CBO: ACA Will Cost Less Than Projected, Cover 12 Million Uninsured People This Year

[chikenwing]

It's getting worse and worse for Republicans.

Implement every aspect of the law that have been delayed,everyone of them right now.

 

[billyerock1991]

Thank you President Obama (praise be unto Him!)

So you do recognize him as your GOD?....

no, you do ... you think he's god ... we liberals think that god has blessed him and well, not you repub-LIE-retardes ... a regular Cain, you repub-LIE-retardes are

 

[billyerock1991]

Thank you President Obama (praise be unto Him!)

So you do recognize him as your GOD?....

heres your god rosman

 

[billyerock1991]

Obama promised that ObamaCare would not add one dime to the deficit.

Well, the CBO estimates add up to a Whole Lot Of Dimes.

but not to the deficit boy you repub-LIE-retardes are thick in the head ...

 

[billyerock1991]

People will decide for themselves whether they are paying more or not. Telling them they aren't paying more when they know they are will not be effective.

you got any proof on that delusion of yours ??? didn't think so ....

 

[billyerock1991]

It's getting worse and worse for Republicans.

Dear Synthaholic:

If spiritual healing were mandated for all citizens,
there would be an even more drastic drop in crime, abuse, addiction, disease of all kinds,
and costs of the consequences of crime, addiction and disease.

But it is still NOT the federal govt's duty to impose on citizens' private choices,
where it is not legally necessary or "compelling" as with crime or national defense.

Freedom to pay for health care by making better health care choices,
business and financial choices, investing in schools or charities
IS NOT A CRIME.

If you believe the benefits are greater, and it doesn't bother you to give up your liberty,
you have the right to make that choice.

But not to impose it on others who have equal right and freedom to choose for themselves.

Just remember this same argument when it comes to:
* Prolife people who believe the benefits of banning and stopping abortion
are GREATER and justify giving up the freedom of choice
* Christians or Muslims who believe that the "one way" they believe is right
is GREATER than the freedom of choosing any other way which our laws protect

If we allow freedom of choice of abortion, with the understanding abortion can be prevented WITHOUT forcing bans by law "as the only way"; why can't we understand that health care for all can be achieved without forcing mandates by law "as the only way"?

Why can't this be done voluntarily, as some of the best programs already operate?

If insurance companies need to be regulated to prevent fraud, that is one thing.
But we can still regulate companies WITHOUT forcing consumers to buy services!

I believe it makes more sense that if people commit CRIMES
then THOSE people can be required to meet federal requirements for paying their costs to the public.

But not if they haven't committed any crimes or have no such intent.
Do you see the difference?

If the govt is not going after the CRIMINALS who are CONVICTED of crimes
***and cost taxpayers thousands if not millions of dollars***;
why go after lawabiding taxpayers who haven't committed crimes and impose mandates and penalties on THEM?

Isn't that backwards? Shouldn't we hold those people responsible for their crimes and costs first?
And use that money to pay back taxpayers instead of charging more costs for abuses?
Punishing "lawabiding" citizens forced to give up our liberty because the govt doesn't have a system of collecting back from abusers?
Why not fix that problem instead of putting it on the taxpayers by making us pay or give up our rights we had before?

translation ECinicola= like always you too stupid to understand whats going on

 

[billyerock1991]

Obama promised that ObamaCare would not add one dime to the deficit.

Well, the CBO estimates add up to a Whole Lot Of Dimes.

How much was the insurance bailout? 1.5 trillion?

No other companies I know require all citizens to purchase their services by law
before passing regulations.

Whatever deal was made with insurance companies,
this contract should be paid for by them and the Parties that agreed to the contract.

Whatever members of Congress or Courts agreed to this 'business contract'
those are the ones who should be under it, manage it and pay for it, along with all the
members of the public who agree to those terms. And leave the rest to their own.

No need to argue which is better or worse, people are happier sticking to what they decide and should retain equal freedom to follow what represents them and their beliefs.

you don't get it ecinicola, but you were never too bright in the first place ... what the CBO said from the get go that it wasn't going to cost the taxpayer any debt to the national debt... they have based their figures on ten years ... the CBO said that its costing us 5 billion dollars a year less ... meaning it will deduct from the deficit ... now base that on a ten year deduction, that's 50 billion dollars off the national debt you dolts...

 

[Geaux4it]

Obama promised that ObamaCare would not add one dime to the deficit.

Well, the CBO estimates add up to a Whole Lot Of Dimes.

How much was the insurance bailout? 1.5 trillion?

No other companies I know require all citizens to purchase their services by law
before passing regulations.

Whatever deal was made with insurance companies,
this contract should be paid for by them and the Parties that agreed to the contract.

Whatever members of Congress or Courts agreed to this 'business contract'
those are the ones who should be under it, manage it and pay for it, along with all the
members of the public who agree to those terms. And leave the rest to their own.

No need to argue which is better or worse, people are happier sticking to what they decide and should retain equal freedom to follow what represents them and their beliefs.

you don't get it ecinicola, but you were never too bright in the first place ... what the CBO said from the get go that it wasn't going to cost the taxpayer any debt to the national debt... they have based their figures on ten years ... the CBO said that its costing us 5 billion dollars a year less ... meaning it will deduct from the deficit ... now base that on a ten year deduction, that's 50 billion dollars off the national debt you dolts...

Starting 2015- CBO reports deficit to be 469 billion in 2015 to about $1 trillion from 2022 through 2024

Good times

-Geaux
.

 

[billyerock1991]

Obama promised that ObamaCare would not add one dime to the deficit.

Well, the CBO estimates add up to a Whole Lot Of Dimes.

Report Actually Says Federal Deficit Will Decline If Health Care Law Is Fully Implemented

GAO: Health Care Law Will Increase Deficit Only If Cost-Containment Provisions Are "Phased Out Over Time." The GAO report cited by Sessions and conservative media looked at two scenarios and found that the health care law will increase the long-term deficit under a scenario in which cost-cutting provisions of the law are phased out:

The effect of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), enacted in March 2010, on the long-term fiscal outlook depends largely on whether elements in PPACA designed to control cost growth are sustained.
[...]


The Fall 2010 Alternative simulation assumed cost containment mechanisms specified in PPACA were phased out over time while the additional costs associated with expanding federal health care coverage remained. Under these assumptions, the long-term outlook worsened slightly compared to the pre-PPACA January 2010 simulation. [Government Accountability Office, January 2013]
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they won't understand what you've said here... unless they are attacking some country and yapping about how they support the troops and shit, they won't get what you have said here, they're repub-LIE-tards ... they're praise the loard and kill that commie thinking ...

 

[dblack]

It's getting worse and worse for Republicans.

Implement every aspect of the law that have been delayed,everyone of them right now.

Heh... no, they won't do that until the concrete has fully set up.

 

[billyerock1991]

Cost who less than projected??

the tax payers ... I know you'll come back and say we said the tax payers doesn't pay for it ... that won't float here too ... then you'll start ragging about mandates ... you like to try and make something out of nothing ... we get it ... you don't like to have to pay for health care ... you don't like the Idea that all people regardless of wealth gets health care ... we get it ... its all about your wants your wishes and demands ... we get it and so does the poor people of the country will now get it... hope that works out in the election in november for you... I know you'll be back ragging about illegals voting ... that's you way ...because if we dem's and this flaming liberal here is right and we actually win, somebody, in your mind cheated ...

 

[billyerock1991]

This is a bunch of happy horseshit.

There is no loss of liberty.

There is no loss of freedom.

Except the freedom to mooch off the taxpayer by going to the emergency room without insurance.

I suspect you wouldn't recognize liberty if it bit you in the ass.

you think liberty is just your way of thinking... thank goodness you're not in charge

 

[dblack]

Cost who less than projected??

the tax payers ... I know you'll come back and say we said the tax payers doesn't pay for it ... that won't float here too ... then you'll start ragging about mandates ... you like to try and make something out of nothing ... we get it ... you don't like to have to pay for health care ... you don't like the Idea that all people regardless of wealth gets health care ... we get it ... its all about your wants your wishes and demands ... we get it and so does the poor people of the country will now get it... hope that works out in the election in november for you... I know you'll be back ragging about illegals voting ... that's you way ...because if we dem's and this flaming liberal here is right and we actually win, somebody, in your mind cheated ...

Your cheap whores in Congress have sold us out to the insurance industry and you know it. Keep dancing.

 

[billyerock1991]

This is a bunch of happy horseshit.

There is no loss of liberty.

There is no loss of freedom.

Except the freedom to mooch off the taxpayer by going to the emergency room without insurance.

I suspect you wouldn't recognize liberty if it bit you in the ass.

you notice that's the one thing they can come up for needing this fascist Federal Government entitlement enslavement? He thinks people don't get bills from emergency or and hospitals and and get bilso ,if led and MAKE PAYMENTS on them just like they do electricity, gas, water etc
this kind of stupid is why Obama was able to DUPE so many to give up their liberty and freedom of choice to live our live how we want not how the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT want's us to

so what you're saying here is if you make 7.20 a hour and the hospital bills you 100,000 dollars ... that they will pay it??? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT !!!!! you aren't dumber then we thought ... not really stephoney ...

 

[billyerock1991]

Cost who less than projected??

the tax payers ... I know you'll come back and say we said the tax payers doesn't pay for it ... that won't float here too ... then you'll start ragging about mandates ... you like to try and make something out of nothing ... we get it ... you don't like to have to pay for health care ... you don't like the Idea that all people regardless of wealth gets health care ... we get it ... its all about your wants your wishes and demands ... we get it and so does the poor people of the country will now get it... hope that works out in the election in november for you... I know you'll be back ragging about illegals voting ... that's you way ...because if we dem's and this flaming liberal here is right and we actually win, somebody, in your mind cheated ...

Your cheap whores in Congress have sold us out to the insurance industry and you know it. Keep dancing.

translation= you don't like to have to pay for health care ... you don't like the Idea that all people regardless of wealth gets health care ... we get it ... its all about you...

 

[chikenwing]

I suspect you wouldn't recognize liberty if it bit you in the ass.

you notice that's the one thing they can come up for needing this fascist Federal Government entitlement enslavement? He thinks people don't get bills from emergency or and hospitals and and get bilso ,if led and MAKE PAYMENTS on them just like they do electricity, gas, water etc
this kind of stupid is why Obama was able to DUPE so many to give up their liberty and freedom of choice to live our live how we want not how the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT want's us to

so what you're saying here is if you make 7.20 a hour and the hospital bills you 100,000 dollars ... that they will pay it??? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT !!!!! you aren't dumber then we thought ... not really stephoney ...

No that not at all what was posted,try again.

Why isn't every aspect of the law been implemented? Why have so many been walked back. Do try and explain in rational adult speak,as to why this has happened.

 

[chikenwing]

translation= you don't like to have to pay for health care ... you don't like the Idea that all people regardless of wealth gets health care ... we get it ... its all about you.

When you see shit like this,you know your dealing with a simple minded hack.

 

[dblack]

the tax payers ... I know you'll come back and say we said the tax payers doesn't pay for it ... that won't float here too ... then you'll start ragging about mandates ... you like to try and make something out of nothing ... we get it ... you don't like to have to pay for health care ... you don't like the Idea that all people regardless of wealth gets health care ... we get it ... its all about your wants your wishes and demands ... we get it and so does the poor people of the country will now get it... hope that works out in the election in november for you... I know you'll be back ragging about illegals voting ... that's you way ...because if we dem's and this flaming liberal here is right and we actually win, somebody, in your mind cheated ...

Your cheap whores in Congress have sold us out to the insurance industry and you know it. Keep dancing.

translation= you don't like to have to pay for health care ... you don't like the Idea that all people regardless of wealth gets health care ... we get it ... its all about you...

translation= I'm just gonna ignore that fact that universal health care was a bait and switch to make a killing for the insurance lobby. That we don't have 'universal health care' or anything like it - just a mandate to buy shitty, overpriced insurance.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

CBO slightly lowers U.S. deficit estimates as health subsidies fall | Reuters

Mandatory spending programs, including Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid, will swell to 11.5 percent of GDP in 2024 from 9.5 percent in 2013. In 2024, they will cost $3.1 trillion, CBO said, accounting for more than half of all federal spending.

"If current laws do not change, the period of shrinking deficits will soon come to an end," the CBO said in the report.

Deficits will reach a low point of $469 billion, or 2.6 percent of U.S. gross domestic product, in fiscal 2015, then gradually start to rise, topping $1 trillion again in 2023 and 2024, a level that would be near 4 percent of GDP.

It was a nice cherry pick though. Even if it makes you look stupid, When has that ever stopped a liberal?

 

[Synthaholic]

CBO slightly lowers U.S. deficit estimates as health subsidies fall | Reuters

Mandatory spending programs, including Medicare, Social Security and Medicaid, will swell to 11.5 percent of GDP in 2024 from 9.5 percent in 2013. In 2024, they will cost $3.1 trillion, CBO said, accounting for more than half of all federal spending.

"If current laws do not change, the period of shrinking deficits will soon come to an end," the CBO said in the report.

Deficits will reach a low point of $469 billion, or 2.6 percent of U.S. gross domestic product, in fiscal 2015, then gradually start to rise, topping $1 trillion again in 2023 and 2024, a level that would be near 4 percent of GDP.

It was a nice cherry pick though. Even if it makes you look stupid, When has that ever stopped a liberal?

I agree! Time to raise the upper income tax rate, close all the corporate tax loopholes, and end corporate subsidies. Also, cut obsolete defense spending, and rein in the CIA budget.