Sunni Man
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What???We might now have a modern Democrat Party had be been successful in that effort.
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What???We might now have a modern Democrat Party had be been successful in that effort.
While I'm at what?You might want to look up Joe Kennedy while you're at it.
and what for?
well .......
What???We might now have a modern Democrat Party had be been successful in that effort.![]()
Oh, I seeWhat???We might now have a modern Democrat Party had be been successful in that effort.![]()
I consider The Modern Dem Party to be nothing more than the Soviet Shock Army and is probably inflicting more damage on our economy and civilization that even a Soviet Tank Army ever could
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Pat Buchanan is coming under fire for arguing that Hitler didnt want a European war, and that World War II could have been avoided if Poland had agreed to hand over Gdansk to Germany.
He even appears to have implied that the Holocaust wouldnt have happened if the Allied powers hadnt guaranteed Polands security. Buchanan wrote:
The German-Polish war (sic) had come out of a quarrel over a town the size of Ocean City, Md., in summer. Danzig, 95 percent German, had been severed from Germany at Versailles in violation of Woodrow Wilsons principle of self-determination. Even British leaders thought Danzig should be returned.
Why did Warsaw not negotiate with Berlin, which was hinting at an offer of compensatory territory in Slovakia? Because the Poles had a war guarantee from Britain that, should Germany attack, Britain and her empire would come to Polands rescue.
Buchanan followed his assertion that Poland could have prevented the war with an argument that Hitler was not interested in a broad war to conquer the world. -
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The Germans and particularly the Naziis saw themselves as defenders of Europe against Bolshivism.
Buchanan is completely wrong on this account. Hitler did not want war with England and France, his goal was to destroy Bolshivism and occupy Russia, Poland was in the way. Demanding the return of the "corridor" was just one step towards that goal. BTW Danzig was a "free city" and was used by Hitler as leverage against the Poles. Hitler saw England as a natural ally against Bolshivism and was suprised and disappointed when England declared war on Germany. As for the holocaust being stopped, I seriously doubt it, Hitler and the Naziis had taken Eugenics to the extreme ends.
Kinda shoots holes in your Hitler/Bush comparison.
the comparison that what Hitler was doing was for defence..... like Bush with Iraq?
The Germans and particularly the Naziis saw themselves as defenders of Europe against Bolshivism.
Buchanan is completely wrong on this account. Hitler did not want war with England and France, his goal was to destroy Bolshivism and occupy Russia, Poland was in the way. Demanding the return of the "corridor" was just one step towards that goal. BTW Danzig was a "free city" and was used by Hitler as leverage against the Poles. Hitler saw England as a natural ally against Bolshivism and was suprised and disappointed when England declared war on Germany. As for the holocaust being stopped, I seriously doubt it, Hitler and the Naziis had taken Eugenics to the extreme ends.
Kinda shoots holes in your Hitler/Bush comparison.
the comparison that what Hitler was doing was for defence..... like Bush with Iraq?
You and so many others appear to want to forget one key point with the whole Iraq fiasco. Sadam himself was mostly complicit in causing the invasion. While never saying he didn't have WMDs he not only allowed but encouraged the perception he had them and would use them. Not only was our Huminit intel but everyone else's Humanit intel severely lacking (most nations thought he had WMDs), Sadam kept targeting (painting, not firing on) our aircraft in the no-fly zone and doing everything he could to be provacative. Based on that info we felt the best course of action was to eliminate the threat, a (believed) potential threat to stability in the region and a potential indirect threat to us that had 12 years to comply with sanctions but resisted constantly.
One other thing that most people are unaware of was the fact Russia had people on the ground in Iraq for much of that time. We accidentally bombed one of their convoys heading out of Iraq the day hostilities started. Ask yourself this question, how long has Russia had to learn how to hide things from prying eyes. Not claiming they did in this instance but the question still nags at the back of the mind.
Your proof???You must be the height of naive if you believe that the Russians and others weren't working with Saddam on WMD's. When we went to war, they realized how bad it would look if we found a mobile bioweapons lab from BioPreparat in Iraq so they cleared all their stuff out beforehand
Oh, I seeWhat???![]()
I consider The Modern Dem Party to be nothing more than the Soviet Shock Army and is probably inflicting more damage on our economy and civilization that even a Soviet Tank Army ever could![]()
and my response -
"His nuclear counterpart, Mohamed ElBaradei said there was no evidence so far that Iraq was reviving its nuclear programme and said inspectors needed a few months to complete the search."
so there were no long range weapons of mass destruction that could reach the U.S. ....so no smoking gun that would be a mushroom cloud at all
You must be the height of naive if you believe that the Russians and others weren't working with Saddam on WMD's. When we went to war, they realized how bad it would look if we found a mobile bioweapons lab from BioPreparat in Iraq so they cleared all their stuff out beforehand
if everyone gives up, where is the war?Buchanan is right. There wouldn't have been any war if the Poles had just given up.
My wife and I have friends near Ocean City MD, nice place.
and you know this because? (will a time machine come into play here?)![]()
Oh, I seeI consider The Modern Dem Party to be nothing more than the Soviet Shock Army and is probably inflicting more damage on our economy and civilization that even a Soviet Tank Army ever could![]()
Indeed.
Uncle Pat's at it again?
He's a loon, but I kind of like him. At least he's honest. He reminds me of the crazy old uncle who gets drunk and provides the entertainment at every family gathering. He's at his best when he has no idea he's being funny.![]()
i wonder how many remember his call for invasion and annexation of Greenland?Buchanan has run twice for the Republican nomination he has yet to score in double digits. Calling Buchanan a loose cannon is giving him far more credit than he is due. His take on WWII is utterly bizarre and has been for a while now. As far as I can tell Buchanan is as close to Biden as you can get in the Republican interms of being wrong more often than being right.