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Clinton Warns Israel: Don't Isolate Yourself

Have people here really still not figured out Hamas does not want peace with Israel?

that would wreck the terrorist supporting propaganda.
"The Palestinians of Gaza are guilty of that new post-Cold War misdemeanor: voting while Muslim.

"The punishment for this crime has been eight years of economic hardship, international isolation, and periodic Israeli bombardments.

"Like the Algerians in 1990 and the Egyptians in 2012, Gazans went to the polls in 2006 and voted for the wrong party. Rather than supporting the secular choice, they cast their ballots for Hamas.

"Not all Palestinians are Muslim (6 percent or so are Christian). But by opting for the Islamic Resistance Movement—Hamas, for short—Gazans had effectively nullified their own ballots."

End the Israeli occupation of Gaza:mad:

Mowing the Lawn in Gaza » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
 
Now that IDF boots are in the Gaza tunnels, former president Bill Clinton has some words of advice for Israel:

"Former US president Bill Clinton has warned Israel about 'isolating itself from world opinion' due to repeated conflicts in Gaza.

"'Over the long run it is not good for Israel to keep isolating itself from world opinion because of the absence of a viable peace process,' Mr Clinton told the Indian NDTV news channel yesterday.

"'In the short to medium term, Hamas can inflict terrible public relations damage on Israel by forcing it to kill Palestinian civilians to counter Hamas,' he added.

"Hamas had a 'strategy designed to force Israel to kill their own (Palestinian) civilians so the rest of the world will condemn them,' while Israel could not 'look like fools' by not responding to the heavy missile attacks."

Israel PM says ground offensive in Gaza under way - RTÉ News

Of course, the choice isn't only between killing kids and looking foolish.
Israel could also choose to end its belligerent occupation of Gaza.

To Bill and Hill...go isolate yourselves.
And take Jeb with you.
 
Have people here really still not figured out Hamas does not want peace with Israel?
How can Hamas find peace with an adversary whose apparent goal is the total dispossession of the Palestinian people?

For starters stop firing rockets into Israel and acknowledge they have a right to exist I suspect those two things would go a long way to solving this problem. Doing these things would be a sign of good faith and put the pressure on Israel to reach a deal you keep firing rockets in and calling for the destruction of Israel and your going to exactly where you are which is nowhere.
 
Have people here really still not figured out Hamas does not want peace with Israel?

that would wreck the terrorist supporting propaganda.
Have people here really still not figured out that the Israeli juden do not want peace with the Palestinians? .. :cool:
Jews have always wanted all the land between the River and the sea, and now they are saying it publicly:

"Netanyahu has stressed often in the past that he doesn’t want Israel to become a binational state — implying that he favors some kind of accommodation with and separation from the Palestinians. But on Friday he made explicit that this could not extend to full Palestinian sovereignty.

"Why?

"Because, given the march of Islamic extremism across the Middle East, he said, Israel simply cannot afford to give up control over the territory immediately to its east, including the eastern border — that is, the border between Israel and Jordan, and the West Bank and Jordan.

"The priority right now, Netanyahu stressed, was to 'take care of Hamas.' But the wider lesson of the current escalation was that Israel had to ensure that 'we don’t get another Gaza in Judea and Samaria.'

"Amid the current conflict, he elaborated, 'I think the Israeli people understand now what I always say: that there cannot be a situation, under any agreement, in which we relinquish security control of the territory west of the River Jordan.'”

Did Benjamin Netanyahu just say what he really thinks about a two-state solution?
 
Have people here really still not figured out Hamas does not want peace with Israel?
How can Hamas find peace with an adversary whose apparent goal is the total dispossession of the Palestinian people?

For starters stop firing rockets into Israel and acknowledge they have a right to exist I suspect those two things would go a long way to solving this problem. Doing these things would be a sign of good faith and put the pressure on Israel to reach a deal you keep firing rockets in and calling for the destruction of Israel and your going to exactly where you are which is nowhere.
Israel has no right to inflict a belligerent occupation upon Gaza because it disagreed with the results of an election in 2006. It doesn't matter if rockets are leaving Gaza or not; Jews control everything that moves into or out of Gaza by (surface) land, air, and water. Israel has always wanted all the land between the River and the sea for Jews ALONE.
There are currently millions of Jews and Arabs living on that real estate.
Israel has no right to exist as a Jewish State in 21st Century Palestine.
 
You have to wonder what's in it for Bill to make a statement like that.
Yeah...that's a good point.
He apparently made the statement to an Indian NDTV channel yesterday.
Five dead as Israel launch Gaza ground offensive - RTÉ News

What does he gain from it? If he criticizes Israel he loses US support in many areas. He would be better off shutting up. Unless it was a message from the Obama Administration through the back door.
 
You have to wonder what's in it for Bill to make a statement like that.
Yeah...that's a good point.
He apparently made the statement to an Indian NDTV channel yesterday.
Five dead as Israel launch Gaza ground offensive - RTÉ News

What does he gain from it? If he criticizes Israel he loses US support in many areas. He would be better off shutting up. Unless it was a message from the Obama Administration through the back door.
I had not even given it a thought before your post.
He and Hillary supported the Palestinians during their student days but that hasn't been the case lately. Possibly he's shoring up her left flank for 2016?
 
The Same Clinton who suffered so much sorrow during the first Intifada that he commanded Israel to keep their borders open and let more Jews be blown up?
I think I'll ignore his advice this time around.
 
How can Hamas find peace with an adversary whose apparent goal is the total dispossession of the Palestinian people?

For starters stop firing rockets into Israel and acknowledge they have a right to exist I suspect those two things would go a long way to solving this problem. Doing these things would be a sign of good faith and put the pressure on Israel to reach a deal you keep firing rockets in and calling for the destruction of Israel and your going to exactly where you are which is nowhere.
Israel has no right to inflict a belligerent occupation upon Gaza because it disagreed with the results of an election in 2006. It doesn't matter if rockets are leaving Gaza or not; Jews control everything that moves into or out of Gaza by (surface) land, air, and water. Israel has always wanted all the land between the River and the sea for Jews ALONE.
There are currently millions of Jews and Arabs living on that real estate.
Israel has no right to exist as a Jewish State in 21st Century Palestine.

Wow what a load of horseshit I would comment further but that post really speaks for it's self.
 
The Same Clinton who suffered so much sorrow during the first Intifada that he commanded Israel to keep their borders open and let more Jews be blown up?
I think I'll ignore his advice this time around.
You mean the Intifada where Jews killed over 1,000 Palestinians, including 200 under the age of 16?

You mean Hamas hiding behind their civilians is not a 2014 thing?
 
Now that IDF boots are in the Gaza tunnels, former president Bill Clinton has some words of advice for Israel:

"Former US president Bill Clinton has warned Israel about 'isolating itself from world opinion' due to repeated conflicts in Gaza.

"'Over the long run it is not good for Israel to keep isolating itself from world opinion because of the absence of a viable peace process,' Mr Clinton told the Indian NDTV news channel yesterday.

"'In the short to medium term, Hamas can inflict terrible public relations damage on Israel by forcing it to kill Palestinian civilians to counter Hamas,' he added.

"Hamas had a 'strategy designed to force Israel to kill their own (Palestinian) civilians so the rest of the world will condemn them,' while Israel could not 'look like fools' by not responding to the heavy missile attacks."

Israel PM says ground offensive in Gaza under way - RTÉ News

Of course, the choice isn't only between killing kids and looking foolish.
Israel could also choose to end its belligerent occupation of Gaza.

He should stick to cheating on his golf game and scoring poontang
 

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