect a lot, stated. Sometimes you have to eat a lot of ugly when dealing with bad people. Putin is a former KGB assassin. You have to tread lightly but firmly.

4) Brennan is a cook and a partisan hack. And has been laughed at by contemporaries. Google it.

5) He stated that Russians didn't help him win. A lot of it was political posturing but I agree he should have handled it better. You got one.

6) He has kept Kim Jung Un the same. Not sure how he is "stronger" or "weaker" but at least he is trying to do something and S. Korea supports this.

7) He did. You got another one.

8) Subjective. AG disagrees. I can see both sides. Again subjective.

9) It was a joke and he did it on National TV. LOL. Chill. You're not disturbed by the 33k deleted emails, bleached server and 12 smashed blackberries?

10) Russia wanted Chaos in the US and they succeeded. Mueller found no conspiracy or collusion.

Next...

01. Historically, NATO countries efforts at spending and military capability were always highest when the United States made its greatest contributions in terms of basing U.S. forces in Europe. In the past when the United States left things up to Europe alone, we got World War I and then World War II. If Trump is, supposedly, trying to get Europe to do more, he is going about it the wrong way based on history. Reality is that Trump does not understand international relations, history, or NATO itself. He moranically looks at it as some type of business transaction which it is anything but.

02. True, but Barack Obama condemned the annexation as illegal. In contrast, Trump has considered recognizing Crimea as part of Russia. Trump did NOT order the attack on Russian mercenaries in Syria. The 300 Russian mercenaries were killed because they attack a Kurdish base that had U.S. advisors. The U.S. advisors called in air support to defend the Kurdish base. It was only after the attack was over that U.S advisors and Kurdish forces discovered that the attackers had actually been Russian mercenaries. TRUMP NEVER ordered anything. He learned about the whole think like you, through the media or an intelligence report. It was likely the media since Trump rarely reads any of his intelligence reports.

03. No excuse. U.S. Presidents don't show power and authority by meeting in private with an enemy adversary without any cabinet members. That does not show power or authority. It only shows weakness and subservience to a foreign power.

04. Whatever criticism you can muster against John Brennan, it pales in comparison to what can be done against Trump. I'd trust former CIA director John Brennan any day over Trump and his sycophants.

05. He is on the record in asking the Russians to help him though. The Russians did interfere in the election in order to try to help Trump win it.

06. North Korean leaders for decades have asked for a face to face meeting with a U.S. President. Why? It bolsters the North Korean leader in the eyes of their people, and gives them a stage on the world scene with the most powerful country. It helps bolster the image of the North Korean leader and home and abroad. So Trump gave them this HUGE diplomatic gift and got nothing in return. In the meantime, North Korean military and WMD programs continue in development.

07. What else is he lying about.

08. I'd say its cut and dry. When was the last time a President fired a sitting FBI director that was investigating the President from criminal conduct?

09. Hillary Clinton is not running for President. Donald Trump is and asked the Russians to get him information. They broke into the DNC for him. Just like in 1972. Except this time, its not simply another political party, its a foreign enemy of the United States. Its worse than Watergate.

10. This point had nothing to do with conspiracy or collusion. Its all about Russia and why they interfered in the 2016 elections to help TRUMP.

Not finding evidence of what Mueller DEFINES as conspiracy and collusion does not mean it did not happen. I would define many of the dealings as both conspiracy and collusion. Hell, I define meeting alone with Putin for 3 hours in Helskini Finland to be conspiracy and collusion.

1) Subjective. He wants NATO to pay its "fair share". What that is or means is up to experts and that is neither you nor I but that is why he threatened to exit.

2) Link? Not as I understand it. Obama said words and did nothing. Trump DID arm the Ukrainians. And it was Pompeo who approved the strike, Trump's appointee.

3) Subjective. How world leaders negotiate is up to them. You don't like it? Vote them out. What he did was not illegal and within his pervue.

4) Subjective. We can argue about this for hours.

5) He is on the record in front of millions and no one cared because everyone thought he would lose. He wasn't hiding anything.

6) So from that "gift" what exactly happened? How are we worse off? How are the NK people worse off?

7) IDK...all politicians lie. Bush lied. Clinton lied. Reagan lied.

8) He fired Comey for incompetence and many agree. In fact many Democrats agreed.

9) At the time they were both running for POTUS. What are you talking about?

10) Who was the POTUS in 2016? It was BHO. Why didn't he stop them? Or say anything about it? Because he like everyone else thought HRC would win.

Your posts smell like sour grapes. You need to take a class in political science and another in economics.

01. Its not subjective its historical fact. NATO forces fielded its largest forces in Europe in terms of numbers combat brigades, divisions, main battle tanks, artillery, combat aircraft, when U.S. deployments in Europe were at their peak. That and the case of World War I and World War II, proves that the only way to get Europeans to responsibly maintain military capability is having the United States lead the way on the continent. The United States withdrawing from NATO would just take Europe back to the 1930s when security was neglected.

02. The President is not involved in ordering sudden battlefield strikes in Syria, Afghanistan, or Iraq. Soldiers on the ground don't have to ask for permission to defend themselves. The attack was launched by the para-military group on a Kurdish headquarters near the town of Khasham Syria at 10 PM Syrian time. The fighting lasted 4 hours. "According to the U.S. military, the presence of U.S. special operations personnel in the targeted base elicited a response by U.S.-led coalition aircraft, including AC-130 gunships, F-15E Strike Eagle fighter jets, unmanned aerial vehicles (MQ-9), AH-64 Apache attack helicopters, B-52s, and F-22s.[10][8][9] Nearby U.S. Marine artillery batteries, including a High Mobility Artillery Rocket System, shelled Syrian forces as well.[9] " This was a sudden rapidly escalating situation. Approval for the strike came from the U.S. military in order to protect the lives of U.S. military personal at the base. The response to the attack came within minutes. The United States always has aircraft flying through Syrian Air Space 24/7 ready to respond to an emergency. This was an emergency. No one in the chain of command outside of the region was contacted for the strike. THERE WAS NO NEED NOR ENOUGH TIME.
Battle of Khasham - Wikipedia

03. It was unusual, bizarre and raised deep concerns among members of the intelligence community. John Brennan stated that Trumps behavior in Helsinki amounted to Treason!

04. Yep, and you would be on the losing side for hours trying to defend the indefensible with regards to Trump.

05. Whatever, the fact remains, he asked the Russians for help, and they broke into the DNC for him. Watergate 1972 all over again except this time a foreign enemy of the United States is involved which makes it WORSE!

06. The world and the North Korean people are worse off because the gift strengthened Kims position in North Korea. You could have used the meeting to leverage getting U.S. inspectors on the ground in North Korea to start dismantling the Nuclear program. Kim gets to meet the President of the United States on the world stage, but in return we get something as well. That didn't happen! Wasted opportunity! The North Koreans have been trying to set up such a meeting for decades and Trump gave it to them for NOTHING!

07. They did not lie about anything relevant to national or international policy.

08. No one at the FBI agrees. The only Democrats that agree are those who think he treated Hillary unfairly. Supposedly Trump fired Comey because of his actions related to Hillary E-mail, something Trump was on record at the time of supporting! So no, that shows it was about one thing and one thing only, obstructing the investigation into his dealings with Russia. That's a obstruction of Justice and just one of the reasons why Trump needs to be impeached and removed from office!

09. Except Trumps actions led to the break in of the DNC by the Russians in order to get info to help Trump, which Trump was willing to receive. Watergate 1972 all over again.

10. Again, there were meetings between Russian officials and Trump campaign officials. They both talked about defeating Hillary Clinton. Trumps team was ready to receive any info the Russians had. The Russians actively went about getting it for team Trump.

1) Again, he wants them to pay their "fair share". We have a $22TRN deficit. Neither you nor I are security experts. Stop trying to act like one.

2) He did kill Russian Mercs, he did arm the Ukrainians (you keep dodging that one) and he did impose sanctions on Russia. We also need Russia to fight the growing radical Islam factions in the ME and Europe. France and the UK certainly aren't doing it.

3) That was his opinion. The people elected Trump and he does as he sees fit. If you don't like it then vote him out. It was not illegal and you know Brennan is biased. BHO sat idly by as Russia interfered in our 2016 election and instead of stopping them he spied on Trump? Odd.

4) In your smug opinion. You have lost every debate to me thus far. But whatever helps you sleep at night.

5) He made a joke on national TV in front of millions and no one cared until he actually won. You know this is true. You're losing badly.

6) NK has been the same since the war that split the countries. Subjective if the people are worse or better. Their situation is awful. South Korea approved these meetings. Trump did his best. I thought it was a waste of time too. But I don't see NK as better off.

7) Really? Benghazi? Fast & Furious? WMDs in Iraq? Again you're losing badly.

8) Again you broad brush. That is simply not true. Many cared. Many still care. Watch the news. Not just CNN and MSNBC.

9) What actions? His joke? If HRC had nothing to hide why the bleaching and destruction of blackberries? Trump openly stated, please hack her emails as a joke. NO ONE cared. Including you. Until she lost. Just admit that. You are losing very badly. Again.

10) They did? I must have missed that in the Mueller report. No conspiracy and no collusion. The only gray area is obstruction.

You lost yet another debate to me. But you keep trying. How long to sing that song?

01. NATO has never had a spending requirement for any countries in the Alliance. During Obama's second term, spending 2% of GDP on defense a year was presented as a GUIDE, not a requirement. Its not how much you spend, but what military capability you can provide that matters. Spending does not always equal a certain level of military capability. The United States currently only has 3 combat brigades stationed in Europe. That's half of the six brigades Germany has in Europe. France has 10 combat brigades in Europe. So in terms of raw combat capability currently stationed in Europe, its the United States that needs to improve its level and capability. The United States has a 22 Trillion dollar national debt, NOT a deficit that large. Spending on national security is a necessity. Tax cuts for the rich are not a necessity. If you want to address the national debt, you need to raise the top federal tax rate, not cut it.

02. As I explained earlier and provided the link to the battle discussed, Trump was not involved with the decision to attack the para-military force that at the time was assumed to be Syrian, on February 7, 2018. The decision was made by special forces at the Kurdish base who called in air support that was approved by the commander of forces in Syria. It never went any higher than that. Trump and his stooges learned about it later. Trump likely learned about it through the media because he never reads the daily intelligence reports he receives.

03. Its the majority opinion in the intelligence community. They don't like Trump and like his actions here even less.

04. Trump is one of the worst Presidents this country has ever had and he will thankfully be going home on January 20, 2021.

05. Does not matter if it was a joke or not. He said it. The Russians within hours of him saying were hacking into the DNC. Watergate 2016!

06. The "Kim Jung Un" Regimes position is better off within North Korea after the meetings. The meetings were a terrible mistake, an the United States gave up important leverage that it could have used to try and get something out of North Korea.

07. Nobody lied about WMD's. Certain intelligence turned out not to be correct. That does not show that anyone lied.

08. No one at the FBI agrees. The only Democrats that agree are those who think he treated Hillary unfairly. Supposedly Trump fired Comey because of his actions related to Hillary E-mail, something Trump was on record at the time of supporting! So no, that shows it was about one thing and one thing only, obstructing the investigation into his dealings with Russia. That's a obstruction of Justice and just one of the reasons why Trump needs to be impeached and removed from office!

09. FACT, within hours of Trump asking Russia for help, the Russians were hacking into the DNC. Team Trump and the Russians met each other and discussed defeating Hillary Clinton. The Russians stated they were willing to help and Team Trump said they were willing to receive any help they could provide.

10. Yep, but strangely what occurred did not meet the definition that Mueller had for collusion and conspiracy. It definitely meets mine and many other peoples definition. I'm sure it also meets the definition of many people in Congress.

1) We have the highest GDP and the Euro countries are most threatened why are we paying more? As I said neither of us are experts but you keep beating that dead horse. NATO was set up to defend the world vs. Communism and the Soviet Union. The SU is gone. Maybe they need to reconsider the fundings? Did I say deficit? I meant we have a deficit and $22Trn in debt. So we have to make cuts.

2) You keep avoiding the line where he armed the Ukrainians and Obama did not.

3) How do you know this? You don't. You have no idea. That is all conjecture.

4) My clients tell me Trump is the best president they have seen in their lifetimes. Opinions vary.

5) He said it on LIVE TV while he was running. He was not in power and no one thought he would win so no one cared. Any citizen can say please hack some emails. He was not POTUS at the time. You're not making any sense.

6) You have failed to prove this. NK remains a backward asshole nation. Not any better or worse post Trump negotiations.

7) People disagree. They state that Bush and Cheney lied. No WMDs in Iraq. Company Cheney had equity in got a big contract...Haliburton?

8) More broad brush. NOBODY?!?!? I know some in the FBI who think Trump is great and HRC was a crook. You cannot speak for 1000s of agents.

9) Trump was a candidate with no power. He did it on live TV LOL. Everyone saw it and no one cared. Until he won. Admit it.

10) Yours? Who cares? That is subjective. Mueller and the AG are the experts not you. What do you do for work to make you an expert? Plus you're super biased.

 

[Esmeralda]

What has Biden done that is 'morally indefensible'? And how is he not dignified?

He is starting a Huggathon to boost his campaign. You can hug him (immorally or morally) for just $100 for ten seconds. And pay an extra $50 for him to smell your hair.

(Of course, I am kidding. But imagine having "President Huggable" in the Oval Office?)

Imagine having "president disgusting" in the White House. Oh, you don't have to...we already have that.

 

[Blackrook]

He has far too much baggage.

If you mean Trump, that's correct. Trump is a Russian/Putin ally, a traitor to his country. Lets remove this Russian mole from the White House as soon as possible.

YOU ARE DIRTY, LOW-DOWN FUCKING LIAR. THERE IS NO TRUMP/RUSSIA COLLUSION. The Mueller report proves it. Are you calling Mueller a liar?

 

[U2Edge]

He has far too much baggage.

If you mean Trump, that's correct. Trump is a Russian/Putin ally, a traitor to his country. Lets remove this Russian mole from the White House as soon as possible.

YOU ARE DIRTY, LOW-DOWN FUCKING LIAR. THERE IS NO TRUMP/RUSSIA COLLUSION. The Mueller report proves it. Are you calling Mueller a liar?

No, its a difference of interpretation of the evidence. Many in congress may decide they have a different interpretation of the evidence as well, one that could lead to Trumps impeachment and removal from office. Congress, not Mueller will ultimately decide if Trump will get to complete the remainder of his term. The American people ultimately are going to remove this unpopular President with an on the job average approval rating of 40% to date. That average approval rating is the lowest of ANY President in history!

 

[NoVote]

You tard fucks should be planning on who you'll make your fall guy in 2024, cause Trump has this one sewed up.

 

[PredFan]

Biden won’t be the Democrat Nominee. He has NO chance.

 

[JusticeHammer]

Biden will get all the moderates, a good amount of both Conservative and Liberals.

He won't get the extremist vote - neither right or left.

The moderates are the extremists. They're just okay with all of the bad, anti-liberty legislation coming out of both sides of the fake two party system.

Either that OR....

Perhaps extremists are extremists...

And in the case of right wing extremists, they suffer from some rather strong and apparent mental illness.

Demoncraps are the ones with mental problems.