Breaking News: Restaurants Closing All Over Seattle As $15 Minimum Wage Mandate Starts April 1st.

[DrDoomNGloom]

You might want to try reading the posts you're responding to.

I read the post, you have my sentiment ...................

CEO"s deserve every penny they get, can you fucking understand that??

 

[sealybobo]

Slave mentality. Unless you are a CEO?

Uneducated Bitch mentality ........................

You'd be a $5 a day field bitch if not for us liberals.

Or maybe you see yourself more like a field foreman than a cotton picker. Either way youre a slave.

 

[sealybobo]

What does the GOP worship more capitalism or god? Gods second fiddle.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

You'd be a $5 a day field bitch if not for us liberals.

Or maybe you see yourself more like a field foreman than a cotton picker. Either way youre a slave.

You are a two bit faggot whore .................
The only bitch in this conversation is your ignorant n*gger ass ..................

When you started acting like a cock sucking bitch, hurling insults instead of discussing the topic, we all knew it ...................

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

What does the GOP worship more capitalism or god? Gods second fiddle.

And the problem with worshiping God , would be??

The only ones chasing the almighty dollar are the libtards with no skills .................I would say they are the ones seeking false Gods .......................

But you are an ignorant faggot bitch who is clueless ...............................

 

[dblack]

OK
Now I get it. DrGloomNDoom is a liberal parody of conservatives. Funny stuff.

 

[Cecilie1200]

But it isn't the government's purpose to dictate wages for private companies.

Governments been doing that for quite some time. Why don't the Republicans in Congress (you all do control Congress you know) eliminate the MW. Right now why don't they do that?

Because they're just as corrupt and useless as the Democrats.

Why don't you respect Democracy and the voters of this part of the country?

The same reason we wouldn't respect Democracy and voters anywhere that violate reasonable limits on government power. Do you get that? Limits on government are limits on Democracy. There's only so much the majority can force on the minority by voting.

This sort of crap is EXACTLY why the Founding Fathers didn't go with a democracy: so that there would be a buffer of protection between people's rights and halfwit, uninformed do-gooders misusing the power of government simply because they got bullshitted by slick propaganda.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Ah, gives me a headache. Celebrating American Workers making less than counterparts made 30-40 years ago? WTF?? Seriously, sometimes i get very ashamed of my Republican friends.

Don't get too comfortable with the idea that any of us are your friends, Chuckles. Most of us have standards. And I feel safe in saying none of us really gives a rat's ass for your approval or disapproval.

I didn't say you were my friend. You're not. And i don't give a rat's ass that you don't give a rat's ass. Capisce.

Clearly you DO, since you're wasting time and space babbling about your "shame" in regards to other people. You're doing that because you're hoping to make people feel bad. And I'm clarifying for you that you don't command enough respect from anyone to make that maneuver work.

Glad I could clear that up for you. You seem to have a recurring problem with thinking you're doing and being one thing while the opposite is obviously true.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What you're not getting is that they also love it when government dictates our economic decisions because they know they can control it.

Most Republicans i know, have no problem with businesses lobbying Government for handouts. So they like Big Government interference just fine. But only if it benefits them. When it comes to Workers wanting a piece of the pie, they're all about "Government should stay out of it!!"

Seriously, i really am ashamed of my Republican friends on issues like this. Their greed and hypocrisy is pretty embarrassing.

You said that already. If you can't address the points I'm raising, please don't quote my posts.

I did address it. You're just fine with Big Government interference in business if it benefits you. Otherwise, you're all "Government should stay out of it!!" Such high & mighty hypocrisy. Shame on ya.

Actually, I'm neutral on the subject of my city and county actively trying to convince businesses to move here. They can or not, as they choose. But yes, I think IF they are going to do so, it's completely appropriate for the businesses to negotiate for tax incentives in exchange for what the city/county wants. I also think business owners have the same right to petition government as every other citizen does. There's no equivalency between that and government high-handedly dealing itself into business decisions.

You don't get to have it both ways. You beg for handouts, you have to accept Government being involved. Period, end of story.

Sorry, Sparkles, but your logic is not only based on a faulty premise, it's also built with substandard materials. I wouldn't get too comfy in that metaphorical house, if you catch my drift.

 

[Cecilie1200]

exactly how is assembling foreign cars in the USA outsourcing? and you are totally full of shit claiming that they make less than UAW workers made 30-40 years ago. that is one of your most stupid claims ever.

I've seen this before. Don't expect any change.

the guy calls himself paulitician, but he is a raving liberal. But liberal lying has been documented many times already.

I am 'Liberal' on some issues. But so what? Not everything Liberal is 'Bad.' Doing what's right is far more important than being obsessed with adhering to a rigid inflexible Political Ideology.

If there is any occasion in which you think the government should micro-manage economic issues, you need to hand in your Ron Paul Fan Club membership card, because you're a hypocrite.

I don't agree with Dr. Paul on everything.

I don't either, but in your case, you should go ahead and do so, because independent thinking clearly is not your strong suit. You'd be infinitely better off if you let Dr. Paul do your thinking for you.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You said that already. If you can't address the points I'm raising, please don't quote my posts.

I did address it. You're just fine with Big Government interference in business if it benefits you. Otherwise, you're all "Government should stay out of it!!" Such high & mighty hypocrisy. Shame on ya.

Actually, I'm neutral on the subject of my city and county actively trying to convince businesses to move here. They can or not, as they choose. But yes, I think IF they are going to do so, it's completely appropriate for the businesses to negotiate for tax incentives in exchange for what the city/county wants. I also think business owners have the same right to petition government as every other citizen does. There's no equivalency between that and government high-handedly dealing itself into business decisions.

You don't get to have it both ways. You beg for handouts, you have to accept Government being involved. Period, end of story.

Or insist such a dead end game cease for all.

Good luck with that. Businesses will always try to game the Government. They only pretend to hate Big Government when it comes to paying Workers. Pretty convenient hypocrisy, no?

Not that I would expect you to have the gray matter to comprehend this, but there's a big difference between loving Big Government and merely working with the system as it is because there's no other choice.

 

[Ame®icano]

Still no explanation what livable wage is. Anyone?

 

[Skull Pilot]

And I've told you that it's up to you to earn what you need to pay your bills. If your no skill job isn't paying you enough then you can get a second job or learn a skill that will warrant higher pay

Ah, that's a dodge. Just try and put a number on what an average American needs to make to survive in today's America. I'll make it easier for ya. I'll throw out a few numbers. I'll go with $11 - $15 an hr.

It's not a dodge because there is no one answer.

And if people need 600 a week gross as you say then they are free to earn that much. Where is it written that only one job is all people should ever need to pay their bills?

Wrong. there is a number. Numerous studies have been conducted on the subject. I go with something like $11 - $15 an hr. as a possible survivable wage. How bout you?

How about me?

If I couldn't survive on one job I worked 2 or 3

When I was young I shared an apt with 4 other guys. I lived on 5 for a dollar Ramen soups for months on end

IOW I did what I had to do to pay my bills I find that in general putting your head down and hustling gets far better results than whining.

So you needed and got help from 4 people. So you didn't do it all by yourself.

What?

Those roommates didn't help me we shared an apartment that's all.

 

[Skull Pilot]

It's not a dodge because there is no one answer.

And if people need 600 a week gross as you say then they are free to earn that much. Where is it written that only one job is all people should ever need to pay their bills?

Wrong. there is a number. Numerous studies have been conducted on the subject. I go with something like $11 - $15 an hr. as a possible survivable wage. How bout you?

How about me?

If I couldn't survive on one job I worked 2 or 3

When I was young I shared an apt with 4 other guys. I lived on 5 for a dollar Ramen soups for months on end

IOW I did what I had to do to pay my bills I find that in general putting your head down and hustling gets far better results than whining.

So $5 an hr. is a decent livable wage to you? Ok. At least you answered the question. Gotta give you some props for that i guess.

It doesn't matter what your starting wage is.

A career is a ladder not a bed. The times I worked for MW in the past I was never more than 6 months away from a pay raise or a promotion because I didn't think being a bag boy or a stock clerk was a job that would support me


I'm sorry but if you're still making MW after 20 years on a job then it's your own fault not your employer's

In america today no one lasts 20 years at a company. And if you build cars or forged steal for 19 years and all those jobs left your town you might end up working at walmart.

We just got to make sure our government looks out for the middle class so we dont all become the working poor.

I will never have to work at Walmart

 

[Wyatt earp]

They do get paid they just get paid in accordance with the job

If they want more money then they should make themselves more valuable to their employer

The reason they get paid MW is because any moron off the street can do what they do

What do you do? I'm OK with people making minimum as long as its a fair wage. Can't trust owners so the gov decides that number.

Define fair

I've asked you guys for a long time to put a number on what you think is a decent livable wage for average American Workers in today's America. You guys always duck & run. What do you think an average American can survive on today? Take a shot, throw a number out there.

And I've told you that it's up to you to earn what you need to pay your bills. If your no skill job isn't paying you enough then you can get a second job or learn a skill that will warrant higher pay

Heres all we're saying. Between 1950 and 2000 we had high paying manufacturing union labor middle class jobs. We allowed all those jobs to go to China mexico and everywhere else. I know that benefitted the rich and the rest of the world but it didn't help america.

Our gov has a responsibility to look out for the masses. If not capitalism will have us grateful for $5 a day.

For one anyone who works for a company for 19 years doing the same job and not into management at that company, the only finger he can point at is him self if that company closes up.

For two you are right "we allowed those Companies to leave by us shopping at big box stores were they pay crap wages and sell shitty products, "we allowed them to leave" by us consumers not buying from local mom and pop stores that payed good wages and sold good products, yea you are right it is our fault.

For three we still have a shit load of manufacturing jobs left that pay good wages, I got my taxes done yesterday and surprise to me I made over 70 grand last year, with OT. And I live in a right to work state South Carolina,

 

[zeke]

Still no explanation what livable wage is. Anyone?

You right wingers sure are confused about this number aren't ya?
A "livable wage" is earnings great enough that the worker does not qualify for direct government assistance ( SNAP, housing allowance, heat allowance etc) at any level.

The other number is "poverty wages". Those people earn so little they do qualify for all those government benefits,
Those people do not make a "livable wage".

Hope that helps you.

 

[Wyatt earp]

They do get paid they just get paid in accordance with the job

If they want more money then they should make themselves more valuable to their employer

The reason they get paid MW is because any moron off the street can do what they do

What do you do? I'm OK with people making minimum as long as its a fair wage. Can't trust owners so the gov decides that number.

Define fair

I've asked you guys for a long time to put a number on what you think is a decent livable wage for average American Workers in today's America. You guys always duck & run. What do you think an average American can survive on today? Take a shot, throw a number out there.

And I've told you that it's up to you to earn what you need to pay your bills. If your no skill job isn't paying you enough then you can get a second job or learn a skill that will warrant higher pay

Heres all we're saying. Between 1950 and 2000 we had high paying manufacturing union labor middle class jobs. We allowed all those jobs to go to China mexico and everywhere else. I know that benefitted the rich and the rest of the world but it didn't help america.

Our gov has a responsibility to look out for the masses. If not capitalism will have us grateful for $5 a day.

Still no explanation what livable wage is. Anyone?

It is then same type of question liberals will never answer like:

When discussing then school system:

How much money do The schools need?

The poor have smart cell phones, 50 inch T.V.s , a/c but for some reason god only knows they can not get any ID to vote.

They think in there strange minds they can force the higher labor cost On to the stockholders or CEOs

 

[zeke]

For one anyone who works for a company for 19 years doing the same job and not into management at that company, the only finger he can point at is him self if that company closes up.

That is such a weird idea that maybe you could elaborate on it?

 

[zeke]

It is then same type of question liberals will never answer like:

I just answered it dude. You sure about "never"?

 

[zeke]

The poor have smart cell phones, 50 inch T.V.s , a/c but for some reason god only knows they can not get any ID to vote.

They think in there strange minds they can force the higher labor cost On to the stockholders or CEOs

Have you been snorting to much plastic injection molding material?