capitalism vs socialism

[Lovebears65]

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No. Korea catchin' on to capitalism...

N Korea echoing China’s move to capitalism
Sun, Jun 02, 2013 - North Korean farmers knee-deep in muddy paddies across the country have a new incentive during this year’s crucial rice planting season: possible bonuses that are part of an economic shift echoing ally China’s steps three decades ago toward embracing capitalism.

Details about the changes are emerging nearly two months after the North Korean regime unveiled its dual goals of building the economy and developing nuclear weapons in the first concrete economic policy laid out by North Korean leader Kim Jong-un since he assumed power in December 2011. Farmers say they have begun working under the new policies, which are designed to boost production by giving managers and workers financial incentives. Foreign analysts say the moves to spur North Korea’s moribund economy suggest Pyongyang is taking cues from Beijing on how to incorporate free-market ideas within its rigid socialist system.

The North enshrining its provocative push to build atomic weapons as a national goal has complicated efforts to force Pyongyang to abandon its nuclear program and dominated international discussion about the country. The North’s economic priorities have drawn far less attention, but some experts think important reforms could be unfolding. Impoverished North Korea suffers chronic food and power shortages and has not released economic data for decades. South Korea’s central bank estimates that the North’s gross national income was US$1,250 per person in 2011, compared with US$23,400 in South Korea. In the past, the North Korean state set workers’ salaries. Under new measures announced on April 1, the managers of farms, factories and other enterprises have been given leeway to set salaries and offer raises to productive workers.

Providing material incentives and loosening central control over economic decisionmaking are two key elements in transitioning from a command economy to a market-based system, said John Delury, an assistant professor of Chinese studies at Yonsei University in Seoul. Also announced on April 1 was the reappointment of North Korean Premier Pak Pong-ju after his dismissal from the post in 2007. Pak was central to reform attempts more than a decade ago. “You just wouldn’t bring back Pak Pong-ju unless you were going to try readjusting economy policy,” Delury said. North Korea’s policy changes echo the market reforms that transformed China into a manufacturing powerhouse and the world’s second-largest economy, while also lifting millions out of grinding poverty.

Beijing dismantled its centrally planned economy slowly. In the 1970s, it began allowing farmers to keep more of their harvests, incentivizing them to grow more to sell on newly allowed free markets. Food production soared. In the mid-1980s, Beijing gave state enterprises the authority to link bonuses and salaries to better performance. Those changes were mostly aimed at managers, but they cracked a communist-era preference for egalitarianism. New rules in the early 1990s gave state firms full flexibility to set wages, widening the use of incentives. In that decade, China truly broke away from its centralized “iron rice bowl” system of guaranteed employment and state-set incomes. Delury and others say that if the North is intent on economic reform, it is likely to be a fitful process. “We have to be careful not to say: ‘Aha, it’s all change, it’s finally here,’” he said. “The point is — and we see this from the Chinese case — this is a process that unfolds over time and there are starts and stops, too, but this is a strong signal of a push.”

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[TheSeventhTiger]

the RNC should make an ad showing what Liberalism did to America in 1978/79. Most of us were kids back then, we had no concept of what was going on under Carter.(like showing clips of long lines at the unemployment offices and the long gas lines), and also show clips of what socialism did to Greece of the riots when the Liberal Leaders ran out of money,,then show clips of what happened when Reagan was around!

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

the RNC should make an ad showing what Liberalism did to America in 1978/79. Most of us were kids back then, we had no concept of what was going on under Carter.(like showing clips of long lines at the unemployment offices and the long gas lines), and also show clips of what socialism did to Greece of the riots when the Liberal Leaders ran out of money,,then show clips of what happened when Reagan was around!

That would be fiction, actually.

 

[Darkwind]

the RNC should make an ad showing what Liberalism did to America in 1978/79. Most of us were kids back then, we had no concept of what was going on under Carter.(like showing clips of long lines at the unemployment offices and the long gas lines), and also show clips of what socialism did to Greece of the riots when the Liberal Leaders ran out of money,,then show clips of what happened when Reagan was around!

That would be fiction, actually.

Actually, it wouldn't.

There were two oil crisis.

One under Nixon and one under Carter.