Colorado governor: Legalizing pot was bad idea

[sealybobo]

Logic like that above got reefer passed to legal. I agree to decriminalize it in quantities of a few ounces or less but what has been done will back fire and bring in more and more gangsters. So what if it can cure every disease known to man? Then make it legal for medical applications instead of the present status. Let's give this a year or two more and then take a hard look at the states legalizing it. Getting "stoned" is trash no matter how one does it and no one can tell me the reason reefer is legal is for the heart felt concern for the ill and sick instead of stoners celebrating victor y in the name of getting blitzed legally. Hell, just look at the packaging and names of the pot, that says it all.

If you dont feel the same about alcohol you're a hypocrite.

They are both bad and alcohol should be banned from the United State. There are untold numbers of people killed, injured and crimes committed under the influence of alcohol and drugs. It is destroying our country from within.

It was already tried, and failed miserably. The simple fact is unless you remove demand there will always be a supply, and that supply makes people rich.

Good so legalize and tax it.

 

[martybegan]

The prohibition of MJ is a cost-deficit; the only benefit, benefits the pharmaceutical industry, the adult beverage industry, drug counseling services and those few law enforcement agencies who receive money from the Congress in terms of grants.

Local LE; cops, prosecution, probation, jails and prison all have higher priorities and most would applaud decriminalization in one form or another. Ask any cop/deputy/agent if S/He would prefer breaking up a party of drunks, or a party of MJ users.

Allowing MJ to be taxed and requiring a permit to grow MJ seems the sanest solution to the political problem -allowing local political subdivisions (city, county) to prohibit or establish zoning laws for growing seems reasonable too.

Taxes on its sale, and taxes paid by its distributors will bring a multi-billion dollar economy into the light. The black market, which today provides this ubiquitous drug to the market, is run by criminals, and criminal gangs, creating a nexus between generally law abiding citizens and thugs. Not a good thing.

The only thing you have to make sure is to not tax is to a level that you create a new black market that is able to grow it and sell it cheaper than the legal alternative.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Drug laws, like any other vice law, are primarily designed due to people who cannot handle "too much of a good thing." I myself have been able to use pot on occasion without any addiction or impact on my work or life, same as alcohol (and I love me some alcohol).

Where I digress from drug legalization advocates is the legalization of all drugs. Some to me have too much of a downside for users, i.e. with things like meth and heroin, where the ability to casually use with out acute societal and person side effects is far less than alcohol, pot, nicotine or caffeine. I would also add things like Ecstasy and magic mushrooms to the legalization category.

Any law against a vice must have a tangible, and overwhelming postitive impact on society vs. the cost, both in terms of economics, and when it comes to drug vices, on the cost of the reduction of our freedoms due to the needed zealous policing required to bring it about.

I'll be fifty this year and have smoked pot for 35 of those years yet I was able to retire early and lead a productive life.
And I also love my beer and whiskey.
It all boils down to personal responsibility really.
If you cant handle drinking it's not likely you'll do any better with pot,but thats on the individual.

when i was a kid 30+ years ago

smoked weed when it was cool and not so popular

havent smoked it since but then again i dont drink much either

Sounds like neither were your cup of tea.
I see three types when it comes to recreational mind altering substances.
Those who can take it or leave it like your case. Those who like it and can control it...and of course those that let it take over their lives.

And we don't ban things because a small percent can't handle it. We've already decided this by having casinos in Detroit.

Pot doesn't ruin your life. It enhances it. Lol. Like a really good cigarette. Pot just makes people lazy but hey we want to relax and enjoy ourselves

We need to replace IN GOD WE TRUST with LIGHT UP OR LEAVE ME ALONE!

This is not a Godly nation, we aren't fooling anyone anyway.

Ben Franklin wanted the national motto to be

mind your business

which was the inscription on the first authorized US coin

 

[martybegan]

Logic like that above got reefer passed to legal. I agree to decriminalize it in quantities of a few ounces or less but what has been done will back fire and bring in more and more gangsters. So what if it can cure every disease known to man? Then make it legal for medical applications instead of the present status. Let's give this a year or two more and then take a hard look at the states legalizing it. Getting "stoned" is trash no matter how one does it and no one can tell me the reason reefer is legal is for the heart felt concern for the ill and sick instead of stoners celebrating victor y in the name of getting blitzed legally. Hell, just look at the packaging and names of the pot, that says it all.

If you dont feel the same about alcohol you're a hypocrite.

They are both bad and alcohol should be banned from the United State. There are untold numbers of people killed, injured and crimes committed under the influence of alcohol and drugs. It is destroying our country from within.

It was already tried, and failed miserably. The simple fact is unless you remove demand there will always be a supply, and that supply makes people rich.

Good so legalize and tax it.

Just don't tax it in such a way as to create another black market for it, which can provide it cheaper.

 

[sealybobo]

tH

The prohibition of MJ is a cost-deficit; the only benefit, benefits the pharmaceutical industry, the adult beverage industry, drug counseling services and those few law enforcement agencies who receive money from the Congress in terms of grants.

Local LE; cops, prosecution, probation, jails and prison all have higher priorities and most would applaud decriminalization in one form or another. Ask any cop/deputy/agent if S/He would prefer breaking up a party of drunks, or a party of MJ users.

Allowing MJ to be taxed and requiring a permit to grow MJ seems the sanest solution to the political problem -allowing local political subdivisions (city, county) to prohibit or establish zoning laws for growing seems reasonable too.

Taxes on its sale, and taxes paid by its distributors will bring a multi-billion dollar economy into the light. The black market, which today provides this ubiquitous drug to the market, is run by criminals, and criminal gangs, creating a nexus between generally law abiding citizens and thugs. Not a good thing.

There will be no pot industry once personal cultivation becomes widespread.

The pot problem will then become one of making sure assholes kill the males before they fuck up whole counties.

Huh? Kill what males?

 

[Iceweasel]

The prohibition of MJ is a cost-deficit; the only benefit, benefits the pharmaceutical industry, the adult beverage industry, drug counseling services and those few law enforcement agencies who receive money from the Congress in terms of grants.

That's a weird thing to say. Not everyone resorts to illegal substances, it keeps pot out of the hands of many. Many, well most people don't want it legalized. To disagree is one thing but to pretend its' illegal status has no other effect is wrong.

Gee, thanks for sharing your opinion, do you have any fact(s) to support it?

LOL. You are a retard. I said not everyone supports it and you want proof.

 

[Iceweasel]

Logic like that above got reefer passed to legal. I agree to decriminalize it in quantities of a few ounces or less but what has been done will back fire and bring in more and more gangsters. So what if it can cure every disease known to man? Then make it legal for medical applications instead of the present status. Let's give this a year or two more and then take a hard look at the states legalizing it. Getting "stoned" is trash no matter how one does it and no one can tell me the reason reefer is legal is for the heart felt concern for the ill and sick instead of stoners celebrating victor y in the name of getting blitzed legally. Hell, just look at the packaging and names of the pot, that says it all.

If you dont feel the same about alcohol you're a hypocrite.

Drug laws, like any other vice law, are primarily designed due to people who cannot handle "too much of a good thing." I myself have been able to use pot on occasion without any addiction or impact on my work or life, same as alcohol (and I love me some alcohol).

Where I digress from drug legalization advocates is the legalization of all drugs. Some to me have too much of a downside for users, i.e. with things like meth and heroin, where the ability to casually use with out acute societal and person side effects is far less than alcohol, pot, nicotine or caffeine. I would also add things like Ecstasy and magic mushrooms to the legalization category.

Any law against a vice must have a tangible, and overwhelming postitive impact on society vs. the cost, both in terms of economics, and when it comes to drug vices, on the cost of the reduction of our freedoms due to the needed zealous policing required to bring it about.

I'll be fifty this year and have smoked pot for 35 of those years yet I was able to retire early and lead a productive life.
And I also love my beer and whiskey.
It all boils down to personal responsibility really.
If you cant handle drinking it's not likely you'll do any better with pot,but thats on the individual.

when i was a kid 30+ years ago

smoked weed when it was cool and not so popular

havent smoked it since but then again i dont drink much either

Good for you old man. What's that got to do with me? I guess you get a vote too. Just don't be a dick and try to take the right away from us because you don't like it. We will outlaw donuts coffee and hobos on your fat ass. Lol. Remember what free means.

So you don't believe a society should be able to regulate intoxicants. That's cute but really stupid.

 

[sealybobo]

Logic like that above got reefer passed to legal. I agree to decriminalize it in quantities of a few ounces or less but what has been done will back fire and bring in more and more gangsters. So what if it can cure every disease known to man? Then make it legal for medical applications instead of the present status. Let's give this a year or two more and then take a hard look at the states legalizing it. Getting "stoned" is trash no matter how one does it and no one can tell me the reason reefer is legal is for the heart felt concern for the ill and sick instead of stoners celebrating victor y in the name of getting blitzed legally. Hell, just look at the packaging and names of the pot, that says it all.

If you dont feel the same about alcohol you're a hypocrite.

They are both bad and alcohol should be banned from the United State. There are untold numbers of people killed, injured and crimes committed under the influence of alcohol and drugs. It is destroying our country from within.

It was already tried, and failed miserably. The simple fact is unless you remove demand there will always be a supply, and that supply makes people rich.

Good so legalize and tax it.

Just don't tax it in such a way as to create another black market for it, which can provide it cheaper.

If people want to grow their own so what? I know many legal pot growers that supply dispensories. They grow in one room. Amazing stuff. $3000 to get set up and a lot of work. They make a lot.

 

[Roadrunner]

tH

The prohibition of MJ is a cost-deficit; the only benefit, benefits the pharmaceutical industry, the adult beverage industry, drug counseling services and those few law enforcement agencies who receive money from the Congress in terms of grants.

Local LE; cops, prosecution, probation, jails and prison all have higher priorities and most would applaud decriminalization in one form or another. Ask any cop/deputy/agent if S/He would prefer breaking up a party of drunks, or a party of MJ users.

Allowing MJ to be taxed and requiring a permit to grow MJ seems the sanest solution to the political problem -allowing local political subdivisions (city, county) to prohibit or establish zoning laws for growing seems reasonable too.

Taxes on its sale, and taxes paid by its distributors will bring a multi-billion dollar economy into the light. The black market, which today provides this ubiquitous drug to the market, is run by criminals, and criminal gangs, creating a nexus between generally law abiding citizens and thugs. Not a good thing.

There will be no pot industry once personal cultivation becomes widespread.

The pot problem will then become one of making sure assholes kill the males before they fuck up whole counties.

Huh? Kill what males?

I am a feminist.

All male marijuana plants should be killed immediately.

In fact, responsible people only use feminized seeds or clones.

 

[martybegan]

Fucking Nancy Reagan and her war on drugs. And their anti science could have prevented a cure that might have cured Ronny of the Alzheimer's. So ignorant. Conservatives hold us back in so many ways.

I don't blame people who tried to ban this stuff back in the 70's and 80's. Back then, similar to the prohibition people in the 1910's and 1920's, they thought they could bend people to their will via enforcement, propaganda, and time.

The people I blame are the current crop, who refuse to see that the fight is being lost badly, and maybe it is time to step back, with Pot being the first step.

John Rockerfeller was still a supporter of temperance when he wrote his letter saying prohibition had failed and should be repealed, he just admitted that prohibition caused more problems than it fixed.

 

[sealybobo]

If you dont feel the same about alcohol you're a hypocrite.

Drug laws, like any other vice law, are primarily designed due to people who cannot handle "too much of a good thing." I myself have been able to use pot on occasion without any addiction or impact on my work or life, same as alcohol (and I love me some alcohol).

Where I digress from drug legalization advocates is the legalization of all drugs. Some to me have too much of a downside for users, i.e. with things like meth and heroin, where the ability to casually use with out acute societal and person side effects is far less than alcohol, pot, nicotine or caffeine. I would also add things like Ecstasy and magic mushrooms to the legalization category.

Any law against a vice must have a tangible, and overwhelming postitive impact on society vs. the cost, both in terms of economics, and when it comes to drug vices, on the cost of the reduction of our freedoms due to the needed zealous policing required to bring it about.

I'll be fifty this year and have smoked pot for 35 of those years yet I was able to retire early and lead a productive life.
And I also love my beer and whiskey.
It all boils down to personal responsibility really.
If you cant handle drinking it's not likely you'll do any better with pot,but thats on the individual.

when i was a kid 30+ years ago

smoked weed when it was cool and not so popular

havent smoked it since but then again i dont drink much either

Good for you old man. What's that got to do with me? I guess you get a vote too. Just don't be a dick and try to take the right away from us because you don't like it. We will outlaw donuts coffee and hobos on your fat ass. Lol. Remember what free means.

So you don't believe a society should be able to regulate intoxicants. That's cute but really stupid.

Regulate yes. Outlaw pot no. Unless you want to get them on tax evasion then go for it.

 

[Roadrunner]

If you dont feel the same about alcohol you're a hypocrite.

Drug laws, like any other vice law, are primarily designed due to people who cannot handle "too much of a good thing." I myself have been able to use pot on occasion without any addiction or impact on my work or life, same as alcohol (and I love me some alcohol).

Where I digress from drug legalization advocates is the legalization of all drugs. Some to me have too much of a downside for users, i.e. with things like meth and heroin, where the ability to casually use with out acute societal and person side effects is far less than alcohol, pot, nicotine or caffeine. I would also add things like Ecstasy and magic mushrooms to the legalization category.

Any law against a vice must have a tangible, and overwhelming postitive impact on society vs. the cost, both in terms of economics, and when it comes to drug vices, on the cost of the reduction of our freedoms due to the needed zealous policing required to bring it about.

I'll be fifty this year and have smoked pot for 35 of those years yet I was able to retire early and lead a productive life.
And I also love my beer and whiskey.
It all boils down to personal responsibility really.
If you cant handle drinking it's not likely you'll do any better with pot,but thats on the individual.

when i was a kid 30+ years ago

smoked weed when it was cool and not so popular

havent smoked it since but then again i dont drink much either

Good for you old man. What's that got to do with me? I guess you get a vote too. Just don't be a dick and try to take the right away from us because you don't like it. We will outlaw donuts coffee and hobos on your fat ass. Lol. Remember what free means.

So you don't believe a society should be able to regulate intoxicants. That's cute but really stupid.

I believe there should be age limits.

Pot does not belong in the hands of school age kids, but, it is there anyway.

They shouldn't be fucking like animals and forgoing basic protections, but, they do.

You can't legislate against stupidity.

 

[Iceweasel]

Actually I know drunks who stopped being drunks by smoking a joint. But not everyone likes pot and I hate beer and become a huge asshole on scotch and red bull but its what I like so...lol.

Point is I'd be a drunk if not for pot. Lol

You would be more of an asshole if it weren't for pot? How's that even possible?

 

[sealybobo]

tH

The prohibition of MJ is a cost-deficit; the only benefit, benefits the pharmaceutical industry, the adult beverage industry, drug counseling services and those few law enforcement agencies who receive money from the Congress in terms of grants.

Local LE; cops, prosecution, probation, jails and prison all have higher priorities and most would applaud decriminalization in one form or another. Ask any cop/deputy/agent if S/He would prefer breaking up a party of drunks, or a party of MJ users.

Allowing MJ to be taxed and requiring a permit to grow MJ seems the sanest solution to the political problem -allowing local political subdivisions (city, county) to prohibit or establish zoning laws for growing seems reasonable too.

Taxes on its sale, and taxes paid by its distributors will bring a multi-billion dollar economy into the light. The black market, which today provides this ubiquitous drug to the market, is run by criminals, and criminal gangs, creating a nexus between generally law abiding citizens and thugs. Not a good thing.

There will be no pot industry once personal cultivation becomes widespread.

The pot problem will then become one of making sure assholes kill the males before they fuck up whole counties.

Huh? Kill what males?

I am a feminist.

All male marijuana plants should be killed immediately.

In fact, responsible people on use feminized seeds or clones.

What's wrong with males? The seeds? Don't you need males?

 

[Roadrunner]

Drug laws, like any other vice law, are primarily designed due to people who cannot handle "too much of a good thing." I myself have been able to use pot on occasion without any addiction or impact on my work or life, same as alcohol (and I love me some alcohol).

Where I digress from drug legalization advocates is the legalization of all drugs. Some to me have too much of a downside for users, i.e. with things like meth and heroin, where the ability to casually use with out acute societal and person side effects is far less than alcohol, pot, nicotine or caffeine. I would also add things like Ecstasy and magic mushrooms to the legalization category.

Any law against a vice must have a tangible, and overwhelming postitive impact on society vs. the cost, both in terms of economics, and when it comes to drug vices, on the cost of the reduction of our freedoms due to the needed zealous policing required to bring it about.

I'll be fifty this year and have smoked pot for 35 of those years yet I was able to retire early and lead a productive life.
And I also love my beer and whiskey.
It all boils down to personal responsibility really.
If you cant handle drinking it's not likely you'll do any better with pot,but thats on the individual.

when i was a kid 30+ years ago

smoked weed when it was cool and not so popular

havent smoked it since but then again i dont drink much either

Good for you old man. What's that got to do with me? I guess you get a vote too. Just don't be a dick and try to take the right away from us because you don't like it. We will outlaw donuts coffee and hobos on your fat ass. Lol. Remember what free means.

So you don't believe a society should be able to regulate intoxicants. That's cute but really stupid.

Regulate yes. Outlaw pot no. Unless you want to get them on tax evasion then go for it.

Legalize growing at home.

End of problem.

 

[martybegan]

Drug laws, like any other vice law, are primarily designed due to people who cannot handle "too much of a good thing." I myself have been able to use pot on occasion without any addiction or impact on my work or life, same as alcohol (and I love me some alcohol).

Where I digress from drug legalization advocates is the legalization of all drugs. Some to me have too much of a downside for users, i.e. with things like meth and heroin, where the ability to casually use with out acute societal and person side effects is far less than alcohol, pot, nicotine or caffeine. I would also add things like Ecstasy and magic mushrooms to the legalization category.

Any law against a vice must have a tangible, and overwhelming postitive impact on society vs. the cost, both in terms of economics, and when it comes to drug vices, on the cost of the reduction of our freedoms due to the needed zealous policing required to bring it about.

I'll be fifty this year and have smoked pot for 35 of those years yet I was able to retire early and lead a productive life.
And I also love my beer and whiskey.
It all boils down to personal responsibility really.
If you cant handle drinking it's not likely you'll do any better with pot,but thats on the individual.

when i was a kid 30+ years ago

smoked weed when it was cool and not so popular

havent smoked it since but then again i dont drink much either

Good for you old man. What's that got to do with me? I guess you get a vote too. Just don't be a dick and try to take the right away from us because you don't like it. We will outlaw donuts coffee and hobos on your fat ass. Lol. Remember what free means.

So you don't believe a society should be able to regulate intoxicants. That's cute but really stupid.

Regulate yes. Outlaw pot no. Unless you want to get them on tax evasion then go for it.

And tax evasion is a far easier crime to prove, as you are responsible for showing that you paid the proper taxes for your sales and income.

 

[Iceweasel]

Regulate yes. Outlaw pot no. Unless you want to get them on tax evasion then go for it.

But most people disagree and want certain things outlawed so you just have to find a way to comfort yourself, I'm not the odd one out here, you are. But drugs do cloud your thinking.

 

[Roadrunner]

tH

The prohibition of MJ is a cost-deficit; the only benefit, benefits the pharmaceutical industry, the adult beverage industry, drug counseling services and those few law enforcement agencies who receive money from the Congress in terms of grants.

Local LE; cops, prosecution, probation, jails and prison all have higher priorities and most would applaud decriminalization in one form or another. Ask any cop/deputy/agent if S/He would prefer breaking up a party of drunks, or a party of MJ users.

Allowing MJ to be taxed and requiring a permit to grow MJ seems the sanest solution to the political problem -allowing local political subdivisions (city, county) to prohibit or establish zoning laws for growing seems reasonable too.

Taxes on its sale, and taxes paid by its distributors will bring a multi-billion dollar economy into the light. The black market, which today provides this ubiquitous drug to the market, is run by criminals, and criminal gangs, creating a nexus between generally law abiding citizens and thugs. Not a good thing.

There will be no pot industry once personal cultivation becomes widespread.

The pot problem will then become one of making sure assholes kill the males before they fuck up whole counties.

Huh? Kill what males?

I am a feminist.

All male marijuana plants should be killed immediately.

In fact, responsible people on use feminized seeds or clones.

What's wrong with males? The seeds? Don't you need males?

One male plant can fuck up all the sinsimilla within miles.

Back when growing was widespread around here, before deer clubs posted all the land, it was very hard to grow sinse out in the clearcuts, even from clones, because of the pollen in the air.

Marijuana pollen can even infiltrate indoor pot.

 

[sealybobo]

tH

The prohibition of MJ is a cost-deficit; the only benefit, benefits the pharmaceutical industry, the adult beverage industry, drug counseling services and those few law enforcement agencies who receive money from the Congress in terms of grants.

Local LE; cops, prosecution, probation, jails and prison all have higher priorities and most would applaud decriminalization in one form or another. Ask any cop/deputy/agent if S/He would prefer breaking up a party of drunks, or a party of MJ users.

Allowing MJ to be taxed and requiring a permit to grow MJ seems the sanest solution to the political problem -allowing local political subdivisions (city, county) to prohibit or establish zoning laws for growing seems reasonable too.

Taxes on its sale, and taxes paid by its distributors will bring a multi-billion dollar economy into the light. The black market, which today provides this ubiquitous drug to the market, is run by criminals, and criminal gangs, creating a nexus between generally law abiding citizens and thugs. Not a good thing.

There will be no pot industry once personal cultivation becomes widespread.

The pot problem will then become one of making sure assholes kill the males before they fuck up whole counties.

Huh? Kill what males?

I am a feminist.

All male marijuana plants should be killed immediately.

In fact, responsible people on use feminized seeds or clones.

I only use women if you know what I mean so I must be one too.

 

[Iceweasel]

I believe there should be age limits.

Pot does not belong in the hands of school age kids, but, it is there anyway.

They shouldn't be fucking like animals and forgoing basic protections, but, they do.

You can't legislate against stupidity.

Those aren't the same thing but I didn't say anything about kids. Pot is legal here now so the test is on. Bottom line for me is that it should be up to the state, not the minority that wants it, otherwise where do we draw the line?