Children Can Pray in Public School! Yippee!

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing the know-Nothing Leftists do better than pretend that everyone else is simply evil.

Where is the evidence that other folks would discriminate against Muslims?

In fact....the very opposite is the case.



"New York's Muslims Push For Public Schools To Close For Eid Holidays
President of the Muslim Democratic Club of New York Linda Sarsour discusses why she wants the city's public schools to close on holidays like Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha.
Now we turn to a campaign to recognize Muslim religious holidays in the New York public school system. Roughly 10 percent of New York City's public school children are Muslims. And their parents are asking that schools close for the most sacred Muslim holidays. They argue that Christian and Jewish students get their most important holidays off already. Current New York Mayor Bill de Blasio endorsed the idea during his campaign."
New York s Muslims Push For Public Schools To Close For Eid Holidays NPR




"Both Democrat Bill de Blasio and Republican Joe Lhota say schools should close on the two holidays, just as they do for major Jewish and Christian days."
De Blasio Lhota Close schools on Muslim holidays - NY Daily News

 

[Penelope]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

 

[Penelope]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

Are these private daycares?

Taken together, she added, the regulations “add up to a religious school funded with taxpayer money.”

No I am not for this. If they want to pray in schools fine, but tax payers should not pay for Religious Schools.

 

[irosie91]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

she already stated her "point" She is afraid that da jooooos might benefit. For the record-----the pre-k private schools are not ----currently completely funded by
the state-----just a bit subsidized. DiBlasio----the new guy is very big on providing
more subsidy, in fact, pre-K for ALL----- His issue is minorities------but certainly not da JOOOOOS

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

No, the OP is indeed an ignorant idiot, and this is yet another one of her failed, ridiculous threads.

 

[irosie91]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

Are these private daycares?

no. the present mayor of New York wants to provide PRE-K for all -----
especially disadvantaged minorities. In New York city that means----
blacks, Hispanics and muslims. Do not worry-----da jooooos will not benefit

 

[Penelope]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

she already stated her "point" She is afraid that da jooooos might benefit. For the record-----the pre-k private schools are not ----currently completely funded by
the state-----just a bit subsidized. DiBlasio----the new guy is very big on providing
more subsidy, in fact, pre-K for ALL----- His issue is minorities------but certainly not da JOOOOOS

I don't care about the Jooos, but I am not paying for their religious schools. Do you want to pay for RC schools? I am all for Muslims having a place for prayer and well Chrisitans can pray anywhere, but the orthodox Jews want to study the torah and Talmud all day long, that is why many in NY are on welfare.

And preschool kids are already subsidized by the government. Its called daycare.

 

[Penelope]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

she already stated her "point" She is afraid that da jooooos might benefit. For the record-----the pre-k private schools are not ----currently completely funded by
the state-----just a bit subsidized. DiBlasio----the new guy is very big on providing
more subsidy, in fact, pre-K for ALL----- His issue is minorities------but certainly not da JOOOOOS

I don't care about the Jooos, but I am not paying for their religious schools. Do you want to pay for RC schools? I am all for Muslims having a place for prayer and well Christans can pray anywhere, but the orthodox Jews want to study the torah and Talmud all day long, that is why many in NY are on welfare.

And preschool kids are already subsidized by the government. Its called daycare.

 

[Penelope]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

she already stated her "point" She is afraid that da jooooos might benefit. For the record-----the pre-k private schools are not ----currently completely funded by
the state-----just a bit subsidized. DiBlasio----the new guy is very big on providing
more subsidy, in fact, pre-K for ALL----- His issue is minorities------but certainly not da JOOOOOS

I don't care about the Jooos, but I am not paying for their religious schools. Do you want to pay for RC schools? I am all for Muslims having a place for prayer and well Christans can pray anywhere, but the orthodox Jews want to study the torah and Talmud all day long, that is why many in NY are on welfare.

And preschool kids are already subsidized by the government. Its called daycare.,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[irosie91]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

she already stated her "point" She is afraid that da jooooos might benefit. For the record-----the pre-k private schools are not ----currently completely funded by
the state-----just a bit subsidized. DiBlasio----the new guy is very big on providing
more subsidy, in fact, pre-K for ALL----- His issue is minorities------but certainly not da JOOOOOS

I don't care about the Jooos, but I am not paying for their religious schools. Do you want to pay for RC schools? I am all for Muslims having a place for prayer and well Christans can pray anywhere, but the orthodox Jews want to study the torah and Talmud all day long, that is why many in NY are on welfare.

And preschool kids are already subsidized by the government. Its called daycare.,,,,,,,,,,,,,

where are pre-school kids subsidized by the government ? do you live
in Sweden?. These discussions have been about New York City----a city about which you,, clearly,, know nothing. Of the various groups on welfare in
New York City------da JOOOOS comprise a very small fraction of the welfare rolls
compared to other groups. Why do you comment on issues about which
you know nothing?. You really should try to read a bit outside your usual islamo Nazi websites. Do you really imagine that four year old kids are studying
"the Talmud"??? Talmud is not sunday school (I have experience in sunday school------coloring books----I colored a cartoon of Jesus holding a lamb)

 

[Penelope]

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

she already stated her "point" She is afraid that da jooooos might benefit. For the record-----the pre-k private schools are not ----currently completely funded by
the state-----just a bit subsidized. DiBlasio----the new guy is very big on providing
more subsidy, in fact, pre-K for ALL----- His issue is minorities------but certainly not da JOOOOOS

Private pre schools paid for by tax payers money? programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving.

This is good??

Making certain that American children are taught the values of our Founders is good.

Well these are preschool kids, pre kindergarten and they are not home on Christmas and Thanksgiving anymore? Aren't these holidays for everyone? Private schools paid for by tax payer, these are preschoolers and most people I know that have kids in preschool pay for child care. Of course Muslim children should get their festival days off as well.

I am missing something here.

So.....what's ya' point?

she already stated her "point" She is afraid that da jooooos might benefit. For the record-----the pre-k private schools are not ----currently completely funded by
the state-----just a bit subsidized. DiBlasio----the new guy is very big on providing
more subsidy, in fact, pre-K for ALL----- His issue is minorities------but certainly not da JOOOOOS

I don't care about the Jooos, but I am not paying for their religious schools. Do you want to pay for RC schools? I am all for Muslims having a place for prayer and well Christans can pray anywhere, but the orthodox Jews want to study the torah and Talmud all day long, that is why many in NY are on welfare.

And preschool kids are already subsidized by the government. Its called daycare.,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[Hollie]

Though now they're a great target for Islamic fools.

The good news here is that you and the angry, self-hating religious nutbars like you have expanded your horizons of hate and derision.

 

[irosie91]

Though now they're a great target for Islamic fools.

The good news here is that you and the angry, self-hating religious nutbars like you have expanded your horizons of hate and derision.

I am confused hollie and k-girl. wattaya talking about? who is a target for
Islamic fools? who is a self-hating religious nutbar?

 

[koshergrl]

Though now they're a great target for Islamic fools.

The good news here is that you and the angry, self-hating religious nutbars like you have expanded your horizons of hate and derision.

I am confused hollie and k-girl. wattaya talking about? who is a target for
Islamic fools? who is a self-hating religious nutbar?

Muslim extremist groups like to target Christian school children.

 

[Hollie]

Though now they're a great target for Islamic fools.

The good news here is that you and the angry, self-hating religious nutbars like you have expanded your horizons of hate and derision.

I am confused hollie and k-girl. wattaya talking about? who is a target for
Islamic fools? who is a self-hating religious nutbar?

Muslim extremist groups like to target Christian school children.

With prayer in school, this will be an opportunity for those christian heathens to be converted to Islam.

 

[irosie91]

Though now they're a great target for Islamic fools.

The good news here is that you and the angry, self-hating religious nutbars like you have expanded your horizons of hate and derision.

I am confused hollie and k-girl. wattaya talking about? who is a target for
Islamic fools? who is a self-hating religious nutbar?

Muslim extremist groups like to target Christian school children.

Muslims (that's MUSLIMS----muslims who are muslims because they were
born to muslim parents or themselves converted) like to target any vulnerable
people in existence. In determining policies-----the people of the US should be
aware of the fact that muslims TARGET THE VULNERABLE-----whether it is the poor or the criminal or the kids or the addicts or the mentally disturbed-----ANY VULNERABLE PEOPLE------they love jails

 

[PoliticalChic]

Though now they're a great target for Islamic fools.

The good news here is that you and the angry, self-hating religious nutbars like you have expanded your horizons of hate and derision.

I am confused hollie and k-girl. wattaya talking about? who is a target for
Islamic fools? who is a self-hating religious nutbar?

Muslim extremist groups like to target Christian school children.

With prayer in school, this will be an opportunity for those christian heathens to be converted to Islam.

• "In Algeria, after 100,000 died in Muslim-on-Muslim violence, 10,000 Muslims turned their backs on Islam and were baptized as followers of Christ. This movement has tripled since the late 1990s.
• At the time of the 1979 revolution in Iran, about 500 individual Muslims were following Christ. Garrison projects that today there may be several hundred thousand Christ-followers, mostly worshipping in Iranian house churches.
• In an unnamed Arab nation, an Islamic book publisher Nasr came to Christ through satellite broadcast evangelist Father Zakaria. Sensing a call to evangelize, Nasr started a local ministry that in less than one year baptized 2,800 individuals.

In total, Garrison estimates that 2 to 7 million people from a Muslim background worldwide now follow Christ. (This is a projection since a comprehensive count is not possible.) Timothy C. Morgan, CT senior editor, global journalism, interviewed Garrison recently."Why Muslims Are Becoming the Best Evangelists Christianity Today

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Prayer......to be introduced into pre-K education in the Big Apple???

Yep!

1. "New York City Eases Pre-K Rules to Allow Prayer Breaks

2. ...some children attending taxpayer-funded prekindergarten programs in New York City may have school on Christmas and Thanksgiving. And their school day may be interrupted by a period for religious prayers.

3. .... a compromise by Mayor Bill de Blasio’s administration that is intended to increase participation by Orthodox Jewish and other private schools in his signature initiative.

4. ...new prekindergarten programs are run by private organizations, including religious schools, that are compensated by the city. But many Orthodox schools have stayed away....




5. The new guidelines, first reported this week by Hamodia, a Jewish newspaper, do not cut the total amount of time per week required for secular instruction. But schools may now spread the hours over six days,....

6. ...the city had drawn a line at permitting prayer during the school day.

7. ...programs will be allowed to have one “short break” during the secular school day for “nonprogram activities,”...

8. The break, city officials said, is geared toward allowing children to pray after lunch,...

9. ....Donna Lieberman, executive director of the New York Civil Liberties Union.
“The prayer break is an attempted end run around the prohibition against religious education and prayer in city-funded pre-K programs,” she said. Taken together, she added, the regulations “add up to a religious school funded with taxpayer money.”

10. Rabbi David Zwiebel, executive director of Agudath Israel, an ultra-Orthodox umbrella organization, supported the changes and predicted they would lead to at least a modest increase in participation."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/19/n...-pre-k-rules-to-allow-prayer-breaks.html?_r=0




Could be a breach in the myth that the Constitution doesn't countenance religion in the public arena.

About time.

Um, you've always been allowed to pray in public school. Simply can't have teachers or other staff directing it or favoring one religion over another.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

"The U.S. Department of Education put it this way in its 2003 guidelines on prayer in public schools:

“When acting in their official capacities as representatives of the state, teachers, school administrators, and other school employees are prohibited by the Establishment Clause from encouraging or discouraging prayer, and from actively participating in such activity with students. Teachers may, however, take part in religious activities where the overall context makes clear that they are not participating in their official capacities. Before school or during lunch, for example, teachers may meet with other teachers for prayer or Bible study to the same extent that they may engage in other conversation or nonreligious activities. Similarly, teachers may participate in their personal capacities in privately sponsored baccalaureate ceremonies.”"

Is it legal for students to pray in public schools?

Yes. Contrary to popular myth, the Supreme Court has never outlawed “prayer in schools.” Students are free to pray alone or in groups, as long as such prayers are not disruptive and do not infringe upon the rights of others. But this right “to engage in voluntary prayer does not include the right to have a captive audience listen or to compel other students to participate.” (This is the language supported by a broad range of civil liberties and religious groups in a joint statement of current law.)

What the Supreme Court has repeatedly struck down are state-sponsored or state-organized prayers in public schools.

The Supreme Court has made clear that prayers organized or sponsored by a public school — even when delivered by a student — violate the First Amendment, whether in a classroom, over the public address system, at a graduation exercise, or even at a high school football game. (Engel v. Vitale, 1962; School Dist. of Abington Township v. Schempp, 1963; Lee v. Weisman, 1992; Santa Fe Independent School. Dist. v. Doe, 2000)

Frequently Asked Questions - Religion First Amendment Center news commentary analysis on free speech press religion assembly petition

As ever, they hide all this info in books so naturally some haven't been briefed not liking all that book-lernin stuff.