Let's talk about migrant crime.

[martybegan]

I wasn't able to see any of your posts cuz I had you on ignore. Clearly, migrants commit crimes as your anecdotal examples show. It's just that the data show there is no migrant crime wave.

Ousey notes the emotional toll these incidents have taken and how they can inform public perception, saying, “They can be really egregious acts of criminality that really draw lots of attention that involve somebody who happens to be an immigrant. And if you have leaders, political leaders who are really pushing that narrative, I think that would have the tendency to sort of push up the myth.”

They shouldn't be here in the first place. EVERY illegal migrant crime is a preventable crime simply by following our immigration laws.

 

[Nostra]

Because you are a PUSSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have kicked his stupid ass too many times, I guess.

 

[berg80]

As much as anything the thread is about the power of trump, combined with RWM, to shape the beliefs of Repubs in ways that are distortions of reality.

 

[martybegan]

As much as anything the thread is about the power of trump, combined with RWM, to shape the beliefs of Repubs in ways that are distortions of reality.

No, it's reality bitch slapping you in the face, and all you can say is "yes sir gimme another!"

 

[Nostra]

As much as anything the thread is about the power of trump, combined with RWM, to shape the beliefs of Repubs in ways that are distortions of reality.

Your bullshit thread has been thoroughly destroyed, Simp.

 

[Hollie]

It's a top of mind issue for many Americans, especially Repubs. Why? Cuz, there is no crime wave?

Trump's claims of a migrant crime wave are not supported by national data​

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants.

According to a recent Pew poll, 57% of Americans said that a large number of migrants seeking to enter the country leads to more crime. Republicans (85%) overwhelmingly say the migrant surge leads to increased crime in the U.S. A far smaller share of Democrats (31%) say the same. The poll found that 63% of Democrats say it does not have much of an impact.

But despite the former president’s campaign rhetoric, expert analysis and available data from major-city police departments show that despite several horrifying high-profile incidents, there is no evidence of a migrant-driven crime wave in the United States.
“This is a public perception problem. It’s always based upon these kinds of flashpoint events where an immigrant commits a crime,” explains Graham Ousey, a professor at the College of William & Mary and the co-author of “Immigration and Crime: Taking Stock.” “There’s no evidence for there being any relationship between somebody’s immigrant status and their involvement in crime.”

Ousey notes the emotional toll these incidents have taken and how they can inform public perception, saying, “They can be really egregious acts of criminality that really draw lots of attention that involve somebody who happens to be an immigrant. And if you have leaders, political leaders who are really pushing that narrative, I think that would have the tendency to sort of push up the myth.”

Trump's claims of a migrant crime wave are not supported by national data

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants.

www.nbcnews.com

Alex Nowrasteh’s paper, “Illegal Immigration and Crime in Texas,” is cited on MSNBC’s Velshi​

https://www.cato.org/multimedia/media-highlights-tv/alex-nowrastehs-paper-illegal-immigration-crime-texas-cited-msnbcs

Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’

In the past few months, politicians and certain media outlets have latched on to a narrative that recent immigrants, especially undocumented ones, are causing spikes in crime. Instead of gathering data and examining the issue empirically, they are making this broad assertion based on highly publicized individual incidents of crime by undocumented immigrants. All acts of violence must be taken seriously. But policymakers should not attribute blame to entire classes of people when individuals commit crimes.

The research does not support the view that immigrants commit crime or are incarcerated at higher rates than native-born Americans. In fact, immigrants might have less law enforcement contact compared to nonimmigrants. Focusing on the facts is imperative, especially given that immigration has become a top issue for voters ahead of the election.

Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’

Data does not support claims that the United States is experiencing a surge in crime caused by immigrants.

www.brennancenter.org

Okay, so where oh where could the idea of a migrant crime wave be coming from if not from reality? Could it be the usual suspects? Perhaps we should begin with where the term came from.

FactChecking Trump’s Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas​

FactChecking Trump's Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump has made illegal immigration and its impact on the U.S. a focus of his campaign – but several of his talking points are wrong or misleading. Here's what we found among his immigration claims at recent events in the electoral swing states of Arizona and Nevada.

www.factcheck.org

Study: Fox News ran nearly 400 weekday segments on “migrant crime” in the first 10 weeks of 2024​

Fox News spent the first months of 2024 blaming President Joe Biden for an unverifiable surge of violent “migrant crime” as the right-wing network geared up to try to reinstall Donald Trump in the White House. In reality, immigrants commit fewer crimes on average than native-born Americans, violent crime reportedly continues to fall from its Trump-era heights, and there is no evidence of a migrant-driven crime spike.

Fox ran at least 388 weekday segments that featured significant discussion of “migrant crime” from January 1 through March 8, according to a Media Matters review. Only 11 of those segments even hinted at the idea that on the whole most migrants are not criminals (that tally includes segments criticizing politicians or journalists at other networks who made the point).

Study: Fox News ran nearly 400 weekday segments on “migrant crime” in the first 10 weeks of 2024

Fox News spent the first months of 2024 blaming President Joe Biden for an unverifiable surge of violent “migrant crime” as the right-wing network geared up to try to reinstall Donald Trump in the White House. In reality, immigrants commit fewer crimes on average than native-born Americans...

www.mediamatters.org

Make no mistake, in Trumpworld if the Orange Bigot says it, and Faux reinforces it, it's true. Together, they can create an alternative reality not reflective of what is going on in the real world. The believers, they don't need no stinkin' facts or evidence.

If you think this phenomenon OF MAKING SHIT UP only applies to the non-existent "migrant crime" wave, THINK AGAIN.

Let's not talk about the young American women raped and killed by the Dem / Socialist imported illegals. That would be a difficult conversation as those killings were all avoidable.

 

[berg80]

Gee, the folks who have responded are all nitwits I have on ignore.

 

[Papageorgio]

It's a top of mind issue for many Americans, especially Repubs. Why? Cuz, there is no crime wave?

Trump's claims of a migrant crime wave are not supported by national data​

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants.

According to a recent Pew poll, 57% of Americans said that a large number of migrants seeking to enter the country leads to more crime. Republicans (85%) overwhelmingly say the migrant surge leads to increased crime in the U.S. A far smaller share of Democrats (31%) say the same. The poll found that 63% of Democrats say it does not have much of an impact.

But despite the former president’s campaign rhetoric, expert analysis and available data from major-city police departments show that despite several horrifying high-profile incidents, there is no evidence of a migrant-driven crime wave in the United States.
“This is a public perception problem. It’s always based upon these kinds of flashpoint events where an immigrant commits a crime,” explains Graham Ousey, a professor at the College of William & Mary and the co-author of “Immigration and Crime: Taking Stock.” “There’s no evidence for there being any relationship between somebody’s immigrant status and their involvement in crime.”

Ousey notes the emotional toll these incidents have taken and how they can inform public perception, saying, “They can be really egregious acts of criminality that really draw lots of attention that involve somebody who happens to be an immigrant. And if you have leaders, political leaders who are really pushing that narrative, I think that would have the tendency to sort of push up the myth.”

Trump's claims of a migrant crime wave are not supported by national data

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants.

www.nbcnews.com

Alex Nowrasteh’s paper, “Illegal Immigration and Crime in Texas,” is cited on MSNBC’s Velshi​

https://www.cato.org/multimedia/media-highlights-tv/alex-nowrastehs-paper-illegal-immigration-crime-texas-cited-msnbcs

Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’

In the past few months, politicians and certain media outlets have latched on to a narrative that recent immigrants, especially undocumented ones, are causing spikes in crime. Instead of gathering data and examining the issue empirically, they are making this broad assertion based on highly publicized individual incidents of crime by undocumented immigrants. All acts of violence must be taken seriously. But policymakers should not attribute blame to entire classes of people when individuals commit crimes.

The research does not support the view that immigrants commit crime or are incarcerated at higher rates than native-born Americans. In fact, immigrants might have less law enforcement contact compared to nonimmigrants. Focusing on the facts is imperative, especially given that immigration has become a top issue for voters ahead of the election.

Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’

Data does not support claims that the United States is experiencing a surge in crime caused by immigrants.

www.brennancenter.org

Okay, so where oh where could the idea of a migrant crime wave be coming from if not from reality? Could it be the usual suspects? Perhaps we should begin with where the term came from.

FactChecking Trump’s Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas​

FactChecking Trump's Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump has made illegal immigration and its impact on the U.S. a focus of his campaign – but several of his talking points are wrong or misleading. Here's what we found among his immigration claims at recent events in the electoral swing states of Arizona and Nevada.

www.factcheck.org

Study: Fox News ran nearly 400 weekday segments on “migrant crime” in the first 10 weeks of 2024​

Fox News spent the first months of 2024 blaming President Joe Biden for an unverifiable surge of violent “migrant crime” as the right-wing network geared up to try to reinstall Donald Trump in the White House. In reality, immigrants commit fewer crimes on average than native-born Americans, violent crime reportedly continues to fall from its Trump-era heights, and there is no evidence of a migrant-driven crime spike.

Fox ran at least 388 weekday segments that featured significant discussion of “migrant crime” from January 1 through March 8, according to a Media Matters review. Only 11 of those segments even hinted at the idea that on the whole most migrants are not criminals (that tally includes segments criticizing politicians or journalists at other networks who made the point).

Study: Fox News ran nearly 400 weekday segments on “migrant crime” in the first 10 weeks of 2024

Fox News spent the first months of 2024 blaming President Joe Biden for an unverifiable surge of violent “migrant crime” as the right-wing network geared up to try to reinstall Donald Trump in the White House. In reality, immigrants commit fewer crimes on average than native-born Americans...

www.mediamatters.org

Make no mistake, in Trumpworld if the Orange Bigot says it, and Faux reinforces it, it's true. Together, they can create an alternative reality not reflective of what is going on in the real world. The believers, they don't need no stinkin' facts or evidence.

If you think this phenomenon OF MAKING SHIT UP only applies to the non-existent "migrant crime" wave, THINK AGAIN.

Illegal immigrants who commit one crime is one more than if they hadn’t been allowed in this country in the first place. They take advantage of our kindness and lax laws that allow them into our country. I don’t mind people immigrating into our nation, I do object to the illegal immigrants that do not respect legal immigrants who abided by the law and they certainly disrespect our laws, government and every legal citizen of the United States, thier disrespect for our country and our laws makes them bad candidates for US citizenship. Why people want to minimize this criminal activity is beyond me.

 

[berg80]

Let's not talk about the young American women raped and killed by the Dem / Socialist imported illegals. That would be a difficult conversation as those killings were all avoidable.

Well, let's recall trump did not make a dent in stopping illegal immigration. Making it disingenuous for him to trigger you folks about blaming Biden for the non-existent migrant crime wave.

President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration

The population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office.

www.cato.org

 

[berg80]

Illegal immigrants who commit one crime is one more than if they hadn’t been allowed in this country in the first place.

See post #29. Please don't lose sight of the fact that what trump has convinced millions of Americans of is a lie.

 

[Nostra]

Gee, the folks who have responded are all nitwits I have on ignore.

If you have us on ignore, how do you know we are responding?

 

[SeaMajor7]

As much as anything the thread is about the power of trump, combined with RWM, to shape the beliefs of Repubs in ways that are distortions of reality.

"These are not the droids you are looking for."
* waves hand *

 

[Nostra]

Well, let's recall trump did not make a dent in stopping illegal immigration.

You are a liar berg80

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It's a top of mind issue for many Americans, especially Repubs. Why? Cuz, there is no crime wave?

Trump's claims of a migrant crime wave are not supported by national data​

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants.

According to a recent Pew poll, 57% of Americans said that a large number of migrants seeking to enter the country leads to more crime. Republicans (85%) overwhelmingly say the migrant surge leads to increased crime in the U.S. A far smaller share of Democrats (31%) say the same. The poll found that 63% of Democrats say it does not have much of an impact.

But despite the former president’s campaign rhetoric, expert analysis and available data from major-city police departments show that despite several horrifying high-profile incidents, there is no evidence of a migrant-driven crime wave in the United States.
“This is a public perception problem. It’s always based upon these kinds of flashpoint events where an immigrant commits a crime,” explains Graham Ousey, a professor at the College of William & Mary and the co-author of “Immigration and Crime: Taking Stock.” “There’s no evidence for there being any relationship between somebody’s immigrant status and their involvement in crime.”

Ousey notes the emotional toll these incidents have taken and how they can inform public perception, saying, “They can be really egregious acts of criminality that really draw lots of attention that involve somebody who happens to be an immigrant. And if you have leaders, political leaders who are really pushing that narrative, I think that would have the tendency to sort of push up the myth.”

Trump's claims of a migrant crime wave are not supported by national data

An NBC News review of available 2024 crime data shows overall crime levels dropping in cities that have received the most migrants.

www.nbcnews.com

Alex Nowrasteh’s paper, “Illegal Immigration and Crime in Texas,” is cited on MSNBC’s Velshi​

https://www.cato.org/multimedia/media-highlights-tv/alex-nowrastehs-paper-illegal-immigration-crime-texas-cited-msnbcs

Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’

In the past few months, politicians and certain media outlets have latched on to a narrative that recent immigrants, especially undocumented ones, are causing spikes in crime. Instead of gathering data and examining the issue empirically, they are making this broad assertion based on highly publicized individual incidents of crime by undocumented immigrants. All acts of violence must be taken seriously. But policymakers should not attribute blame to entire classes of people when individuals commit crimes.

The research does not support the view that immigrants commit crime or are incarcerated at higher rates than native-born Americans. In fact, immigrants might have less law enforcement contact compared to nonimmigrants. Focusing on the facts is imperative, especially given that immigration has become a top issue for voters ahead of the election.

Debunking the Myth of the ‘Migrant Crime Wave’

Data does not support claims that the United States is experiencing a surge in crime caused by immigrants.

www.brennancenter.org

Okay, so where oh where could the idea of a migrant crime wave be coming from if not from reality? Could it be the usual suspects? Perhaps we should begin with where the term came from.

FactChecking Trump’s Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas​

FactChecking Trump's Immigration-Related Claims in Phoenix and Las Vegas - FactCheck.org

Former President Donald Trump has made illegal immigration and its impact on the U.S. a focus of his campaign – but several of his talking points are wrong or misleading. Here's what we found among his immigration claims at recent events in the electoral swing states of Arizona and Nevada.

www.factcheck.org

Study: Fox News ran nearly 400 weekday segments on “migrant crime” in the first 10 weeks of 2024​

Fox News spent the first months of 2024 blaming President Joe Biden for an unverifiable surge of violent “migrant crime” as the right-wing network geared up to try to reinstall Donald Trump in the White House. In reality, immigrants commit fewer crimes on average than native-born Americans, violent crime reportedly continues to fall from its Trump-era heights, and there is no evidence of a migrant-driven crime spike.

Fox ran at least 388 weekday segments that featured significant discussion of “migrant crime” from January 1 through March 8, according to a Media Matters review. Only 11 of those segments even hinted at the idea that on the whole most migrants are not criminals (that tally includes segments criticizing politicians or journalists at other networks who made the point).

Study: Fox News ran nearly 400 weekday segments on “migrant crime” in the first 10 weeks of 2024

Fox News spent the first months of 2024 blaming President Joe Biden for an unverifiable surge of violent “migrant crime” as the right-wing network geared up to try to reinstall Donald Trump in the White House. In reality, immigrants commit fewer crimes on average than native-born Americans...

www.mediamatters.org

Make no mistake, in Trumpworld if the Orange Bigot says it, and Faux reinforces it, it's true. Together, they can create an alternative reality not reflective of what is going on in the real world. The believers, they don't need no stinkin' facts or evidence.

If you think this phenomenon OF MAKING SHIT UP only applies to the non-existent "migrant crime" wave, THINK AGAIN.

When a leftists want to talk about illegal acts of migrants they only want to spew leftists propaganda. They they want facts

 

[Hollie]

Well, let's recall trump did not make a dent in stopping illegal immigration. Making it disingenuous for him to trigger you folks about blaming Biden for the non-existent migrant crime wave.

President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration

The population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office.

www.cato.org

Nonsense. Trump obviously did have a policy that reduced illegal Immigration.

From. Ultra-leftist Vox.

Biden’s border record: Trump’s claims vs. reality

The border trends during Biden’s presidency, and how his policies played into them, explained.

www.vox.com

Unauthorized crossings at the US southern border soared higher and higher during the first three years of Joe Biden’s presidency.

 

[sartre play]

OUT of the ALMOST 350 MILLION PEOPLE who live in the US, AM sure you can find 15 or more horrible crimes committed by illegal's from Mexico. How quickly can you find 15 or 20 horrible crimes done by White people in conservative states?

 

[sartre play]

They shouldn't be here in the first place. EVERY illegal migrant crime is a preventable crime simply by following our immigration laws.

YES we need to do something about immigration,
How come we did not pass the last bill that was working in that direction???
What about the other people( not Mexicans) coming in & buying up and breaking our laws?

 

[martybegan]

YES we need to do something about immigration,
How come we did not pass the last bill that was working in that direction???
What about the other people( not Mexicans) coming in & buying up and breaking our laws?

The last bill did nothing to fix the problem. The Feds have the tools they need to fix this, they just don't want to do it.