Chris Kyle: American Liar

[Blackrook]

It's pretty hard to win a lawsuit when you're dead. All we get is the other guy's story.

 

[Missourian]

Kyle massacred 100s of people from a safe distance. Some were women and children. Then? He came back and acted like a real schmuck, lying about things and self aggrandizing. He put his "unique" mental therapy to the test and got offed.

Couldn't happen to a "nicer guy".

I forgot. All the enemies liberals want killed are Americans

 

[Blackrook]

Jesse Ventura is a lying douchebag, as he proved when the said that election fraud was not a problem in the U.S.

 

[Missourian]

When Ventura dies...I would happily piss on his grave...but who had time to stand in line all day?

 

[Claudette]

You bet he was a great killer. A killer who Killed to protect his team. A killer who was greatly appreciated by the SEALs and any team he was part of.

I'd bet he's a killer you'd want watching your back if you ever landed in the shit. Bet he'd be a killer you'd approve of then and you sure a shit would love that he's a killer.



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[Sallow]

Kyle massacred 100s of people from a safe distance. Some were women and children. Then? He came back and acted like a real schmuck, lying about things and self aggrandizing. He put his "unique" mental therapy to the test and got offed.

Couldn't happen to a "nicer guy".

I forgot. All the enemies liberals want killed are Americans

Iraq was never an enemy. It was invaded, illegally. That's the trouble with you folks. Law is subjective.

 

[Sallow]

It's pretty hard to win a lawsuit when you're dead. All we get is the other guy's story.

Kyle lied and defamed another person in doing so.

End of story.

 

[Sallow]

I'll hold judgement until I see Eastwood's movie recently out, "American Sniper".

Its a great movie and Synthia and his ilk aren't fit to polish Chris Kyle's boots.

Kyle was a great killer.

Terrible person.

A perfect Christian.

 

[Liminal]

Pretty good read:

Truth, Justice and the Curious Case of Chris Kyle

Despite the very high burden of proof, on July 19, 2014, Jesse Ventura, former Governor of Minnesota, WWF wrestler, TV show host and Former Navy SEAL (technically he was in the pre-cursor to SEALs, the UDT) won a defamation lawsuit against deceased former Navy SEAL Chris Kyle, author of American Sniper to the tune of $1.8 million. In the book, Chris Kyle, claimed to have punched 'Scruff-face', later identified by Kyle as Jesse Ventura, in a SEAL bar in California after Ventura said some nasty things. Here is the passage in question from the book:

After the funeral, we went to a local bar for the wake proper. (for Navy SEAL and Medal of Honor winner Mike Monsoor who was killed in action in Iraq)

As always, there were a bunch of different things going on at our favorite nightspot, including a small party for some older SEALs and UDT members who were celebrating the anniversary of their graduation. Among them was a celebrity I'll call Scruff Face.

Scruff served in the military; most people seem to believe he was a SEAL. As far as I know, he was in service during the Vietnam conflict but not the actual war.

I was sitting with Ryan (a SEAL who was wounded and blinded in the Iraq war) and told him that Scruff was holding court with some of his buddies.

"I'd really like to meet him, " Ryan said.

"Sure". I got up and went over to Scruff and introduced myself. "Mr. Scruff Face, I have a young SEAL over here who's just come back from Iraq. He's been injured but he'd really like to meet you."

Well, Scruff kind of blew us off. Still, Ryan really wanted to meet him, so I brought him over. Scruff acted like he couldn't be bothered.

All right.

We went back over to our side of the bar and had a few more drinks. In the meantime, Scruff started running his mouth about the war and everything and anything he could connect to it. President Bush was an asshole. We were only over there because Bush wanted to show up his father. We were doing the wrong thing, killing men, woman and children and murdering.

And on and on. Scruff said he hates America and that's why he moved to Baja California. 9/11 was a conspiracy.

And on some more.

The guys were getting upset. Finally, I went over and tried to get him to cool it.

"We're all here in mourning." I told him. "Can you just cool it? Keep it down."

"You deserve to lose a few," he told me.

I was uncharacteristically level-headed at that moment.

"Look," I told him, "why don't we just step away from each other and go on our way?"

Scruff bowed up again. This time he swung.

Being level-headed and calm can last only so long. I laid him out.

Tables flew. Stuff happened. Scruff face ended up on the floor.

I left.

Quickly.

I have no way of knowing for sure, but rumor has it he showed up at the BUD/S graduation with a black eye.

That is the story that was proven to be untrue in the court proceedings. Jesse Ventura didn't say those things to Chris Kyle or any other SEAL. Chris Kyle did not hit Jesse Ventura. The entire episode never occurred. Or to put it another way, Chris Kyle lied. To put an even finer point on it, Chris Kyle lied to make himself look good.

Because Jesse Ventura is such a reliable source for the truth.

And the court agrees.

And we know courts of law always dispense justice based on the truth.

 

[Liminal]

Having read the book, I went and did some more research of Chris Kyle and his life. The things I found were pretty astounding. If you thought the Jesse Ventura fight was a hell of a yarn, wait until you get a load of some of the other stories Chris Kyle told about himself but left out of his book.

Chris told many people, and some reporters, that just after his return from Iraq in 2009, he was carjacked by two men at a gas station on a remote Texas highway. Chris asked the men if he could reach into his truck to get his keys, and as he did he pulled a pistol from his waistband and shot both men in the chest from under his armpit. The two men were killed instantly. Chris called the police and waited for them while leaning against his truck. The police came, Chris handed them a phone number to call at the Pentagon. The cops called the number, and the people at the Pentagon told the cops that Chris Kyle was a war hero and a Navy SEAL. The police also went inside and watched the gas station surveillance video of the incident. The cops then let Chris go on his way. Chris claimed he got emails from cops all across the country after the incident thanking him for "keeping the streets clean". Great story. Except none of it is true. Not a word. There were no carjackers, no dead bodies, no cops, none of it. He made the whole thing up. His big mistake was then telling the story to his SEAL friend, Marcus Lutrell, author of Lone Survivor, and Marcus put the story in his second book, Service: A Navy SEAL at Work. Now it wasn't just a tall-tale, it was in the public record, and it is demonstrably a lie. The New Yorker magazine and other journalists have investigated the story. They all come to the same conclusion. There were no carjackers. There were no dead bodies. There were no cops. None of it happened. No police departments know anything about it, no coroner ever saw the bodies, no gas station had any surveillance video or ever heard of such a thing and no cops ever responded to the scene and called the Pentagon.

Good thing Jesse Ventura never tells stories.

Deflect much?

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From what? Jesse Ventura's sterling reputation for scrupulous honesty?

Which you cannot refute, apparently.

Jesse Ventura is such a compelling nut job, he wouldn't lie.....now would he.

 

[Liminal]

Having read the book, I went and did some more research of Chris Kyle and his life. The things I found were pretty astounding. If you thought the Jesse Ventura fight was a hell of a yarn, wait until you get a load of some of the other stories Chris Kyle told about himself but left out of his book.

Chris told many people, and some reporters, that just after his return from Iraq in 2009, he was carjacked by two men at a gas station on a remote Texas highway. Chris asked the men if he could reach into his truck to get his keys, and as he did he pulled a pistol from his waistband and shot both men in the chest from under his armpit. The two men were killed instantly. Chris called the police and waited for them while leaning against his truck. The police came, Chris handed them a phone number to call at the Pentagon. The cops called the number, and the people at the Pentagon told the cops that Chris Kyle was a war hero and a Navy SEAL. The police also went inside and watched the gas station surveillance video of the incident. The cops then let Chris go on his way. Chris claimed he got emails from cops all across the country after the incident thanking him for "keeping the streets clean". Great story. Except none of it is true. Not a word. There were no carjackers, no dead bodies, no cops, none of it. He made the whole thing up. His big mistake was then telling the story to his SEAL friend, Marcus Lutrell, author of Lone Survivor, and Marcus put the story in his second book, Service: A Navy SEAL at Work. Now it wasn't just a tall-tale, it was in the public record, and it is demonstrably a lie. The New Yorker magazine and other journalists have investigated the story. They all come to the same conclusion. There were no carjackers. There were no dead bodies. There were no cops. None of it happened. No police departments know anything about it, no coroner ever saw the bodies, no gas station had any surveillance video or ever heard of such a thing and no cops ever responded to the scene and called the Pentagon.

Good thing Jesse Ventura never tells stories.

I don't see anyone suing Ventura for being a liar.

Bashing Chris Kyle has become a favorite leisure activity for superficial politically correct dilettantes at colleges and universities across the nation. You reflect that level of insight.

 

[Dot Com]

So liminal's argument is that he doesn't agree w/ what Gov Ventura did after leaving 'nam serving as a UDT? Is that about the gist of your argument ASSCLOWN?

 

[Liminal]

So liminal's argument is that he doesn't agree w/ what Gov Ventura did after leaving 'nam serving as a UDT? Is that about the gist of your argument ASSCLOWN?

No dumbshit, I'm saying this story looks like Ventura trying to insert himself into the spotlight because no one gives a shit or pays attention to him any more.

 

[Liminal]

And since Chris Kyle's death Ventura had the lawsuit changed to name Kyle's widow and child as the responsible parties......because it's all about Jesse Ventura's honor and reputation.

 

[Liminal]

I'll hold judgement until I see Eastwood's movie recently out, "American Sniper".

Its a great movie and Synthia and his ilk aren't fit to polish Chris Kyle's boots.

Kyle was a great killer.

Terrible person.

Aren't you embarrassed by these kind of superficial, simple minded declarations? You should be.

 

[Dot Com]

Kyle was a fabulist telling all those tall tales about car jackings & post katrina vigilante action

 

[Liminal]

Kyle was a fabulist telling all those tall tales about car jackings & post katrina vigilante action

Looks like another vote for superficial and simple minded.

 

[Dot Com]

He simply "made stuff up". Getting pulled over and his license check being routed to the Pentagon ROFL

He should've thought about who would suffer if his lies came under scrutiny and exposed

 

[Liminal]

He simply "made stuff up". Getting pulled over and his license check being routed to the Pentagon ROFL

He should've thought about who would suffer if his lies came under scrutiny and exposed

Holy shit, you really are a self righteous little prick, aren't you.

 

[Dot Com]

He simply "made stuff up". Getting pulled over and his license check being routed to the Pentagon ROFL

He should've thought about who would suffer if his lies came under scrutiny and exposed

Holy shit, you really are a self righteous little prick, aren't you.

So..... you have no factual rebuttal? Typical of you