Big Brother is Here..

You gotta wonder how much longer it will be before America has a one party system...

Democrats want it..establishment Republicans want it...the remainder is dwindling.

After they pass "immigration reform" we'll have it.

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What has been lost? Please note with the date lost.

Thanks.

I will indulge you with only one example. In 1962 I walked into a Western Auto store and purchased a 20ga. adjustable choke shotgun and a box of shells for my dad for Christmas. The sell was totally legal, there was no identification required. I carried the gun and shells home, walking the 6 or 7 blocks and by the way, I was 11 years old at the time and had no adult with me. Now days people like you have so corrupted our society that children get suspended from school at the mere mention of a gun.

So now feel free to make a total ass out of yourself trying to explain how this is good for the country. Mean while I will continue to laugh my ass off at your sorry excuse for a person.

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You are claiming that we, as a nation have lost freedom because we do not allow 11 year olds to purchase shotguns? Or that we ask someone buying a firearm to identify themselves? That is your go to example?

You forgot to note the WHEN. When did you lose this particular freedom?

Is it Western Auto that has lost freedom. Because I can sell you my shotgun with no ID needed. Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!

I think not letting 11 year olds buy guns is good for the country. In fact, I am getting mad at myself for even spending this time with you given how fucking stupid your example was. What a disappointment.

An 11-year-old can't even setup a lemonade stand without running afoul of the government regulators.

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I will indulge you with only one example. In 1962 I walked into a Western Auto store and purchased a 20ga. adjustable choke shotgun and a box of shells for my dad for Christmas. The sell was totally legal, there was no identification required. I carried the gun and shells home, walking the 6 or 7 blocks and by the way, I was 11 years old at the time and had no adult with me. Now days people like you have so corrupted our society that children get suspended from school at the mere mention of a gun.

So now feel free to make a total ass out of yourself trying to explain how this is good for the country. Mean while I will continue to laugh my ass off at your sorry excuse for a person.

In many ways we're a lot freer. It's much easier to be upwardly mobile. A higher standard of living opened up the world to many more people. Education is much more widespread. People from different backgrounds interact much more than in the FF's days. There's so much more to it than the narrow example of being able to buy a firearm.

I told LL it would give him one example, I will now give you one. Not so many years ago Americans could travel to many places outside the US without a passport, you can't do that today. Is it because of the actions of the other countries, no, it was our government that put the restriction on us. So much for opening the world up to more people.

Before WW I you could travel anywhere in the world without a passport.

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You are claiming that we, as a nation have lost freedom because we do not allow 11 year olds to purchase shotguns? Or that we ask someone buying a firearm to identify themselves? That is your go to example?

You forgot to note the WHEN. When did you lose this particular freedom?

Is it Western Auto that has lost freedom. Because I can sell you my shotgun with no ID needed. Freedom!!!!!!!!!!!

I think not letting 11 year olds buy guns is good for the country. In fact, I am getting mad at myself for even spending this time with you given how fucking stupid your example was. What a disappointment.

Speaking of kids..when I was a kid you could run around the neighborhood, play in the streets, go on treks to forests, lakes and streams, be gone all day doing whatever. The acceptance of lowered morals and standards by liberal Democrats ruined that freedom for all our children, young adults and all of us for that matter.

You think kids don't do that today?

I know they don't.
 
The road to hell is paved with good intentions, or under the guise of them; they have to be paid for! I'm afraid that the only thing that will turn this country around is a depression like the one my father lived through. That is why he was truly conservative. However, the people today don't have the fortitude to deal with a depression, and next time it will be total collapse. These damn liberals are like spoiled kids with a no limit credit card, and the republicans spend way to much too.
Big brother is all about redistribution; the fairness doctrine, and ultimately tyrranny. He will subjugate the masses through financial collapse, and then come to get the registered guns. The masses will acquiesce, because they will already be dependants of big brother! All this information gathering, and hoarding is a prelude to total controll. Someone once said that knowledge is power. Self reliance is the only safe bet. Happy INDEPENDENCE day! This day should not be so sad. Thanks Obama, you piece of shit!
 
Dems and the rest of the world are delighted GOP ugly Americans are out of power. Too bad you racist yokels are brainwashed and fear mongered within an inch of your lives...The Dems have only added oversight to NSA, FOOLS. Thanks for the corruption depression and the stupidest wars EVER.
 
Dems and the rest of the world are delighted GOP ugly Americans are out of power. Too bad you racist yokels are brainwashed and fear mongered within an inch of your lives...The Dems have only added oversight to NSA, FOOLS. Thanks for the corruption depression and the stupidest wars EVER.

Yokels is it? Obama is in his fifth year. How long can they blame it on republicans? We accepted George Bush's "Homeland Security" because Clinton did such a bad job and actually ordered the FBI not to talk to the CIA of face criminal charges during the time the 9-11 terrorists were going to flight school in the US. Leave it to liberal democrats like Obama to turn a moderate invasive system into a freaking monster. If the war in Afghanistan is a "stupid war" why doesn't Obama do the right thing? One note of historical perspective is that Franco's post isn't in German.
 
The Liberal Democrats have been asking for it since the 1900's, they've won and now it's a reality for all of us. All facets of our lives can be and will be controlled by Government..

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Happy 4th of July.....

You've been lied to.

Big money owns Government. Government is controlled by concentrated wealth, much of which funds your news sources.

Big money funds elections. Big money staffs government.

When a congressman does not vote for corporate special interets, that congressman is removed in a primary. The Koch brothers and Grover Norquist drops a fucking brinks truck on any member of the legislature who does not control government on behalf of the wealthy corporate interests that run the system.

The 13 Blue Dog Democrats who voted against the Public Option of ObamaCare were all owned by big insurance.

BIG Health Insurance owns of 100% of the GOP and 20% of the Democratic party.

Wall Street owns both parties. Wall Street poured trillions into Reagan, Clinton and Bush's 41 & 43. Do you know what they got for their money? Answer: an unregulated derivatives market (that turned into one of the largest financial nightmares in world history). They also changed the leveraging laws, which made it possible for them to place massive bets without having the money to cover those bets. When the market went south, the private sector - your glorious John Galt - could not cover their bets. So guess what government did? Answer: they bailed out ol' John Galt, but it gets better - after they bailed out the big money, they... [wait for it] they foreclosed on the American middle class.

Government is a subsidy and bailout machine for those who own it. Turn off Hannity and Limbaugh and study who funds elections and writes legislation. Do you know who wrote the Bush Energy policies? Do you know who wrote the 2003 Bush/GOP Drug Bill? You need to understand who owns your government, otherwise you will keep shadow boxing against manufactured socialist demons.

You've been lied to. Your government is 100% owned by the Big Money that owns your news sources. If you want to complain about government, than why not FOR ONCE direct those complaints at the private sector money that funds elections and controls our legislation.
 
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The Liberal Democrats have been asking for it since the 1900's, they've won and now it's a reality for all of us. All facets of our lives can be and will be controlled by Government.
I'm not suggesting there is no substance to what you've said, but it is self-defeating to think in terms of Liberal or Conservative, etc. The kind of one-dimensional (tribal) reasoning that leaves us vulnerable to exploitation by crooked politicians extends across all categories of affiliation and all political belief systems.

It's best to think in terms of individuals rather than parties.
 
The Liberal Democrats have been asking for it since the 1900's, they've won and now it's a reality for all of us. All facets of our lives can be and will be controlled by Government..

.....:wtf:

Happy 4th of July.....

Nonsense.

There is no ‘big brother,’ the only thing real is your partisan hysteria and hyperbole.
 
The Liberal Democrats have been asking for it since the 1900's, they've won and now it's a reality for all of us. All facets of our lives can be and will be controlled by Government..

.....:wtf:

Happy 4th of July.....

Nonsense.

There is no ‘big brother,’ the only thing real is your partisan hysteria and hyperbole.

I always liked this song..

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We are free. As free as we have ever been.

You sir are full of crap or too young and stupid to know what has been lost.

What has been lost? Please note with the date lost.

Thanks.

let me be one of the first to tell this kid what i see is lost, a 12 y.o. barefoot, bib overall, no t shirt wearing boy walks into the local general sore and buys a .22 single shot rifle and two boxes of .22 short ammo, a pound of rationed sugar and a box of corn flakes he hands the clerk a $20.00 bill receives a couple one dollar silver certificates and some silver coins and a hand written receipt along with the rifle and ammo, and food, on his way home up a mile and a half sand and clay road, he pops a couple squirrels, takes them home, where his faithful doggie Tippy awaits his arrival, he cleans them, mom cooks them up along with squirrel gravy and sweet potatoes with some collard greens, he and Mom say a prayer at the table asking GOD to protect Dad who is away fighting a war.., THAT sir is what has been lost.., the good old days !!
 
The Liberal Democrats have been asking for it since the 1900's, they've won and now it's a reality for all of us. All facets of our lives can be and will be controlled by Government..

.....:wtf:

Happy 4th of July.....


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I swear by God once this stupid country goes south all you leftist dogs will be in my cross hairs. Fists will work but eventually guns will rule the day.
 
I swear by God once this stupid country goes south all you leftist dogs will be in my cross hairs. Fists will work but eventually guns will rule the day.
Your observation that America is heading south is correct but you are looking in the wrong direction for the cause. While some left-wing activism bears some responsibility for what's gone wrong I urge you to examine the real causes of our most serious problems, because they began with Ronald Reagan. And while Bill Clinton did his share of the damage it was the Bush dynasty which has been most brazenly active in transforming this Nation into an emerging Plutocracy.

While it may be said I lean to the left I am not your enemy and in the final analysis it is likely we both want the same or closely similar things. But if you believe I am your enemy it's because you've been indoctrinated to believe that.
 
We are indeed living in the era of Big Brother. Books I would suggest for the doubting Thomas, which appears there are several would be: 1984, Brave New World, Fahrenheit 451, The Naked Communist and The Communist Manifesto.

Now, there are some idiots here who think we are more free than ever...really? No, we are not more free. In the U.S. in 1933 we had too many regulations back then at 2,000. By 1986 there were over 40,000 regulations, and as of today there are well over 80,000 regulations. That is not being more free than before, we are over regulated and over taxed. Then of course we have Obamacare being forced on us, NSA and IRS harassment, then we get the harassment from the TSA at airports. We have a lunatic who escaped from a mental institute and became mayor or NYC who wants to ban as many things as his convoluted mind can process. We have seen multiple attempts to shut down the likes of Rush Limbaugh while allowing Bill Maher to say whatever he wants. We have a media that is nothing more than the Joseph Goebbels of the radical Marxist left in America. We have a dictator......errrr.....president who forced the president of GM to step down, along with CEOs of other companies. I can keep going on, but how can one have the audacity to say we are more free than ever?

America's decent towards a radical, tyrannical Marxist dictatorship is happening at a breath taking rate, and it is largely due in part to passive, hapless useful idiots in this country who know more about their favorite sports teams than they do what's going on in D.C. From the attacks on religion to Americans being dumbed down through a politicized substandard education, we have politicians in both parties screwing this country. Obama and the Democrats are spending and printing money at an alarming rate and leading us towards becoming the next Wiemar Republic....all while we have useful idiots in this country sticking their chests out like a rooster and crowing to the world about how free we are all while we march towards the slavery of a tyrannical Marxist dictatorship and the rest of world laughs at the idiocy of some who think we are more free than ever.
 
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I swear by God once this stupid country goes south all you leftist dogs will be in my cross hairs. Fists will work but eventually guns will rule the day.
Your observation that America is heading south is correct but you are looking in the wrong direction for the cause. While some left-wing activism bears some responsibility for what's gone wrong I urge you to examine the real causes of our most serious problems, because they began with Ronald Reagan. And while Bill Clinton did his share of the damage it was the Bush dynasty which has been most brazenly active in transforming this Nation into an emerging Plutocracy.

While it may be said I lean to the left I am not your enemy and in the final analysis it is likely we both want the same or closely similar things. But if you believe I am your enemy it's because you've been indoctrinated to believe that.

You are correct sir. On occasion my detest for leftists sometimes occludes the fact that I know that the scumbags that run this place have are neither left or right.

I'm tired. I apologize if I have offended you. My words were harsh but we have more in common than you know. Thank you.
 

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