Breaking: North Charleston cop about to go free!!!

[JakeStarkey]

You will lose this one, bucs90. He is going to plead out to voluntary manslaughter.

 

[Skylar]

The video says it all. Scott was running away before Slager drew and fired . . . eight times. He is going to prison. Graham vs. Connor is not an absolute blanket of immunity to kill an unarmed man running away with his back to the officer.

Dropping the tazer net to the lifeless body is clearly a suspcious movement by the officer, as if he has something to hide. He is making it appear that Scott was running with the Tazer. He knew Scott did not have the Tazer.

I understand bad cops convicted of bad crimes in South Carolina go into the general population at prison.

Untrue.

Actually it's in the video.

Which part?

The part where he drops the taser next to the guy he just shot in the back.

Yep. As trained...he gathered all loose equipment.

You saw a taser being planted (then picked back up).

You've got your order backward. Slager picks something up on his way to the down suspect. Then drops it beside the suspect.

In the indictment, the prosecuters allege that was the taser. If Slager's account was correct he wouldn't need to move the taser closer to the victim he just shot.

Worse, Slager never alleges that the taser was used against him, as his defense attorney claims. There's no mention of this in any incident report. Slager instead claims that he feared it would be. Nor were there any injuries reported for Slager consistent with the use of a taser. Nor were there any fingerprints from Scott on the taser.

The defense attorney made up the claim that a taser had been used on Slager out of whole cloth. Based on nothing.

 

[bucs90]

You will lose this one, bucs90. He is going to plead out to voluntary manslaughter.

NOPE.

He won't be offered it. The solicitor can't politically afford such a plea deal. Half the nation wants blood (lefties). She won't dare offer him a plea deal. She'll be plastered on worldwide news as a racist who let a murderer off easy. She'll lose her elected office. Career over.

She has to go for broke. And she doesn't have a murder case. But she can't offer a plea.

He's going to be found not guilty.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not a good chance at all.

Bet. The loser buys a hand gun for the winner. We place our orders with a third party. Top price $500.

addendum: actually we should buy a zip gun for Slager, cause he is going to need it in the slammer.

 

[bucs90]

Untrue.

Actually it's in the video.

Which part?

The part where he drops the taser next to the guy he just shot in the back.

Yep. As trained...he gathered all loose equipment.

You saw a taser being planted (then picked back up).

You've got your order backward. Slager picks something up on his way to the down suspect. Then drops it beside the suspect.

In the indictment, the prosecuters allege that was the taser. If Slager's account was correct he wouldn't need to move the taser closer to the victim he just shot.

Worse, Slager never alleges that the taser was used against him, as his defense attorney claims. There's no mention of this in any incident report. Slager instead claims that he feared it would be. Nor were there any injuries reported for Slager consistent with the use of a taser. Nor were there any fingerprints from Scott on the taser.

The defense attorney made up the claim that a taser had been used on Slager out of whole cloth. Based on nothing.

You're misunderstanding a lot. Slager's report was vague in many areas. Common for people just removed from a traumatic experience. His lawyer is now offering the info to fill those gaps.

Andy Savage is famous down here. One of the top defense attorneys in the entire South. Cops actually despise him as a legal opponent because he's so good.

He is NOT as sloppy as your assertion would suggest.

 

[bucs90]

Not a good chance at all.

Bet. The loser buys a hand gun for the winner. We place our orders with a third party. Top price $500.

addendum: actually we should buy a zip gun for Slager, cause he is going to need it in the slammer.

What's the bet? A murder conviction? Or a plea deal? I live in Charleston. This town is flooded with lawyers. It's very common knowledge here that prosecutor Scarlett Wilson is not...and CAN NOT...do a plea deal. Rumors are it's come down from the governors office that this case WILL go to trial short of a full guilty plea.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Not a good chance at all.

Bet. The loser buys a hand gun for the winner. We place our orders with a third party. Top price $500.

addendum: actually we should buy a zip gun for Slager, cause he is going to need it in the slammer.

What's the bet? A murder conviction? Or a plea deal? I live in Charleston. This town is flooded with lawyers. It's very common knowledge here that prosecutor Scarlett Wilson is not...and CAN NOT...do a plea deal. Rumors are it's come down from the governors office that this case WILL go to trial short of a full guilty plea.

Conviction and jail time of a least a year and a day, though I think he will get at least eight on a plea deal.

 

[Skylar]

Actually it's in the video.

Which part?

The part where he drops the taser next to the guy he just shot in the back.

Yep. As trained...he gathered all loose equipment.

You saw a taser being planted (then picked back up).

You've got your order backward. Slager picks something up on his way to the down suspect. Then drops it beside the suspect.

In the indictment, the prosecuters allege that was the taser. If Slager's account was correct he wouldn't need to move the taser closer to the victim he just shot.

Worse, Slager never alleges that the taser was used against him, as his defense attorney claims. There's no mention of this in any incident report. Slager instead claims that he feared it would be. Nor were there any injuries reported for Slager consistent with the use of a taser. Nor were there any fingerprints from Scott on the taser.

The defense attorney made up the claim that a taser had been used on Slager out of whole cloth. Based on nothing.

You're misunderstanding a lot. Slager's report was vague in many areas. Common for people just removed from a traumatic experience. His lawyer is now offering the info to fill those gaps

Its not vague at all regarding Slager being tasered. There is zero mention of it by anyone, at any time. Not from slager, not from any responding officer, there is no mention of it in any dispatch recording, despite 30 minutes of it. There's no mention of it in any incident report. There's no mention of any injury consistent with being hit with a taser at any time.

There is absolutely *nothing* backing up that narrative. The defense attorney pulled it sideways out of his ass.

 

[bucs90]

Not a good chance at all.

Bet. The loser buys a hand gun for the winner. We place our orders with a third party. Top price $500.

addendum: actually we should buy a zip gun for Slager, cause he is going to need it in the slammer.

What's the bet? A murder conviction? Or a plea deal? I live in Charleston. This town is flooded with lawyers. It's very common knowledge here that prosecutor Scarlett Wilson is not...and CAN NOT...do a plea deal. Rumors are it's come down from the governors office that this case WILL go to trial short of a full guilty plea.

Conviction and jail time of a least a year and a day, though I think he will get at least eight on a plea deal.

Hmmm. Interesting. Word around here with the lawyer lunch crowd at my local Mozzos deli is the prosecutors office is stressed the fu** out because they're certain they have no chance at a murder conviction....but political directives from Columbia are saying there will NOT BE any plea deals unless it's a guilty plea for murder...which obviously isn't happening.

Now...he could be found not guilty of murder...but guilty of misconduct in office as a sacrificial lamb charge.

But I'm interested. Will you give me til October 1st to decide on this bet?

 

[bucs90]

Which part?

The part where he drops the taser next to the guy he just shot in the back.

Yep. As trained...he gathered all loose equipment.

You saw a taser being planted (then picked back up).

You've got your order backward. Slager picks something up on his way to the down suspect. Then drops it beside the suspect.

In the indictment, the prosecuters allege that was the taser. If Slager's account was correct he wouldn't need to move the taser closer to the victim he just shot.

Worse, Slager never alleges that the taser was used against him, as his defense attorney claims. There's no mention of this in any incident report. Slager instead claims that he feared it would be. Nor were there any injuries reported for Slager consistent with the use of a taser. Nor were there any fingerprints from Scott on the taser.

The defense attorney made up the claim that a taser had been used on Slager out of whole cloth. Based on nothing.

You're misunderstanding a lot. Slager's report was vague in many areas. Common for people just removed from a traumatic experience. His lawyer is now offering the info to fill those gaps

Its not vague at all regarding Slager being tasered. There is zero mention of it by anyone, at any time. Not from slager, not from any responding officer, there is no mention of it in any dispatch recording, despite 30 minutes of it. There's no mention of it in any incident report. There's no mention of any injury consistent with being hit with a taser at any time.

There is absolutely *nothing* backing up that narrative. The defense attorney pulled it sideways out of his ass.

There was also not mention of a cell phone video in the report. But that happened.

As defense attorney Andy Savage said as he smiled strolling down a Charleston sidewalk from lunch last week..."It's gonna be a fun day in court!"

 

[easyt65]

So we may have another cop getting away with cold blooded murder. Isn't that always the case?

1. He has not been released yet.

2. In our justice system all that is required is 'REASONABLE DOUBT'. You want to blame someone, blame the Justice System, not the cops here.

3. AGAIN, you don't want to get shot?
- Don't Break the law.
- DON'T resist arrest
- Don't Fight a cop
- DON'T take away a cop's weapon
- DON'T aim a weapon at a cop
- DON'T run after you have fought a cop, taken his weapon, and aimed it at him (You have just proven that if you are crazy enough to do all that you are an extreme danger to the community)

I am NOT defending the policeman. I am NOT saying the shooting was OK. I am JUST making observations!

 

[Skylar]

The part where he drops the taser next to the guy he just shot in the back.

Yep. As trained...he gathered all loose equipment.

You saw a taser being planted (then picked back up).

You've got your order backward. Slager picks something up on his way to the down suspect. Then drops it beside the suspect.

In the indictment, the prosecuters allege that was the taser. If Slager's account was correct he wouldn't need to move the taser closer to the victim he just shot.

Worse, Slager never alleges that the taser was used against him, as his defense attorney claims. There's no mention of this in any incident report. Slager instead claims that he feared it would be. Nor were there any injuries reported for Slager consistent with the use of a taser. Nor were there any fingerprints from Scott on the taser.

The defense attorney made up the claim that a taser had been used on Slager out of whole cloth. Based on nothing.

You're misunderstanding a lot. Slager's report was vague in many areas. Common for people just removed from a traumatic experience. His lawyer is now offering the info to fill those gaps

Its not vague at all regarding Slager being tasered. There is zero mention of it by anyone, at any time. Not from slager, not from any responding officer, there is no mention of it in any dispatch recording, despite 30 minutes of it. There's no mention of it in any incident report. There's no mention of any injury consistent with being hit with a taser at any time.

There is absolutely *nothing* backing up that narrative. The defense attorney pulled it sideways out of his ass.

There was also not mention of a cell phone video in the report. But that happened.

Says who? Not Slager. Not any responding officer. Not any incident report. Not any injury report. Slager instead says he was *afraid* that the taser would be used against him. Not that any such weapon was used against him.

There's nothing to back the claim that Slager was tasered. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

As defense attorney Andy Savage said as he smiled strolling down a Charleston sidewalk from lunch last week..."It's gonna be a fun day in court!"

We'll see. Savage's account might as well include a unicorn farting glitter for as much evidence backs his narrative. And it doesn't explain this in the slightest:

That's gonna be a hard sell for 'fearing for one's life'. The taser is at the officer's feet. He shoots Scott, picks it up and drops it near Scott's body.

Scott's fingerprints aren't on the taser. Which is a virtual impossibility in Slager's account.

 

[MikeK]

We'll see. Savage's account might as well include a unicorn farting glitter for as much evidence backs his narrative. And it doesn't explain this in the slightest:

That's gonna be a hard sell for 'fearing for one's life'. The taser is at the officer's feet. He shoots Scott, picks it up and drops it near Scott's body.

Scott's fingerprints aren't on the taser. Which is a virtual impossibility in Slager's account.

Your reasoning is pure and logical. But I think we both know the outcome of this case will depend entirely on the social orientation and racial makeup of the jury. Right now everything is hinged on how well Savage does during the voir dire, which is the process of selecting jurors -- and which is an important measure of a trial lawyer's skill -- e.g., the O.J. Simpson verdict, which was an obvious nullification based on racial prejudice.

If Savage can avoid seating White local business owners and other Whites who have special cause to fear a riot, and if he can get the right kind of Blacks (determined by his instincts) seated, he can get an acquittal, because the innate ability to detect who is the right kind of juror is one of the most important skills of a trial lawyer. (The late William M. Kunstler (New York City) was exceptionally skillful at picking jurors).

 

[MikeK]

You're misunderstanding a lot. Slager's report was vague in many areas. Common for people just removed from a traumatic experience.[...]

I think you're right and traumatic experience is the pivotal factor that will save him. If Slager is charged with First Degree Murder he will walk away.

 

[bucs90]

Yep. As trained...he gathered all loose equipment.

You saw a taser being planted (then picked back up).

You've got your order backward. Slager picks something up on his way to the down suspect. Then drops it beside the suspect.

In the indictment, the prosecuters allege that was the taser. If Slager's account was correct he wouldn't need to move the taser closer to the victim he just shot.

Worse, Slager never alleges that the taser was used against him, as his defense attorney claims. There's no mention of this in any incident report. Slager instead claims that he feared it would be. Nor were there any injuries reported for Slager consistent with the use of a taser. Nor were there any fingerprints from Scott on the taser.

The defense attorney made up the claim that a taser had been used on Slager out of whole cloth. Based on nothing.

You're misunderstanding a lot. Slager's report was vague in many areas. Common for people just removed from a traumatic experience. His lawyer is now offering the info to fill those gaps

Its not vague at all regarding Slager being tasered. There is zero mention of it by anyone, at any time. Not from slager, not from any responding officer, there is no mention of it in any dispatch recording, despite 30 minutes of it. There's no mention of it in any incident report. There's no mention of any injury consistent with being hit with a taser at any time.

There is absolutely *nothing* backing up that narrative. The defense attorney pulled it sideways out of his ass.

There was also not mention of a cell phone video in the report. But that happened.

Says who? Not Slager. Not any responding officer. Not any incident report. Not any injury report. Slager instead says he was *afraid* that the taser would be used against him. Not that any such weapon was used against him.

There's nothing to back the claim that Slager was tasered. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

As defense attorney Andy Savage said as he smiled strolling down a Charleston sidewalk from lunch last week..."It's gonna be a fun day in court!"

We'll see. Savage's account might as well include a unicorn farting glitter for as much evidence backs his narrative. And it doesn't explain this in the slightest:

That's gonna be a hard sell for 'fearing for one's life'. The taser is at the officer's feet. He shoots Scott, picks it up and drops it near Scott's body.

Scott's fingerprints aren't on the taser. Which is a virtual impossibility in Slager's account.

Attorney says Scott stood, pointed taser at Slager...pulled trigger twice...but since he didn't know how it works it didn't taze him. Sounds like he tried to.use a weapon on Slager.

Your little movement is gonna suffer a massive defeat here.

 

[bucs90]

You're misunderstanding a lot. Slager's report was vague in many areas. Common for people just removed from a traumatic experience.[...]

I think you're right and traumatic experience is the pivotal factor that will save him. If Slager is charged with First Degree Murder he will walk away.

Yes. The sympathetic nervous system does tricky things under stress. Memory gaps. Tunnel vision. Audio exclusion. The military calls it the "fog of war" but all humans have it under stress. It's why PDs often times allow 48 hours to pass before full interrogations. The adrenaline dump needs to pass. It's a lot of physiology that most people don't understand.

Slager...or anyone else under a traumatic experience...will remember details up to a week later sometimes. It's why some victims of violent crime fight back and win....then tell people how they don't even remember doing it. Under life or death stress....the body goes into sort of an auto pilot. Cops and military train for it...so they'll automatically react under stress a certain way.

 

[Jarlaxle]

The video says it all. Scott was running away before Slager drew and fired . . . eight times. He is going to prison. Graham vs. Connor is not an absolute blanket of immunity to kill an unarmed man running away with his back to the officer.

If he walks (and he might), then police truly have a licence to kill anyone, at any time, for any reason they want, in any manner that they choose.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Chuckling over the sad fact that cops will, as directed by their UNION bosses, will still vote for the liberals who jones to see them (the cops) dead.

Gives new meaning to the word "deserving"?

Most coppers vote Republican. They are hardly liberal.

But their unions give lots of money to Democrats!

 

[JakeStarkey]

The video says it all. Scott was running away before Slager drew and fired . . . eight times. He is going to prison. Graham vs. Connor is not an absolute blanket of immunity to kill an unarmed man running away with his back to the officer.

If he walks (and he might), then police truly have a licence to kill anyone, at any time, for any reason they want, in any manner that they choose.

If that were to happen, I imagine the leadership will order them forever after to travel two to a car.

 

[Jarlaxle]

You're misunderstanding a lot. Slager's report was vague in many areas. Common for people just removed from a traumatic experience.[...]

I think you're right and traumatic experience is the pivotal factor that will save him. If Slager is charged with First Degree Murder he will walk away.

Jury should have the options of 2nd degree murder and voluntary manslaughter.