Chris Kyle: American Liar

[Dot Com]

Kyle massacred 100s of people from a safe distance. Some were women and children. Then? He came back and acted like a real schmuck, lying about things and self aggrandizing. He put his "unique" mental therapy to the test and got offed.

Couldn't happen to a "nicer guy".

Missourian thinks those things are superior to being UDT in 'nam for some reason

 

[Missourian]

Non disclosure LMFAO.

That's rich.

Bullshitter Mate First Class?

33 & 1/3 Bravo Sierra


I was a 97Bravo. Look that one up...then come back and regale me with tales of your "nondisclosable" term of service. (Hahahaha)

Uncle Sam is the only entity I need to know that i served sport. I get treated rather well at my local VA, thankyu very much.Got my ORIGINAL DD-214 as well. As you were.

BTW- you STILL didn't address my point that you besmirched a 'nam-era UDT vet.

Care to address that Ad Hom Boi?

Stolen Valor 101..."My military job was super double secret...if I tell you I have to kill you."

Civilians have nondisclosure agreements...the military has the Title 18 Espionage Act. No one forgets and no one calls it "nondisclosure".

I know...because I would have been the one explaining it to you in minute detail as part of your OPM SSBI Package.

You are a liar. Poster boy for Stolen Valor. Grow up and actually do something worthy of respect instead of pretending and lying about being something you are not.

Ventura is a POS for suing a dead man's widow. That a Stolen Valor lying POS like you comes to his defense is no surprise to me. You both have something important in common.

No honor.

I signed a non-disclosure agreement when I exited. My clearance-level req'd it.

Don't believe it? Too bad, so sad, ...

As to your cred, you were a Perry bandwagon jumper along w/ That ASSCLOWN- The Rabbi from the get-go in '12

Gov. Ventura did real work in the 'nam. The subject of this thread and yourself? Not so much.

Let me tell you what gives your lie away. The "I'm not telling cuz it's classified" dodge is used by every stolen valor perpetrator. "My service is between me and uncle Sam." is a dead giveaway that you are a liar.

Veterans are PROUD of their service...I actually had a job that required a clearance...and I have zero qualms telling you what my MOS was...that i trained for 60 weeks at Ft Huachuca USAICS Sierra Vista AZ...IM MI.

But you on the other hand, as a faker...have no knowledge of any MOS...so, in order to keep your ignorance concealed, you claim security clearance...and it's patently transparent to those of us that have heard a thousand other honorless stolen valor ass wipes claim the same Bullshit.

tl;dr

Like I said, the only entities I need to believe that I'm a vet are Uncle Sam & the VA,

Not 'splainin' myself to every rw mouth-breather who happens to be on the board at any given time.

The truth hurts...I understand.

If it is that important to you to be a fake vet...if you need that to boost your self esteem...do some research...learn an mos and some background on it. 11bravo infantry...12 bravo combat engineer...the 13's are armor...63 bravo is light wheeled vehicle mechanic 88 mike truck driver...the 91s are medics...96 bravo is Intel analyst most of the other Intel collection is in the 96s ... Humint sigint and image intelligence. 95 Romeo was a specialized Intel recon scout...that's all i can remember off the top of my head.

You'll have to memorized your general orders...nomenclatures of weapons...cadences...units with designations. Tank and equipment names...for example...if you claim to me an 88 mike...you better know what a Hemtt is...you need to know the diiference betweem a hmmwv and cucv...if your claiming to be a cold war vet...better know the difference between a BTR and a BMP and a T60 and a T72 ( those are Soviet tanks BTW).

Can you play spades? That's also a requirement.

Actually...while theoretically possible...it's unlikely that you could perpetrate the fraud...there is just too much insider military cultural knowledge for you to absorb without actually gleaning it though service.

Perhaps you can try the Salvation Army.

 

[Dot Com]

^ tl;dr

Perry '12 and now a Trump '16 fan boi.

when will you ever learn?

 

[Pop23]

Non disclosure LMFAO.

That's rich.

Bullshitter Mate First Class?

33 & 1/3 Bravo Sierra


I was a 97Bravo. Look that one up...then come back and regale me with tales of your "nondisclosable" term of service. (Hahahaha)

Uncle Sam is the only entity I need to know that i served sport. I get treated rather well at my local VA, thankyu very much.Got my ORIGINAL DD-214 as well. As you were.

BTW- you STILL didn't address my point that you besmirched a 'nam-era UDT vet.

Care to address that Ad Hom Boi?

Stolen Valor 101..."My military job was super double secret...if I tell you I have to kill you."

Civilians have nondisclosure agreements...the military has the Title 18 Espionage Act. No one forgets and no one calls it "nondisclosure".

I know...because I would have been the one explaining it to you in minute detail as part of your OPM SSBI Package.

You are a liar. Poster boy for Stolen Valor. Grow up and actually do something worthy of respect instead of pretending and lying about being something you are not.

Ventura is a POS for suing a dead man's widow. That a Stolen Valor lying POS like you comes to his defense is no surprise to me. You both have something important in common.

No honor.

I signed a non-disclosure agreement when I exited. My clearance-level req'd it.

Don't believe it? Too bad, so sad, ...

As to your cred, you were a Perry bandwagon jumper along w/ That ASSCLOWN- The Rabbi from the get-go in '12

Gov. Ventura did real work in the 'nam. The subject of this thread and yourself? Not so much.

Let me tell you what gives your lie away. The "I'm not telling cuz it's classified" dodge is used by every stolen valor perpetrator. "My service is between me and uncle Sam." is a dead giveaway that you are a liar.

Veterans are PROUD of their service...I actually had a job that required a clearance...and I have zero qualms telling you what my MOS was...that i trained for 60 weeks at Ft Huachuca USAICS Sierra Vista AZ...IM MI.

But you on the other hand, as a faker...have no knowledge of any MOS...so, in order to keep your ignorance concealed, you claim security clearance...and it's patently transparent to those of us that have heard a thousand other honorless stolen valor ass wipes claim the same Bullshit.

tl;dr

Like I said, the only entities I need to believe that I'm a vet are Uncle Sam & the VA,

Not 'splainin' myself to every rw mouth-breather who happens to be on the board at any given time.

Now as to the topic, I'll take a UDT nam vets word over pretty much anyone's

Indeed, his word is solid:

 

[Dot Com]

he served in the 'nam then exited to live his life. Why do rw drones have a prob w/ that?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Kyle massacred 100s of people from a safe distance. Some were women and children.

And the world is a better place for it.

 

[Missourian]

^ tl;dr

Perry '12 and now a Trump '16 fan boi.

when will you ever learn?

I learned you were a liar with you only typing two vet postings...I'd say that's pretty quick on the uptake.

Perhaps my party should have listened when I said Romney was a dud.

 

[Dot Com]

^ tl;dr

Perry '12 and now a Trump '16 fan boi.

when will you ever learn?

I learned you were a liar with you only typing two vet postings...I'd say that's pretty quick on the uptake.

Perhaps my party should have listened when I said Romney was a dud.

ummm..... I've mentioned it on and off for 4 years Scooter. Where you been? Oh yeah, cheering-on Perry & now Trump lol

back to topic

 

[Missourian]

^ tl;dr

Perry '12 and now a Trump '16 fan boi.

when will you ever learn?

I learned you were a liar with you only typing two vet postings...I'd say that's pretty quick on the uptake.

Perhaps my party should have listened when I said Romney was a dud.

ummm..... I've mentioned it on and off for 4 years Scooter. Where you been? Oh yeah, cheering-on Perry & now Trump lol

back to topic

Sorry, first I'd heard it.

Tbh while I didn't agree with you...I had some limited respect for you...until now.

 

[Dot Com]

^ tl;dr

Perry '12 and now a Trump '16 fan boi.

when will you ever learn?

I learned you were a liar with you only typing two vet postings...I'd say that's pretty quick on the uptake.

Perhaps my party should have listened when I said Romney was a dud.

ummm..... I've mentioned it on and off for 4 years Scooter. Where you been? Oh yeah, cheering-on Perry & now Trump lol

back to topic

Sorry, first I'd heard it.

Tbh while I didn't agree with you...I had some limited respect for you...until now.

I'm devastated

back to topic

 

[Synthaholic]

The biggest two people on the planet to cash in on government service are Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Total conjecture. There are plenty who have gotten filthy rich from their government service, including Newt, Phil Gramm, Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Hank Paulson, Robert Rubin, etc.

....the Clintons are on welfare, the Messiah will have to sign up for unemployment and every Republican is wallowing in money.

I listed Robert Rubin, a Democrat. There are plenty from both parties.

So much for your theory.

 

[Blackrook]

Pretty good read:

Truth, Justice and the Curious Case of Chris Kyle

Despite the very high burden of proof, on July 19, 2014, Jesse Ventura, former Governor of Minnesota, WWF wrestler, TV show host and Former Navy SEAL (technically he was in the pre-cursor to SEALs, the UDT) won a defamation lawsuit against deceased former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, author of American Sniper to the tune of $1.8 million. In the book, Chris Kyle, claimed to have punched 'Scruff-face', later identified by Kyle as Jesse Ventura, in a SEAL bar in California after Ventura said some nasty things. Here is the passage in question from the book:

After the funeral, we went to a local bar for the wake proper. (for Navy SEAL and Medal of Honor winner Mike Monsoor who was killed in action in Iraq)

As always, there were a bunch of different things going on at our favorite nightspot, including a small party for some older SEALs and UDT members who were celebrating the anniversary of their graduation. Among them was a celebrity I'll call Scruff Face.

Scruff served in the military; most people seem to believe he was a SEAL. As far as I know, he was in service during the Vietnam conflict but not the actual war.

I was sitting with Ryan (a SEAL who was wounded and blinded in the Iraq war) and told him that Scruff was holding court with some of his buddies.

"I'd really like to meet him, " Ryan said.

"Sure". I got up and went over to Scruff and introduced myself. "Mr. Scruff Face, I have a young SEAL over here who's just come back from Iraq. He's been injured but he'd really like to meet you."

Well, Scruff kind of blew us off. Still, Ryan really wanted to meet him, so I brought him over. Scruff acted like he couldn't be bothered.

All right.

We went back over to our side of the bar and had a few more drinks. In the meantime, Scruff started running his mouth about the war and everything and anything he could connect to it. President Bush was an asshole. We were only over there because Bush wanted to show up his father. We were doing the wrong thing, killing men, woman and children and murdering.

And on and on. Scruff said he hates America and that's why he moved to Baja California. 9/11 was a conspiracy.

And on some more.

The guys were getting upset. Finally, I went over and tried to get him to cool it.

"We're all here in mourning." I told him. "Can you just cool it? Keep it down."

"You deserve to lose a few," he told me.

I was uncharacteristically level-headed at that moment.

"Look," I told him, "why don't we just step away from each other and go on our way?"

Scruff bowed up again. This time he swung.

Being level-headed and calm can last only so long. I laid him out.

Tables flew. Stuff happened. Scruff face ended up on the floor.

I left.

Quickly.

I have no way of knowing for sure, but rumor has it he showed up at the BUD/S graduation with a black eye.

That is the story that was proven to be untrue in the court proceedings. Jesse Ventura didn't say those things to Chris Kyle or any other SEAL. Chris Kyle did not hit Jesse Ventura. The entire episode never occurred. Or to put it another way, Chris Kyle lied. To put an even finer point on it, Chris Kyle lied to make himself look good.

 

[Hossfly]

The biggest two people on the planet to cash in on government service are Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Total conjecture. There are plenty who have gotten filthy rich from their government service, including Newt, Phil Gramm, Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Hank Paulson, Robert Rubin, etc.

....the Clintons are on welfare, the Messiah will have to sign up for unemployment and every Republican is wallowing in money.

I listed Robert Rubin, a Democrat. There are plenty from both parties.

So much for your theory.

I was talking about 2 POTUSs and their consorts.

 

[Blackrook]

Pretty good read:

Truth, Justice and the Curious Case of Chris Kyle

Despite the very high burden of proof, on July 19, 2014, Jesse Ventura, former Governor of Minnesota, WWF wrestler, TV show host and Former Navy SEAL (technically he was in the pre-cursor to SEALs, the UDT) won a defamation lawsuit against deceased former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, author of American Sniper to the tune of $1.8 million. In the book, Chris Kyle, claimed to have punched 'Scruff-face', later identified by Kyle as Jesse Ventura, in a SEAL bar in California after Ventura said some nasty things. Here is the passage in question from the book:

After the funeral, we went to a local bar for the wake proper. (for Navy SEAL and Medal of Honor winner Mike Monsoor who was killed in action in Iraq)

As always, there were a bunch of different things going on at our favorite nightspot, including a small party for some older SEALs and UDT members who were celebrating the anniversary of their graduation. Among them was a celebrity I'll call Scruff Face.

Scruff served in the military; most people seem to believe he was a SEAL. As far as I know, he was in service during the Vietnam conflict but not the actual war.

I was sitting with Ryan (a SEAL who was wounded and blinded in the Iraq war) and told him that Scruff was holding court with some of his buddies.

"I'd really like to meet him, " Ryan said.

"Sure". I got up and went over to Scruff and introduced myself. "Mr. Scruff Face, I have a young SEAL over here who's just come back from Iraq. He's been injured but he'd really like to meet you."

Well, Scruff kind of blew us off. Still, Ryan really wanted to meet him, so I brought him over. Scruff acted like he couldn't be bothered.

All right.

We went back over to our side of the bar and had a few more drinks. In the meantime, Scruff started running his mouth about the war and everything and anything he could connect to it. President Bush was an asshole. We were only over there because Bush wanted to show up his father. We were doing the wrong thing, killing men, woman and children and murdering.

And on and on. Scruff said he hates America and that's why he moved to Baja California. 9/11 was a conspiracy.

And on some more.

The guys were getting upset. Finally, I went over and tried to get him to cool it.

"We're all here in mourning." I told him. "Can you just cool it? Keep it down."

"You deserve to lose a few," he told me.

I was uncharacteristically level-headed at that moment.

"Look," I told him, "why don't we just step away from each other and go on our way?"

Scruff bowed up again. This time he swung.

Being level-headed and calm can last only so long. I laid him out.

Tables flew. Stuff happened. Scruff face ended up on the floor.

I left.

Quickly.

I have no way of knowing for sure, but rumor has it he showed up at the BUD/S graduation with a black eye.

That is the story that was proven to be untrue in the court proceedings. Jesse Ventura didn't say those things to Chris Kyle or any other SEAL. Chris Kyle did not hit Jesse Ventura. The entire episode never occurred. Or to put it another way, Chris Kyle lied. To put an even finer point on it, Chris Kyle lied to make himself look good.

Well, you don't give a damn about all the lies Obama and Hillary said after Benghazi. So why should we care what you think?

 

[Synthaholic]

Pretty good read:

Truth, Justice and the Curious Case of Chris Kyle

Despite the very high burden of proof, on July 19, 2014, Jesse Ventura, former Governor of Minnesota, WWF wrestler, TV show host and Former Navy SEAL (technically he was in the pre-cursor to SEALs, the UDT) won a defamation lawsuit against deceased former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, author of American Sniper to the tune of $1.8 million. In the book, Chris Kyle, claimed to have punched 'Scruff-face', later identified by Kyle as Jesse Ventura, in a SEAL bar in California after Ventura said some nasty things. Here is the passage in question from the book:

After the funeral, we went to a local bar for the wake proper. (for Navy SEAL and Medal of Honor winner Mike Monsoor who was killed in action in Iraq)

As always, there were a bunch of different things going on at our favorite nightspot, including a small party for some older SEALs and UDT members who were celebrating the anniversary of their graduation. Among them was a celebrity I'll call Scruff Face.

Scruff served in the military; most people seem to believe he was a SEAL. As far as I know, he was in service during the Vietnam conflict but not the actual war.

I was sitting with Ryan (a SEAL who was wounded and blinded in the Iraq war) and told him that Scruff was holding court with some of his buddies.

"I'd really like to meet him, " Ryan said.

"Sure". I got up and went over to Scruff and introduced myself. "Mr. Scruff Face, I have a young SEAL over here who's just come back from Iraq. He's been injured but he'd really like to meet you."

Well, Scruff kind of blew us off. Still, Ryan really wanted to meet him, so I brought him over. Scruff acted like he couldn't be bothered.

All right.

We went back over to our side of the bar and had a few more drinks. In the meantime, Scruff started running his mouth about the war and everything and anything he could connect to it. President Bush was an asshole. We were only over there because Bush wanted to show up his father. We were doing the wrong thing, killing men, woman and children and murdering.

And on and on. Scruff said he hates America and that's why he moved to Baja California. 9/11 was a conspiracy.

And on some more.

The guys were getting upset. Finally, I went over and tried to get him to cool it.

"We're all here in mourning." I told him. "Can you just cool it? Keep it down."

"You deserve to lose a few," he told me.

I was uncharacteristically level-headed at that moment.

"Look," I told him, "why don't we just step away from each other and go on our way?"

Scruff bowed up again. This time he swung.

Being level-headed and calm can last only so long. I laid him out.

Tables flew. Stuff happened. Scruff face ended up on the floor.

I left.

Quickly.

I have no way of knowing for sure, but rumor has it he showed up at the BUD/S graduation with a black eye.

That is the story that was proven to be untrue in the court proceedings. Jesse Ventura didn't say those things to Chris Kyle or any other SEAL. Chris Kyle did not hit Jesse Ventura. The entire episode never occurred. Or to put it another way, Chris Kyle lied. To put an even finer point on it, Chris Kyle lied to make himself look good.

Because Jesse Ventura is such a reliable source for the truth.

And the court agrees.

 

[Synthaholic]

Having read the book, I went and did some more research of Chris Kyle and his life. The things I found were pretty astounding. If you thought the Jesse Ventura fight was a hell of a yarn, wait until you get a load of some of the other stories Chris Kyle told about himself but left out of his book.

Chris told many people, and some reporters, that just after his return from Iraq in 2009, he was carjacked by two men at a gas station on a remote Texas highway. Chris asked the men if he could reach into his truck to get his keys, and as he did he pulled a pistol from his waistband and shot both men in the chest from under his armpit. The two men were killed instantly. Chris called the police and waited for them while leaning against his truck. The police came, Chris handed them a phone number to call at the Pentagon. The cops called the number, and the people at the Pentagon told the cops that Chris Kyle was a war hero and a Navy SEAL. The police also went inside and watched the gas station surveillance video of the incident. The cops then let Chris go on his way. Chris claimed he got emails from cops all across the country after the incident thanking him for "keeping the streets clean". Great story. Except none of it is true. Not a word. There were no carjackers, no dead bodies, no cops, none of it. He made the whole thing up. His big mistake was then telling the story to his SEAL friend, Marcus Lutrell, author of Lone Survivor, and Marcus put the story in his second book, Service: A Navy SEAL at Work. Now it wasn't just a tall-tale, it was in the public record, and it is demonstrably a lie. The New Yorker magazine and other journalists have investigated the story. They all come to the same conclusion. There were no carjackers. There were no dead bodies. There were no cops. None of it happened. No police departments know anything about it, no coroner ever saw the bodies, no gas station had any surveillance video or ever heard of such a thing and no cops ever responded to the scene and called the Pentagon.

Good thing Jesse Ventura never tells stories.

I don't see anyone suing Ventura for being a liar.

 

[Synthaholic]

The biggest two people on the planet to cash in on government service are Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Total conjecture. There are plenty who have gotten filthy rich from their government service, including Newt, Phil Gramm, Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Hank Paulson, Robert Rubin, etc.

Conjecture in what alternate reality? The Clinton Foundation is a cash cow disguised as a philanthropic organization.

Did Sean tell you that?

 

[Synthaholic]

The biggest two people on the planet to cash in on government service are Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Total conjecture. There are plenty who have gotten filthy rich from their government service, including Newt, Phil Gramm, Sarah Palin, Dick Cheney, Hank Paulson, Robert Rubin, etc.

That is true, but none of them complained when they left their government jobs that they were dead broke. And, none of them got $200,000 and more for 30 minute speeches as the Clinton's did.

Ummm...Reagan got $1 Million for a speech that didn't last an hour. And that was the early 1990s. How much do you think Sarah Palin gets? Newt? Jeb? Carson? They are all rolling in the paid speech dough.

 

[Synthaholic]

Having read the book, I went and did some more research of Chris Kyle and his life. The things I found were pretty astounding. If you thought the Jesse Ventura fight was a hell of a yarn, wait until you get a load of some of the other stories Chris Kyle told about himself but left out of his book.

Chris told many people, and some reporters, that just after his return from Iraq in 2009, he was carjacked by two men at a gas station on a remote Texas highway. Chris asked the men if he could reach into his truck to get his keys, and as he did he pulled a pistol from his waistband and shot both men in the chest from under his armpit. The two men were killed instantly. Chris called the police and waited for them while leaning against his truck. The police came, Chris handed them a phone number to call at the Pentagon. The cops called the number, and the people at the Pentagon told the cops that Chris Kyle was a war hero and a Navy SEAL. The police also went inside and watched the gas station surveillance video of the incident. The cops then let Chris go on his way. Chris claimed he got emails from cops all across the country after the incident thanking him for "keeping the streets clean". Great story. Except none of it is true. Not a word. There were no carjackers, no dead bodies, no cops, none of it. He made the whole thing up. His big mistake was then telling the story to his SEAL friend, Marcus Lutrell, author of Lone Survivor, and Marcus put the story in his second book, Service: A Navy SEAL at Work. Now it wasn't just a tall-tale, it was in the public record, and it is demonstrably a lie. The New Yorker magazine and other journalists have investigated the story. They all come to the same conclusion. There were no carjackers. There were no dead bodies. There were no cops. None of it happened. No police departments know anything about it, no coroner ever saw the bodies, no gas station had any surveillance video or ever heard of such a thing and no cops ever responded to the scene and called the Pentagon.

Good thing Jesse Ventura never tells stories.

Deflect much?

Sent from my BN NookHD+ using Tapatalk

From what? Jesse Ventura's sterling reputation for scrupulous honesty?

Which you cannot refute, apparently.

 

[Synthaholic]

I'll hold judgement until I see Eastwood's movie recently out, "American Sniper".

Its a great movie and Synthia and his ilk aren't fit to polish Chris Kyle's boots.

Kyle was a great killer.

Terrible person.