Toddsterpatriot
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The USSR was never communist at all, in any way.
If the government controls 100% of the economy, that's not communist in any way?
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The USSR was never communist at all, in any way.
Nah, communism is always better at allocating resources because it can properly prioritize.
America’s Path To A FIRE EconomyThe trillions in fiat money “pumped into the system” reinforces capitalist relations. Stock market assets grow, the rich get richer, while those without financial assets get more wretched. This is not socialism. Probably you mean something like “‘socialism’ for the corporations and capitalists” — but then you should make this much clearer.
After the S&L looting of the '80s and 90s hundreds of the most elite criminals received felony convictions, Nothing similar has happened since.
Capitalism has never existed without war and debt, and it never will. Only a depraved psychopath would call that moral.SWealth inequality harms no one and capitalism is the only moral exonomic system as it protects and rests on the rights of indivduals.
Capitalism has never existed without war and debt, and it never will. Only a depraved psychopath would call that moral.
It is alwasy mandatory and always abusive.Collectivist system allow the option of gaining economy of scale if you want it.
It can't be abusive because the collective option is not mandatory and because the decisions are made locally by the collective members.
Yes it has indeed existed without war and debt.Capitalism has never existed without war and debt, and it never will. Only a depraved psychopath would call that moral.
If 8 years of George W Bush followed by 8 years of Barack Obama hasn't taught us the lesson Democrats and Republicans in Washington DC are the same, then we'll never learn.
Or did it teach us that it doesn't matter who's president ?
When has capitalism existed without debt?Yes it has indeed existed without war and debt.
History proves you wrong
When has capitalism existed without debt?
When was the last time there was no debt? Post the year.
I feel genuine pity for anyone who actually believes Don the Con was a president for the people. Trump is a malignant narcissist, pathological liar, and life-long con man whose only goal has been self-enrichment.Bush and Obama were the same. But Trump was a president for the people
1836. Andrew Jackson was President
US capitalism began on the plantation.via capitalism. They would exist without it
You mean Dick's and Henry's gas lines?No more gas lines/gas shortages.
And oil and gasoline prices dropped. That was awesome!
You said that not me.Real estate isn't taxed? Real estate income isn't taxed?
You said that not me.
Ask Mike:How should a junk-bond takeover be taxed? Any specifics?
Can you name on example of a state that is "Social Democrat" or egalitarian?Is “state capitalism” democratic? Can it be? Our U.S. economy, which is profoundly capitalist, is more and more dominated by finance capitalism. Having largely de-industrialized, Wall Street and the Federal Reserve is the heart of the modern American empire. Our democratic Republic is becoming less and less stable, as is much of the rest of our empire’s subordinate dependent economies.
There are in the world of course also so-called “socialist” economies like China’s. But China, where there are huge corporations and stock markets, is really better described as “state capitalist.” It has a one-party authoritarian state, but it might as well call itself “Confucian.” It is neither “social-democratic” nor “democratic socialist.” Its “socialist” egalitarian characteristics are certainly not obvious, nor is it structured as was the “planned economy” of the USSR.
I am trying to give an intelligent outline into the reality of modern world economy, which is very complex and cannot be analyzed accurately in simple 20th century Communist/Capitalist binary Cold War terms. (However, in some ways the national economic contradictions in the world today resemble the situation of competitive capitalist powers before WWI.) I don’t expect most here to be willing to explore the issue in this or any other relatively sophisticated way. Most here are just too wrapped up in truly parochial party partisan politics.