‘Cheap manufacturing be damned’: Sentiment builds for moving U.S. companies out of China

[Crepitus]

and cheap labor from anywhere too

showing that, once again, Trump was correct

we need to make our own stuff and never be reliant on ANY other country for the things we need

that includes oil from the ME as well

LINK

American companies that produce essential goods in China should plan to shift their operations back to the United States or other Western countries, according to a senior Republican lawmaker.

“We're staring into a significant, significant crisis of supply chain,” Colorado Sen. Cory Gardner told the Washington Examiner. “Cheap labor or cheap manufacturing be damned if you are reliant on them for your life and livelihood.”

Gardner’s warning was spurred by the shortage of hospital masks in the United States, a dearth driven by Beijing’s refusal to allow American companies that make the products in China to ship them out of the country amid the coronavirus pandemic. And he’s not alone in that sentiment, raising the possibility that anger over China’s self-interested response to the coronavirus outbreak could produce one of the most dramatic alterations of global economics in decades.

“Because of the coronavirus problem, people are recognizing that any supply chain that has single points of failure is incredibly vulnerable,” the Heritage Foundation’s Dean Cheng, a senior research fellow in the organization’s Asian Studies Center, told the Washington Examiner. “China is going to be very concerned about decoupling, offshoring, [or any] redirection of investments out of China.”

How you gonna convince all the conservative CEOs?

 

[charwin95]

I'm 100% for it. Regardless we have to continue exports to maintain our status as world power, otherwise we'd give that status to China. If countries were to become isolated, then yes, no country would complete with the USA, we'd be set.

I think we should also end foreigners owning U.S. real estate. That said millennial's already screwed the pooch on that one. Many figured they were above property ownership. They didn't take into account they'll be paying the Chinese rent in the form of 5Kish by their 60th B-days.

Isolated countries fail economically.

To be fair, there has never been an isolated country on a scale of the US.

AND, as we seen to be destined to be fucked by any trading partner, isolation could be a competitive policy.


THe choice seems to be either be the world's bitch, or take our ball and go home.

How do you mean? The USSR failed miserably. Pretty big country.

Failed because they tried to have a big empire AND we fought them.

Not because they were isolated.

Maybe we can ask Trump why he has not made his products here in US. What ever happened to the policy buy Americans hire Americans? Just saying.

if we made our products here. How can we compete overseas?

1. Sure. Go ask him.

2. Let's focus on competing in the AMERICAN market first. We are still the world's largest market. If everyone else wants to be a dick, then let's keep it for ourselves.

3. Once we do that, maybe we can talk to others about how we can set up some mutually beneficial trade.

1. I did Trump said. Fuck you. I’m a hypocrite do what I say and don’t fucking worry what I do where I make more money. He also said hire Americans while I hire foreigners because they are more expensive. I can’t find waitresses, cook etc here in Florida. BTW I just fired illegal immigrants that worked in my vineyards as late as last year. Three years after I won the election. See as president I’m good.


2 & 3. We are competing right now competitively. Look at the results economy is good and you are so proud of the low unemployment. Now you want to change that?

Right now. China just shipped us a plane load of urgently needed medical supplies in NY Arrived today. China bad. Just imagine if we don’t have these partners around the globe.

Right now. illegal immigrants are in full gear working in farms trying to keep up with the demands of panic buying. Just imagine if we don’t have these people helping you get your food to your table. Crisis will be worse.


Right now. Illegal immigrants are working in full gear helping Americans in convalescence home because there’s no body else wants or allowed to work there even the relatives. Just imagine if we don’t have these people. Crisis will be worse.

White House-led airlift of urgently needed medical supplies arrives in New York

A planeload of desperately needed medical supplies arrived in New York from China on Sunday, the first in a series of flights over the next 30 days organized by the White House to help fight the coronavirus, a White House official said.

mobile.reuters.com

1. So, that is your point? That the President is hypocritical for having his businesses hire foreigners? OK. A President who is hypocritical in pursuing American interests is better than one that is sincere in betraying American interests.


2. The macro economic numbers is hiding long term wage stagnation and seriously long term economic pain resulting from it, to the point that our lifespans are DECLINING.


3. If we didn't have these "partners" around the globe, we would A. have the capacity ourselves, and B. have better partners.

1. Do you have any better way of protecting a hypocrite? You lose.
2 & 3. Do not stare at at my post. Look at the current booming economy. At least before the Covid-19.
Very low unemployment booming economy that you, Trump and the rest of the gullibles are so proud bragging all over all the time.

How do you think we got there and here? Very big part of that is our trade partners. That’s a fact and the reality.
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[Ray From Cleveland]

It is past time to bring the jobs back. At the very least no more production in nations that could or do pose a risk to our national security

That's easier said than done. Americans are obsessed with low prices. We don't care where it comes from, how many Americans are out of jobs, how low of quality it is, just give it to us at the lowest cost possible.

Until we can collectively change that attitude when it comes to consuming, we will always be dependent on other countries for our goods, and yes, even medications.

That attitude is easily changed by forcing the change.
Short term pain<long term stability

Like I said, good luck with that one. When Trump instituted tariffs, look at how those pro-American worker Democrats complained about it raising the prices of our goods. Those tariffs made our products a little more competitive, and they hated it.

You made sense on your post #252.


But here it’s just doesn’t make sense.
Let me repeat again what I posted about Trump tariffs and trade wars. Not a single companies, technologies or any categories of businesses, big and small supported Trump TW. None nobody.
What made you think democrats are the only one complaining? Republicans cannot complain bcoz lots of them even denied even voting a moron. Like farmers that Trump made them welfare recipients. Now $40bn for 2020 $12b of that is coming from $2t stimulus. Wonder whatever to the billions$ that Trump bragged we made from tariffs?
We gain very little or none with Trump TW but it hurts profits of businesses.


By imposing TW how did we become more competitive? Really? How?

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When the prices of imported goods increases, it brings it closer to the price of goods made in the US. Walmart doesn't care if their products are made in China or the US. As long as they are the least expensive.

A trade war lasts quite some time with people like China. They're used to cheating the system and always getting their way with the US. If not for the virus, the game of chicken would have continued, but our economy would have given us more leverage. As for farmers, the bailout was temporary until we straighten out these trade deals. Well worth it in the long run.

 

[charwin95]

Just wondering why all the hostilities about China when Russia is threatening us closer war as late as March 2020.

Russian bombers intercepted off Alaskaâs coast

American and Canadian fighter jets intercepted a pair of Russian reconnaissance planes in international airspace about 50 nautical miles off Alaska’s coast on Monday, the North American Aerospace Defense Command announced Tuesday.

www.stripes.com

US intercepts Russian bombers, fighter jets off Alaskan coast for second time in two days

For the second time in two days, US F-22 stealth jets intercepted Russian bombers and fighter jets off the coast of Alaska, North American Aerospace Defense Command said in a statement.

amp.cnn.com

 

[charwin95]

It is past time to bring the jobs back. At the very least no more production in nations that could or do pose a risk to our national security

That's easier said than done. Americans are obsessed with low prices. We don't care where it comes from, how many Americans are out of jobs, how low of quality it is, just give it to us at the lowest cost possible.

Until we can collectively change that attitude when it comes to consuming, we will always be dependent on other countries for our goods, and yes, even medications.

That attitude is easily changed by forcing the change.
Short term pain<long term stability

Like I said, good luck with that one. When Trump instituted tariffs, look at how those pro-American worker Democrats complained about it raising the prices of our goods. Those tariffs made our products a little more competitive, and they hated it.

You made sense on your post #252.


But here it’s just doesn’t make sense.
Let me repeat again what I posted about Trump tariffs and trade wars. Not a single companies, technologies or any categories of businesses, big and small supported Trump TW. None nobody.
What made you think democrats are the only one complaining? Republicans cannot complain bcoz lots of them even denied even voting a moron. Like farmers that Trump made them welfare recipients. Now $40bn for 2020 $12b of that is coming from $2t stimulus. Wonder whatever to the billions$ that Trump bragged we made from tariffs?
We gain very little or none with Trump TW but it hurts profits of businesses.


By imposing TW how did we become more competitive? Really? How?

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When the prices of imported goods increases, it brings it closer to the price of goods made in the US. Walmart doesn't care if their products are made in China or the US. As long as they are the least expensive.

A trade war lasts quite some time with people like China. They're used to cheating the system and always getting their way with the US. If not for the virus, the game of chicken would have continued, but our economy would have given us more leverage. As for farmers, the bailout was temporary until we straighten out these trade deals. Well worth it in the long run.

It’s way off from what I just posted. Cheap products is what poor Americans are looking or shop at Walmart.

Farmers bail out when most went to farmers that voted for this corrupt moron. Temporary? When 20% of farmers filed bankruptcy 2019 farms they had for generations are gone. GONE. Plus lay-off that makes agricultural equipments.. Trump is very bad for the American farmers and so are the aquatic products.

And there’s no end in sight with the TW that he said 2 years ago it’s very easy to win.
At the same time China is buying corn and soybeans from Brazil and Argentina but at the current output from both countries they cannot supply Chinas demand.

Right now Right now Right now both countries are gearing for high production output because of unreliable dealings with Trump. And so with other countries.

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