Boom!!!! Judge in Manafort case says Mueller only wants to hurt Trump

[Hutch Starskey]

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation. In this case trying to charge Manafort with so called crimes from a decade before the so called collusion.

The Judge confirmed that none of this has anything to do with Russia, the Ukraine, and Collusion and asked why it was in his court room. Should be handled in a lower court.

The FBI is trying to sentence Manafort for over 300 years for tax evasion and money laundering charges that have nothing to do with the scope assigned to Mueller.

Dirty cops playing dirty and out of bounds with their assignment. They were chastised on that as well.

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation

It's not up to the judge or you to decide what is within Mueller's scope. That decision is made by Rosenstein who decided it was.

It's within his power to send them packing for being in the wrong court of law...........Also within his power to see that scope to make sure he isn't sending them to a lower court for them being out of bounds............Can't decide that without seeing it..........Now can he.

It's his COURT ROOM NOT MUELLERS...............TASTING REALITY YET.

No. There is only one authority on what the scope of Mueller's investigative and indictment powers are. Rosenstein.
He signed off on both the investigation and indictment of Manafort. There is therefore, no question to be answered.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"President Donald Trump's No. 2 appointee at the Justice Department, Rod Rosenstein, specifically authorized special counsel Robert Mueller to investigate former Trump campaign Chairman Paul Manafort and approved his indictment, prosecutors said in a court filing late Monday night.

Some Trump allies have suggested that by pursuing charges of money laundering, tax fraud and unregistered foreign lobbying against Manafort, Mueller is straying from his core mission of probing alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia prior to the 2016 election.

However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."




Done. There is no question at all.

 

[eagle1462010]

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation. In this case trying to charge Manafort with so called crimes from a decade before the so called collusion.

The Judge confirmed that none of this has anything to do with Russia, the Ukraine, and Collusion and asked why it was in his court room. Should be handled in a lower court.

The FBI is trying to sentence Manafort for over 300 years for tax evasion and money laundering charges that have nothing to do with the scope assigned to Mueller.

Dirty cops playing dirty and out of bounds with their assignment. They were chastised on that as well.

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation

It's not up to the judge or you to decide what is within Mueller's scope. That decision is made by Rosenstein who decided it was.

It's within his power to send them packing for being in the wrong court of law...........Also within his power to see that scope to make sure he isn't sending them to a lower court for them being out of bounds............Can't decide that without seeing it..........Now can he.

It's his COURT ROOM NOT MUELLERS...............TASTING REALITY YET.

No. There is only one authority on what the scope of Mueller's investigative and indictment powers are. Rosenstein.
He signed off on both the investigation and indictment of Manafort. There is therefore, no question to be answered.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"President Donald Trump's No. 2 appointee at the Justice Department, Rod Rosenstein, specifically authorized special counsel Robert Mueller to investigate former Trump campaign Chairman Paul Manafort and approved his indictment, prosecutors said in a court filing late Monday night.

Some Trump allies have suggested that by pursuing charges of money laundering, tax fraud and unregistered foreign lobbying against Manafort, Mueller is straying from his core mission of probing alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia prior to the 2016 election.

However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."




Done. There is no question at all.

To sum that up. He is NOW GOD...................Now tell me about why the Republic has 3 distinct branches and which part he is in..............................

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Alt Right Land and its landsers are just so desperate.

So much so that they suspend all faculty for rational thought. Watching them try to manage and explain the many contradictions on the Daniels payout has been very entertaining.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Oh, eagle, so sorry for you.

The remit is the guiding document. A district judge cannot alter it or overturn it. If he does, he will be overruled and a new judge will replace him.

 

[eagle1462010]

Alt Right Land and its landsers are just so desperate.

So much so that they suspend all faculty for rational thought. Watching them try to manage and explain the many contradictions on the Daniels payout has been very entertaining.

A year and half ago this began as what................seems the confusion is on your side.

 

[BluesLegend]

This Federal judge called BS on Mueller and his team of hacks. What bothers me about the DOJ and special prosecutors is they don't pursue the truth their goal is to GOTCHA someone even if they have to lie and undermine the very justice system they are sworn to uphold and protect.

 

[eagle1462010]

Oh, eagle, so sorry for you.

The remit is the guiding document. A district judge cannot alter it or overturn it. If he does, he will be overruled and a new judge will replace him.

The Constitution is the guiding document...........and the laws of the republic are the guidelines...........not a memo on how to proceed with a investigation..........

You guys get back to me when you figure out the difference.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation. In this case trying to charge Manafort with so called crimes from a decade before the so called collusion.

The Judge confirmed that none of this has anything to do with Russia, the Ukraine, and Collusion and asked why it was in his court room. Should be handled in a lower court.

The FBI is trying to sentence Manafort for over 300 years for tax evasion and money laundering charges that have nothing to do with the scope assigned to Mueller.

Dirty cops playing dirty and out of bounds with their assignment. They were chastised on that as well.

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation

It's not up to the judge or you to decide what is within Mueller's scope. That decision is made by Rosenstein who decided it was.

It's within his power to send them packing for being in the wrong court of law...........Also within his power to see that scope to make sure he isn't sending them to a lower court for them being out of bounds............Can't decide that without seeing it..........Now can he.

It's his COURT ROOM NOT MUELLERS...............TASTING REALITY YET.

No. There is only one authority on what the scope of Mueller's investigative and indictment powers are. Rosenstein.
He signed off on both the investigation and indictment of Manafort. There is therefore, no question to be answered.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"President Donald Trump's No. 2 appointee at the Justice Department, Rod Rosenstein, specifically authorized special counsel Robert Mueller to investigate former Trump campaign Chairman Paul Manafort and approved his indictment, prosecutors said in a court filing late Monday night.

Some Trump allies have suggested that by pursuing charges of money laundering, tax fraud and unregistered foreign lobbying against Manafort, Mueller is straying from his core mission of probing alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia prior to the 2016 election.

However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."




Done. There is no question at all.

To sum that up. He is NOW GOD...................Now tell me about why the Republic has 3 distinct branches and which part he is in..............................

Are you confused?
Who is the deciding authority over the scope of a special counsel's investigations and indictments?

Hint: It isn't a federal judge.

 

[eagle1462010]

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation. In this case trying to charge Manafort with so called crimes from a decade before the so called collusion.

The Judge confirmed that none of this has anything to do with Russia, the Ukraine, and Collusion and asked why it was in his court room. Should be handled in a lower court.

The FBI is trying to sentence Manafort for over 300 years for tax evasion and money laundering charges that have nothing to do with the scope assigned to Mueller.

Dirty cops playing dirty and out of bounds with their assignment. They were chastised on that as well.

Judge said what we've been saying all along. He's out of bounds with the scope of his investigation

It's not up to the judge or you to decide what is within Mueller's scope. That decision is made by Rosenstein who decided it was.

It's within his power to send them packing for being in the wrong court of law...........Also within his power to see that scope to make sure he isn't sending them to a lower court for them being out of bounds............Can't decide that without seeing it..........Now can he.

It's his COURT ROOM NOT MUELLERS...............TASTING REALITY YET.

No. There is only one authority on what the scope of Mueller's investigative and indictment powers are. Rosenstein.
He signed off on both the investigation and indictment of Manafort. There is therefore, no question to be answered.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"President Donald Trump's No. 2 appointee at the Justice Department, Rod Rosenstein, specifically authorized special counsel Robert Mueller to investigate former Trump campaign Chairman Paul Manafort and approved his indictment, prosecutors said in a court filing late Monday night.

Some Trump allies have suggested that by pursuing charges of money laundering, tax fraud and unregistered foreign lobbying against Manafort, Mueller is straying from his core mission of probing alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia prior to the 2016 election.

However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."




Done. There is no question at all.

To sum that up. He is NOW GOD...................Now tell me about why the Republic has 3 distinct branches and which part he is in..............................

Are you confused?
Who is the deciding authority over the scope of a special counsel's investigations and indictments?

Hint: It isn't a federal judge.

He made the guidelines but isn't the deciding authority on the legality of issues in the Court. Damn your dumb.

Again..........3 branches...........they check each other...........perhaps you need to be trained on what a Republic means.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Alt Right Land and its landsers are just so desperate.

So much so that they suspend all faculty for rational thought. Watching them try to manage and explain the many contradictions on the Daniels payout has been very entertaining.

A year and half ago this began as what................seems the confusion is on your side.

The question isn't about how this began a year and a half ago, dope.

The question is whether or not the indictment of Manafort was within the scope of the special counsel's investigative authority. The Deputy AG says very clearly that it was indeed.

Motion denied.

 

[eagle1462010]

Alt Right Land and its landsers are just so desperate.

So much so that they suspend all faculty for rational thought. Watching them try to manage and explain the many contradictions on the Daniels payout has been very entertaining.

A year and half ago this began as what................seems the confusion is on your side.

The question isn't about how this began a year and a half ago, dope.

The question is whether or not the indictment of Manafort was within the scope of the special counsel's investigative authority. The Deputy AG says very clearly that it was indeed.

Motion denied.

Whatever bro.........

You still think they are gods...................if so why do we need the Judicial Branch at all.............There is a reason they have to go to the courts to decide, try and proceed with legal matters...........but it just goes over your head............

What the hell do they teach in schools these days.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It's not up to the judge or you to decide what is within Mueller's scope. That decision is made by Rosenstein who decided it was.

It's within his power to send them packing for being in the wrong court of law...........Also within his power to see that scope to make sure he isn't sending them to a lower court for them being out of bounds............Can't decide that without seeing it..........Now can he.

It's his COURT ROOM NOT MUELLERS...............TASTING REALITY YET.

No. There is only one authority on what the scope of Mueller's investigative and indictment powers are. Rosenstein.
He signed off on both the investigation and indictment of Manafort. There is therefore, no question to be answered.

Prosecutors: Rosenstein gave Mueller OK to probe, indict Manafort

"President Donald Trump's No. 2 appointee at the Justice Department, Rod Rosenstein, specifically authorized special counsel Robert Mueller to investigate former Trump campaign Chairman Paul Manafort and approved his indictment, prosecutors said in a court filing late Monday night.

Some Trump allies have suggested that by pursuing charges of money laundering, tax fraud and unregistered foreign lobbying against Manafort, Mueller is straying from his core mission of probing alleged collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia prior to the 2016 election.

However, Mueller's team submitted a previously undisclosed memo to a federal court in Washington showing that a few months after Mueller was appointed last May, Rosenstein gave him explicit authority to target Manafort over the financial aspects of his lobbying work for the Ukrainian government — in addition to allegations he was linked to Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The May 17, 2017 [appointment] order was worded categorically in order to permit its release without confirming specific investigations involving specific individuals," Rosenstein wrote in the Aug. 2, 2017 memo. "The following allegations were within the scope of the Investigation at the time of your appointment and are within the scope of the Order: ... Allegations that Paul Manafort: Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government's efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law. Committed a crime or crimes arising out of payments he received from the Ukrainian government before and during the tenure of President Viktor Yanukovych."




Done. There is no question at all.

To sum that up. He is NOW GOD...................Now tell me about why the Republic has 3 distinct branches and which part he is in..............................

Are you confused?
Who is the deciding authority over the scope of a special counsel's investigations and indictments?

Hint: It isn't a federal judge.

He made the guidelines but isn't the deciding authority on the legality of issues in the Court. Damn your dumb.

Again..........3 branches...........they check each other...........perhaps you need to be trained on what a Republic means.

He made the guidelines but isn't the deciding authority on the legality of issues in the Court. Damn your dumb.

The issue in court IS the legality of those guidelines, dope.

Damn your dumb.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Rosenstein wrote the remit and the guidelines. The FISA court upheld it. Now a Republican appointee is playing god.

He will be toppled . . . easily.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Alt Right Land and its landsers are just so desperate.

So much so that they suspend all faculty for rational thought. Watching them try to manage and explain the many contradictions on the Daniels payout has been very entertaining.

A year and half ago this began as what................seems the confusion is on your side.

The question isn't about how this began a year and a half ago, dope.

The question is whether or not the indictment of Manafort was within the scope of the special counsel's investigative authority. The Deputy AG says very clearly that it was indeed.

Motion denied.

Whatever bro.........

You still think they are gods...................if so why do we need the Judicial Branch at all.............There is a reason they have to go to the courts to decide, try and proceed with legal matters...........but it just goes over your head............

What the hell do they teach in schools these days.

You still think they are gods.......

Not at all. That is your damaged perspective.

I simply believe that Rosenstein is doing his job and this motion is a desperate attempt to get the charges dropped. IOW, reality.

 

[eagle1462010]

Alt Right Land and its landsers are just so desperate.

So much so that they suspend all faculty for rational thought. Watching them try to manage and explain the many contradictions on the Daniels payout has been very entertaining.

A year and half ago this began as what................seems the confusion is on your side.

The question isn't about how this began a year and a half ago, dope.

The question is whether or not the indictment of Manafort was within the scope of the special counsel's investigative authority. The Deputy AG says very clearly that it was indeed.

Motion denied.

Whatever bro.........

You still think they are gods...................if so why do we need the Judicial Branch at all.............There is a reason they have to go to the courts to decide, try and proceed with legal matters...........but it just goes over your head............

What the hell do they teach in schools these days.

You still think they are gods.......

Not at all. That is your damaged perspective.

I simply believe that Rosenstein is doing his job and this motion is a desperate attempt to get the charges dropped. IOW, reality.

The Judge said why aren't those cases in a lower court by normal proceedings...............and wanted to know why they thought they had the authority to bring it to a higher court when some accusations were a decade old..........

So he requested the guidelines..................Will they deny him that ...................or he can simply say take it to a lower court and get the hell out of my courtroom......................Yeah...........he can make that decision...........and then you can appeal............and another judge can over rule or sustain................then appeal.....wash rinse repeat

Rosenstein can set guidelines.....doesn't mean his guidelines are legal...........why the courts are the deciding factor.

 

[bodecea]

Unfreaking real. Awesome development.

"You don't really care about Mr. Manafort's bank fraud," District Judge T.S. Ellis said to prosecutor Michael Dreeben, at times losing his temper. Ellis said prosecutors were interested in Manafort because of his potential to provide material that would lead to Trump's "prosecution or impeachment," Ellis said.

"That's what you're really interested in," said Ellis, who was appointed by President Ronald Reagan.

He repeated his suspicion several times in the hour-long court hearing."

Judge in Manafort case says Mueller's aim is to hurt Trump - CNNPolitics

Where did he say "only"?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The Mueller investigation....

Looks more like the Manafort express.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It's a kick to watch conservative snowflakes act like they know the law.

LOL

The IG gave the goods on McCabe. The Judge basically said what we've been saying all along. Judicial Watch has the other goods that need to be brought into investigation. Not to mention the Full IG report is not out nor the investigation of the FISA warrants from a prosecuter with the DOJ.

Mueller isn't up against amateurs...............And your side just got smacked in the face today whether you like it or not.

McCabe has not a thing to do with this motion, fool.

 

[eagle1462010]

It's a kick to watch conservative snowflakes act like they know the law.

LOL

The IG gave the goods on McCabe. The Judge basically said what we've been saying all along. Judicial Watch has the other goods that need to be brought into investigation. Not to mention the Full IG report is not out nor the investigation of the FISA warrants from a prosecuter with the DOJ.

Mueller isn't up against amateurs...............And your side just got smacked in the face today whether you like it or not.

McCabe has not a thing to do with this motion, fool.

You can't figure out examples of this investigation being allowed in this precious thread now can you...........

Bottom line.................Judicial Branch is not beholding to the executive branch.........maybe one day you'll understand that.

 

[Billy_Bob]

"The judge clearly showed that they had EXCEEDED THIER LEGAL MANDATE PRIOR to Rosenstine widening it" is the silliest statement of the day. Rosenstein's letter is legal and will guide the judge. If the judge rules against it, the ruling will be appealed and overturned within a week at the most.

It is not that simple, and here is why:

Why Did DOJ Asst. AG Rod Rosenstein Reauthorize FISA Warrant on July 18th, 2017? – Mueller and Rosenstein Timeline…

May 4, 2018 by Sundance

Excerpt:

"One of the most frequent questions about Asst. Attorney General Rod Rosenstein circles around his decision to reauthorize the FISA Title-1 surveillance warrant used against Carter Page and by extension the Trump campaign. In this outline we take the timeline and overlay new information that helps to understand what was going on:

• Why did Rosenstein renew that sketchy FISA warrant July 18th, 2017?
• Why did Mueller request clarity two weeks later on August 2nd, 2017?"

"

WHY DIDN'T HE NOTIFY THE COURT OF THE FALLACIOUS DOCUMENT USED, ITS CREATORS AND FUNDING, TO THE COURT AND WITHDRAW THE WARRANT AND APPLICATION?

It is possible that Mueller and Rosenstein were not given all the facts from the CORRUPT FBI units involved in the investigation PRIOR to Mueller's arrival to take over the investigation. But the August 2, 2017 clarity request indicate that Mueller is concerned about the FBI corruption might damage his own investigation.

Something happened between July 19 to August 2, that prompted Mueller to make that request.

Something smells.

More likely Mueller is worried the FBI might not be corrupt enough to advance his faux investigation.

Well...

It was corrupt enough to kick in Manafort's door and investigate him, clearly out side of the scope of Mueller's mandate and one which Rosentstine justified AFTER THE FACT by expanding the scope authority. Making every single thing Mueller obtained fruit of the poisonous tree and obtained by illegal acts.

This was prosecutorial misconduct at its worst and Rosenstine is covering it up.