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..and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature.
..and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature.
and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.
There, peer reviewed
..and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.
and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.
Good post but please don't hold your breath waiting for any of these denier cultists to acknowledge any point of fact, no matter how well you substantiate it with scientific evidence. Denying reality is their 'thing', and they aren't going to let you confuse them with the facts of the matter. When you conclusively debunk the errors, lies and misinformation in their posts, they will usually just ignore you and change the subject, sliding off into one of their others myths. They much prefer to live in their rightwingnut fantasy-world, filled with conspiracies theories and anti-science myths about evolution, global warming, vaccines, faked moon landings, gay agendas, Obama's birth certificate and God knows what. I appreciated all the good work you do here to debunk the misinformation and lies that these denier cult dupes parrot at the behest of their puppet master in the fossil fuel industry. It is good that this drivel gets debunked with the scientific facts but don't ever expect to convince any of these cultists that they are mistaken. Deprogramming a Moonie or a Mormon would be a snap in comparison to cracking the denier cultists' shell of delusion and partisan ideological insanity...and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.
and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.
Oh dear.
Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.
In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.
Quick Facts on Ice Shelves
The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.
If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:
The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change
Please acknowledge this point.
Actually, I just shredded your claim that the climate models do a good job.That's a hoot. You have never yet managed to even come close to substantiating any of your retarded denier cult "claims" with any real evidence, let alone actually "proving" them.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/envir...e-have-predicted-it-should-5.html#post5942623
Really? Where have you done that?Oh davedumb, I long ago gave up on "convincing" clueless retards like you. Now I'm content with just mocking you for the ignorant moronic dupe that you are, as I debunk your denier cult myths and lies with the scientific facts.
Oh....like right here where I debunk the thread you started that you just mentioned, you hopelessly confused retard.
Also pretty much every time I encounter your nonsensical drivel and bullshit on here, I give it a thorough debunking. Easy to do with the moronic anti-scientific crap you post.
Since you start off with a falsehood, everything that follows may be safely discarded.The link in your OP leads to a denier cult blog which cherry-picks, mangles and distorts the science it picks up from other sites. The interpretation they put on it has nothing to do with the actual science.See, now you're just lying. The OP is a summary of a paper published in Climate Dynamics journal -- not a blog.Oh....like right here where I debunk the thread you started that you just mentioned, you hopelessly confused retard.
Also pretty much every time I encounter your nonsensical drivel and bullshit on here, I give it a thorough debunking. Easy to do with the moronic anti-scientific crap you post.
Yeah, that's what everybody says about your fraudulent posts, davedumb.Since you start off with a falsehood, everything that follows may be safely discarded.The link in your OP leads to a denier cult blog which cherry-picks, mangles and distorts the science it picks up from other sites. The interpretation they put on it has nothing to do with the actual science.See, now you're just lying. The OP is a summary of a paper published in Climate Dynamics journal -- not a blog.
It takes you to this totally discredited "CO2Science" blog.
..and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.
and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.
Oh dear.
Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.
In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.
Quick Facts on Ice Shelves
The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.
If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:
The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change
Please acknowledge this point.
"Black hole"???.....you must mean the inside of your skull, CrazyFruitcake.If we added CO2 to a black hole...well the consequences are just too horrible to even contemplate
You are, of course, referring to yourself and your denier cult butt-buddies...and the eastern antarctic ice sheet, the largest in the world, keeps on cooling and growing larger.
and the largest ice sheet in the world by far, the eastern antarctic, keeps on growing in size and dropping in temperature because of manmade global warming.
Oh dear.
Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.
In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.
Quick Facts on Ice Shelves
The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.
If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:
The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change
Please acknowledge this point.
Oh my oh my, the masters of cherry picking are at it again....
That's another one of your many delusions, walleyedretard. In fact, neither one of those sites shows anything of the sort. The first site you quoted is a denier cult blog and it is totally full of crap about everything. Your second citation explains why the sea ice is growing slightly around Antarctica due to climate change. Here's the actual facts that debunk the lies and misinformation on that denier cult blog.Below are just TWO of the dozens of sites that show categorically you're full of horse dung. And one of them is one of your very own warmist sites...FAIL.
You are, of course, referring to yourself and your denier cult butt-buddies.Oh dear.
Antarctic sea ice anomalies have roughly followed the pattern of warming, with the greatest declines occurring off the coast of West Antarctica. East Antarctica sea ice has been increasing since 1978, though not at a statistically significant rate.
In recent years, ice shelves on the Antarctic Peninsula and along the northern coast of Canada have experienced rapid disintegration. In March 2008, the Wilkins Ice Shelf in Antarctica retreated by more than 400 square kilometers (160 square miles). Later that summer, several ice shelves along Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada broke up in a matter of days.
Quick Facts on Ice Shelves
The total mass of Antarctic ice is actually decreasing.
If you want to understand why the eastern sa ice is slowly increasing while western ice rapidly drecreasing, here it is:
The general trend shows that a warming climate in the southern hemisphere would transport more moisture to Antarctica, causing the interior ice sheets to grow, while calving events along the coast will increase, causing these areas to shrink. A 2006 paper derived from satellite data, measures changes in the gravity of the ice mass, suggests that the total amount of ice in Antarctica has begun decreasing in the past few years.[9] Another recent study compared the ice leaving the ice sheet, by measuring the ice velocity and thickness along the coast, to the amount of snow accumulation over the continent. This found that the East Antarctic Ice Sheet was in balance but the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing mass. This was largely due to acceleration of ice streams such as Pine Island Glacier. These results agree closely with the gravity change
Please acknowledge this point.
Oh my oh my, the masters of cherry picking are at it again....
That's another one of your many delusions, walleyedretard. In fact, neither one of those sites shows anything of the sort. The first site you quoted is a denier cult blog and it is totally full of crap about everything. Your second citation explains why the sea ice is growing slightly around Antarctica due to climate change. Here's the actual facts that debunk the lies and misinformation on that denier cult blog.Below are just TWO of the dozens of sites that show categorically you're full of horse dung. And one of them is one of your very own warmist sites...FAIL.
Ice Shelves - Disintegration
National Snow and Ice Data Center
State of the Cryosphere
(excerpts)
Over the past several decades meteorological records have revealed atmospheric warming on the Antarctic Peninsula, and the northernmost ice shelves on the peninsula have retreated dramatically (Vaughan and Doake 1996). The most pronounced ice shelf retreat has occurred on the Larsen Ice Shelf, located on the eastern side of the Antarctic Peninsula's northern tip. The shelf is divided into four regions from north to south: A, B, C, and D. In January 1995, after several decades of warming and years of gradual retreat, the Larsen A Ice Shelf underwent a type of retreat that was, at that time, unprecedented. The breakup pattern in the Larsen A, in which roughly 1,500 square kilometers suddenly disintegrated rapidly into small sliver-shaped icebergs, appeared to indicate a new style of ice shelf response to pronounced climate warming. To the south, the Larsen B saw the calving of a 70- by 25-kilometer iceberg. This ordinary calving event received more public attention but the disintegration event was more significant to researchers studying the area. (See Antarctic Ice Shelves and Icebergs: Events in the Northern Larsen Ice Shelf and Their Importance.) In 2002, satellites recorded an even larger disintegration than what occurred in 1995 (see Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events: Larsen B Ice Shelf Collapses in Antarctica). Between 31 January and 5 March 2002, approximately 3,250 square kilometers of the Larsen B shattered, releasing 720 billion tons of ice into the Weddell Sea. It was the largest single disintegration event in 30 years of ice shelf monitoring. Preliminary studies of sediment cores suggest that it may have been this ice shelf's first collapse in 12,000 years (see Larsen Ice Shelf Breakup Events: Seafloor Evidence of Larsen Ice Sheet Breakup).
Also on the Antarctic Peninsula, southwest of the Larsen Ice Shelf, is the Wilkins Ice Shelf. In 1998, the northern part of that ice shelf broke up, although the ice fragments remained in place for the next decade. In 2008, three significant breakups occurred. The first breakup began in late February 2008, on the western part of the shelf, between Charcot and Latady Islands. This breakup style was very similar to the event previously seen on the Larsen A and B. The event occurred during the Southern Hemisphere summer, after an extensive melt season, although no melt ponds were observed. Beginning in May 2008, the western part of the shelf underwent further retreat, again in the disintegration style, despite cold autumn surface conditions. Later in June and July, a substantial portion of the northern part of the shelf also broke up. The breakups occurring between May and July 2008 were especially significant because they happened during the Southern Hemisphere's cold season. The Wilkins Ice Shelf had broken up in 1998, but the ice blocks remained frozen in place for a decade, held together partly by the accumulation of snowfall. Radar images acquired in 2008 showed a darkening in the areas between ice blocks, followed by the gradual disappearance of these snowy, icy areas. The 2008 imagery indicated thinning between ice blocks, despite winter conditions, and suggested melting from beneath, due to warm water under the ice shelf. As a result of ice loss to the north, rifts south of the 1998 breakup area began to widen, leading to a series of rapid moderate to large iceberg calvings. Through late winter of 2008, the remaining two-thirds of the shelf stabilized between Latady and Alexander Islands, although fresh cracks appeared on the shelf in late November 2008. In April 2009, the ice bridge connecting the remnant shelf to ice fragments around Charcot Island gave way.