California embodies left-wing misery

[danielpalos]

Solving simple poverty?

Just more dumbassery by you. How has your beloved Central Gubmint done on solving simple poverty?


The War on Poverty After 50 Years

Conspiracy or coincidence? Black codes were still on the books back then.

All the socialism we need is equality via equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States. The legal and physical infrastructure already exists in our republic.

We should have no homeless problem in our at-will employment States.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

This is more relevant:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[Nostra]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Any questions?

Common defense comes before general welfare, so according to you it has more importance. And yet, you have tried to downplay common defense.

You lose again.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

 

[Nostra]

Solving simple poverty?

Just more dumbassery by you. How has your beloved Central Gubmint done on solving simple poverty?


The War on Poverty After 50 Years

Conspiracy or coincidence? Black codes were still on the books back then.

All the socialism we need is equality via equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States. The legal and physical infrastructure already exists in our republic.

We should have no homeless problem in our at-will employment States.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

This is more relevant:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare"

Look up the words "provide" and 'promote".

Common defence >>>>>> general welfare.




I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

 

[danielpalos]

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Any questions?

Common defense comes before general welfare, so according to you it has more importance. And yet, you have tried to downplay common defense.

You lose again.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

You are misapplying their reasoning.

Our Constitution is express not implied by your right wing fantasy in any way.

There are two rules of construction, dictated by plain reason, as well as founded on legal axioms. The one is, that every part of the expression ought, if possible, to be allowed some meaning, and be made to conspire to some common end. The other is, that where the several parts cannot be made to coincide, the less important should give way to the more important part; the means should be sacrificed to the end, rather than the end to the means.

 

[danielpalos]

Solving simple poverty?

Just more dumbassery by you. How has your beloved Central Gubmint done on solving simple poverty?


The War on Poverty After 50 Years

Conspiracy or coincidence? Black codes were still on the books back then.

All the socialism we need is equality via equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States. The legal and physical infrastructure already exists in our republic.

We should have no homeless problem in our at-will employment States.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

This is more relevant:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare"

Look up the words "provide" and 'promote".

Common defence >>>>>> general welfare.




I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

In other words, we need to do more for the general welfare than for the common defense.

 

[Nostra]

Solving simple poverty?

Just more dumbassery by you. How has your beloved Central Gubmint done on solving simple poverty?


The War on Poverty After 50 Years

Conspiracy or coincidence? Black codes were still on the books back then.

All the socialism we need is equality via equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States. The legal and physical infrastructure already exists in our republic.

We should have no homeless problem in our at-will employment States.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

This is more relevant:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare"

Look up the words "provide" and 'promote".

Common defence >>>>>> general welfare.




I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

In other words, we need to do more for the general welfare than for the common defense.

Already been a $22 TRILLION boondoggle trying to end poverty..........and the poverty rate is basically the same.

Your ideas suck sweaty donkey balls, Troll.


I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

 

[danielpalos]

Solving simple poverty?

Just more dumbassery by you. How has your beloved Central Gubmint done on solving simple poverty?


The War on Poverty After 50 Years

Conspiracy or coincidence? Black codes were still on the books back then.

All the socialism we need is equality via equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States. The legal and physical infrastructure already exists in our republic.

We should have no homeless problem in our at-will employment States.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

This is more relevant:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare"

Look up the words "provide" and 'promote".

Common defence >>>>>> general welfare.




I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

In other words, we need to do more for the general welfare than for the common defense.

Already been a $22 TRILLION boondoggle trying to end poverty..........and the poverty rate is basically the same.

Your ideas suck sweaty donkey balls, Troll.


I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

And, our standard of living is getting worse. We have to promote and provide for the general welfare not the general malfare or badfare.

Solving simple poverty promotes the general welfare in market friendly manner via existing legal and physical infrastructure.

 

[Nostra]

Solving simple poverty?

Just more dumbassery by you. How has your beloved Central Gubmint done on solving simple poverty?


The War on Poverty After 50 Years

Conspiracy or coincidence? Black codes were still on the books back then.

All the socialism we need is equality via equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States. The legal and physical infrastructure already exists in our republic.

We should have no homeless problem in our at-will employment States.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

This is more relevant:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare"

Look up the words "provide" and 'promote".

Common defence >>>>>> general welfare.




I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

In other words, we need to do more for the general welfare than for the common defense.

Already been a $22 TRILLION boondoggle trying to end poverty..........and the poverty rate is basically the same.

Your ideas suck sweaty donkey balls, Troll.


I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

And, our standard of living is getting worse. We have to promote and provide for the general welfare not the general malfare or badfare.

Solving simple poverty promotes the general welfare in market friendly manner via existing legal and physical infrastructure.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

 

[danielpalos]

Solving simple poverty?

Just more dumbassery by you. How has your beloved Central Gubmint done on solving simple poverty?


The War on Poverty After 50 Years

Conspiracy or coincidence? Black codes were still on the books back then.

All the socialism we need is equality via equal protection of the laws for unemployment compensation in our at-will employment States. The legal and physical infrastructure already exists in our republic.

We should have no homeless problem in our at-will employment States.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

This is more relevant:

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

"provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare"

Look up the words "provide" and 'promote".

Common defence >>>>>> general welfare.




I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

In other words, we need to do more for the general welfare than for the common defense.

Already been a $22 TRILLION boondoggle trying to end poverty..........and the poverty rate is basically the same.

Your ideas suck sweaty donkey balls, Troll.


I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

And, our standard of living is getting worse. We have to promote and provide for the general welfare not the general malfare or badfare.

Solving simple poverty promotes the general welfare in market friendly manner via existing legal and physical infrastructure.

I gave you multiple links to the Founders expressing their reasoning on the general welfare clause, Stupid.

For some reason you think posting "express" and "badfare" trumps their reasoning. It doesn't.

You keep repeating the exact same incoherent nonsense and think you sound smart. You don't. You are exposing what a moron you are with each post.

You missapply their reasoning. I am discussing something actually enumerated in our federal and State Constitutions. Equal protection of the laws.

 

[P@triot]

Homelessness...was still growing under the best of right wing economic times.

Only in cites run by failed left-wing policies (like San Francisco, LA, and NY).

and equality was still growing under the best of right wing economic times.

Another blatant lie by the China troll. By percentage, the lower class had made the greatest increases under President Trump.

 

[P@triot]

You didn’t answer the question, China troll. There is no "express clause" for "regulating" murder. Am I allowed to commit murder?

Due process is expressed in our supreme law of the land. Only right wingers appeal to ignorance of it.

You still didn't answer the question. Were not discussing "due process". That never came up. Why won't you answer the question? Do you lack the modesty to admit you can't?

There is no "express clause" for "regulating" murder. Am I allowed to commit murder?

 

[P@triot]

You didn’t answer the question, China troll. There is no "express clause" for "regulating" murder. Am I allowed to commit murder?

Due process is expressed in our supreme law of the land. Only right wingers appeal to ignorance of it.

Let the record show that I asked about murder specifically, and in a panic, the China troll nonsensically turns the conversation to "due process" (which was never discussed or debated in this thread).

The China troll now realizes that he backed himself into a corner and there is no way out of it. So you ask about "A" and he screams "look over there at Z"!

 

[P@triot]

You don't see a general warfare clause...

I just corrected you on this yesterday, China troll. Defense (which includes "warfare") is absolutely a power of the federal government. Here, take a look for yourself: #638

General welfare must include anything and everything that will promote it.

You said “general warfare”. Don’t change the subject because I just owned you again, China troll.

There is no general warfare clause...

Uh..yes there. For the third time now: #638

 

[P@triot]

Ad hominems are usually considered fallacies. You need a valid argument to show where my reasoning is wrong to be taken seriously. Only the ignorant must appeal to ignorance.

You've been shown where your reasoning is wrong, over and over again with documented evidence.

He claims he knows more about the Constitution than those who wrote it. And to prove it he posts "express" four thousand times.

Not half as bad as the desperate stuff the China troll just tried with me. After screaming that abortion isn't "expressly" forbidden in the US Constitution, I pointed out that neither is murder and asked him I am allowed to commit murder because of that.

His reply? "Due process exists". Uh...yeah? Ok? And? I didn't ask if I was allowed to commit "due process". I asked if I was allowed to commit murder

 

[initforme]

Well my tax dollars will end up there or in some rich guys wallet. I'll pick the homeless over ANY rich guy anytime. And this is coming from a guy who worked for 40 years. Try that on. You see, I didn't vote for EITHER candidate.

 

[P@triot]

Yet, Y'all are the ones with nothing but fallacy of appeals to ignorance, and your usual ad hominems, instead of any valid arguments.

We're the one's who have provided actual quotes from founders and cited sources like The Federalist Papers. You have yet to quote anyone or provide a single source. All you do is string together words you don't understand in hopes of duping someone. "We expressly have an express clause that is welfare but not bad fare for the express purpose of expressly not badfaring the welfared".

Our welfare clause is not common but general.

See? Perfect timing! I rest my case!

 

[P@triot]

What does one power authorize but not the other? Right wingers allege everything can be done for the "common" defense but not the "General" welfare.

“General welfare” is not an enumerated power, dumb ass. Defense is.

 

[P@triot]

Well my tax dollars will end up there or in some rich guys wallet. I'll pick the homeless over ANY rich guy anytime.

If that were even remotely true, you would hand your money to the homeless people themselves. Instead, you vote for government to take someone else’s money and give a small portion of it to them, while waiting the rest.

And this is coming from a guy who worked for 40 years. Try that on. You see, I didn't vote for EITHER candidate.

Are we supposed to be proud of you or something? Try this on: I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016 or 2020.

 

[danielpalos]

Homelessness...was still growing under the best of right wing economic times.

Only in cites run by failed left-wing policies (like San Francisco, LA, and NY).

and equality was still growing under the best of right wing economic times.

Another blatant lie by the China troll. By percentage, the lower class had made the greatest increases under President Trump.

12 Ways the Trump Administration Has Deepened Inequality

From reducing Native Americans’ land to limiting access to food stamps

time.com

 

[danielpalos]

You didn’t answer the question, China troll. There is no "express clause" for "regulating" murder. Am I allowed to commit murder?

Due process is expressed in our supreme law of the land. Only right wingers appeal to ignorance of it.

You still didn't answer the question. Were not discussing "due process". That never came up. Why won't you answer the question? Do you lack the modesty to admit you can't?

There is no "express clause" for "regulating" murder. Am I allowed to commit murder?

A person may not be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law or denied equal protection of the laws

Proof only right wingers prefer ignorance to the actual and express law.