Both parties are pretty much the same shit

[Billo_Really]

Oh, Billow, you're so predictable.
Always Chairman Billo, trying to disenchant and demoralize her loyal opposition.

No one can disenchant and demoralize a country more than Trump. People cheering him on aren't supporting this country. People putting a republican homer on the Supreme Court, don't support this country. And the most aggravating thing about all of this is, even though it is more than obvious republicans are mentally incapable of being anywhere near a public office, democrats are not the answer.

 

[sparky]

America is not controlled by Congress or the Potus anymore, other than to pit each of us against each other ,incessantly squabbeling over the crumbs that fall from the table of the elites that DO set this countries course

The $$'s speak for themselves.....



Further, Congress exempts itself from much of what we 'wee folk' assume for HC, sex harrass laws, taxation, etc.

That 28th amd could well be revisited ,add in we (the people) want our representative ratioed with population, and we should have 4350 congresscritters

Up that ante', and institute term limits, sh*tcan the federal election laws (Citizens V FEC) , for that matter have our politicians drawn from a hat like the draft .....

~S~

 

[deanrd]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

IMHO, I just cannot agree with that when manipulative, well-planned lies become the preferred tactic for winning an election on one side, and the other side bends over backward to do good deeds and who employ the good vibes of encouragement of the best in other people that makes the kind of leadership America has enjoyed from the time General George Washington bended his knee in prayer to God for helping him remove the pain of his fellow Americans being taxed tand ignored without any kind of representation or power to be heard, whatsoever.

What we say and do matters.

That’s what Republicans went for America. That’s why they practice voter suppression. Billionaires and millionaires use the GOP base to stay in power. And the way they do it is to scare them. Make them think brown people are coming to take their jobs and rape their daughters. People with no education believe that nonsense. And there you have it, Republicans.

You did not address what I said, deanrd. Nothing about the lies told when Justice Kavanaugh was being fried-on-an-open-pit by female Democrat Diane Feinstein orchestrated the biggest fibbiefest ever presented to a large audience of Americans. The trouble with speaking lies for so long, is the later checkup that determines very little of her presentation aimed at assassinating the character of a man who spent a lifetime working on doing a good job on the bench of the law, which he learned and practiced like no one else, with an aim to be the best jurist in America. President Trump was well advised to back him, although nobody on this planet except in the dark, hazy rooms of the dirty tricks girls and boys of the Democrat demolition committee dreamt up this huge prank with the goal of having parties after they successfully made most of the people in the world think badly of everyone concerned with Justice in America. Only they went a little too far into theatrics that just couldn't overcome the speaker's body language that was all too consistent with the body language of someone not telling the truth. And certainly sure enough, Dr. Ford's harsh and untrue allegations were exposed word for word in less than 24 hours after the Democrats tried to destroy the Supreme Court's reputation with idle and falsified mumblings about an innocent man being hammered for things too shameful to think about. You're ignoring the fact that American citizens do not agree that lying isn't important. It is important, and it does matter to Americans that leadership bears the truth to the public. When they don't tell the truth, politicians are shooting themselves in the foot, and just how little Americans appreciated being blantly fooled with will become a lot clearer to you in just about three weeks from now on election day. I think the DNC will go down in flames, and I hope this country is not exposed to lies for the duration.

How can you believe Kavanaugh was telling the truth?
If he were telling the truth he would’ve done anything to prove it. Even lie detector test.

 

[John Shaw]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

Only a fuking idiot would say something so stupid.

If they were the same, both would be in favor of healthcare.

Both would be against tax cuts for billionaires.

One party wouldn't be nearly all white and the other party everyone else.

This has to be a Republican who wrote something so obviously delusional and stupid.

Haha, you actually think the democratic party gives a shit about you. That's fucking adorable.

The fact that the the Republican party is mostly white and the Democrats are "everyone else", is exactly what I'm talking about. Has there ever been a more obvious tool of divide and conquer than race? So completely simple; get the plebs to fight each other over insignificant things while we continue to fleece them. The parties talk a big game, but at the end of the day, MONEY is God. And guess who has most of it? Not your average voter, that's for damned sure.

 

[Doc1]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

Only a fuking idiot would say something so stupid.

If they were the same, both would be in favor of healthcare.

Both would be against tax cuts for billionaires.

One party wouldn't be nearly all white and the other party everyone else.

This has to be a Republican who wrote something so obviously delusional and stupid.

Haha, you actually think the democratic party gives a shit about you. That's fucking adorable.

The fact that the the Republican party is mostly white and the Democrats are "everyone else", is exactly what I'm talking about. Has there ever been a more obvious tool of divide and conquer than race? So completely simple; get the plebs to fight each other over insignificant things while we continue to fleece them. The parties talk a big game, but at the end of the day, MONEY is God. And guess who has most of it? Not your average voter, that's for damned sure.

It's worse now than it has ever been.

"
Lyrics
There's something happening here
What it is ain't exactly clear
There's a man with a gun over there
Telling me I got to beware
I think it's time we stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong
Young people speaking their minds
Getting so much resistance from behind
It's time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
What a field-day for the heat
A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly say, hooray for our side
It's s time we stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep
It starts when you're always afraid
You step out of line, the man come and take you away
We better stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, hey, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, now, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Stop, children, what's that sound
Everybody look what's going down
Songwriters: Stephen Stills

 

[tycho1572]

Both parties are pretty much the same? Wtf? lol

There’s a huge difference between our parties!
One has been working to appease other countries at our expense. The other is focused on improving life for Americans.

One has been sending jobs overseas.... the other is bringing them back.

One thinks our borders should be open.... the other understands the importance of them being secure.

I could go on and on.

 

[John Shaw]

Both parties are pretty much the same? Wtf? lol

There’s a huge difference between our parties!
One has been working to appease other countries at our expense. The other is focused on improving life for Americans.

One has been sending jobs overseas.... the other is bringing them back.

One thinks our borders should be open.... the other understands the importance of them being secure.

I could go on and on.

Sounds like you're interviewing for a job at FOX "News", good Sir.

 

[tycho1572]

Both parties are pretty much the same? Wtf? lol

There’s a huge difference between our parties!
One has been working to appease other countries at our expense. The other is focused on improving life for Americans.

One has been sending jobs overseas.... the other is bringing them back.

One thinks our borders should be open.... the other understands the importance of them being secure.

I could go on and on.

Sounds like you're interviewing for a job at FOX "News", good Sir.

Why would you say that?

 

[Issa]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

Except for the courts, the 1st Amendment, taxes, the 2nd Amendment, the democrats are the party of racism and hate...the Republican party couldn't care less about race.....you mean except for those quick differences?

Pohahahahahaa who are you lying to? Before even moving to the us repuvlican=more likely a religious racist. Dude what drugs are you on?

 

[beautress]

Oh, Billow, you're so predictable.
Always Chairman Billo, trying to disenchant and demoralize her loyal opposition.

No one can disenchant and demoralize a country more than Trump. People cheering him on aren't supporting this country. People putting a republican homer on the Supreme Court, don't support this country. And the most aggravating thing about all of this is, even though it is more than obvious republicans are mentally incapable of being anywhere near a public office, democrats are not the answer.

"No one can disenchant and demoralize a country more than Trump"

You must have missed 9/11 when men from a former Axis country of WWII background hijacked and kamikazied two towers in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. They tried to disenchant and demoralize America, not our dear President Donald Trump who is doing what he does best - making America a fiscally good place to do business with and working to pay off debts of earlier administrations who didn't know how to control Congressional spenders from doing a lot of damage by increasing the national debt further, and by founder's standards, illegally picking the pockets of working men and women to the point of making it hard on them to make ends meet for their families.

"People cheering him on aren't supporting this country."

You're dead wrong, dear Billo. Every year we pay taxes to cities, counties, the states we live in, and national income taxes incurred by labor and profits alike. We vote because the US Constitution has suffered ordinary people to vote on the people who will best serve the most people's interests in keeping America strong. It's high time we pay our bills incurred by putting the nation in debt by previous administrations. President Donald Trump and especially his supporters are highly in favor of controlling spending and paying off debts so we can be free of debt for once and for all. And from the spenders in Congress at the head of the line, President Donald and his family and his supporters are taking unconscionable in-your-face critiques from people with their gimme-gimme hands out to take what they think is free money other taxpayers paid to keep America strong. They see that big lump sum, and not the bills piling up in the National Debt. We have to pay that debt down, and we are happy we have a president in the White House trying to do just that.

"republicans are mentally incapable of being anywhere near a public office, democrats are not the answer."

Well, you can eat a worm over it if you think it's hopeless, but many of us do not. We think we can and we will pay the debt, Make America a fiscal force to be reckoned with, support President Donald in this thankless task, and try to convince dear souls like you not to eat the worm of despair, and know that we Republicans did choose a man named Donald Trump fully on purpose to use his business skills to make America an able business force in the world to make life good for those who work hard, good for all Americans with no favoritism to one or another differing groups.

I have good faith in President Trump, because he insists that people on his watch do the tasks that his administration of repairs has to be doing to the best of its abilities. It would help to have a helping hand from you to help keep America a free and proud country that helps those who need help and stands up to bullies who massacre their own people with ricin, bombs, political unfairness, and bullets.






​

 

[beautress]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

IMHO, I just cannot agree with that when manipulative, well-planned lies become the preferred tactic for winning an election on one side, and the other side bends over backward to do good deeds and who employ the good vibes of encouragement of the best in other people that makes the kind of leadership America has enjoyed from the time General George Washington bended his knee in prayer to God for helping him remove the pain of his fellow Americans being taxed tand ignored without any kind of representation or power to be heard, whatsoever.

What we say and do matters.

That’s what Republicans went for America. That’s why they practice voter suppression. Billionaires and millionaires use the GOP base to stay in power. And the way they do it is to scare them. Make them think brown people are coming to take their jobs and rape their daughters. People with no education believe that nonsense. And there you have it, Republicans.

You did not address what I said, deanrd. Nothing about the lies told when Justice Kavanaugh was being fried-on-an-open-pit by female Democrat Diane Feinstein orchestrated the biggest fibbiefest ever presented to a large audience of Americans. The trouble with speaking lies for so long, is the later checkup that determines very little of her presentation aimed at assassinating the character of a man who spent a lifetime working on doing a good job on the bench of the law, which he learned and practiced like no one else, with an aim to be the best jurist in America. President Trump was well advised to back him, although nobody on this planet except in the dark, hazy rooms of the dirty tricks girls and boys of the Democrat demolition committee dreamt up this huge prank with the goal of having parties after they successfully made most of the people in the world think badly of everyone concerned with Justice in America. Only they went a little too far into theatrics that just couldn't overcome the speaker's body language that was all too consistent with the body language of someone not telling the truth. And certainly sure enough, Dr. Ford's harsh and untrue allegations were exposed word for word in less than 24 hours after the Democrats tried to destroy the Supreme Court's reputation with idle and falsified mumblings about an innocent man being hammered for things too shameful to think about. You're ignoring the fact that American citizens do not agree that lying isn't important. It is important, and it does matter to Americans that leadership bears the truth to the public. When they don't tell the truth, politicians are shooting themselves in the foot, and just how little Americans appreciated being blantly fooled with will become a lot clearer to you in just about three weeks from now on election day. I think the DNC will go down in flames, and I hope this country is not exposed to lies for the duration.

How can you believe Kavanaugh was telling the truth?
If he were telling the truth he would’ve done anything to prove it. Even lie detector test.

"How can you believe Kavanaugh was telling the truth?"​

Because a man is innocent until he is proven guilty. Nothing said proved him guilty.

"If he were telling the truth he would’ve done anything to prove it. Even lie detector test."

First, you forget, he is innocent until his accuser proves him guilty. She brought nothing to the table that would convict that innocent man.
​

 

[Leo123]

People who voted for Trump are true Patriots MAGA!!!

No they're not. This is a country based on the rule of law. Patriots support that tenant. Trump has done everything he could to compromise the rule of law.

• refusing to release his taxes
• violating the emoluments clause
• obstruction of justice
• praising a congressman who body-slammed a reporter
• refusing to enforce the Affordable Care Act

Patriots believe truth and justice is the American way. This President lies 6 - 20 times a day. From inaugural crowd sizes, to immigrant criminals, to his involvement with Russian agents. And the people who cheer all this shit on are not patriots, they're bad Americans.

Now that is funny!! A laundry list of overblown, tried and failed Democrat-tactic talking points.

 

[Billo_Really]

"No one can disenchant and demoralize a country more than Trump"

You must have missed 9/11 when men from a former Axis country of WWII background hijacked and kamikazied two towers in the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. They tried to disenchant and demoralize America, not our dear President Donald Trump who is doing what he does best - making America a fiscally good place to do business with and working to pay off debts of earlier administrations who didn't know how to control Congressional spenders from doing a lot of damage by increasing the national debt further, and by founder's standards, illegally picking the pockets of working men and women to the point of making it hard on them to make ends meet for their families.​

You're so full of shit I have to raise my pant legs just so they won't get dirty. Are you saying Saudi Arabia was an Axis nation? And WTF are you talking about "paying off debts"? Because of that bullshit tax bill, we now have the largest deficit we've ever had.​

"People cheering him on aren't supporting this country."

You're dead wrong, dear Billo. Every year we pay taxes to cities, counties, the states we live in, and national income taxes incurred by labor and profits alike. We vote because the US Constitution has suffered ordinary people to vote on the people who will best serve the most people's interests in keeping America strong. It's high time we pay our bills incurred by putting the nation in debt by previous administrations. President Donald Trump and especially his supporters are highly in favor of controlling spending and paying off debts so we can be free of debt for once and for all. And from the spenders in Congress at the head of the line, President Donald and his family and his supporters are taking unconscionable in-your-face critiques from people with their gimme-gimme hands out to take what they think is free money other taxpayers paid to keep America strong. They see that big lump sum, and not the bills piling up in the National Debt. We have to pay that debt down, and we are happy we have a president in the White House trying to do just that.​

If he is in favor of controlling spending, then why did he increase the obscene defense budget? Why are we still fighting these bullshit wars that are costing tax payers trillions of dollars with nothing in return. Trump and his family are more akin to the Romanhoff's of Russia, than he is to anything American.
​

"republicans are mentally incapable of being anywhere near a public office, democrats are not the answer."

Well, you can eat a worm over it if you think it's hopeless, but many of us do not. We think we can and we will pay the debt, Make America a fiscal force to be reckoned with, support President Donald in this thankless task, and try to convince dear souls like you not to eat the worm of despair, and know that we Republicans did choose a man named Donald Trump fully on purpose to use his business skills to make America an able business force in the world to make life good for those who work hard, good for all Americans with no favoritism to one or another differing groups.​

I didn't say it was hopeless. But as far as The Donald's business skills, why would you point to that seeing how he filed for bankruptcy at least a half-dozen times. His credit is so bad, the Russians were the only ones to loan him money.
​

I have good faith in President Trump, because he insists that people on his watch do the tasks that his administration of repairs has to be doing to the best of its abilities. It would help to have a helping hand from you to help keep America a free and proud country that helps those who need help and stands up to bullies who massacre their own people with ricin, bombs, political unfairness, and bullets.​

What are you talking about? He's had the highest turnover of people in his administration than any other President. And you're lying to yourself if you think we help those in need. Tell that to the immigrants trying to enter the country. Or parents trying to get their children back. Or country's we bombed back to the stone age, like Iraq and Afghanistan.

You're living in Rainbow Land.




​

 

[Billo_Really]

Now that is funny!! A laundry list of overblown, tried and failed Democrat-tactic talking points.

Nice dodge.

 

[Lakhota]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

Yes, I deny it. People who say the parties are comparable are stupid and uninformed. As someone who used to vote more Republican than Democrat - I can attest to that. They were once comparable up until Reagan - but no more. Reagan was an asshole who really started fucking the unrich - but he was a saint compared to the current satanist Republicans.

 

[John Shaw]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

Yes, I deny it. People who say the parties are comparable are stupid and uninformed. As someone who used to vote more Republican than Democrat - I can attest to that. They were once comparable up until Reagan - but no more. Reagan was an asshole who really started fucking the unrich - but he was a saint compared to the current satanist Republicans.

Yeah but you're partisan, so no one cares about your opinion.

 

[John Shaw]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

IMHO, I just cannot agree with that when manipulative, well-planned lies become the preferred tactic for winning an election on one side, and the other side bends over backward to do good deeds and who employ the good vibes of encouragement of the best in other people that makes the kind of leadership America has enjoyed from the time General George Washington bended his knee in prayer to God for helping him remove the pain of his fellow Americans being taxed tand ignored without any kind of representation or power to be heard, whatsoever.

What we say and do matters.

That’s what Republicans went for America. That’s why they practice voter suppression. Billionaires and millionaires use the GOP base to stay in power. And the way they do it is to scare them. Make them think brown people are coming to take their jobs and rape their daughters. People with no education believe that nonsense. And there you have it, Republicans.

You did not address what I said, deanrd. Nothing about the lies told when Justice Kavanaugh was being fried-on-an-open-pit by female Democrat Diane Feinstein orchestrated the biggest fibbiefest ever presented to a large audience of Americans. The trouble with speaking lies for so long, is the later checkup that determines very little of her presentation aimed at assassinating the character of a man who spent a lifetime working on doing a good job on the bench of the law, which he learned and practiced like no one else, with an aim to be the best jurist in America. President Trump was well advised to back him, although nobody on this planet except in the dark, hazy rooms of the dirty tricks girls and boys of the Democrat demolition committee dreamt up this huge prank with the goal of having parties after they successfully made most of the people in the world think badly of everyone concerned with Justice in America. Only they went a little too far into theatrics that just couldn't overcome the speaker's body language that was all too consistent with the body language of someone not telling the truth. And certainly sure enough, Dr. Ford's harsh and untrue allegations were exposed word for word in less than 24 hours after the Democrats tried to destroy the Supreme Court's reputation with idle and falsified mumblings about an innocent man being hammered for things too shameful to think about. You're ignoring the fact that American citizens do not agree that lying isn't important. It is important, and it does matter to Americans that leadership bears the truth to the public. When they don't tell the truth, politicians are shooting themselves in the foot, and just how little Americans appreciated being blantly fooled with will become a lot clearer to you in just about three weeks from now on election day. I think the DNC will go down in flames, and I hope this country is not exposed to lies for the duration.

How can you believe Kavanaugh was telling the truth?
If he were telling the truth he would’ve done anything to prove it. Even lie detector test.

"How can you believe Kavanaugh was telling the truth?"​

Because a man is innocent until he is proven guilty. Nothing said proved him guilty.

"If he were telling the truth he would’ve done anything to prove it. Even lie detector test."

First, you forget, he is innocent until his accuser proves him guilty. She brought nothing to the table that would convict that innocent man.
​

Lie detector tests are bullshit anyway. All it tells you is how calm the person is. That's it. You can be telling the truth yet extremely nervous. You can also lie your ass off with total serenity. That's why so many criminals are able to pass lie detector tests no problem; they are better liars than your average Joe.

 

[Lakhota]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

Yes, I deny it. People who say the parties are comparable are stupid and uninformed. As someone who used to vote more Republican than Democrat - I can attest to that. They were once comparable up until Reagan - but no more. Reagan was an asshole who really started fucking the unrich - but he was a saint compared to the current satanist Republicans.

Yeah but you're partisan, so no one cares about your opinion.

And you're only 28 and naive - otherwise you'd never have started such a thread. Educate yourself. Are you blind to everything going on around us politically since Trump was elected?

 

[Leo123]

Now that is funny!! A laundry list of overblown, tried and failed Democrat-tactic talking points.

Nice dodge.

Thanks, I used to have a nice Dodge (Hemi-head, V-8) but don't own one anymore. Next time try posting something that isn't from Daily Kos.

 

[flacaltenn]

Does anyone still deny this? They have minor differences, but your life is not going to change much no matter which of these shitters is in power. People who get all worked up over partisan politics crack me up.

That’s why this new Party is kicking the worlds ass.
Get on board or get run over.
Vote TrumpServative!

The parties ARE the tyranny the Founders worried about. And you don't NEED more parties to replace them. What you need right now is about a DOZEN INDEPENDENT voices on Capitol Hill to speak freely and vote freely and CALL OUT the horseshit when they see it. Start dismantling the "rules" that the PARTY BOSSES created to make Congress their own.

Demand professionalism and independent thought. Vote for REAL winners. Don't vote to just win. That just never gets things better.