Call to move the Winter Olympics

[007]

have the Olympics been moved yet?

Ummm. Don't think so.

Just a lot of

Ya know. Same old same old.

We'll see.

Ya, they'll move the Olympics right after obama is impeached.

 

[Luissa]

no one called for the olympics to be moved..... becasue they understood what the olympics are about and its reason for being.

Blacks made a huge showing in the 36 Olympics and rubbed hitlers nose in his arian superiority bullshit.

A boycott WAS called for and it was for the persecution of Jews.

The Movement to Boycott the Berlin Olympics of 1936

But we never thought Germany and Hitler would "go that far".

a boycott of the olympics is not moving the olympics.

They originally thought about moving it

 

[Luissa]

Now we're comparing gays to the Jews? Yeah...that's the same...

We are comparing how such things started. If you know your history, the Nazis started with the gays.....and not to many people complained....many even cheered. I begin to understand how those kinds of things were allowed to start.....

And it is telling how some here forget that the Nazis Holocaust happened to the gays of Europe too....not to the extent of the Jews....but gays too.

You need more history.

The Nazis started with the Gypsies, the Roma, although technically Aryan, they were not pure. They had dark hair and dark eyes.

The genocide of the gypsies, actually predated the 1933 Nazi takeover.

Persecution of Roma (Gypsies) in Prewar Germany, 1933?1939

You want it to be gays, you need it to be gays, but it wasn't gays.

The Nazi persecution of gays didn't start until 1933 when Hitler took over.

Nazi Persecution of Homosexuals 1933-1945

In any event. Persecution of gays is always going to happen. As soon as any population is given to compliance, it will be overrun by a people who reject perversion and it will start all over again. Maybe homosexuals should be given their own country.

Reading your last paragraph and your other posts reminds me of what is said in the article you posted
"the state asserted, carried a "degeneracy" that threatened the "disciplined masculinity" of Germany. Denounced as "antisocial parasites" and as "enemies of the state," more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality"


And idiots like Vox, try to claim the Nazi's were left wingers. Lol

 

[Kondor3]

Move the Olympics, because of the Gay Agenda?

Not a...

...but it does make for a good joke on a midsummer's day!

 

[Edgetho]

We are comparing how such things started. If you know your history, the Nazis started with the gays.....and not to many people complained....many even cheered. I begin to understand how those kinds of things were allowed to start.....

And it is telling how some here forget that the Nazis Holocaust happened to the gays of Europe too....not to the extent of the Jews....but gays too.

You need more history.

The Nazis started with the Gypsies, the Roma, although technically Aryan, they were not pure. They had dark hair and dark eyes.

The genocide of the gypsies, actually predated the 1933 Nazi takeover.

Persecution of Roma (Gypsies) in Prewar Germany, 1933?1939

You want it to be gays, you need it to be gays, but it wasn't gays.

The Nazi persecution of gays didn't start until 1933 when Hitler took over.

Nazi Persecution of Homosexuals 1933-1945

In any event. Persecution of gays is always going to happen. As soon as any population is given to compliance, it will be overrun by a people who reject perversion and it will start all over again. Maybe homosexuals should be given their own country.

Reading your last paragraph and your other posts reminds me of what is said in the article you posted
"the state asserted, carried a "degeneracy" that threatened the "disciplined masculinity" of Germany. Denounced as "antisocial parasites" and as "enemies of the state," more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality"


And idiots like Vox, try to claim the Nazi's were left wingers. Lol

Not 'left wingers' stupid.

socialist.

There are left wing Republics and right wing Republics. There are left wing socialists and right wing socialists.

This whole 'Left'/'Right' thing is totally misunderstood.

But that's what happens when you try to educate dimocraps.

 

[Avatar4321]

Why is it liberals are constantly lecturing everyone on respecting Muslims and their customs and yet when it comes to anything that goes against THEIR belief system they melt down?! I come from a background of European heritage with Mother Russia being my ancestral homeland...how about respecting cultures and customs of other nations?? Biatch all you want but don't try to enforce YOUR belief system on to an entire culture of people. Hypocrisy is rolling in it's grave here.

Interesting...we liberals are always lectured about how we should be thanking our lucky stars that we don't live in MUSLIM countries where they treat gays horribly.


Well....now it's a Christian country doing it........and we're told to suck it up.

Very very interesting.

You live in Russia now?

 

[Unkotare]

The Olympics have lost their purpose and value in any case. The IOC's processes are a farce; all about bribery, kickbacks, and political favors. They are a waste of money for the host country, and have become a waste of time for (former) fans.

 

[Katzndogz]

We are comparing how such things started. If you know your history, the Nazis started with the gays.....and not to many people complained....many even cheered. I begin to understand how those kinds of things were allowed to start.....

And it is telling how some here forget that the Nazis Holocaust happened to the gays of Europe too....not to the extent of the Jews....but gays too.

You need more history.

The Nazis started with the Gypsies, the Roma, although technically Aryan, they were not pure. They had dark hair and dark eyes.

The genocide of the gypsies, actually predated the 1933 Nazi takeover.

Persecution of Roma (Gypsies) in Prewar Germany, 1933?1939

You want it to be gays, you need it to be gays, but it wasn't gays.

The Nazi persecution of gays didn't start until 1933 when Hitler took over.

Nazi Persecution of Homosexuals 1933-1945

In any event. Persecution of gays is always going to happen. As soon as any population is given to compliance, it will be overrun by a people who reject perversion and it will start all over again. Maybe homosexuals should be given their own country.

Reading your last paragraph and your other posts reminds me of what is said in the article you posted
"the state asserted, carried a "degeneracy" that threatened the "disciplined masculinity" of Germany. Denounced as "antisocial parasites" and as "enemies of the state," more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality"


And idiots like Vox, try to claim the Nazi's were left wingers. Lol

Nazi was not their proper name. It was an acronym. The proper name was the National Socialist German Workers Party, They were socialists and politically left. The Nazis have more in common with today's socialists, like obama, than today's right. American socialists still believe in a Master Race, it's just a non-white race. The left still demonizes Jews. The difference is American socialists aren't Aryan. The left, like the Nazis firmly support a centralized government with little autonomy. But, more than anything, what the American left has most in common with Nazis is the cult of personality surrounding the dear leader. The father, the papa, the worship and loyalty to the one man, the Nazis had Hitler, the left has obama.

 

[007]

 

[Kondor3]

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A good answer, as a smack-down for the worst that Liberals serve-up on this issue...

 

[bodecea]

You need more history.

The Nazis started with the Gypsies, the Roma, although technically Aryan, they were not pure. They had dark hair and dark eyes.

The genocide of the gypsies, actually predated the 1933 Nazi takeover.

Persecution of Roma (Gypsies) in Prewar Germany, 1933?1939

You want it to be gays, you need it to be gays, but it wasn't gays.

The Nazi persecution of gays didn't start until 1933 when Hitler took over.

Nazi Persecution of Homosexuals 1933-1945

In any event. Persecution of gays is always going to happen. As soon as any population is given to compliance, it will be overrun by a people who reject perversion and it will start all over again. Maybe homosexuals should be given their own country.

Reading your last paragraph and your other posts reminds me of what is said in the article you posted
"the state asserted, carried a "degeneracy" that threatened the "disciplined masculinity" of Germany. Denounced as "antisocial parasites" and as "enemies of the state," more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality"


And idiots like Vox, try to claim the Nazi's were left wingers. Lol

Nazi was not their proper name. It was an acronym. The proper name was the National Socialist German Workers Party, They were socialists and politically left. The Nazis have more in common with today's socialists, like obama, than today's right. American socialists still believe in a Master Race, it's just a non-white race. The left still demonizes Jews. The difference is American socialists aren't Aryan. The left, like the Nazis firmly support a centralized government with little autonomy. But, more than anything, what the American left has most in common with Nazis is the cult of personality surrounding the dear leader. The father, the papa, the worship and loyalty to the one man, the Nazis had Hitler, the left has obama.

Ah...because they called themselves Socialist, that means they were?

 

[Luissa]

You need more history.

The Nazis started with the Gypsies, the Roma, although technically Aryan, they were not pure. They had dark hair and dark eyes.

The genocide of the gypsies, actually predated the 1933 Nazi takeover.

Persecution of Roma (Gypsies) in Prewar Germany, 1933?1939

You want it to be gays, you need it to be gays, but it wasn't gays.

The Nazi persecution of gays didn't start until 1933 when Hitler took over.

Nazi Persecution of Homosexuals 1933-1945

In any event. Persecution of gays is always going to happen. As soon as any population is given to compliance, it will be overrun by a people who reject perversion and it will start all over again. Maybe homosexuals should be given their own country.

Reading your last paragraph and your other posts reminds me of what is said in the article you posted
"the state asserted, carried a "degeneracy" that threatened the "disciplined masculinity" of Germany. Denounced as "antisocial parasites" and as "enemies of the state," more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality"


And idiots like Vox, try to claim the Nazi's were left wingers. Lol

Nazi was not their proper name. It was an acronym. The proper name was the National Socialist German Workers Party, They were socialists and politically left. The Nazis have more in common with today's socialists, like obama, than today's right. American socialists still believe in a Master Race, it's just a non-white race. The left still demonizes Jews. The difference is American socialists aren't Aryan. The left, like the Nazis firmly support a centralized government with little autonomy. But, more than anything, what the American left has most in common with Nazis is the cult of personality surrounding the dear leader. The father, the papa, the worship and loyalty to the one man, the Nazis had Hitler, the left has obama.

You have more in common with Nazi's then anyone on this board.

And the Nazis went after unions and communist.
The problem with idiots on the rights is they get hung up on the word socialist. When anyone with a brain knows Nazis are on the right on any political scale.

As for the rest of your post, I hear they have foil on sale at Walmart.

 

[Edgetho]

Reading your last paragraph and your other posts reminds me of what is said in the article you posted
"the state asserted, carried a "degeneracy" that threatened the "disciplined masculinity" of Germany. Denounced as "antisocial parasites" and as "enemies of the state," more than 100,000 men were arrested under a broadly interpreted law against homosexuality"


And idiots like Vox, try to claim the Nazi's were left wingers. Lol

Nazi was not their proper name. It was an acronym. The proper name was the National Socialist German Workers Party, They were socialists and politically left. The Nazis have more in common with today's socialists, like obama, than today's right. American socialists still believe in a Master Race, it's just a non-white race. The left still demonizes Jews. The difference is American socialists aren't Aryan. The left, like the Nazis firmly support a centralized government with little autonomy. But, more than anything, what the American left has most in common with Nazis is the cult of personality surrounding the dear leader. The father, the papa, the worship and loyalty to the one man, the Nazis had Hitler, the left has obama.

You have more in common with Nazi's then anyone on this board.

And the Nazis went after unions and communist.
The problem with idiots on the rights is they get hung up on the word socialist. When anyone with a brain knows Nazis are on the right on any political scale.

As for the rest of your post, I hear they have foil on sale at Walmart.

The Nazis went after Unions only to bring them into the ranks of the State Union.

They went after communists because communists were a different kind of socialist.

There has never been, and can never be, a communist State. communism has more in common with Libertarianism than it does with socialism.

Shi'te Muslims hate Sunni Muslims. Hate 'em. They butcher each other all the time.

Catholics and Protestants killed each other by the hundred thousand in the old days. Still aren't crazy about each other in Old Europe.

Why should it be any surprise that Nazis and communists hated each other?

Hitler was a socialist. NOT a marxist. A Fabian-style socilaist.

Although, like every other self-proclaimed socialist that's ever lived, he had no pattern of success to follow. Mostly because, there's never been, and there will never be, a successful socialist Country.

Unless you consider North Korea a success story.

You probably do.

Hitler was a socialist. Period.

I just can't dumb it down anymore for you. You're not just incapable of understanding, you're unwilling. You CHOOSE to be stupid.

F.A. Hayek in his Road to Serfdom (p. 168) said:

The connection between socialism and nationalism in Germany was close from the beginning. It is significant that the most important ancestors of National Socialism—Fichte, Rodbertus, and Lassalle—are at the same time acknowledged fathers of socialism. …. From 1914 onward there arose from the ranks of Marxist socialism one teacher after another who led, not the conservatives and reactionaries, but the hard-working laborer and idealist youth into the National Socialist fold. It was only thereafter that the tide of nationalist socialism attained major importance and rapidly grew into the Hitlerian doctrine.

See also his chapter 12: “The Socialist Roots of Naziism.”

Von Mises in his Human Action (p. 171) said:

There are two patterns for the realization of socialism. The first pattern (we may call it the Lenin or Russian pattern) . . . . the second pattern (we may call it the Hindenburg or German Pattern) nominally and seemingly preserves private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary markets, prices, wages, and interest rates. There are, however, no longer entrepreneurs, but only shop managers … bound to obey unconditionally the orders issued by government.

In 1919-20 and also in 1921 I attended some of the bourgeois [capitalist] meetings. Invariably I had the same feeling towards these as towards the compulsory dose of castor oil in my boyhood days. . . . And so it is not surprising that the sane and unspoiled masses shun these ‘bourgeois mass meetings’ as the devil shuns holy water.

Hitler, spoken to Otto Strasser, Berlin, May 21, 1930:

I am a Socialist, and a very different kind of Socialist from your rich friend, Count Reventlow. . . . What you understand by Socialism is nothing more than Marxism.

I can give you quote after quote, refer you to books, post volumes of literature, lead you to articles written about him that talk about him like he's some liberal modern-day Hollywood star (did you know he was a vegetarian? And a greenie?) Some on the left even loved him because they thought he was a homo.....

But if you CHOOSE to be stupid.....?

Nothing I can do about that

 

[bodecea]

Nazi was not their proper name. It was an acronym. The proper name was the National Socialist German Workers Party, They were socialists and politically left. The Nazis have more in common with today's socialists, like obama, than today's right. American socialists still believe in a Master Race, it's just a non-white race. The left still demonizes Jews. The difference is American socialists aren't Aryan. The left, like the Nazis firmly support a centralized government with little autonomy. But, more than anything, what the American left has most in common with Nazis is the cult of personality surrounding the dear leader. The father, the papa, the worship and loyalty to the one man, the Nazis had Hitler, the left has obama.

You have more in common with Nazi's then anyone on this board.

And the Nazis went after unions and communist.
The problem with idiots on the rights is they get hung up on the word socialist. When anyone with a brain knows Nazis are on the right on any political scale.

As for the rest of your post, I hear they have foil on sale at Walmart.

The Nazis went after Unions only to bring them into the ranks of the State Union.

They went after communists because communists were a different kind of socialist.

There has never been, and can never be, a communist State. communism has more in common with Libertarianism than it does with socialism.

Shi'te Muslims hate Sunni Muslims. Hate 'em. They butcher each other all the time.

Catholics and Protestants killed each other by the hundred thousand in the old days. Still aren't crazy about each other in Old Europe.

Why should it be any surprise that Nazis and communists hated each other?

Hitler was a socialist. NOT a marxist. A Fabian-style socilaist.

Although, like every other self-proclaimed socialist that's ever lived, he had no pattern of success to follow. Mostly because, there's never been, and there will never be, a successful socialist Country.

Unless you consider North Korea a success story.

You probably do.

Hitler was a socialist. Period.

I just can't dumb it down anymore for you. You're not just incapable of understanding, you're unwilling. You CHOOSE to be stupid.




See also his chapter 12: “The Socialist Roots of Naziism.”

In 1919-20 and also in 1921 I attended some of the bourgeois [capitalist] meetings. Invariably I had the same feeling towards these as towards the compulsory dose of castor oil in my boyhood days. . . . And so it is not surprising that the sane and unspoiled masses shun these ‘bourgeois mass meetings’ as the devil shuns holy water.

Hitler, spoken to Otto Strasser, Berlin, May 21, 1930:

I am a Socialist, and a very different kind of Socialist from your rich friend, Count Reventlow. . . . What you understand by Socialism is nothing more than Marxism.

I can give you quote after quote, refer you to books, post volumes of literature, lead you to articles written about him that talk about him like he's some liberal modern-day Hollywood star (did you know he was a vegetarian? And a greenie?) Some on the left even loved him because they thought he was a homo.....

But if you CHOOSE to be stupid.....?

Nothing I can do about that

Hitler was also a Christian.

 

[deltex1]

Obabble be rootin' fo de homos to bring home the gold....in his press conference now.

 

[tinydancer]

Back to the original situation.

The Olympics are not about any one person. Not about one's sexuality. Not about one's heritage. Not about the country they come from or their countries policies.

They are the Games of Champions.

Every athlete who runs to the flame is an Olympian and is a Champion. They have defeated all around them in their region in whatever sport and have now reached the pinnacle of all they have worked for.

This is the greatest show on earth with people who have travelled so many hard earned miles to make it to the flame.

Those who would turn this into a spectacle of any thing other than the beauty of sport are despicable.

 

[TNHarley]

damn good pic! crazy how that works, ey?

 

[Kondor3]

"...Hitler was also a Christian."

Incorrect.

Hitler was baptized and raised as a Christian (Roman Catholic, from Austria).

Hitler may even have retained a vague sense of affinity for and identity with Christianity in his adult years.

And he even paid lip-service to Christianity from time to time in his public speeches.

But he and his cronies were callously and falsely playing the Christian Card during their quest for power, and from time to time afterwards, to reinforce their hold upon the country.

And he and his henchmen were quite busy fabricating a new State Religion which blended various aspects of Norse Pagan Religion and Mythology alongside Christianity and with a dash of Indo-Aryan Mysticism tossed into the pot for good measure.

Ultimately, they (the Nazis) were not Christian-friendly - not even close - and they persecuted and harassed the various Christian sects, including Roman Catholicism (Hitler's own roots)...

To the point where the Vatican had to sign an agreement - the Reichskonkordat - within months after the Nazis gained power - in a desperate attempt to keep the Nazis off their backs so that they could continue to operate and minister to and help folk at the parish level...

And despite the Konkordat - the Reich invariably and ultimately imprisoned and executed a great many of the Christian clergy within Germany, Catholics and Protestants alike.

Hitler may have been born a Christian, but he was not a Church-Goer, and he sure as hell wasn't a Practitioner of its Core Teachings.

Hitler was a Christian?

Pull the other one.

 

[tinydancer]

The Olympics have lost their purpose and value in any case. The IOC's processes are a farce; all about bribery, kickbacks, and political favors. They are a waste of money for the host country, and have become a waste of time for (former) fans.

I still love them. I still watch in amazement at the sheer beauty of this level of a sport.

Sorries. It's wonderous. My favorite are the winter olympics and I can brag. Vancouver rocked!

I love them so much I stood in the freezing temps watching the Flame come through one of my local towns north of me.

It's still should be an aspiration to reach Olympian status.

 

[Seawytch]

no one called for the olympics to be moved..... becasue they understood what the olympics are about and its reason for being.

Blacks made a huge showing in the 36 Olympics and rubbed hitlers nose in his arian superiority bullshit.

A boycott WAS called for and it was for the persecution of Jews.

The Movement to Boycott the Berlin Olympics of 1936

But we never thought Germany and Hitler would "go that far".

a boycott of the olympics is not moving the olympics.

From the article you didn't read:

Brundage, like many others in the Olympic movement, initially considered moving the Games from Germany.