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Trade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding the worlds biggest army and congress needs to craft legislation to stop ALL manufacturing in China.
Also Trump needs to stop playing footsie with the Chinese president. No economic deal is worth the threat that China poses.
Do not get mad at what I am about to write but do you remember taking me to task about my opinion of China and how we should not be trading with them?
Remember how you told me about your Christmas Presents and you thought how stupid I was for being so defiant against any trade with China?
Now maybe you can understand why I hate them so much!
It ain't the 1st time Grandpa murked himself.
We can't untangle from China who also happens to be OUR biggest market for OUR products.
What we can do is pressure for changes, particularly intellectual property theft and other things. Make it a bit more equitable.
ROFLMFAOMaybe we should wait until this Covid 19 shit is over. 80 percent of the active pharmaceutical ingredients imported into US come from China.Already addressed everything in your post on another threadTrade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding the worlds biggest army and congress needs to craft legislation to stop ALL manufacturing in China.
Also Trump needs to stop playing footsie with the Chinese president. No economic deal is worth the threat that China poses.
Except I disagree about trade, no trade with China...in or out...period
and no products made in other countries for Chinese owned businesses allowed into the U.S.
Trade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding the
I don't remember any single conversation lol.Trade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding the worlds biggest army and congress needs to craft legislation to stop ALL manufacturing in China.
Also Trump needs to stop playing footsie with the Chinese president. No economic deal is worth the threat that China poses.
Do not get mad at what I am about to write but do you remember taking me to task about my opinion of China and how we should not be trading with them?
Remember how you told me about your Christmas Presents and you thought how stupid I was for being so defiant against any trade with China?
Now maybe you can understand why I hate them so much!
Trade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding theI don't remember any single conversation lol.Trade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding the worlds biggest army and congress needs to craft legislation to stop ALL manufacturing in China.
Also Trump needs to stop playing footsie with the Chinese president. No economic deal is worth the threat that China poses.
Do not get mad at what I am about to write but do you remember taking me to task about my opinion of China and how we should not be trading with them?
Remember how you told me about your Christmas Presents and you thought how stupid I was for being so defiant against any trade with China?
Now maybe you can understand why I hate them so much!
I have argued with people hundreds of times since Christmas. NOTHING on this board is important enough for me to cement it into memory. That kind of nonsense is for trolls and lonely people. No offense intended but your opinion, or any on this board is not something I deem worthy of committing to memory.
Samsung is indeed made in Asia but most of it is outside of China.Trade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding theI don't remember any single conversation lol.Trade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding the worlds biggest army and congress needs to craft legislation to stop ALL manufacturing in China.
Also Trump needs to stop playing footsie with the Chinese president. No economic deal is worth the threat that China poses.
Do not get mad at what I am about to write but do you remember taking me to task about my opinion of China and how we should not be trading with them?
Remember how you told me about your Christmas Presents and you thought how stupid I was for being so defiant against any trade with China?
Now maybe you can understand why I hate them so much!
I have argued with people hundreds of times since Christmas. NOTHING on this board is important enough for me to cement it into memory. That kind of nonsense is for trolls and lonely people. No offense intended but your opinion, or any on this board is not something I deem worthy of committing to memory.
So if I point it out you will call me a troll for pointing out how your opinion changed about China?
Oh, a true loser is a man that can not admit he is wrong, which did you ever noticed you are never wrong?
I remember the conversation because you and Golfing Gator were so positive that China trade was so important and remember that Samsung TV and that Minecraft Game?
Yeah, everyone is a troll but you, right?
Trade is fine but no more manufacturing in China.
We are building the Chinese Communist Partys military and tech sectors with American greed and it needs to stop. We are funding the worlds biggest army and congress needs to craft legislation to stop ALL manufacturing in China.
Also Trump needs to stop playing footsie with the Chinese president. No economic deal is worth the threat that China poses.
I believe our workforce of today could work circles around any other nations manufacturing force. Provide them a good solid wage and good benefits(insurance, sick time, vacation) and those jobs could be successfully done here.
It is past time to bring the jobs back. At the very least no more production in nations that could or do pose a risk to our national security
That attitude is easily changed by forcing the change.It is past time to bring the jobs back. At the very least no more production in nations that could or do pose a risk to our national security
That's easier said than done. Americans are obsessed with low prices. We don't care where it comes from, how many Americans are out of jobs, how low of quality it is, just give it to us at the lowest cost possible.
Until we can collectively change that attitude when it comes to consuming, we will always be dependent on other countries for our goods, and yes, even medications.
That attitude is easily changed by forcing the change.It is past time to bring the jobs back. At the very least no more production in nations that could or do pose a risk to our national security
That's easier said than done. Americans are obsessed with low prices. We don't care where it comes from, how many Americans are out of jobs, how low of quality it is, just give it to us at the lowest cost possible.
Until we can collectively change that attitude when it comes to consuming, we will always be dependent on other countries for our goods, and yes, even medications.
Short term pain<long term stability
Problemand cheap labor from anywhere too
showing that, once again, Trump was correct
we need to make our own stuff and never be reliant on ANY other country for the things we need
that includes oil from the ME as well
LINK
American companies that produce essential goods in China should plan to shift their operations back to the United States or other Western countries, according to a senior Republican lawmaker.
“We're staring into a significant, significant crisis of supply chain,” Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner told the Washington Examiner. “Cheap labor or cheap manufacturing be damned if you are reliant on them for your life and livelihood.”
Gardner’s warning was spurred by the shortage of hospital masks in the United States, a dearth driven by Beijing’s refusal to allow American companies that make the products in China to ship them out of the country amid the coronavirus pandemic. And he’s not alone in that sentiment, raising the possibility that anger over China’s self-interested response to the coronavirus outbreak could produce one of the most dramatic alterations of global economics in decades.
“Because of the coronavirus problem, people are recognizing that any supply chain that has single points of failure is incredibly vulnerable,” the Heritage Foundation’s Dean Cheng, a senior research fellow in the organization’s Asian Studies Center, told the Washington Examiner. “China is going to be very concerned about decoupling, offshoring, [or any] redirection of investments out of China.”
Maybe we can ask Trump why he has not made his products here in US. What ever happened to the policy buy Americans hire Americans? Just saying.How do you mean? The USSR failed miserably. Pretty big country.Isolated countries fail economically.I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.
I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.
To be fair, there has never been an isolated country on a scale of the US.
AND, as we seen to be destined to be fucked by any trading partner, isolation could be a competitive policy.
THe choice seems to be either be the world's bitch, or take our ball and go home.
Failed because they tried to have a big empire AND we fought them.
Not because they were isolated.
if we made our products here. How can we compete overseas?
1. Sure. Go ask him.
2. Let's focus on competing in the AMERICAN market first. We are still the world's largest market. If everyone else wants to be a dick, then let's keep it for ourselves.
3. Once we do that, maybe we can talk to others about how we can set up some mutually beneficial trade.
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Is that mean if we make our products here you are going to pay engineers $25/hour or microbiologist $28? While they are making way higher than that now?We ensure american workers are paid at least double what Chinese workers make..if not triple.
No. The Communist system and currency devaluation ensures that Chinese worked are paid one half, if not, one third of American workers...
That attitude is easily changed by forcing the change.It is past time to bring the jobs back. At the very least no more production in nations that could or do pose a risk to our national security
That's easier said than done. Americans are obsessed with low prices. We don't care where it comes from, how many Americans are out of jobs, how low of quality it is, just give it to us at the lowest cost possible.
Until we can collectively change that attitude when it comes to consuming, we will always be dependent on other countries for our goods, and yes, even medications.
Short term pain<long term stability
Like I said, good luck with that one. When Trump instituted tariffs, look at how those pro-American worker Democrats complained about it raising the prices of our goods. Those tariffs made our products a little more competitive, and they hated it.
Maybe we can ask Trump why he has not made his products here in US. What ever happened to the policy buy Americans hire Americans? Just saying.How do you mean? The USSR failed miserably. Pretty big country.Isolated countries fail economically.I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.
I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.
To be fair, there has never been an isolated country on a scale of the US.
AND, as we seen to be destined to be fucked by any trading partner, isolation could be a competitive policy.
THe choice seems to be either be the world's bitch, or take our ball and go home.
Failed because they tried to have a big empire AND we fought them.
Not because they were isolated.
if we made our products here. How can we compete overseas?
1. Sure. Go ask him.
2. Let's focus on competing in the AMERICAN market first. We are still the world's largest market. If everyone else wants to be a dick, then let's keep it for ourselves.
3. Once we do that, maybe we can talk to others about how we can set up some mutually beneficial trade.
1. I did Trump said. Fuck you. I’m a hypocrite do what I say and don’t fucking worry what I do where I make more money. He also said hire Americans while I hire foreigners because they are more expensive. I can’t find waitresses, cook etc here in Florida. BTW I just fired illegal immigrants that worked in my vineyards as late as last year. Three years after I won the election. See as president I’m good.
2 & 3. We are competing right now competitively. Look at the results economy is good and you are so proud of the low unemployment. Now you want to change that?
Right now. China just shipped us a plane load of urgently needed medical supplies in NY Arrived today. China bad. Just imagine if we don’t have these partners around the globe.
Right now. illegal immigrants are in full gear working in farms trying to keep up with the demands of panic buying. Just imagine if we don’t have these people helping you get your food to your table. Crisis will be worse.
Right now. Illegal immigrants are working in full gear helping Americans in convalescence home because there’s no body else wants or allowed to work there even the relatives. Just imagine if we don’t have these people. Crisis will be worse.
White House-led airlift of urgently needed medical supplies arrives in New York
A planeload of desperately needed medical supplies arrived in New York from China on Sunday, the first in a series of flights over the next 30 days organized by the White House to help fight the coronavirus, a White House official said.
It is past time to bring the jobs back. At the very least no more production in nations that could or do pose a risk to our national security
