Breaking — McCloskeys charged with felony by Kim Gardner…

[pknopp]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

If they meant no harm, why mayor had armed police guarding the place?

I went to a protest at the local school board last month. No one did any harm nor did anyone intend on doing any harm. The board still had armed police there.

Great, these "peaceful protesters" didn't intend any harm, you say. Why is the problem if property owner show up with a gun?

Have you read anything I've wrote?

Of course I did. Armed police were there in case peaceful protest turns ugly.

Now, did you read what I wrote? Property owner armed himself for the same reason.

Who in the right mind would break into private property just to "protest".

Thats been answered. They went to protest in front of the mayor's house.

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

That is true. However ... this ...

... is not simply standing standing there. That's 4th degree felony assault according to Missouri law.

Who exactly was assaulted?

The protesters.

You mean those thugs that broke into their property while beating drums and yelling at them?

You forgot to say they were "peaceful".

The McCloskeys threatened the protesters first. That's why they were charged.

What do you mean "McCloskeys threatened the protesters first"?

Where were the "protesters" when McCloskeys threatened them?

 

[Faun]

They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.

She has to prove first that they break the law.

Easy.

Care to explain what law did they break?

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Assault in the fourth degree.

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1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

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(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

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How does that NOT apply to the trespassers?

You can't threaten someone's life for committing a misdemeanor.

 

[Faun]

When the event happened I was loudly and roundly criticized for saying that the McCloskey's were idiots. I said that they had acted stupidly from a strategic standpoint, a tactical standpoint, and possibly a legal standpoint. Waving the bang stick around tends to get charges filed. I pointed out that in Georgia, they would have been arrested same day for Aggravated Assault.

I was told that they were heroes, and deserved our admiration. I was right about the Strategic, and right about the Tactical, and now I have been proven right by the filing of charges on the legal issue.

Now what should they have done? Gone inside and called the police, and then kept their weapons at hand INSIDE the house. If the trespassers threatening violence had tried to enter the house, then you can shoot them legally. You have a leg to stand on, you are defending yourself in your home. Self Defense comes into play, and if like me you have USCCA insurance than they'll pay for your legal defense. However, if you are out in the yard waving the bang stick around in violation of the law, even if it is a chicken shit charge, chances are that USCCA will try to weasel out of paying saying you were committing a crime.

People need to be smart when it comes to guns, and these idiots were not. Now they have the expense of a legal defense, and their ability to purchase firearms in the foreseeable future is in jeopardy. If anyone lends them or sells them a gun privately, they will be committing a federal felony. Fine if they want more legal problems.

They're alive aren't they? Their property wasn't destroyed, right? The goons entered a private area after breaking down the gate, huh?

Rethink your thinking dope

They had every fucking right....every fucking right

Their property wouldn't have been destroyed even had they not threatened anyone with lethal weapons.

Your fellow goons broke a gate and trespassed, asshole.

Sit your dumbass down and stfu

LOL

Watch as they get convicted by a jury of their peers. ..... (unless they take a plea bargain)

 

[pknopp]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

That is true. However ... this ...

... is not simply standing standing there. That's 4th degree felony assault according to Missouri law.

Who exactly was assaulted?

The protesters.

You mean those thugs that broke into their property while beating drums and yelling at them?

You forgot to say they were "peaceful".

The McCloskeys threatened the protesters first. That's why they were charged.

What do you mean "McCloskeys threatened the protesters first"?

Where were the "protesters" when McCloskeys threatened them?

Walking down the street.

 

[Faun]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

And that makes trespassing okay?

No, it doesn't. Nor did I say it did.

 

[Ame®icano]

They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.

She has to prove first that they break the law.

Easy.

Care to explain what law did they break?

​

​

Assault in the fourth degree.

​

1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

​

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

​

​

Uhm-um...

Sooooo. how many "protesters" were charged with felony for breaking into private property and apprehended the property owners with their presence?

 

[Faun]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

That is true. However ... this ...

... is not simply standing standing there. That's 4th degree felony assault according to Missouri law.

Who exactly was assaulted?

The protesters.

You mean those thugs that broke into their property while beating drums and yelling at them?

You forgot to say they were "peaceful".

The McCloskeys threatened the protesters first. That's why they were charged.

What do you mean "McCloskeys threatened the protesters first"?

Where were the "protesters" when McCloskeys threatened them?

Mark McCloskey admitted he pulled his gun out before there was a threat. Bitch to him.

 

[freyasman]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

That is true. However ... this ...

... is not simply standing standing there. That's 4th degree felony assault according to Missouri law.

Who exactly was assaulted?

The protesters.

You mean those thugs that broke into their property while beating drums and yelling at them?

You forgot to say they were "peaceful".

The McCloskeys threatened the protesters first. That's why they were charged.

No, that ain't why.

Had they not initiated the threat -- they wouldn't have been charged.

They were charged for refusing to cower and for illustrating how easily a whole mob can be backed down by a pair of armed senior citizens.




The SJWs don't like it when you show the world how gutless they really are.

 

[Faun]

They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.

She has to prove first that they break the law.

Easy.

Care to explain what law did they break?

​

​

Assault in the fourth degree.

​

1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

​

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

​

​

Uhm-um...

Sooooo. how many "protesters" were charged with felony for breaking into private property and apprehended the property owners with their presence?

None since trespassing is a class B misdemeanor in Missouri, not a felony. Are you always this melodramatic?

 

[Faun]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

That is true. However ... this ...

... is not simply standing standing there. That's 4th degree felony assault according to Missouri law.

Who exactly was assaulted?

The protesters.

You mean those thugs that broke into their property while beating drums and yelling at them?

You forgot to say they were "peaceful".

The McCloskeys threatened the protesters first. That's why they were charged.

No, that ain't why.

Had they not initiated the threat -- they wouldn't have been charged.

They were charged for refusing to cower and for illustrating how easily a whole mob can be backed down by a pair of armed senior citizens.




The SJWs don't like it when you show the world how gutless they really are.

LOLOL

Wrong.

 

[freyasman]

They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.

She has to prove first that they break the law.

Easy.

Care to explain what law did they break?

​

​

Assault in the fourth degree.

​

1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

​

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

​

​

How does that NOT apply to the trespassers?

You can't threaten someone's life for committing a misdemeanor.

Again, it depends on the totality of the circumstances. And under the circumstances, it was a pretty reasonable reaction.

 

[Ame®icano]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So instead of turning around and finding alternative public route, they chose to break and cut thru private property, all while yelling and beating drums.

Why would anyone be scared of anything harmless like that, really?

 

[Faun]

They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.

She has to prove first that they break the law.

Easy.

Care to explain what law did they break?

​

​

Assault in the fourth degree.

​

1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

​

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

​

​

How does that NOT apply to the trespassers?

You can't threaten someone's life for committing a misdemeanor.

Again, it depends on the totality of the circumstances. And under the circumstances, it was a pretty reasonable reaction.

We'll see.

 

[Faun]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So instead of turning around and finding alternative public route, they chose to break and cut thru private property, all while yelling and beating drums.

Why would anyone be scared of anything harmless like that, really?

LOL

Yelling and beating drums is not reason to pull guns on them.

 

[freyasman]

No

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

That is true. However ... this ...

... is not simply standing standing there. That's 4th degree felony assault according to Missouri law.

Who exactly was assaulted?

The protesters.

You mean those thugs that broke into their property while beating drums and yelling at them?

You forgot to say they were "peaceful".

The McCloskeys threatened the protesters first. That's why they were charged.

No, that ain't why.

Had they not initiated the threat -- they wouldn't have been charged.

They were charged for refusing to cower and for illustrating how easily a whole mob can be backed down by a pair of armed senior citizens.




The SJWs don't like it when you show the world how gutless they really are.

LOLOL

Wrong.

No, I don't think so.
And I'm not the only one who thinks that either. The Governor and the state attorney general seem to feel the same way.

 

[Ame®icano]

They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.

She has to prove first that they break the law.

Easy.

Care to explain what law did they break?

​

​

Assault in the fourth degree.

​

1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

​

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

​

​

Uhm-um...

Sooooo. how many "protesters" were charged with felony for breaking into private property and apprehended the property owners with their presence?

None since trespassing is a class B misdemeanor in Missouri, not a felony. Are you always this melodramatic?

Oh, now they were "trespassing". I mean, there is a screaming mob, beating drums, breaking into property, and there is no reason to worry at all?
Why would McCloskeys even feel threatened to pull the guns out? No reason at all.

 

[freyasman]

They want someone to open fire on them so they can use it for propaganda purposes.

 

[Ame®icano]

They are charged with a felony so the government can confiscate their firearms.

She has to prove first that they break the law.

Easy.

Care to explain what law did they break?

​

​

Assault in the fourth degree.

​

1. A person commits the offense of assault in the fourth degree if: ​

​

(3) The person purposely places another person in apprehension of immediate physical injury;​

​

​

How does that NOT apply to the trespassers?

You can't threaten someone's life for committing a misdemeanor.

Again, it depends on the totality of the circumstances. And under the circumstances, it was a pretty reasonable reaction.

Oh dude, come on. You see hundred screaming people, beating drums, getting thru your gate, and you would worry?

It's not like peaceful protesters burned cities, police stations, and looted stores just days before...

 

[Dale Smith]

I don't see how she can get a conviction. They may have been way overly paranoid but that isn't illegal.

So if someone down the street from you was killed in mob violence recently and now, you have mob violence at your door, you gonna risk this is a nice mob that tore down your gate?

Those marching to the mayor's house were clear they meant no one harm. As I noted though, you can legally stand outside your house with a gun.

Yes, but you can't threaten others with a gun who are not threatening you.

You can stand there and tell people to stay off your property.

Right, and they will just leave, right?

By the way, what they were doing on the private property anyways?

I saw people marching to the mayor's house to protest in front of his house.

The mayor lived Blocks away the other direction

The protesters said they took the route they chose because the city had blocked streets.

So they break into a gated community that they did not have permission to be on to take a shortcut? That makes it fine and dandy, lil faun? 200 to 300 hundred angry SJWs that have already proven that they are prone to violence, the police given stand down orders to let this collection of human garbage to rampage sans consequences. Leftard pussbags like yourself seem to believe that they should huddle in their home and hope these thugs don't start ripping shit up and knocking out windows. I also heard the trash talking these alleged "peaceful protestors" were spewing. Vulgar, threatening and intimidating. It doesn't appear to me that these commie fucks were afraid in the slightest,....apprehensive because they are cowards at heart, but they were not "fearful". I wouldn't have shed a tear if McCloskey had emptied his entire arsenal on these thugs.