Call to move the Winter Olympics

[syrenn]

More and more people and organizations are calling upon the IOC to move the 2014 Winter Olympics out of Russia due to Russia's new laws on Homosexuality.

George Takei petitions: ?Move the 2014 Winter Olympics out of Russia? ? MSNBC

Stephen Fry: Move Olympics from anti-gay Russia | News.com.au

What do you think, considering that there are most likely gay athletes and spectators and Russia has threatened to arrest, detain, then deport anyone who even appears to support gays in any way.

the whole idea of the Olympics is to overcome and disregard political difference.....for the love of the games.


if gays want to say fuck you to russia....then they best get their asses in shape, win some medals and thumb their noses at russia. The very same way Blacks said fuck you to hitler and nazi germany in the '36 olympics.

The Nazi Olympics: Berlin 1936 | African American Athletes

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Wasn't it you who complained about others going personal on your threads and not discussing the topic?


I work just fine...as well has have a wife, a daughter and a fine home that we've maintained together for over 2 decades.

What was personal?? I didn't insult you.. I am simply asking instead of posting all day long on forums, why not go and do something about it? If you truly believe in the cause whats stopping you both? It's not a difficult fucking question.

So...you want to pretend.....ok, I can pretend too. It's easy to do when I have endearing stable relationships.

WTF are you whining about now Bodey? You and fucking Wtchey have whined and moaned all day long about Russia and the Olympics.. Blah blah blah.. WTF do you expect any of us to do about it? Why the hell are you sniveling to us for? Go take your asses over to Russia and do something constructive .. my entire point but your willful stupidity won't allow common sense to sink in..

 

[Ame®icano]

From the Olympic Charter:

"The practice of sport is a human right. Every individual must have the possibility of practising sport, without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play."

http://www.olympic.org/Documents/olympic_charter_en.pdf

It's too late to move, but not too late for banning Russia from participating.

Russians are not discriminating individuals in sports. They don't want them to be loud about their believes outside of sports.

 

[Seawytch]

Russian Vigilantes lure, entrap and torture gay teens

Again, as far as I've seen - you and Bodecea don't work. You have all the time in the world to do something but moan and biatch on a political forum about persecution.

Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. plus an hour each way drive time. It'd be great to be able to live on my military retirement, but I'll have to work another few years to afford more leisure time...kids in the house and all. Your interest is either touching ...or creepy.

 

[Ame®icano]

I think Russia can kiss my big round American heterosexual ass and the olypmics be moved elsewhere. The olympics are supposed to be for athletes to compete...with HUGE crowds from everywhere on earth...regardless of sexuality or politics, race or spiritual beliefs. Russia can go suck a big one as far as I am concerned.

If the Olympics are for athletes are to compete, then what place do activists have in propagandizing for homosexuality? Leave the gay shit home and let the athletes compete.

Russia is correct.

Well, we will have to agree to disagree.
If I were homosexual and my partner was competing, I would want to be there, show support, hug and kiss after an event, hold hands while taversing Olympic Village, etc. without the fear of being arrested. And that goes for those who just go to participate in watching the events take place. So no. Russia is not correct.

I thought Olympics are about sports, not romance.

 

[Ame®icano]

From the National Post:

Russia’s contentious law was signed by President Vladimir Putin in late June, imposing fines on individuals accused of spreading “propaganda of nontraditional sexual relations” to minors, and even proposing penalties for those who express these views online or in the news media. Gay pride rallies also are banned.

“An athlete of nontraditional sexual orientation isn’t banned from coming to Sochi,” Vitaly Mutko said in an interview with R-Sport, the sports newswire of state news agency RIA Novosti. “But if he goes out into the streets and starts to propagandize, then of course he will be held accountable.”

Enforcement of the law is sufficiently murky that RIA Novosti prefaced its story on Mutko with a warning: This article contains information not suitable for readers younger than 18 years of age, according to Russian legislation.

Mutko emphasized that the law wasn’t designed to punish anyone for being gay or lesbian. Mutko said athletes would be punished only for propaganda, a word that remains ambiguous under the new law.

“The corresponding law doesn’t forbid non-traditional orientation, but other things: propaganda, involvement of minors and the youth.”

Russia warns gay athletes they are subject to new gay law at 2014 Sochi Olympics ? contradicting the IOC | National Post

Cmon, now they gonna whine how Russia doesn't have freedom of speech.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

More and more people and organizations are calling upon the IOC to move the 2014 Winter Olympics out of Russia due to Russia's new laws on Homosexuality.

George Takei petitions: ?Move the 2014 Winter Olympics out of Russia? ? MSNBC

Stephen Fry: Move Olympics from anti-gay Russia | News.com.au

What do you think, considering that there are most likely gay athletes and spectators and Russia has threatened to arrest, detain, then deport anyone who even appears to support gays in any way.

There is not enough money to move the Olympics by February even if every gay person in the world gave up eating for the rest of their lives. This makes as much sense as pouring out Stoli vodka because Putin hates gays, ie none.

 

[Ame®icano]

I bet if I flew into Saudi Arabia and started organizing protests against the bans on drinking, drugs, sex in public, their anti abortion laws, women not being able to drive and no free birth control I'd be breaking their laws.

And I'd be in big freaking trouble.

Just don't report to anyone if you're being raped, you might end up in jail.

 

[Ame®icano]

Turin, Italy or Vancouver, BC hosted in 2006 & 2010, respectively...I suspect either could manage.

At this short notice? To prep all the venues?

I can't see it.

They quickly moved the Women's World Cup when the Bird Flu hit China.

I thought it was because of SARS.

Bit more contagious then being gay.

 

[Ame®icano]

Guys, this law is for internal use only.

don't wave the flags on the streets of Sochi and you will be just fine.

Something like NSA domestic spying program. If you are not terrorist you have nothing to worry about.

 

[bodecea]

What was personal?? I didn't insult you.. I am simply asking instead of posting all day long on forums, why not go and do something about it? If you truly believe in the cause whats stopping you both? It's not a difficult fucking question.

So...you want to pretend.....ok, I can pretend too. It's easy to do when I have endearing stable relationships.

WTF are you whining about now Bodey? You and fucking Wtchey have whined and moaned all day long about Russia and the Olympics.. Blah blah blah.. WTF do you expect any of us to do about it? Why the hell are you sniveling to us for? Go take your asses over to Russia and do something constructive .. my entire point but your willful stupidity won't allow common sense to sink in..

Apparently you don't give a damn about others unless it affects you .... personally. That's what happened in the 30s too. The Nazis took that as permission.

 

[bodecea]

Russian Vigilantes lure, entrap and torture gay teens

Again, as far as I've seen - you and Bodecea don't work. You have all the time in the world to do something but moan and biatch on a political forum about persecution.

Monday through Friday 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. plus an hour each way drive time. It'd be great to be able to live on my military retirement, but I'll have to work another few years to afford more leisure time...kids in the house and all. Your interest is either touching ...or creepy.

Yeah....staying at home with wife and kids instead of going out trying to find Mr Goodbar.....doesn't suck up quite so much of our time, does it? Right now...I can multi-task between this and watching Shark week with wife, kidlet and kidlet's boyfriend.

 

[Ame®icano]

So...you want to pretend.....ok, I can pretend too. It's easy to do when I have endearing stable relationships.

WTF are you whining about now Bodey? You and fucking Wtchey have whined and moaned all day long about Russia and the Olympics.. Blah blah blah.. WTF do you expect any of us to do about it? Why the hell are you sniveling to us for? Go take your asses over to Russia and do something constructive .. my entire point but your willful stupidity won't allow common sense to sink in..

Apparently you don't give a damn about others unless it affects you .... personally. That's what happened in the 30s too. The Nazis took that as permission.

So did FDR with Americans Japanese.

 

[bodecea]

WTF are you whining about now Bodey? You and fucking Wtchey have whined and moaned all day long about Russia and the Olympics.. Blah blah blah.. WTF do you expect any of us to do about it? Why the hell are you sniveling to us for? Go take your asses over to Russia and do something constructive .. my entire point but your willful stupidity won't allow common sense to sink in..

Apparently you don't give a damn about others unless it affects you .... personally. That's what happened in the 30s too. The Nazis took that as permission.

So did FDR with Americans Japanese.

Absolutely! Excellent point right there!

 

[Gracie]

Well, color me confused and perhaps someone can 'splain it to me like I am an 8 year old:

Message boards and topics are for discussion, yes? So why, when someone starts a topic for discussion, it is called "whining"? It's differing views, not this supposed "whine" fest.

 

[Dot Com]

If George Takei is for moving the games then so am I. The Ukranians are also violently homophobic

 

[Katzndogz]

Is Obama going to pull a Carter and absolutely nuke the dreams of those men and women who have trained for this moment for years?

It was disgusting what he did to those athletes. He made the Olympics political and personal and made those people sacrifice all they'd worked for.

tinydancer:

1. This is not just the U.S.

2. There isn't talk of boycotting...there is a push to the IOC to move the Olympics out of Russia......NOT a boycott.

3. What about nuking the dreams of gay athletes or their gay supporters/family?

Are the dreams of gay athletes and their gay supporters to win or to march in Russian streets for gay "rights"? If they would rather propagandize than compete, send them home.

 

[Kondor3]

A great many Religious folk, from most of the mainstream religions of the world, perceive that homosexuality is a filthy, disgusting, unclean and unholy practice and lifestyle; an aberration before God, Man and Nature; evil, emasculating; detrimental to the vitality and martial vigor of any People or Nation; a licentiousness and debauchery that brings down Kingdoms.

And, when the vast majority of any given People or Nation are heterosexual, these beliefs cannot help but color and strongly influence the law of any country; at least until such time as the majority sheepishly cave-in, for a while, to the tyranny of the minority in this context.

We (the US, and much of The West) have only recently and very imperfectly legislated a range of rights for Homosexual Folk but one cannot wave a Magic Gay Rights Fairy Wand over the land and expect ancient (thousands of years old) disgust and prejudices to evaporate and for the now-brainwashed population to reemerge with a Rainbow Burst of Unicorns and Happy-Happy Faces Tinking Happy Tawts.

Some countries have decided to continue to take a stand against such practices and behaviors and lifestyles.

I really can't fault other countries for that, in the final analysis, so long as it's not carried to extremes of active persecution or excessive punishments, such as we see in Iran.

I'm not too keen on the LGBT Movement Folk myself, but I have better things to do than to worry about who is sleeping with who, and I don't go out of my way to either help nor hinder them.

Personally, despite having a handful of colleagues, friends or relatives whom I care for, who qualify as such - as a bloc - I think they're more of a bad joke and a pain in the ass than anything else.

And - as a bloc - they ARE a pain in the ass.

Any time that the Gay Rights Movement sees an obstacle nowadays, they cry Wolf and Unfair and Let's-Get-'Em, and they expect the entire world to snap to attention and obey their desires.

It seems a good guess that much of the rest of the world is becoming bloody sick and tired of this minority-organized, government-supported, tyrannical sort of organized rant, and that the world grows weary of this much noise being made by (and attention given to) such a small minority percentage of the population, in complete disproportion to their numbers and their relative importance in the grander scheme of things.

Society tends to have its own kind of macro-level Triage for such things, and, in the long run, Gays aren't exactly at the top of the Priority List, or the Reproductive Stack.

This recent-years trend of Common Folk to dismiss the Gays in irritation is yet another example of Donor and Supporter and Bystander Exhaustion and Intransigence, brought on by pushing them too hard, for too long.

This pushing - years of tiresome and endless bitching and moaning - is resulting in a state of affairs in which a considerable percentage of the population-at-large is increasingly telling these perpetual complainers to shut-the-fuck up.

This seems to be one of those occasions where the Gay Rights Movement Folk need to restrain themselves and mind their own country's business before they over-extend themselves one time too many and become a laughing stock...

Which would be an unfortunate outcome after all the progress they've made in recent years.

They won't close their pie-holes over this one, mind you, but I foresee a time when they look back in retrospect and wish that they had, once they fail on this one and end-up becoming a laughing stock to much of the rest of the world which has been following this.

Truth be told, they can't help themselves - they just don't know when to stop - they're incapable of restraining themselves on this one - and it is going to end badly for them - an Epic Fail.

( switches irritated rant-mode off )

 

[SuMar]

Now gay people want to control the Olympics? Can't make this stuff up...

So...did the Jews and Blacks want to control the 1936 Olympics?

Now we're comparing gays to the Jews? Yeah...that's the same...

 

[Rct_Tsoul]

Russia has many gays from what I have gathered, most are on the down-low (keep it quiet).
Russian authorities don't want Americans coming to the Olympics to actually see that their country is actually BLUE (gayer) than America.
As America transitions to (RED) socialism, and Russia transitions to (BLUE) democracy & gayness, they believe a bunch of Russian FAGS flaunting gay bitch-like behavior will provoke an American military invasion.
As Russians don't tolerate strong willed individuals standing strong, there is nothing left but submissive bitch like behavior, combined with Russian homosexuals flaunting blue gayness would lead American authorities to believe Russia is ready for imperial domination.

If you are American and it is very clear you are American, such as American Flag clothing along with flaunting gayness, they will just laugh at you and leave you alone except for the occasional bitch slap.
If your wearing Russian colors flaunting gayness, your going to jail.
When the Olympics is over they will remove the anti-gay laws and go back to their normal gay ways .............. very BLUE.