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How Climatologists determine the extent of ManMade Global Warming
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CO2 is higher now than at any time in the last 15 million years.
And CH4 is higher than it has been in that period by far, over 250% of what has been normal for tens of millions of years.
Combine that with the industrial GHGs and the effective GHG is equivelant to over 450 ppm of CO2 right now.
Huh?
Trends in Carbon Dioxide
CO2 is higher now than at any time in the last 15 million years.
And CH4 is higher than it has been in that period by far, over 250% of what has been normal for tens of millions of years.
Combine that with the industrial GHGs and the effective GHG is equivelant to over 450 ppm of CO2 right now.
Huh?
Trends in Carbon Dioxide
CO2 at 385+ ppm. CH4, at 1.8 ppm, and increase of 1.1 ppm, equivelent to 30 to 40 ppm of CO2 in warming power. CH4 is 20 to 25 times as effective of a GHG as CO2, and oxidizes into CO2 and H2O. The Ch4 residence time is about 10 to 15 years, and the CO2 derived from it, about 200 years. The H20, especially that created in the stratoshere, adds even more 'kick' to the CH4, so the estimate of 30 to 40 times as effective as CO2 is on the conservative side.
Then we have the industrial GHGs, some of which are more than 10,000 times as effective a GHG as CO2. So you add 35 ppm of CO2 for the CH4, and about the same for the industrial GHGs, and you are up to the equivelant of 450 ppm of CO2.
Hotter, Faster: New Report Suggests Climate Change Could Happen Even Faster Than Previously Predicted |Triple Pundit
And Schellnhuber hopes that will be enough because time is getting short. Global warming has often been sold as something nebulous that could bring ruination several generations into the future, but a new report prepared for the British government and presented at the Oxford conference is warning that most people alive today will see dangerous levels of warming. According to scientists at the Met Office in the UK, climate change will be a problem for our children not our great-grandchildren with a 4°C (7°F) rise temperatures expected by 2060 if humanity fails to cut emissions significantly. A temperature increase of this magnitude would likely threaten the water supply of half the worlds population, wipe out up to half of animal and plant species, and swamp low-lying coastal areas. Local impacts, in places like Africa and the Arctic, could be even more severe, leading to much greater temperature increases.
Maybe, if we survive the arctic temps of the next several winters. The growing ice caps of Antarctia. Supposedly half the Arctic ice caps are gone. Where's the half foot rise in sea level? Just the alarmist cry of a soon to be unfunded hack.
CO2 is higher now than at any time in the last 15 million years.
And CH4 is higher than it has been in that period by far, over 250% of what has been normal for tens of millions of years.
Combine that with the industrial GHGs and the effective GHG is equivelant to over 450 ppm of CO2 right now.
Huh?
Trends in Carbon Dioxide
CO2 at 385+ ppm. CH4, at 1.8 ppm, and increase of 1.1 ppm, equivelent to 30 to 40 ppm of CO2 in warming power. CH4 is 20 to 25 times as effective of a GHG as CO2, and oxidizes into CO2 and H2O. The Ch4 residence time is about 10 to 15 years, and the CO2 derived from it, about 200 years. The H20, especially that created in the stratoshere, adds even more 'kick' to the CH4, so the estimate of 30 to 40 times as effective as CO2 is on the conservative side.
Then we have the industrial GHGs, some of which are more than 10,000 times as effective a GHG as CO2. So you add 35 ppm of CO2 for the CH4, and about the same for the industrial GHGs, and you are up to the equivelant of 450 ppm of CO2.
* Over the past 25 years temperatures have increased at a rate of 0.19 degree Celsius per decade. The trend has continued over the last 10 years despite a decrease in radiation from the sun.
* The studies show extreme hot temperature events have increased, extreme cold temperature events have decreased, heavy rain or snow has become heavier, while there has been increase in drought as well.
They also show that the intensity of cyclones has increased in the past three decades in line with rising tropical ocean temperatures.
* Satellites show recent global average sea level rise (3.4 mm/year over the past 15 years) to be about 80 percent above IPCC predictions. This acceleration is consistent with a doubling in contribution from melting of glaciers, ice caps, and the Greenland and West-Antarctic ice sheets.
New estimates of ocean heat uptake are 50 percent higher than previous calculations. Global ocean surface temperature reached the warmest ever recorded in June, July and August 2009. Ocean acidification and ocean de-oxygenation due to global warming have been identified as potentially devastating for large parts of the marine ecosystem.
* By 2100, global sea level is likely to rise at least twice as much as projected by the IPCC in 2007; if emissions are unmitigated the rise may well exceed one metre.
The sea level will continue to rise for centuries after global temperatures have been stabilised, and several metres of sea level rise must be expected over the next few centuries.
* A wide array of satellite and ice measurements demonstrate that both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are melting at an increasing rate. Melting of glaciers and ice-caps in other parts of the world has also accelerated since 1990.
The contribution of glaciers and ice-caps to global sea level rise has increased from 0.8 mm per year in the 1990s to 1.2 mm per year today. The adjustment of glaciers and ice caps to present climate alone is expected to raise sea level by about 18 cm. Under warming conditions they may contribute as much as around 55 cm by 2100.
The net loss of ice from the Greenland ice sheet has accelerated since the mid-1990s and is now contributing 0.7 mm per year to sea level rise due to both increased melting and accelerated ice flow. Antarctica is also losing ice mass at an increasing rate, mostly from the West Antarctic ice sheet due to increased ice flow. Antarctica is currently contributing to sea level rise at a rate nearly equal to Greenland.
* Summer-time melting of Arctic sea-ice has accelerated far beyond the expectations of climate models. The area of summertime sea-ice 2007-09 was about 40 percent less than the average prediction from IPCC climate models in the 2007 report.
* The studies say avoiding tropical deforestation could prevent up to 20 percent of carbon dioxide emissions.
* New ice-core records confirm the importance of GHG for temperatures on earth, and show that carbon dioxide levels are higher now than they have been during the last 800,000 years.
Climate change far worse than thought before - Global Warming - Environment - Home - The Times of India
Hotter, Faster: New Report Suggests Climate Change Could Happen Even Faster Than Previously Predicted |Triple Pundit
And Schellnhuber hopes that will be enough because time is getting short. Global warming has often been sold as something nebulous that could bring ruination several generations into the future, but a new report prepared for the British government and presented at the Oxford conference is warning that most people alive today will see dangerous levels of warming. According to scientists at the Met Office in the UK, climate change will be a problem for our children not our great-grandchildren with a 4°C (7°F) rise temperatures expected by 2060 if humanity fails to cut emissions significantly. A temperature increase of this magnitude would likely threaten the water supply of half the worlds population, wipe out up to half of animal and plant species, and swamp low-lying coastal areas. Local impacts, in places like Africa and the Arctic, could be even more severe, leading to much greater temperature increases.
Maybe, if we survive the arctic temps of the next several winters. The growing ice caps of Antarctia. Supposedly half the Arctic ice caps are gone. Where's the half foot rise in sea level? Just the alarmist cry of a soon to be unfunded hack.
Antarctica is losing ice.
NASA - NASA Finds Vast Regions of West Antarctica Melted in Recent Past
NASA Finds Vast Regions of West Antarctica Melted in Recent Past05.15.07 A team of NASA and university scientists has found clear evidence that extensive areas of snow melted in west Antarctica in January 2005 in response to warm temperatures. This was the first widespread Antarctic melting ever detected with NASA's QuikScat satellite and the most significant melt observed using satellites during the past three decades. Combined, the affected regions encompassed an area as big as California.
Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., and Konrad Steffen, director of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, led the team. Using data from QuikScat, they measured snowfall accumulation and melt in Antarctica and Greenland from July 1999 through July 2005.
Image right: NASA's QuikScat satellite detected extensive areas of snowmelt, shown in yellow and red, in west Antarctica in January 2005. Image credit:
* Over the past 25 years temperatures have increased at a rate of 0.19 degree Celsius per decade. The trend has continued over the last 10 years despite a decrease in radiation from the sun.
* The studies show extreme hot temperature events have increased, extreme cold temperature events have decreased, heavy rain or snow has become heavier, while there has been increase in drought as well.
They also show that the intensity of cyclones has increased in the past three decades in line with rising tropical ocean temperatures.
* Satellites show recent global average sea level rise (3.4 mm/year over the past 15 years) to be about 80 percent above IPCC predictions. This acceleration is consistent with a doubling in contribution from melting of glaciers, ice caps, and the Greenland and West-Antarctic ice sheets.
New estimates of ocean heat uptake are 50 percent higher than previous calculations. Global ocean surface temperature reached the warmest ever recorded in June, July and August 2009. Ocean acidification and ocean de-oxygenation due to global warming have been identified as potentially devastating for large parts of the marine ecosystem.
* By 2100, global sea level is likely to rise at least twice as much as projected by the IPCC in 2007; if emissions are unmitigated the rise may well exceed one metre.
The sea level will continue to rise for centuries after global temperatures have been stabilised, and several metres of sea level rise must be expected over the next few centuries.
* A wide array of satellite and ice measurements demonstrate that both the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are melting at an increasing rate. Melting of glaciers and ice-caps in other parts of the world has also accelerated since 1990.
The contribution of glaciers and ice-caps to global sea level rise has increased from 0.8 mm per year in the 1990s to 1.2 mm per year today. The adjustment of glaciers and ice caps to present climate alone is expected to raise sea level by about 18 cm. Under warming conditions they may contribute as much as around 55 cm by 2100.
The net loss of ice from the Greenland ice sheet has accelerated since the mid-1990s and is now contributing 0.7 mm per year to sea level rise due to both increased melting and accelerated ice flow. Antarctica is also losing ice mass at an increasing rate, mostly from the West Antarctic ice sheet due to increased ice flow. Antarctica is currently contributing to sea level rise at a rate nearly equal to Greenland.
* Summer-time melting of Arctic sea-ice has accelerated far beyond the expectations of climate models. The area of summertime sea-ice 2007-09 was about 40 percent less than the average prediction from IPCC climate models in the 2007 report.
* The studies say avoiding tropical deforestation could prevent up to 20 percent of carbon dioxide emissions.
* New ice-core records confirm the importance of GHG for temperatures on earth, and show that carbon dioxide levels are higher now than they have been during the last 800,000 years.
Climate change far worse than thought before - Global Warming - Environment - Home - The Times of India
World Climate Report » Antarctic Ice Melt at Lowest Levels in Satellite Era
The ice melt across during the Antarctic summer (October-January) of 2008-2009 was the lowest ever recorded in the satellite history.
How does preventing deforestation reduce emissions?
The temperature across the last 10 years decreased and did not increase by .19 degrees.
The Argo array of Buoys showed a decrease in ocean temperature across the years from 2003 to 2008.
How could new ice cores reflect anything about CO2 increasing temperature when ice Cores ALWAYS show the role of CO2 to be a resp[onse to temperature.
Who wrote this steaming pile of excrement? It's factually wrong and scientifically baseless.
Hotter, Faster: New Report Suggests Climate Change Could Happen Even Faster Than Previously Predicted |Triple Pundit
And Schellnhuber hopes that will be enough because time is getting short. Global warming has often been sold as something nebulous that could bring ruination several generations into the future, but a new report prepared for the British government and presented at the Oxford conference is warning that most people alive today will see dangerous levels of warming. According to scientists at the Met Office in the UK, climate change will be a problem for our children not our great-grandchildren with a 4°C (7°F) rise temperatures expected by 2060 if humanity fails to cut emissions significantly. A temperature increase of this magnitude would likely threaten the water supply of half the worlds population, wipe out up to half of animal and plant species, and swamp low-lying coastal areas. Local impacts, in places like Africa and the Arctic, could be even more severe, leading to much greater temperature increases.
Maybe, if we survive the arctic temps of the next several winters. The growing ice caps of Antarctia. Supposedly half the Arctic ice caps are gone. Where's the half foot rise in sea level? Just the alarmist cry of a soon to be unfunded hack.
Antarctica is losing ice.
NASA - NASA Finds Vast Regions of West Antarctica Melted in Recent Past
NASA Finds Vast Regions of West Antarctica Melted in Recent Past05.15.07 A team of NASA and university scientists has found clear evidence that extensive areas of snow melted in west Antarctica in January 2005 in response to warm temperatures. This was the first widespread Antarctic melting ever detected with NASA's QuikScat satellite and the most significant melt observed using satellites during the past three decades. Combined, the affected regions encompassed an area as big as California.
Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., and Konrad Steffen, director of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, led the team. Using data from QuikScat, they measured snowfall accumulation and melt in Antarctica and Greenland from July 1999 through July 2005.
Image right: NASA's QuikScat satellite detected extensive areas of snowmelt, shown in yellow and red, in west Antarctica in January 2005. Image credit:
This church is under attack.LOL
Keep quoting debunked IPCC data like that will suddenly make it accurate
Maybe, if we survive the arctic temps of the next several winters. The growing ice caps of Antarctia. Supposedly half the Arctic ice caps are gone. Where's the half foot rise in sea level? Just the alarmist cry of a soon to be unfunded hack.
Antarctica is losing ice.
NASA - NASA Finds Vast Regions of West Antarctica Melted in Recent Past
NASA Finds Vast Regions of West Antarctica Melted in Recent Past05.15.07 A team of NASA and university scientists has found clear evidence that extensive areas of snow melted in west Antarctica in January 2005 in response to warm temperatures. This was the first widespread Antarctic melting ever detected with NASA's QuikScat satellite and the most significant melt observed using satellites during the past three decades. Combined, the affected regions encompassed an area as big as California.
Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., and Konrad Steffen, director of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, led the team. Using data from QuikScat, they measured snowfall accumulation and melt in Antarctica and Greenland from July 1999 through July 2005.
Image right: NASA's QuikScat satellite detected extensive areas of snowmelt, shown in yellow and red, in west Antarctica in January 2005. Image credit:
Nice. You picked the west side which represents 20% of the ice cap. The other 80% is growing. In total, it is about 72% of the world's ice cap and it is BIGGER.
American Thinker: Media Credibility, Not Ice Caps, In Meltdown
Report: Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com
Ice? Ice? Maybe. - CBS News
I see you cook your data just like your scientist friends.
YOU post "links" supporting your own idiocy. When I post links, it's not appeal to authority.Oh boy, here is ol' Midnight, unable to post any links supporting his idiocy
Antarctica is losing ice.
NASA - NASA Finds Vast Regions of West Antarctica Melted in Recent Past
NASA Finds Vast Regions of West Antarctica Melted in Recent Past05.15.07 A team of NASA and university scientists has found clear evidence that extensive areas of snow melted in west Antarctica in January 2005 in response to warm temperatures. This was the first widespread Antarctic melting ever detected with NASA's QuikScat satellite and the most significant melt observed using satellites during the past three decades. Combined, the affected regions encompassed an area as big as California.
Son Nghiem of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., and Konrad Steffen, director of the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences at the University of Colorado, Boulder, led the team. Using data from QuikScat, they measured snowfall accumulation and melt in Antarctica and Greenland from July 1999 through July 2005.
Image right: NASA's QuikScat satellite detected extensive areas of snowmelt, shown in yellow and red, in west Antarctica in January 2005. Image credit:
Nice. You picked the west side which represents 20% of the ice cap. The other 80% is growing. In total, it is about 72% of the world's ice cap and it is BIGGER.
American Thinker: Media Credibility, Not Ice Caps, In Meltdown
Report: Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking - Science News | Science & Technology | Technology News - FOXNews.com
Ice? Ice? Maybe. - CBS News
I see you cook your data just like your scientist friends.
What a lying bunch of shitheads. Completely the opposite of what was said at the American Geophysical Union conferance.
Now who am I to beleive, a bunch of panty waist neo-cons, or real scientists?
American Thinker: Media Credibility, Not Ice Caps, In Meltdown
Yet we are still having record cold.....
I actually found one story where it snowed in parts of China for the first time ever.
And my Niece saw snow in South Texas for the first time in her life last winter.
These reports are everywhere.
And so are the reports of the false numbers.
So what are we to believe? 40 years ago we were heading into another Ice Age for the same reasons.
We are invincible we will adapt to whatever comes at us.
Ollie, 2009 will be somewhere between the 5th warmest year on record, and the 2nd warmest year on record.
You state the the reports are false numbers. Links?
Only dumb ass people like yourself believe that lie about scientists predicting that we were headed into an ice age in the '70s.
As soon as I can find a female vocalist, we'll record our new parody song for the warmers:Yet we are still having record cold.....
I actually found one story where it snowed in parts of China for the first time ever.
And my Niece saw snow in South Texas for the first time in her life last winter.
These reports are everywhere.
And so are the reports of the false numbers.
So what are we to believe? 40 years ago we were heading into another Ice Age for the same reasons.
We are invincible we will adapt to whatever comes at us.
Ollie, 2009 will be somewhere between the 5th warmest year on record, and the 2nd warmest year on record.
You state the the reports are false numbers. Links?
Only dumb ass people like yourself believe that lie about scientists predicting that we were headed into an ice age in the '70s.
You misread me, the reports about the false numbers are everywhere. And I am old enough to remember hearing about the ice age back in the 70's.
Why is it people have to prove how dumb they are by calling people dumb?
Obama's own climate czar was one of those "new ice age" alarmists.Believe the lie Old Rocks? I lived that time period. We were all told the next ice age was coming and coming soon. It was late 60's early 70's to be more accurate.