Canada is convinced President Trump will pull plug on NAFTA!

[Preacher]

Exclusive: Canada increasingly convinced of Trump NAFTA pullout - sour

Hell yes! Don't want to renegotiate then its time we leave! I love it. Thank you President Trump! This is something establishment "conservatives" would NEVER do because they don't give a shit about American workers nor do Democrats.Follow President Trump's blueprint and WIN!

 

[Preacher]

Mexican Peso, Canadian Dollar Decline on U.S. Nafta Exit Risk

HAHA!

 

[Preacher]

NAFTA also had six disadvantages.

First, it led to the loss of 500,000-750,000 U.S. jobs. Most were in the manufacturing industry in California, New York, Michigan and Texas. Companies in some industries moved to Mexico because labor was cheap. These industries were automotive, textile, computer and electrical appliance.

Second, job migration suppressed wages. Sixty-five percent of companies in the affected industries threatened to move to Mexico. The U.S. workers remaining in those industries could not bargain for higher wages. Between 1993 and 1995, 50 percent of all companies in the industries that were moving to Mexico used the threat of closing the factory. By 1999, that rate had grown to 65 percent. (Source: Kate Bronfenbrenner, "Uneasy Terrain: The Impact of Capital Mobility on Workers, Wages, and Union Organizing," Cornell University, September 6, 2000.)

Third, NAFTA put Mexican farmers out of business. It allowed government-subsidized U.S. farm products into Mexico. Local farmers could not compete with the artificially low prices.

Fourth, as Mexicans lost their farms, they went to work in sub-standard conditions in the maquiladora program.

Fifth, U.S. companies degraded the Mexican environment to keep costs low.

Sixth, NAFTA allowed Mexican trucks access into the United States. Mexican trucks are not held to the same safety standards as American trucks. Therefore, Congress prohibited this provision. For more, see NAFTA Disadvantages.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

NAFTA also had six disadvantages.

First, it led to the loss of 500,000-750,000 U.S. jobs. Most were in the manufacturing industry in California, New York, Michigan and Texas. Companies in some industries moved to Mexico because labor was cheap. These industries were automotive, textile, computer and electrical appliance.

Second, job migration suppressed wages. Sixty-five percent of companies in the affected industries threatened to move to Mexico. The U.S. workers remaining in those industries could not bargain for higher wages. Between 1993 and 1995, 50 percent of all companies in the industries that were moving to Mexico used the threat of closing the factory. By 1999, that rate had grown to 65 percent. (Source: Kate Bronfenbrenner, "Uneasy Terrain: The Impact of Capital Mobility on Workers, Wages, and Union Organizing," Cornell University, September 6, 2000.)

Third, NAFTA put Mexican farmers out of business. It allowed government-subsidized U.S. farm products into Mexico. Local farmers could not compete with the artificially low prices.

Fourth, as Mexicans lost their farms, they went to work in sub-standard conditions in the maquiladora program.

Fifth, U.S. companies degraded the Mexican environment to keep costs low.

Sixth, NAFTA allowed Mexican trucks access into the United States. Mexican trucks are not held to the same safety standards as American trucks. Therefore, Congress prohibited this provision. For more, see NAFTA Disadvantages.

After Trump pulls the plug on NAFTA and a large segment of the Agricultural sector goes belly up, I wonder if you will still be so gung ho.

 

[Preacher]

Just Seven Percent of Economists Say NAFTA Exit Would Trigger a Recession

 

[Otium]

Exclusive: Canada increasingly convinced of Trump NAFTA pullout - sour

Hell yes! Don't want to renegotiate then its time we leave! I love it. Thank you President Trump! This is something establishment "conservatives" would NEVER do because they don't give a shit about American workers nor do Democrats.Follow President Trump's blueprint and WIN!

Hey, Odium! You sound like a good conservative. Just wanted to say hi.

Otium

Come by the Obama Presidency Sewer .

 

[Preacher]

Exclusive: Canada increasingly convinced of Trump NAFTA pullout - sour

Hell yes! Don't want to renegotiate then its time we leave! I love it. Thank you President Trump! This is something establishment "conservatives" would NEVER do because they don't give a shit about American workers nor do Democrats.Follow President Trump's blueprint and WIN!

Hey, Odium! You sound like a good conservative. Just wanted to say hi.

Otium

Come by the Obama Presidency Sewer .

Not a conservative but hold many rightist views so I align more with conservatives on most things. Thanks!

 

[Otium]

Exclusive: Canada increasingly convinced of Trump NAFTA pullout - sour

Hell yes! Don't want to renegotiate then its time we leave! I love it. Thank you President Trump! This is something establishment "conservatives" would NEVER do because they don't give a shit about American workers nor do Democrats.Follow President Trump's blueprint and WIN!

Hey, Odium! You sound like a good conservative. Just wanted to say hi.

Otium

Come by the Obama Presidency Sewer .

Not a conservative but hold many rightist views so I align more with conservatives on most things. Thanks!

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[Otium]

NAFTA also had six disadvantages.

First, it led to the loss of 500,000-750,000 U.S. jobs. Most were in the manufacturing industry in California, New York, Michigan and Texas. Companies in some industries moved to Mexico because labor was cheap. These industries were automotive, textile, computer and electrical appliance.

Second, job migration suppressed wages. Sixty-five percent of companies in the affected industries threatened to move to Mexico. The U.S. workers remaining in those industries could not bargain for higher wages. Between 1993 and 1995, 50 percent of all companies in the industries that were moving to Mexico used the threat of closing the factory. By 1999, that rate had grown to 65 percent. (Source: Kate Bronfenbrenner, "Uneasy Terrain: The Impact of Capital Mobility on Workers, Wages, and Union Organizing," Cornell University, September 6, 2000.)

Third, NAFTA put Mexican farmers out of business. It allowed government-subsidized U.S. farm products into Mexico. Local farmers could not compete with the artificially low prices.

Fourth, as Mexicans lost their farms, they went to work in sub-standard conditions in the maquiladora program.

Fifth, U.S. companies degraded the Mexican environment to keep costs low.

Sixth, NAFTA allowed Mexican trucks access into the United States. Mexican trucks are not held to the same safety standards as American trucks. Therefore, Congress prohibited this provision. For more, see NAFTA Disadvantages.

After Trump pulls the plug on NAFTA and a large segment of the Agricultural sector goes belly up, I wonder if you will still be so gung ho.

Why is the Ag industry going belly up w/out NAFTA ?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Canada in particular ruined a very good thing. The most telling issue to me about the negotiation that screamed that Canada didn't understand what was at stake? The Soviet Socialist Province of Ontario refused to accept the 1:1 public contract exchange.

The reality is, we bribe, steal and engage in underhanded tactic to steal U.S jobs and contracts, when we can't get a 10:1 contract benefit that provides U.S welfare and subsidies for our system, we cannot succeed.

These stupid arrogant sob's should have listened to me. I've been a constant and loud voice, and they decided to press me harder because CYA is more important than Canada, Ontario or Toronto.

Rat bast,ards.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Exclusive: Canada increasingly convinced of Trump NAFTA pullout - sour

Hell yes! Don't want to renegotiate then its time we leave! I love it. Thank you President Trump! This is something establishment "conservatives" would NEVER do because they don't give a shit about American workers nor do Democrats.Follow President Trump's blueprint and WIN!

If he is right that will be FURTHER proof that for the first time since asshole Reagan got elected,we will FINALLY for the first time since the late 70's have a president working for the PEOPLE and focused on fixing america instead of serving the NWO agenda of the elites.yahoo!!!!!!

 

[Harpy Eagle]

NAFTA also had six disadvantages.

First, it led to the loss of 500,000-750,000 U.S. jobs. Most were in the manufacturing industry in California, New York, Michigan and Texas. Companies in some industries moved to Mexico because labor was cheap. These industries were automotive, textile, computer and electrical appliance.

Second, job migration suppressed wages. Sixty-five percent of companies in the affected industries threatened to move to Mexico. The U.S. workers remaining in those industries could not bargain for higher wages. Between 1993 and 1995, 50 percent of all companies in the industries that were moving to Mexico used the threat of closing the factory. By 1999, that rate had grown to 65 percent. (Source: Kate Bronfenbrenner, "Uneasy Terrain: The Impact of Capital Mobility on Workers, Wages, and Union Organizing," Cornell University, September 6, 2000.)

Third, NAFTA put Mexican farmers out of business. It allowed government-subsidized U.S. farm products into Mexico. Local farmers could not compete with the artificially low prices.

Fourth, as Mexicans lost their farms, they went to work in sub-standard conditions in the maquiladora program.

Fifth, U.S. companies degraded the Mexican environment to keep costs low.

Sixth, NAFTA allowed Mexican trucks access into the United States. Mexican trucks are not held to the same safety standards as American trucks. Therefore, Congress prohibited this provision. For more, see NAFTA Disadvantages.

After Trump pulls the plug on NAFTA and a large segment of the Agricultural sector goes belly up, I wonder if you will still be so gung ho.

Why is the Ag industry going belly up w/out NAFTA ?

Not all of it, but the mid-western states that rely on grains such as field corn and soybeans will. If Mexico decide to go south for their grains instead of from us, who are our farmers going to sell to?

China is our second biggest customer and they are working hard to not rely on us. China has put in a bid to build a rail system connecting all of Brazil's grain producing regions to a single port, so they can ship their grain to China. They are also buying up beef operations in the same country.

If other countries cannot rely on the US to keep trade agreements everytime we get a new president we will be screwed. I know that people do not want to believe it, but we need the rest of the world more than they need us.

 

[GHook93]

Exclusive: Canada increasingly convinced of Trump NAFTA pullout - sour

Hell yes! Don't want to renegotiate then its time we leave! I love it. Thank you President Trump! This is something establishment "conservatives" would NEVER do because they don't give a shit about American workers nor do Democrats.Follow President Trump's blueprint and WIN!

Hey, Odium! You sound like a good conservative. Just wanted to say hi.

Otium

Come by the Obama Presidency Sewer .

Not very conservative to be against free trade.


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[Preacher]

Exclusive: Canada increasingly convinced of Trump NAFTA pullout - sour

Hell yes! Don't want to renegotiate then its time we leave! I love it. Thank you President Trump! This is something establishment "conservatives" would NEVER do because they don't give a shit about American workers nor do Democrats.Follow President Trump's blueprint and WIN!

Hey, Odium! You sound like a good conservative. Just wanted to say hi.

Otium

Come by the Obama Presidency Sewer .

Not very conservative to be against free trade.


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Depends on what kind of "conservative". President Trump is a populist/nationalist not a pathetic conservative and if conservative means letting other countries run over us,steal our jobs and then flood the US with cheap crap made overseas than I sure in the hell wouldn't want to be one!

 

[Otium]

NAFTA also had six disadvantages.

First, it led to the loss of 500,000-750,000 U.S. jobs. Most were in the manufacturing industry in California, New York, Michigan and Texas. Companies in some industries moved to Mexico because labor was cheap. These industries were automotive, textile, computer and electrical appliance.

Second, job migration suppressed wages. Sixty-five percent of companies in the affected industries threatened to move to Mexico. The U.S. workers remaining in those industries could not bargain for higher wages. Between 1993 and 1995, 50 percent of all companies in the industries that were moving to Mexico used the threat of closing the factory. By 1999, that rate had grown to 65 percent. (Source: Kate Bronfenbrenner, "Uneasy Terrain: The Impact of Capital Mobility on Workers, Wages, and Union Organizing," Cornell University, September 6, 2000.)

Third, NAFTA put Mexican farmers out of business. It allowed government-subsidized U.S. farm products into Mexico. Local farmers could not compete with the artificially low prices.

Fourth, as Mexicans lost their farms, they went to work in sub-standard conditions in the maquiladora program.

Fifth, U.S. companies degraded the Mexican environment to keep costs low.

Sixth, NAFTA allowed Mexican trucks access into the United States. Mexican trucks are not held to the same safety standards as American trucks. Therefore, Congress prohibited this provision. For more, see NAFTA Disadvantages.

After Trump pulls the plug on NAFTA and a large segment of the Agricultural sector goes belly up, I wonder if you will still be so gung ho.

Why is the Ag industry going belly up w/out NAFTA ?

Not all of it, but the mid-western states that rely on grains such as field corn and soybeans will. If Mexico decide to go south for their grains instead of from us, who are our farmers going to sell to?

China is our second biggest customer and they are working hard to not rely on us. China has put in a bid to build a rail system connecting all of Brazil's grain producing regions to a single port, so they can ship their grain to China. They are also buying up beef operations in the same country.

If other countries cannot rely on the US to keep trade agreements everytime we get a new president we will be screwed. I know that people do not want to believe it, but we need the rest of the world more than they need us.

If Mexico decide to go south for their grains instead of from us, who are our farmers going to sell to?

Is that like an ethanol argument? Market needs to be fixed? If that is so, we have too many farmers. NAFTA has been a topic of much hyperbole, fear mongering and outright distortions. There is no question it destroyed US manufacturing jobs in those very same mid western " Rust belt states".

And it clearly has added jobs, perhaps lots more in other sectors.

Perhaps we should start from scratch. Tell me how NAFTA benefits those farmers.

If other countries cannot rely on the US to keep trade agreements everytime we get a new president we will be screwed. I know that people do not want to believe it, but we need the rest of the world more than they need us.

That's aa ridiculous notion. We are a net creditor nation with a substantial trade deficit meaning we consume more of others' exports ( Imports) than they consume our net exports. It is a sign of our superior level of prosperity.

If we cut trade with China do you tries;ll;y think China would suffer less than us? Were need China more than they need us? That is simply preposterous.