Can we all agree that Germany no longer needs U.S. Occupation?

[Flash]

I spent the summer of 1967 on the Fluda Gap. Two observations:

The Germans both hated us and loved us at the same time.

Most young German girls were short miniskirts and were cute as hell.

 

[TNHarley]

I spent the summer of 1967 on the Fluda Gap. Two observations:

The Germans both hated us and loved us at the same time.

Most young German girls were short miniskirts and were cute as hell.

My biddy used to live in germany and said it was so sexually laid back it was crazy. He said his mom would have to cover his eyes walking down the street lol

 

[GHook93]

Seriously. WTF are we still doing in Germany?

For how many decades must Germany atone for the sins of prior generations before it is allowed complete autonomy?

Our military should GET THE FUCK OUT. (and save us a bunch of money in the process)




Free Germany NOW!!

Sing The Scorpions with me:

Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the children of tomorrow dream away (dream away)
In the wind of change

We are not occupying them you stupid fuck! These are military bases for overseas operations.

Go take your liberal bullshit elsewhere


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[Rustic]

I try my best to avoid taking a stance until hearing the facts. Does Germany want us out? What military services do our German bases support? Does getting out also refer to the military hospital there and if so, how would that effect care of our injured?

Germany is no friend of the US

Says the Russian troll farm worker.

Lol, riiiiihhhggtttt....

 

[Issa]

This is probably the first time in history where the country that's occupied provide better life condiions in general than the occupier's country men and women.
I can add Japan to do except they are workaholics.

Lol
Socialist Europe is a shit hole you stupid ass motherfucker

I visit every ear, have family and friends there a d i live in the US. They have a larger middle class. Free healthy and education, along with a safety net....we don't. We have too much poverty here is embarrasing.

 

[Spare_change]

Nobody answered the real question.

Why do WE have to do it?

Why do WE need to have bases in Europe to deploy troops quickly?

Why do WE have to be the FUCKING WORLD POLICE ALL THE GODDAMN TIME WITH NO COMPENSATION???

None of you have answered that.

I will ....

IF not us, WHO?

 

[Spare_change]

To conduct operations around the world, to 'project power', and to be ready to protect allies, bases are needed around the world. We have one of the best hospitals in Europe there, NATO HQ, staging bases for re-supply, etc...

Why do WE have to project power and have forces in Europe to protect our allies? Do they have forces here to protect us? Do other NATO countries or other allies have staging bases in the Western hemisphere for re-supply?

We protect them, but they don't protect us. We throw money at them for defense, and we get.....what out of the deal?

It sounds like they need us WAY more than we need them. In fact, it sounds like they need us, and we DON'T need them. Why are we contributing ANYTHING?

THIS is the ultimate point of my OP.

THIS is the post that clearly demonstrates the depth of your ignorance.

We do it, because:

1) We said we would.
2) It's cheaper to pre-position troops in Germany than to quarter them in the US and deploy.
3) It's faster to respond to changing world conditions from Germany than to deploy from the US
4) Our presence helps to maintain a balance of peace, both in Germany, and in Europe.
5) Our presence serves as a dampening effect in order to maintain a balance that is most beneficial to our national goals.
6) We are the only force, on earth, that can project the kind of power and strength necessary to restrain those who would project THEIR force, if we weren't there.

It is nonsensical, and naive, to suggest that we allow the UN (who is funded and staffed primarily with US dollars and troops) as an alternative to protecting our own self interests. They (the countries OR the UN) are not the least bit interested in protecting our national interests.

It is worse than nonsensical and naive - it is just plain stupid - to suggest that these small countries, with populations less than 10% of ours, and economies less than 1% of ours, would be able to deploy a coherent and competent response to attack. The only alternative for them would be to join together, and create a larger military, which could be used against the US. We are better served by keeping their national interests provincial.

 

[Spare_change]

We need to get the fuck out

Abandon our NATO obligations / agreements.

Leave the best hospital we have in Europe, where the wounded from the ME are brought - we will just put them on a plane, fly them back to the states, and hope they make it.

We'll cede Europe to Vlad, let him slowly spread across Europe again, like with Crimea, which he will probably do seeing us cut 'n-run, knowing we know longer have a foothold to fight from if needed to....

Send the message to our NATO allies that they can't really count on us anymore, not right away....

Why don't we pull out of every country, pull back inside the walls of our own country, and hunker down....of wait, we don't have any walls. Our 'fortress of solitude' has open borders / no walls.....

Who said they couldnt count on us? Why cant we come to their aid when they NEED IT?
Why are we in the ME as well? Thanks for bringing that up!

US GDP = $19 trillion
GDR GDP = $3.6 trillion
US population = 350 million
GDR population = 82 million
US Military = 1.2 million
GDR Military = 60 thousand

Just what are they supposed to use to come to our aid again?

 

[TNHarley]

We need to get the fuck out

Abandon our NATO obligations / agreements.

Leave the best hospital we have in Europe, where the wounded from the ME are brought - we will just put them on a plane, fly them back to the states, and hope they make it.

We'll cede Europe to Vlad, let him slowly spread across Europe again, like with Crimea, which he will probably do seeing us cut 'n-run, knowing we know longer have a foothold to fight from if needed to....

Send the message to our NATO allies that they can't really count on us anymore, not right away....

Why don't we pull out of every country, pull back inside the walls of our own country, and hunker down....of wait, we don't have any walls. Our 'fortress of solitude' has open borders / no walls.....

Who said they couldnt count on us? Why cant we come to their aid when they NEED IT?
Why are we in the ME as well? Thanks for bringing that up!

US GDP = $19 trillion
GDR GDP = $3.6 trillion
US population = 350 million
GDR population = 82 million
US Military = 1.2 million
GDR Military = 60 thousand

Just what are they supposed to use to come to our aid again?

I said us going to their aid.

 

[Yarddog]

Seriously. WTF are we still doing in Germany?

For how many decades must Germany atone for the sins of prior generations before it is allowed complete autonomy?

Our military should GET THE FUCK OUT. (and save us a bunch of money in the process)




Free Germany NOW!!

Sing The Scorpions with me:

Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the children of tomorrow dream away (dream away)
In the wind of change

Yeah, i think also it's time Germany take more responsibility for watching their own back yard. Money and otherwise. Probably though it needs to be done gradually as they assume the duties that the US is currently doing. We can always leave advisors or a much smaller contingent

 

[Spare_change]

Seriously. WTF are we still doing in Germany?

For how many decades must Germany atone for the sins of prior generations before it is allowed complete autonomy?

Our military should GET THE FUCK OUT. (and save us a bunch of money in the process)




Free Germany NOW!!

Sing The Scorpions with me:

Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the children of tomorrow dream away (dream away)
In the wind of change

Yeah, i think also it's time Germany take more responsibility for watching their own back yard. Money and otherwise. Probably though it needs to be done gradually as they assume the duties that the US is currently doing. We can always leave advisors or a much smaller contingent

Spoken like somebody who's never tasted good German beer ...

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

So.....

Based on all the responses, the reason provided as to why we need to have troops occupying Germany can be summed up as follows:

The World Police
They occupy your land
The World Police
Don't try to take a stand
The World Police
They're gonna arrest your country
Oh no

 

[bendog]

Seriously. WTF are we still doing in Germany?

For how many decades must Germany atone for the sins of prior generations before it is allowed complete autonomy?

Our military should GET THE FUCK OUT. (and save us a bunch of money in the process)




Free Germany NOW!!

Sing The Scorpions with me:

Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the children of tomorrow dream away (dream away)
In the wind of change

Last I read they subsize so much, it's cheaper there than in Texas, and much more picturesque for the troops.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Seriously. WTF are we still doing in Germany?

For how many decades must Germany atone for the sins of prior generations before it is allowed complete autonomy?

Our military should GET THE FUCK OUT. (and save us a bunch of money in the process)




Free Germany NOW!!

Sing The Scorpions with me:

Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the children of tomorrow dream away (dream away)
In the wind of change

Yea right, we leave germany and the Nazis will rise up like ISIS did when obozo left Iraq


And don't forget about those pesky kamikaze's in Japan

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Seriously. WTF are we still doing in Germany?

For how many decades must Germany atone for the sins of prior generations before it is allowed complete autonomy?

Our military should GET THE FUCK OUT. (and save us a bunch of money in the process)




Free Germany NOW!!

Sing The Scorpions with me:

Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the children of tomorrow dream away (dream away)
In the wind of change

I would like to have ONE PRESIDENT have the guts to come forward and apologize to Germany for how war criminal Eisenhower and our military treated them.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Seriously. WTF are we still doing in Germany?

For how many decades must Germany atone for the sins of prior generations before it is allowed complete autonomy?

Our military should GET THE FUCK OUT. (and save us a bunch of money in the process)




Free Germany NOW!!

Sing The Scorpions with me:

Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the children of tomorrow dream away (dream away)
In the wind of change

Yea right, we leave germany and the Nazis will rise up like ISIS did when obozo left Iraq


And don't forget about those pesky kamikaze's in Japan

world war two was a fake war.the REAL threat to the world was Stalin,not Hitler.Also traiter FDR knew the attack on japen was going to happen and allowed it to happen on purpose. You want to learn what a traiter that asshole really was,here is the real story the media and our corrupt school system never taught us.


In Day of Deceit, Robert Stinnett delivers the definitive final chapter on America's greatest secret and our worst military disaster.

Drawing on twenty years of research and access to scores of previously classified documents, Stinnett proves that Pearl Harbor was not an accident, a mere failure of American intelligence, or a brilliant Japanese military coup. By showing that ample warning of the attack was on FDR's desk and, furthermore, that a plan to push Japan into war was initiated at the highest levels of the U.S. government, he ends up profoundly altering our understanding of one of the most significant events in American history
https://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299&tag=ff0d01-20

 

[Spare_change]

So.....

Based on all the responses, the reason provided as to why we need to have troops occupying Germany can be summed up as follows:

The World Police
They occupy your land
The World Police
Don't try to take a stand
The World Police
They're gonna arrest your country
Oh no

Think of it as a projection of our national interests ... it will help you sleep at night.

 

[Spare_change]

Seriously. WTF are we still doing in Germany?

For how many decades must Germany atone for the sins of prior generations before it is allowed complete autonomy?

Our military should GET THE FUCK OUT. (and save us a bunch of money in the process)




Free Germany NOW!!

Sing The Scorpions with me:

Take me to the magic of the moment
On a glory night
Where the children of tomorrow dream away (dream away)
In the wind of change

Yea right, we leave germany and the Nazis will rise up like ISIS did when obozo left Iraq


And don't forget about those pesky kamikaze's in Japan

world war two was a fake war.the REAL threat to the world was Stalin,not Hitler.Also traiter FDR knew the attack on japen was going to happen and allowed it to happen on purpose. You want to learn what a traiter that asshole really was,here is the real story the media and our corrupt school system never taught us.


In Day of Deceit, Robert Stinnett delivers the definitive final chapter on America's greatest secret and our worst military disaster.

Drawing on twenty years of research and access to scores of previously classified documents, Stinnett proves that Pearl Harbor was not an accident, a mere failure of American intelligence, or a brilliant Japanese military coup. By showing that ample warning of the attack was on FDR's desk and, furthermore, that a plan to push Japan into war was initiated at the highest levels of the U.S. government, he ends up profoundly altering our understanding of one of the most significant events in American history
https://www.amazon.com/Day-Deceit-Truth-About-Harbor/dp/0743201299&tag=ff0d01-20

I am sometimes surprised at how much inane stupidity the human race can package into one person .... and a post like this comes along and proves me that the capacity is unlimited.

 

[Rustic]

This is probably the first time in history where the country that's occupied provide better life condiions in general than the occupier's country men and women.
I can add Japan to do except they are workaholics.

Lol
Socialist Europe is a shit hole you stupid ass motherfucker

I visit every ear, have family and friends there a d i live in the US. They have a larger middle class. Free healthy and education, along with a safety net....we don't. We have too much poverty here is embarrasing.

Then you live there then, leave the rest of out.
I would rather die than live under European socialism...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I try my best to avoid taking a stance until hearing the facts. Does Germany want us out? What military services do our German bases support? Does getting out also refer to the military hospital there and if so, how would that effect care of our injured?

As I understand it, Germans want us out. I am sure arrangements can be made to have hospital support there.

That is apparently your problem.