iceberg
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yep. unbiased info doesn't exist anymore so here we are filling in the gaps with our own fears of "the other side". that said i am still not sure what trump actually did as the Ukrainian Gov has said he did nothing wrong.not pretending anything, gator. asking questions to try and understand. if i'm wrong, i'll learn and understand and adjust. also, when talking to slade i try to make sure HE AND I are on the same baseline and your coming in to shout really wasn't the intention of my reply TO HIM.so "do what we want or you don't get the money" is a valid tactic? no opinion just yet, looking for a baseline that we can apply evenly to all events.
Valid? Who the fuck knows but it sure is common and has been going on as long as I have been alive.
I remember the Fed Govt saying to the state of Florida...”raise your drinking age or you don’t get highway money”.
Why do you seem to be pretending this is something new?
the feds do a lot i've likely never understood or cared about. as i get older, i tend to care more. this does mean backtracking a lot and having to understand what is common and not so common for the actions of our elected officials.
why do you seem hellbent on cornering me so you can do whatever the fuck this is?
Just seemed odd you did not know about this tactic from our government. They do it all the time with both states and other countries.
Trump has been using this tactic to get Central American countries to help stop illegal immigration.
i ignored a lot growing up. i'm sure it is something we do a lot of and in my digging to date, there is zero known connection to bidens son. there *was* a conflict of interest for said son to be there, but nothing is proven that was what the withholding was centered on. that seems speculation from the right.
just like speculation from the left trump did something wrong also.
people are hunting for OTHERS to be wrong and look for it everywhere, regardless of reality. lord i hate these times we've created for ourselves.
It is all speculation. Here is my take on it...
There was a huge conflict of interest in regards to Biden, but there was also legitimate concerns about the prosecutor from multiple counties that had nothing to do with Biden.
I do not see how Trump has the same alibi, I can think of no non-political reason for him to demand they investigate Biden and his son.
sounds like both sides are trying to turd-drop on the other.