Biden = War in the Middle East



Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.
You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

There is no dispute.
The Israelis have no jurisdiction and there are no legal claims involved.
Israel simply have systematically been stealing millions of Arab homes for over 70 years, and since they can't just murder the Arabs like they used to, they now are using kangaroo courts as a smoke screen.

It was not a small disturbance at the Temple Mount, there was an attempt at intimidation through murder, at the most sacred and important place to all Palestinians.
And by the way, no one has any clue in the least where either Temple of Solomon may ever have been, but very unlikely anywhere near the Temple Mount.

The Israelis can have peace any time, just by following the law, get out of Palestinian territory, and return all the homes stolen from Moslems inside Israel.
(There are more than 1 million Moslem homes stolen inside Israel.)

It is ONLY Israel that is in violation of the law and constantly committing crimes.
You think Israel can have peace by giving things to Moslems? How has that worked out in the past, Rigby?

Israel has NEVER given anything to the Muslims. NEVER.
How about the 1.9mil living in Israel, which is the safest place in the Middle East for a Muslim woman or a Muslim gay man? Are you ever factual?
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.
There were no attacks by Israel on the Temple Mount-------Libels have been preceding muzzie attacks for the past 1400 years------the houses under question are SIMPLY those STOLEN
by Jordan from the Jewish neighborhood of East Jerusalem in 1948-----and STILL LEGALLY
owned by jews. For the idiot justifications for slitting throats, enslaving children, raping and
PILLAGIING------read the koran and learn a bit of shariah law......and history. The muzzies
have been the VIKINGS of the LEVANT-------muhummad, a veritable THULSA DOOM

Wrong.
We all saw the video of the Israeli attacks on the Temple Mount, with innocent Palestinians beaten, gassed and shot.
Israelis should not even be on the Temple Mount.
It is illegal for Israelis to be there.

And it is a lie to claim there is any land legally owned by Jews in the West Bank.
There was some land originally owned by Jews, but only in a tiny part of the Old Quarter, and that was forfeit when these Jews violated international laws and took up arms against the UN partition in 1948.
They were guilty of murder and other crimes, so we lucky to just be allowed to leave instead of being executed.

Here is the tiny Old Quarter.

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This is a map of all of Jerusalem, to show how little the Old Quarter is in comparison to the mostly Moslem Jerusalem.

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The Jewish Old Quarter is a tiny part of the Old Quarter in general, which is a tiny part of Jerusalem in general.
And all of Jerusalem is outside of Israel.
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.
You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.
well----they had to demonstrate to IRAN that they appreciate the gifts

Lies.
For these rockets to be Iranian, they would have to be smuggled into Egypt and then down through tunnels across the border.
Since Egypt has wiped out a huge buffer zone at the border, that is very unlikely.
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)
Trump's actions brought turmoil to the Middle East. Trump cut 'em off and they hadn't "misbehaved"
whatever the hell that means. It was an explosion waiting to happen. You are an expert on the Middle East, yes?
What Trump action brought turmoil to the Middle East and why did it take YEARS for the turmoil to begin? Trump cut the Palestinians off from the money we send them so they won't misbehave...money they take from liberals like Obama and Biden and spend on terror attacks on Israel. They're right back to the terror attacks because they KNOW that Biden will never cut off their aid!

remember the FLOTILLAS-----concerned americans rejoiced that palestinian children
were FINALLY getting all the crayons they needed. I would be interested in the costs
incurred by the jettisoning of even ONE missile into Israel-----my sense is that even one
would equal a ten year supply of crayolas. The latest boast in the name of allah----has been
"we ain't even put a dent into our endless supply of muzzie baby killing bombs---
AHUMDIALLAH

Wrong.
The Palestinians do not have missiles, but unguided ballistic rockets instead, that cost only about $100 or less.
And since the purpose of the rockets is to stop murders and thefts by Israel, they are of much higher priority.
try again----you need the ENGLISH REMEDICATION ROOM----I will help before you get there---
an "unguided ballistic """ROCKET""" " is a missile. unless it is really a ROCKET which it
isn't. -----did you graduate sixth grade? Hundreds of thousands of such "rockets"---
launched from LONG RANGE FARSI SPEAKING SLINGSHOTS------is a whole lot of crayolas.
As to stealing houses-----ROFLMAO------you must be thinking of the orginator of genocide---
what happened to the homes and prayer houses and sacred sites of the
christians and jews and-----zoroastrians of most of the LEVANT?-----and south east Asia----
etc etc etc
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.
I believe Trump was referring to the 370 million we give to the UN fund that provides assistance to Palestinian "refugees". THAT is totally optional.

Good point. I do not know what aid Trump cut.
But clearly it has to be wrong to give $5 billion a year to Israel for weapons and nothing to Palestinian natives who need and deserve out assistance now that we have allowed their enemies to surround and enslave them.
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.
I believe Trump was referring to the 370 million we give to the UN fund that provides assistance to Palestinian "refugees". THAT is totally optional.

Good point. I do not know what aid Trump cut.
But clearly it has to be wrong to give $5 billion a year to Israel for weapons and nothing to Palestinian natives who need and deserve out assistance now that we have allowed their enemies to surround and enslave them.
I am going to have you banned. I have told you repeatedly it is not aid but a military contract.
 
there was once a very nice guy who became MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY----nice guy---
well intentioned---smart. ----The poor guy---thru no fault of his own----- was born
MELANINATED----ie his melanocytes produced lots more melanin than do mine.
When he became Mayor people were really happy------but his fellow BIG TIME
MELANIN producers took it personally and treated it as a PASS to engage in
riots. They destroyed his political career------RIP---DAVID DINKINS.

Well what do you know, something we agree on, that David Dinkins did a good job.

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Mayoralty​

Dinkins entered office in January 1990 pledging racial healing, and famously referred to New York City's demographic diversity as a "gorgeous mosaic".[22] The crime rate in New York City had risen alarmingly during the 1980s, and the rate of homicide in particular reached an all-time high of 2,245 cases during 1990, the first year of the Dinkins administration.[23] The rates of most crimes, including all categories of violent crime, then declined during the remainder of his four-year term. That ended a 30-year upward spiral and initiated a trend of falling rates that continued and accelerated beyond his term.[24][25] However, the high absolute levels, the peak early in his administration, and the only modest decline subsequently (homicide down 12% from 1990 to 1993)[26] resulted in Dinkins' suffering politically from the perception that crime remained out of control on his watch.[27][28] Dinkins in fact initiated a hiring program that expanded the police department nearly 25%. The New York Times reported, "He obtained the State Legislature's permission to dedicate a tax to hire thousands of police officers, and he fought to preserve a portion of that anticrime money to keep schools open into the evening, an award-winning initiative that kept tens of thousands of teenagers off the street."[28][29]

During his final days in office, Dinkins made last-minute negotiations with the sanitation workers, presumably to preserve the public status of garbage removal. Giuliani, who had defeated Dinkins in the 1993 mayoral race, blamed Dinkins for a "cheap political trick" when Dinkins planned the resignation of Victor Gotbaum, Dinkins' appointee on the board of education, thus guaranteeing Gotbaum's replacement six months in office.[30] Dinkins also signed a last-minute 99-year lease with the USTA National Tennis Center. By negotiating a fee for New York City based on the event's gross income, the Dinkins administration made a deal with the US Open that brings more economic benefit to the City of New York each year than the New York Yankees, New York Mets, New York Knicks, and New York Rangers combined.[2] The city's revenue-producing events Fashion Week, Restaurant Week, and Broadway on Broadway were all created under Dinkins.[31]

Dinkins's term was marked by polarizing events such as the Family Red Apple boycott, a boycott of a Korean-owned grocery in Flatbush, Brooklyn, and the 1991 Crown Heights riot. When Lemrick Nelson was acquitted of murdering Yankel Rosenbaum during the Crown Heights riots, Dinkins said, "I have no doubt that in this case the criminal-justice system has operated fairly and openly."[32] Later he wrote in his memoirs, "I continue to fail to understand that verdict."[2]

In 1991, when "Iraqi Scud missiles were falling" in Israel[33] and the Mayor's press secretary said "security would be tight and gas masks would be provided for the contingent",[34] Mayor Dinkins visited Israel as a sign of support.[35]

The Dinkins administration was adversely affected by a declining economy, which led to lower tax revenue and budget shortfalls.[36] Nevertheless, Dinkins' mayoralty was marked by a number of significant achievements.[36] New York City's crime rate, including the murder rate, declined in Dinkins' final years in office; Dinkins persuaded the state legislature to dedicate certain tax revenue for crime control (including an increase in the size of the New York Police Department along with after-school programs for teenagers), and he hired Raymond W. Kelly as police commissioner.[36] Times Square was cleaned up during Dinkins' term, and he persuaded The Walt Disney Company to rehabilitate the old New Amsterdam Theatre on 42nd Street.[36] The city negotiated a 99-year lease of city park space to the United States Tennis Association to create the USTA National Tennis Center (which Mayor Michael Bloomberg later called "the only good athletic sports stadium deal, not just in New York, but in the country").[36] Dinkins continued an initiative begun by Ed Koch to rehabilitate dilapidated housing in northern Harlem, the South Bronx, and Brooklyn; overall more housing was rehabilitated in Dinkins' only term than Giuliani's two terms.[36] With the support of Governor Mario Cuomo, the city invested in supportive housing for mentally ill homeless people and achieved a decrease in the size of the city's homeless shelter population to its lowest point in two decades.[28]

1993 election​

Main article: 1993 New York City mayoral election
In 1993, Dinkins lost to Republican Rudy Giuliani in a rematch of the 1989 election. Dinkins earned 48.3 percent of the vote, down from 51 percent in 1989.[37] One factor in his loss was his perceived indifference to the plight of the Jewish community during the Crown Heights riot.[38] Another was a strong turnout for Giuliani in Staten Island; a referendum on Staten Island's secession from New York was placed on the ballot that year by Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo and the New York State Legislature.[2]
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Dinkins did an awful job as Mayor! The city was unsafe to live in before Rudy G took over. I know because I was a frequent visitor back then.

Wrong.
Rudi started the illegal practice of "Stop and Frisk" which was totally criminal and racist.
Making a place "safe" for visitors, by terrorizing the majority, is awful.
Rudi caused the largest % of incarceration in the whole world.
It was wholesale fascism on a scale of Nazi concentration camps.
In particular, illegal War on Drug laws were used the most.
And it was Rudi's fascism that resulted on dozens of murder like Amadou Diallo.
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.
You fire thousands of rockets over a small disturbance at the Temple Mount and a handful of home confiscations that have been in dispute for decades? Who does that? Yet you claim the Palestinians HAD to fire them? That's a crock. They fired them because they wanted to fire them and were looking for an excuse to do so.

Israel needed to provoke violence to justify their latest land grab. Nothing has changed in 70 years.
Justify it to whom?

Israel exist entirely due to its PR campaign.
First the Zionists played off the Holocaust, ignoring the fact Zionist Jews were at fault for being traitors in WWI.
Now Israel is lying and pretending to be victims of the unarmed Palestinians, when in reality the Zionists are the only perpetraitors.
And yet we still give Israel over $5 billion a year.
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts

I know there are those in the Biden admin that want war. Perhaps in the middle east since stocks love higher crude oil prices.
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.
I believe Trump was referring to the 370 million we give to the UN fund that provides assistance to Palestinian "refugees". THAT is totally optional.

And how does that compare with 5 billion a year for 8 million Jews?
Israel is our ally in the Middle East. Palestine is not. Duh?

That's not true.. Saudi Arabia has been a US ally since the late 1930s and we don't give them foreign aid for 70 years.. Further, the state never straffed the USS Liberty.

Israel has betrayed the US many times.. Eisenhower, Reagan, LBJ... They betrayed them all more than once.
chapter and verse----people educated in the islamo-nazi system are more likely to be
able to "quote" the islamo nazi propaganda than the koran. . Interestingly----the
least likely to know a word of arabic-----are the IRANIANS-----and I have encountered
pakistanis who thought I know arabic. It is clear that they are capable of MEMORIZING
but the islamo nazi propaganda is more important than the koran
 
Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.
Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.
With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

I disagree.
There has never been a case of Moslem conducting aggressive terror in all of history, that I am aware of.
Do imperialist countries deserve having planes hijacked?
Yes of course they do.
Look at what Truman did to the Palestinians, in total violation of international law and 2 treaties of the WWI allies.
Look at the US lies about WMD in Iraq.
The invasion of Afghanistan was also completely illegal, immoral, and murder.
We were criminal in our actions against Qaddafi, Mosei, Assad, Saddam, etc.
Out Mideast murder toll in the last 20 years is well over a million innocent people.

you could write the Khutbah Jumaats that have galvanized the murder of hundreds
of millions and COUNTING

Wrong.
Muslims do not murder.
Unlike Judaism, murder or anyone is against their religion.
Judaism exalts and rewards murder, like the massacre of Canaanite women and children by Joshua at Jericho.
 
there was once a very nice guy who became MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY----nice guy---
well intentioned---smart. ----The poor guy---thru no fault of his own----- was born
MELANINATED----ie his melanocytes produced lots more melanin than do mine.
When he became Mayor people were really happy------but his fellow BIG TIME
MELANIN producers took it personally and treated it as a PASS to engage in
riots. They destroyed his political career------RIP---DAVID DINKINS.

Well what do you know, something we agree on, that David Dinkins did a good job.

{...

Mayoralty​

Dinkins entered office in January 1990 pledging racial healing, and famously referred to New York City's demographic diversity as a "gorgeous mosaic".[22] The crime rate in New York City had risen alarmingly during the 1980s, and the rate of homicide in particular reached an all-time high of 2,245 cases during 1990, the first year of the Dinkins administration.[23] The rates of most crimes, including all categories of violent crime, then declined during the remainder of his four-year term. That ended a 30-year upward spiral and initiated a trend of falling rates that continued and accelerated beyond his term.[24][25] However, the high absolute levels, the peak early in his administration, and the only modest decline subsequently (homicide down 12% from 1990 to 1993)[26] resulted in Dinkins' suffering politically from the perception that crime remained out of control on his watch.[27][28] Dinkins in fact initiated a hiring program that expanded the police department nearly 25%. The New York Times reported, "He obtained the State Legislature's permission to dedicate a tax to hire thousands of police officers, and he fought to preserve a portion of that anticrime money to keep schools open into the evening, an award-winning initiative that kept tens of thousands of teenagers off the street."[28][29]

During his final days in office, Dinkins made last-minute negotiations with the sanitation workers, presumably to preserve the public status of garbage removal. Giuliani, who had defeated Dinkins in the 1993 mayoral race, blamed Dinkins for a "cheap political trick" when Dinkins planned the resignation of Victor Gotbaum, Dinkins' appointee on the board of education, thus guaranteeing Gotbaum's replacement six months in office.[30] Dinkins also signed a last-minute 99-year lease with the USTA National Tennis Center. By negotiating a fee for New York City based on the event's gross income, the Dinkins administration made a deal with the US Open that brings more economic benefit to the City of New York each year than the New York Yankees, New York Mets, New York Knicks, and New York Rangers combined.[2] The city's revenue-producing events Fashion Week, Restaurant Week, and Broadway on Broadway were all created under Dinkins.[31]

Dinkins's term was marked by polarizing events such as the Family Red Apple boycott, a boycott of a Korean-owned grocery in Flatbush, Brooklyn, and the 1991 Crown Heights riot. When Lemrick Nelson was acquitted of murdering Yankel Rosenbaum during the Crown Heights riots, Dinkins said, "I have no doubt that in this case the criminal-justice system has operated fairly and openly."[32] Later he wrote in his memoirs, "I continue to fail to understand that verdict."[2]

In 1991, when "Iraqi Scud missiles were falling" in Israel[33] and the Mayor's press secretary said "security would be tight and gas masks would be provided for the contingent",[34] Mayor Dinkins visited Israel as a sign of support.[35]

The Dinkins administration was adversely affected by a declining economy, which led to lower tax revenue and budget shortfalls.[36] Nevertheless, Dinkins' mayoralty was marked by a number of significant achievements.[36] New York City's crime rate, including the murder rate, declined in Dinkins' final years in office; Dinkins persuaded the state legislature to dedicate certain tax revenue for crime control (including an increase in the size of the New York Police Department along with after-school programs for teenagers), and he hired Raymond W. Kelly as police commissioner.[36] Times Square was cleaned up during Dinkins' term, and he persuaded The Walt Disney Company to rehabilitate the old New Amsterdam Theatre on 42nd Street.[36] The city negotiated a 99-year lease of city park space to the United States Tennis Association to create the USTA National Tennis Center (which Mayor Michael Bloomberg later called "the only good athletic sports stadium deal, not just in New York, but in the country").[36] Dinkins continued an initiative begun by Ed Koch to rehabilitate dilapidated housing in northern Harlem, the South Bronx, and Brooklyn; overall more housing was rehabilitated in Dinkins' only term than Giuliani's two terms.[36] With the support of Governor Mario Cuomo, the city invested in supportive housing for mentally ill homeless people and achieved a decrease in the size of the city's homeless shelter population to its lowest point in two decades.[28]

1993 election​

Main article: 1993 New York City mayoral election
In 1993, Dinkins lost to Republican Rudy Giuliani in a rematch of the 1989 election. Dinkins earned 48.3 percent of the vote, down from 51 percent in 1989.[37] One factor in his loss was his perceived indifference to the plight of the Jewish community during the Crown Heights riot.[38] Another was a strong turnout for Giuliani in Staten Island; a referendum on Staten Island's secession from New York was placed on the ballot that year by Democratic Governor Mario Cuomo and the New York State Legislature.[2]
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Dinkins did an awful job as Mayor! The city was unsafe to live in before Rudy G took over. I know because I was a frequent visitor back then.

Wrong.
Rudi started the illegal practice of "Stop and Frisk" which was totally criminal and racist.
Making a place "safe" for visitors, by terrorizing the majority, is awful.
Rudi caused the largest % of incarceration in the whole world.
It was wholesale fascism on a scale of Nazi concentration camps.
In particular, illegal War on Drug laws were used the most.
And it was Rudi's fascism that resulted on dozens of murder like Amadou Diallo.
not really----the FACT is that th...udy is CERTAINLY a law and order type of guy
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)
Trump's actions brought turmoil to the Middle East. Trump cut 'em off and they hadn't "misbehaved"
whatever the hell that means. It was an explosion waiting to happen. You are an expert on the Middle East, yes?
What Trump action brought turmoil to the Middle East and why did it take YEARS for the turmoil to begin? Trump cut the Palestinians off from the money we send them so they won't misbehave...money they take from liberals like Obama and Biden and spend on terror attacks on Israel. They're right back to the terror attacks because they KNOW that Biden will never cut off their aid!

remember the FLOTILLAS-----concerned americans rejoiced that palestinian children
were FINALLY getting all the crayons they needed. I would be interested in the costs
incurred by the jettisoning of even ONE missile into Israel-----my sense is that even one
would equal a ten year supply of crayolas. The latest boast in the name of allah----has been
"we ain't even put a dent into our endless supply of muzzie baby killing bombs---
AHUMDIALLAH

Wrong.
The Palestinians do not have missiles, but unguided ballistic rockets instead, that cost only about $100 or less.
And since the purpose of the rockets is to stop murders and thefts by Israel, they are of much higher priority.
try again----you need the ENGLISH REMEDICATION ROOM----I will help before you get there---
an "unguided ballistic """ROCKET""" " is a missile. unless it is really a ROCKET which it
isn't. -----did you graduate sixth grade? Hundreds of thousands of such "rockets"---
launched from LONG RANGE FARSI SPEAKING SLINGSHOTS------is a whole lot of crayolas.
As to stealing houses-----ROFLMAO------you must be thinking of the orginator of genocide---
what happened to the homes and prayer houses and sacred sites of the
christians and jews and-----zoroastrians of most of the LEVANT?-----and south east Asia----
etc etc etc

Wrong.
In common English, a thrown rock can be called a missile, but not in military terminology.
Then a missile has to be guided.

{... In military terminology, a missile, also known as a guided missile or guided rocket, is a guided airborne ranged weapon capable of self-propelled flight usually by a jet engine or rocket motor. Missiles have four system components: targeting/guidance system, flight system, engine and warhead. ...}

Rockets are unguided, missiles are guided.

The originator of genocide it the ancient Hebrew.
Such as their massacre of the Canaanites at Jericho.

Moslem have never harmed innocent Jews, Christians or Zoroastrians, anywhere.
That would be against Islam.
Jews and Christians however, constantly brag about genocide and murder of all other religions.
 
Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.
Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.
With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

I disagree.
There has never been a case of Moslem conducting aggressive terror in all of history, that I am aware of.
Do imperialist countries deserve having planes hijacked?
Yes of course they do.
Look at what Truman did to the Palestinians, in total violation of international law and 2 treaties of the WWI allies.
Look at the US lies about WMD in Iraq.
The invasion of Afghanistan was also completely illegal, immoral, and murder.
We were criminal in our actions against Qaddafi, Mosei, Assad, Saddam, etc.
Out Mideast murder toll in the last 20 years is well over a million innocent people.

you could write the Khutbah Jumaats that have galvanized the murder of hundreds
of millions and COUNTING

Wrong.
Muslims do not murder.
Unlike Judaism, murder or anyone is against their religion.
Judaism exalts and rewards murder, like the massacre of Canaanite women and children by Joshua at Jericho.
according to shariah law-----it is TRUE that muslims "do not murder" The killing of a
non muslim by a muslim is not DEFINED as "murder" in islamic law. -----nor is the rape
of a non muslim woman defined as "rape" A simple example------the "killers" (not murderers)
of Daniel Pearl were careful to VIDEO TAPE the event in order to PROVE their action legal
in islamic law. Daniel said "I AM A JEW"-----and then they slit his throat. At the time---
pakistan HAD TO CONVENE a NON SHARIAH court in order to convict the murderers----since
what they did was not a crime in SHARIAH LAW. The murderers were convicted and they
were sentenced to be executed-----now they are FREE AS BIRDS----and rich and happy as
MUSLIM HEROES in Pakistan-------shariah has prevailed
 
Wasn't Jarod supposed to fix this issue?

What happened?
Joe Biden happened! Duh?
So, Biden was the negotiator for ME "peace" plan?
No, Joe Biden is the "enabler" of Iran...the number one sponsor of world terror! Biden flushed all the good work of Jared Kushner right down the toilet with his Middle East foreign policy. We're right back to the failed policies of the Obama years.
Of course he is, Q NUT.
So, Kushner and the orange, retard "negotiated" this "peace" deal.
Biden gets in and they break their own deal?
It takes a special kind of stupid to, let alone think it but to regurgitate it.
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)

First of all, the Palestinians did NOT "misbehave" like you claim, since the rockets had to be fired in retaliation for the Zionist attacks and murders on the Temple Mount and home confiscations.
Second is that we only give the Palestinians $200 million a year, not even enough to cover the cost of garbage collection, compared to the $5 billion we give Israel annually. And that $200 million is required by treaties going back to Reagan, Carter, Bush and Clinton.
You have to give it by US law.
It is not optional.
I believe Trump was referring to the 370 million we give to the UN fund that provides assistance to Palestinian "refugees". THAT is totally optional.

Good point. I do not know what aid Trump cut.
But clearly it has to be wrong to give $5 billion a year to Israel for weapons and nothing to Palestinian natives who need and deserve out assistance now that we have allowed their enemies to surround and enslave them.
I am going to have you banned. I have told you repeatedly it is not aid but a military contract.

Wrong.
Funding is fungible.
It is aid, and even though it means they will be buying US made weapons with it, it is still coming from US taxpayer dollars, and is fungible.
Meaning that every dollar Israel gets from the US for the purchase of weapons, the more Israeli tax dollars can be spent on luxuries.
It is actually worse than that even, because the US also guarantees even larger amounts in interest free loans.
It most certainly IS US aid, and most certainly does increase the standard of living in Israel way above that of the US average.
To claim otherwise would be lying.
And on top of that, this money is used to blatantly harm innocent Palestinians, in violation of US and international law.
 
Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.
Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.
With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

I disagree.
There has never been a case of Moslem conducting aggressive terror in all of history, that I am aware of.
Do imperialist countries deserve having planes hijacked?
Yes of course they do.
Look at what Truman did to the Palestinians, in total violation of international law and 2 treaties of the WWI allies.
Look at the US lies about WMD in Iraq.
The invasion of Afghanistan was also completely illegal, immoral, and murder.
We were criminal in our actions against Qaddafi, Mosei, Assad, Saddam, etc.
Out Mideast murder toll in the last 20 years is well over a million innocent people.

you could write the Khutbah Jumaats that have galvanized the murder of hundreds
of millions and COUNTING

Wrong.
Muslims do not murder.
Unlike Judaism, murder or anyone is against their religion.
Judaism exalts and rewards murder, like the massacre of Canaanite women and children by Joshua at Jericho.
according to shariah law-----it is TRUE that muslims "do not murder" The killing of a
non muslim by a muslim is not DEFINED as "murder" in islamic law. -----nor is the rape
of a non muslim woman defined as "rape" A simple example------the "killers" (not murderers)
of Daniel Pearl were careful to VIDEO TAPE the event in order to PROVE their action legal
in islamic law. Daniel said "I AM A JEW"-----and then they slit his throat. At the time---
pakistan HAD TO CONVENE a NON SHARIAH court in order to convict the murderers----since
what they did was not a crime in SHARIAH LAW. The murderers were convicted and they
were sentenced to be executed-----now they are FREE AS BIRDS----and rich and happy as
MUSLIM HEROES in Pakistan-------shariah has prevailed

Liar.
The Quran is clear that Judaism and Christianity are valid ways to heaven and that Jews and Christians can not legally be harmed.
And the proof is that Jews and Christians have never been harmed when they lived in the Mideast, unlike the way Moslems have been murdered by Christians in the Inquisitions and by Zionists in Palestine.
 
Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.
Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.
With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

For God's sake Bibi has been threatening Iran since 1996.
Oh gee----poor ayatoilets. I missed the "bibi" threats-----what did "bibi" say to the
ayatoilet that galvanized his murderous machinations in Syria, Afghanistan, Lebanon,
Yemen------and----well ---even Teheran. For those interested----talk to people who
have fled Iran------since the 1960s -----Interestingly the 1960s sorta precedes the
ayatoilets-----but the fact is that the INFLOW into the USA was created by the stench of islamization in the air-----detected by the relatively sophisticated people of Teheran

Every quarter Bibi threatened to bomb Iran.. and he would often claim the Saudis had given him permission to use their airspace which was a huge lie.. But Israel is a thousand miles from Iran and they couldn't pull off a bombing wthout mid air refueling or crossing Saudi Arabia or Iraq. NOBODY including Syria would let them cross their airspace..
 


Terrorists didn’t attack Israel under Trump, who is banned on Twitter but Omar and the leader of Hamas are not banned. If terrorists are emboldened to attack Israel then what stops them from attacking us next. They see Biden as a weak ass President by just seeing the crisis at the border, him stating America is systematically racist and of course now attack on our allies.

Trump killed terrorist leaders, Biden emboldens them.

Elections have consequences.

Truth over Facts
Trump's actions in the Middle East helped to set up the attack by Hamas. He was as one-sided as he could be to get the Jewish vote, beginning with the embassy transfer, elimination of financial aid,
and totally ignoring the Palestinians as a part of the process. This attack is a perfect example of unintended consequences. and predictable since Trump never looks at the big picture.
Trump's actions in the Middle East brought peace to the region. Biden's actions have resulted in a resumption of violence because the Palestinians know he won't cut off their aid if they misbehave like Trump would have. What did you think was going to happen when you give Iran billions of dollars? Oh wait...you're as naive as Joe...you thought they'd spend it on something OTHER than terrorism? Aren't you special! (eye roll)
Trump's actions brought turmoil to the Middle East. Trump cut 'em off and they hadn't "misbehaved"
whatever the hell that means. It was an explosion waiting to happen. You are an expert on the Middle East, yes?
Are you an expert? I have family in Israel and they truly appreciated DJT....they are probably more well versed in what is better for them than you are? Yes?

What may be best for short sighted, religious fanatics or greedy people in Israel, may not be best for the world, law, peace, or the US.
It is impossible to deny that Israel is a complete artificial creation by a combination of immigrants and US weapons.
There is no legal justification for the creation of Israel.
The only possible excuse for allowing it to continue is only because of those born there since 1948.
 
Poor, needy JoeB...You are fully aware that The NT is sending you to the Eternal Lake of Fire.
But, then again, you never read it, did you?

Did you know Hebrew has no word for love?
The word means to give.
When you show Brown people your concern, don't love them, give to them.

Yes, the NT felt that just blaming God for all the natural catastrophes like the OT did wasn't going to fly with people who could actually read. So they needed to up the ante to keep the money flowing.

Christians are idiots
Jews are idiots
Muslims are idiots.

Anyone who thinks there's a magic fairy in the sky is an idiot.
Muslims are the least of the idiots.
Unlike the greed and fear of the Old and New Testaments, Islam has a much greater purpose.
Since government could not be trusted back then, Islam was the second attempt at putting government institutions into religion, so they would be permanent.
The Ancient Egyptians started that idea.
They gave the priesthood control over granaries, seed storage, food production, taking care of widows and orphans, etc.
Islam did even more of the same.
Instead of the corrupt government getting taxes, the more trustworthy priests in the Mosques got the weekly tithing.
This allowed the priests to take care of gran storage, widows and orphans, etc., and is the whole start of the social welfare system we understand we need these days.

I am not saying religion is the best way to conduct social services or that we need it any more, but considering the corrupt governments of ancient times, it was revolutionary and incredibly humane. It was the whole origin of the idea of individuals having value and rights in a growing impersonalized urban life. It was the start of civilization. Instead of just 10 commandments, the Quran covers almost every practical problem and choice that is likely to come up, and it always stresses that "God is merciful" or "God is forgiving", so it always stresses the least violent solution to any problem. The only problem with the Quran is that it was advice for a war time society, so it is way too strict for me.
With all due respect, Rigby...the "priests" in this discussion are the Mullahs and they aren't spending money on "grain" they're spending it on terror!

I disagree.
There has never been a case of Moslem conducting aggressive terror in all of history, that I am aware of.
Do imperialist countries deserve having planes hijacked?
Yes of course they do.
Look at what Truman did to the Palestinians, in total violation of international law and 2 treaties of the WWI allies.
Look at the US lies about WMD in Iraq.
The invasion of Afghanistan was also completely illegal, immoral, and murder.
We were criminal in our actions against Qaddafi, Mosei, Assad, Saddam, etc.
Out Mideast murder toll in the last 20 years is well over a million innocent people.

you could write the Khutbah Jumaats that have galvanized the murder of hundreds
of millions and COUNTING

Wrong.
Muslims do not murder.
Unlike Judaism, murder or anyone is against their religion.
Judaism exalts and rewards murder, like the massacre of Canaanite women and children by Joshua at Jericho.
according to shariah law-----it is TRUE that muslims "do not murder" The killing of a
non muslim by a muslim is not DEFINED as "murder" in islamic law. -----nor is the rape
of a non muslim woman defined as "rape" A simple example------the "killers" (not murderers)
of Daniel Pearl were careful to VIDEO TAPE the event in order to PROVE their action legal
in islamic law. Daniel said "I AM A JEW"-----and then they slit his throat. At the time---
pakistan HAD TO CONVENE a NON SHARIAH court in order to convict the murderers----since
what they did was not a crime in SHARIAH LAW. The murderers were convicted and they
were sentenced to be executed-----now they are FREE AS BIRDS----and rich and happy as
MUSLIM HEROES in Pakistan-------shariah has prevailed

Liar.
The Quran is clear that Judaism and Christianity are valid ways to heaven and that Jews and Christians can not legally be harmed.
And the proof is that Jews and Christians have never been harmed when they lived in the Mideast, unlike the way Moslems have been murdered by Christians in the Inquisitions and by Zionists in Palestine.
try again------my hubby was born in a shariah shit hole------ Unllke your ancestors and most muzzies in the world----his were LITERATE. His people have---by now----experienced a comprehensive genocide in that shariah shit hole. The temples, cemeterys schools and
homes have ALL BEEN either destroyed or, in case of buildings---STOLEN ----the sacred
sites have been trashed or-----TRANSFORMED by muzzie history into sacred muzzie sites ---
muzzie history is HILARIOUS
 

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