But, Aren't Nazis and Fascists Really Left-Wingers?

[Euroconservativ]

I have no desire to teach you about how Nazis were not socialist. If you want to lean something, go dig up one of the many threads about it.

Did you know that Fascists approved many of the labour regulations still in force in Italy? For example, they created the Contratto Collettivo Nazionale del Lavoro (National Collective Labour Contract), which today still prevents employers from applying flexible bargaining rules. The modern Italian Constitution (which was written by communists, socialists and left-wing christian democrats) and strong politicized trade unions make it almost impossible to pass a serious labour reform.

Mussolini also created the IRI. Imagine a 100% government-owned holding that runs every kind of businesses: national TV, banking and insurance, shipbuilding, chemical... everything. Of course, they didn't care about making a profit. It lasted for 60 years. The IRI was a fascist creature but communists and socialists always defended, and still defend it, as an alternative to free-market capitalism. This economic culture is still ruling Italy.

Istituto per la Ricostruzione Industriale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


By the way, did you know that Mussolini was a socialist leader and director of party's daily paper Avanti?

 

[SniperFire]

Now, Obama is stealing Lenin's promotional work.

The commies should sue!

 

[GoneBezerk]

Your incoherent rambling isn't our problem to decipher.....go away, asswipe.

Oh tell shitbag.....how Socialist doesn't mean Socialist.

Your historical pig ignorance is music to your masters' ears, Twinky.

You have absolutely zero idea of why 'socialist' in in the Nazi's formal name, don't you?

Of course you, being a dogshit eating felon on parole, can't be expected to know any better.

Bummer.

when it is qualified by the n standing before the s.

thanks for asking.

 

[del]

I am always here to help, libtard.

Regular or decaf?

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so your position is that because they both used propaganda, they're the same?

damn, that's stupid.

Do you ever take an intellectual stance on anything? Ever? Other than demeaning every other poster on the board that isn't you or one of your chronies that apparently can't stand on their own two feet and need you to come to their rescue on a continual basis? I guess we all have to have some purpose in life. (Yeah, I know, you'll have some witty, inane insult as to my purpose in life as a response, so save it for someone who cares. )

fuck off, twat

coming here for *intellectual* discourse is like going to death valley to water ski.

 

[L.K.Eder]

Your incoherent rambling isn't our problem to decipher.....go away, asswipe.

Oh tell shitbag.....how Socialist doesn't mean Socialist.

when it is qualified by the n standing before the s.

thanks for asking.

i am hurt.

maybe someone unpossessed by a retarded demon can help you deciphering the abbreviation nsdap.

 

[CrazedScotsman]

The Political Spectrum Easily Explained - Basic Forms of Government - YouTube

^^^This^^^

 

[BlindBoo]

Oh tell shitbag.....how Socialist doesn't mean Socialist.

When ......"On March 9, 1933, several weeks after Hitler assumed power, organized attacks on Jews broke out across Germany. Two weeks later, the Dachau concentration camp, situated near Munich, opened. Dachau became a place of internment for Communists, Socialists, German liberals and anyone considered an enemy of the Reich. It became the model for the network of concentration camps that would be established later by the Nazis. Within a few months, democracy was obliterated in Germany, and the country became a centralized, single-party police state.

Holocaust History - Holocaust History - Rise of the Nazis and Beginning of Persecution - Yad Vashem

 

[Newby]

nazis and communists both used the color red.

i'm convinced now

Well, a pathetic strawman argument is better than the 'no argument at all' flailing you have been engaging in.

But kindly up your game.


LOL

del's argument is better than your straw video as it takes only 1 second to absorb, and conveys exactly the same bullshit.

Del has an argument? Seriously?

 

[Newby]

so your position is that because they both used propaganda, they're the same?

damn, that's stupid.

Do you ever take an intellectual stance on anything? Ever? Other than demeaning every other poster on the board that isn't you or one of your chronies that apparently can't stand on their own two feet and need you to come to their rescue on a continual basis? I guess we all have to have some purpose in life. (Yeah, I know, you'll have some witty, inane insult as to my purpose in life as a response, so save it for someone who cares. )

fuck off, twat

coming here for *intellectual* discourse is like going to death valley to water ski.

Yeah, I know Del, you're 'above it all'..

 

[del]

Well, a pathetic strawman argument is better than the 'no argument at all' flailing you have been engaging in.

But kindly up your game.


LOL

del's argument is better than your straw video as it takes only 1 second to absorb, and conveys exactly the same bullshit.

Del has an argument? Seriously?

shouldn't you be pounding a bible and rubbing one out to your troy poiluamu poster?

run along now

 

[del]

Do you ever take an intellectual stance on anything? Ever? Other than demeaning every other poster on the board that isn't you or one of your chronies that apparently can't stand on their own two feet and need you to come to their rescue on a continual basis? I guess we all have to have some purpose in life. (Yeah, I know, you'll have some witty, inane insult as to my purpose in life as a response, so save it for someone who cares. )

fuck off, twat

coming here for *intellectual* discourse is like going to death valley to water ski.

Yeah, I know Del, you're 'above it all'..

nope, i come here to amuse myself.

you're just too stupid to amuse me.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Socialism and Communism was sweeping across the world when Hitler was rising to power in Germany, so take on the name of National Socialism was a statement.

Hitler wanted a German utopia between the capitalist western powers (UK/USA) and the communist USSR. He liked a piece of both worlds, not going totally towards total control of the German economy like the USSR, a socialist....communist lite. Like Coke and Diet Coke.....they're still both Coke.

Liberals today have worked for decades to keep the American public stupid about the Nazis being like them in the 1930s. They don't want the failures and evil actions of the Nazis to ruin their socialist plans for this country.

Hell, many of them here touted the Nazis (the Kennedy clan leader) as a good force in Europe for the common man, building a collective society against capitalism. Soon after the Nazis started invading other countries and slaughtering people, the liberals here crawled back to the shadows acting like they never liked that Hitler guy over in Germany.....in fact the right-wing here loved them was/is their bullshit lie sprewed on the American public ever since the 1940s.

 

[SniperFire]

fuck off, twat

coming here for *intellectual* discourse is like going to death valley to water ski.

Yeah, I know Del, you're 'above it all'..

nope, i come here to amuse myself.

you're just too stupid to amuse me.

You are basically a troll.

 

[konradv]

Hitler's gay buddy that was in charge of the BROWNSHIRTS "the SA," was leaning more towards communism than Hitler. Hitler was forced to kill off his gay buddy because he was pushing the communist agenda behind Hitler's back and openly questioning Hitler's authority when many groups within the Nazi party were battling for power.

So everytime some liberal throws around the term BROWNSHIRTS, again they are showing off their stupidity. The Brownshirts were radical left thugs that had many gays among their leaders, which was one reason the SS was able to convince Hitler to massacre them at a resort retreat ambush.

Nazis and brownshirts.....are just other names for left-wing goons just like liberals today.

If they were one and the same, why did they kill them. Hitler's pretensions to socialism ended on the Night of the Long Knives. You're trying to argue both sides and failing miserably!

 

[del]

Yeah, I know Del, you're 'above it all'..

nope, i come here to amuse myself.

you're just too stupid to amuse me.

You are basically a troll.

can't fool you for long, huh, einstein?

 

[GoneBezerk]

Uh, the brownshirts were communist lite.....Hitler killed them off too over a power struggle.

Just because Hitler would kill anyone, even his friends doesn't prove shit you stupid fuck.

Oh tell shitbag.....how Socialist doesn't mean Socialist.

When ......"On March 9, 1933, several weeks after Hitler assumed power, organized attacks on Jews broke out across Germany. Two weeks later, the Dachau concentration camp, situated near Munich, opened. Dachau became a place of internment for Communists, Socialists, German liberals and anyone considered an enemy of the Reich. It became the model for the network of concentration camps that would be established later by the Nazis. Within a few months, democracy was obliterated in Germany, and the country became a centralized, single-party police state.

Holocaust History - Holocaust History - Rise of the Nazis and Beginning of Persecution - Yad Vashem

 

[konradv]

You're such a fucking idiot using North Korea aka the Democratic People's Republic of Korea as an example against the Nazis.

The communists running the DPRK want to project a false image of what they are to the world so they grabbed the words Democratic and Republic as lipstick on a pig.

So idiot, Hitler wasn't going to take on the word Socialist unless he felt it was a positive name for his movement. At the time socialism wasn't as popular as democracy/capitalism....so by openly claiming the National Socialist moniker was a statement for SOCIALISM in Germany....which they did implement by taking over some business sectors, universal healthcare, etc.

Shut the fuck up, idiot.

National Socialist....only a leftist is dumb enough or scum enough to ignore Socialist is in their name.

What's in a name? You call yourself whatever you like. Many make a big deal of our being a republic and not a democracy. Are they being dumb for for ignoring the fact that North Korea is also a republic? Your post is equivocation in its highest form.

You're the idiot if you think we should let you set all the definitions. That's totalitarian thinking on your part, comrade.

 

[SniperFire]

nope, i come here to amuse myself.

you're just too stupid to amuse me.

You are basically a troll.

can't fool you for long, huh, einstein?

Post a lot, deflect, say nothing.

Yep. a troll.

 

[Newby]

del's argument is better than your straw video as it takes only 1 second to absorb, and conveys exactly the same bullshit.

Del has an argument? Seriously?

shouldn't you be pounding a bible and rubbing one out to your troy poiluamu poster?

run along now

Aw, you can do better than that, you're losing your touch.

 

[Newby]

fuck off, twat

coming here for *intellectual* discourse is like going to death valley to water ski.

Yeah, I know Del, you're 'above it all'..

nope, i come here to amuse myself.

you're just too stupid to amuse me.

My, someone is vewwwy cranky today...