Community Investment? Oh, Please

[LeftofLeft]

It's funny how the RWnuts think that the military can't survive without more and more money,

but that everything else in society would be better off with less money.

Wow, what an idiotic statement.

The military is a government run force, of coarse it takes money.

Society, is not to be run by the government, thus it needs little if any money.

God, just when you think someone can't get even dumber. Money runs this country, and government is its tool. If you are on the Forbes 400 list, then you're one of the people in society who runs it. Of "coarse".

I bet you believe in creatures from outer space have paid you visits in the past, and you can commune with the dead also.

How about more accountability? Show US that when an investment is made in inner city America, it is not burned down? Show US why people should come in and spend money in the City? I will give you a hint: Giving credence to the bloods and crypts is a big FUCK YOU to those making investments into the Community and reeks of "Ask Not What WE can do for Our Country but What WE can shake down from Our Country.

 

[georgephillip]

The government has spent millions and millions of dollars over the years on so called community investment the improvement if any has been marginal. When you spend this much money with little or no improvement it might be time to consider the problem is deeper than just money.

Like a structural trade imbalance that has seen trade deficits of $200 to $300 billion dollars over the past decade, and the closure of 50,000 US factories, along with five million US jobs lost since China joined the WTO? In the late '90s, 10,000 jobs a year began leaving Baltimore as guns and drugs began arriving in ever greater quantities. I know you don't accept the concept of "class warfare," but I don't know what else to call it.

 

[deltex1]

Disperse the races/colors/faiths/classes. If you stay in the ghetto, you become the ghetto.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Investing in these neighborhoods will bear nothing, they are money pits, all we are doing is throwing money down the drain. They are born into the welfare state and make it a career

Community Investment? Oh, Please

In the face of the Baltimore riots, President Obama is reportedly resigned that nothing much can be done to prevent similar events in the future because of Republican opposition to any greater “investment” by the federal government in mainly black inner-city communities.

“Investment”? What a joke! An investment is something from which you expect a return, and those communities have about as much chance of paying anyone back anything as Confederate War Bonds do of suddenly maturing at ten percent compound.

These communities are not an “investment”; they’re an expense! The biggest money hole in the history of the human race. Since Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty program was enacted, we have spent over fifteen trillion – with a t – on welfare (AFDC and other programs), Food Stamps, WIC stamps, free pre-school, free primary and secondary education, free medical care, free cell phones, Section 8 housing assistance, food pantries, free transportation to the Social Services Office and your medical appointments, free legal services, and I don’t know what else because I haven’t the stomach to look any further.

Articles Community Investment Oh Please

Well, someone needs to inform Mr. Obama that the problem is NOT "community", the problem is "out-of-control" members of law enforcement, and the pathetic system called "justice". Fix the "cop" problem, and fix the injustices in our judicial system, and all will be well.

You're deflecting from the issue at hand. This thread isn't about the "big bad police", it's about the black population being given every possible hand up and STILL not getting it done. If you want to cop bash start a thread on that

Well ... excuuuuuuse me ......... FYI - Our problems go much deeper than "community", much deeper than "hand-outs", much deeper than "race", much deeper than our "black population", and much deeper than what Mr. Obama is willing to acknowledge and address.

Your post doesn't begin to address the problems we face, nor the issues within races, nor community issues. Your post is obviously political biased, prejudice, and is the usual political "blah blah" that we hear and read every single day. Our problems are NOT Republican problems, nor are they Democrat problems. Our problems are politically based agendas where America and her citizens are far down the priority list. Try looking passed the surface and the propaganda BS of party politics, and examine the root causes that pushed our problem to the level they are today.

Or, are you one of those that play the party blame game, and not understanding nor realizing exactly how politics adversely affects all of us, regardless of race or nationality?

Define "our".....
You must mean "your problem"....
Now..You contradict yourself....
First you say...."Our problems are NOT Republican problems, nor are they Democrat problems."
Then you say..."Our problems are politically based "...
The two are mutually exclusive?
In any event, your premise if off topic.
The issue is investment in the community.
This is not an issue of race, the police or anything along those lines.
The issue is a lack of leadership at City Hall. Mismanagement nepotism, political back slapping. Identity politics.
All of which will never lead to private investment in the City.
And despite the pleasantries from Obama, no amount of photo opps or government hand outs or silly proposals such as taxing those in the suburbs to pay for City problems are going to help.
Baltimore is a city with great potential. City Hall has to be fixed with the election of new leadership. The old ways of doing things such as the mayor and other top brass in City Hall appoint relatives, friends and friends of friends to the highest paid positions in City government must end. Too many people entrenched in high positions who are not there to serve the people but are there for their own self enrichment.
All they want is to put in their time, collect their overstuffed pay envelopes and eventually their over stuffed pensions.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

“Investment”? What a joke! An investment is something from which you expect a return, and those communities have about as much chance of paying anyone back anything as Confederate War Bonds do of suddenly maturing at ten percent compound.

Since 15 Baltimore communities have lower life expectancies than North Korea (eight are doing worse than Syria), why are you whining about food stamps, WIC, and Section 8? 'Care to imagine life expectancies in those 15 neighborhoods WITHOUT any investment in those trapped there?
15 Baltimore neighborhoods have lower life expectancies than North Korea - The Washington Post

That happens when you blow each other away

 

[thereisnospoon]

Investing in these neighborhoods will bear nothing, they are money pits, all we are doing is throwing money down the drain. They are born into the welfare state and make it a career

Community Investment? Oh, Please

In the face of the Baltimore riots, President Obama is reportedly resigned that nothing much can be done to prevent similar events in the future because of Republican opposition to any greater “investment” by the federal government in mainly black inner-city communities.

“Investment”? What a joke! An investment is something from which you expect a return, and those communities have about as much chance of paying anyone back anything as Confederate War Bonds do of suddenly maturing at ten percent compound.

These communities are not an “investment”; they’re an expense! The biggest money hole in the history of the human race. Since Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty program was enacted, we have spent over fifteen trillion – with a t – on welfare (AFDC and other programs), Food Stamps, WIC stamps, free pre-school, free primary and secondary education, free medical care, free cell phones, Section 8 housing assistance, food pantries, free transportation to the Social Services Office and your medical appointments, free legal services, and I don’t know what else because I haven’t the stomach to look any further.

Articles Community Investment Oh Please

Well, someone needs to inform Mr. Obama that the problem is NOT "community", the problem is "out-of-control" members of law enforcement, and the pathetic system called "justice". Fix the "cop" problem, and fix the injustices in our judicial system, and all will be well.

You're deflecting from the issue at hand. This thread isn't about the "big bad police", it's about the black population being given every possible hand up and STILL not getting it done. If you want to cop bash start a thread on that

Another clueless, racist bigot thread. STFU. If anyone knows about receiving public assistance, it's you.

Gee..NIne whole posts and here it is ....."you're a racist"...ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

 

[deltex1]

You're deflecting from the issue at hand. This thread isn't about the "big bad police", it's about the black population being given every possible hand up and STILL not getting it done. If you want to cop bash start a thread on that

Well ... excuuuuuuse me ......... FYI - Our problems go much deeper than "community", much deeper than "hand-outs", much deeper than "race", much deeper than our "black population", and much deeper than what Mr. Obama is willing to acknowledge and address.

Your post doesn't begin to address the problems we face, nor the issues within races, nor community issues. Your post is obviously political biased, prejudice, and is the usual political "blah blah" that we hear and read every single day. Our problems are NOT Republican problems, nor are they Democrat problems. Our problems are politically based agendas where America and her citizens are far down the priority list. Try looking passed the surface and the propaganda BS of party politics, and examine the root causes that pushed our problem to the level they are today.

Or, are you one of those that play the party blame game, and not understanding nor realizing exactly how politics adversely affects all of us, regardless of race or nationality?

The war on poverty is lost, just like the war on drugs. I never said it was a political problem, I said it's a failure to apply one's self and get ahead, even with trillions of dollars spent they can't get it done. Why?

They can't get it done due to no real effort, no sound doable workable plan, political agendas, addressing the wrong problems, and not assigning the right resources to the situation. They make a half-hearted effort, then claim there's no money to continue and go beyond first steps. No one has made an honest effort to address poverty, homelessness, jobs, nor what it takes to be productive and self-supporting. Without encouragement and real opportunities, any program for those less fortunate will fail. We spend more money and resources on wars, bailouts, subsidies, and foreign aid than we spend on the well-being and prosperity of our citizens.

People respond to encouragement and real opportunities. People want to realize their dreams and to be self-supporting and enjoy life. When we push people aside, neglect them, make excuses for them, give them false hope, and treat them as liabilities instead of an asset, what can we expect from them?

You are born into life, what you make of that life is up to you. I'm a realist, you have "the dream"

Cute ... real cute ...... so anyone can just out and be anything they so desire? Pleeeeease ........ at least make it sound somewhat real .. please....

The slave fled slavery...first you have to desire...then you have to perform.

 

[deltex1]

NTP appears to have left Austin...got her addadicktome and boogied...

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Cute ....... very good.... Hey, ask me if I give a shit whether you ignore me or not. Ha Ha Ha Ha ... very funny indeed.

Whatever, troll. You're just upset I called you out. Now go drink some Bubble Up, have a bowl of rainbow stew and fret for mankind.

Silly silly silly .. cute also. ... FYI - It'd take a lot more than you or some pathetic post on USMB to get me upset.

Keep fretting about the poor oppressed black man that has no desire to get ahead. It's a no sum game. You can't win

You are the problem, you insufferable hypocrite.

She is by admission 30 years old and has 6 kids,

so I think it's a reasonable estimate that she pays no federal income taxes.

And didn't before she started spawning, either.

 

[LeftofLeft]

The government has spent millions and millions of dollars over the years on so called community investment the improvement if any has been marginal. When you spend this much money with little or no improvement it might be time to consider the problem is deeper than just money.

Like a structural trade imbalance that has seen trade deficits of $200 to $300 billion dollars over the past decade, and the closure of 50,000 US factories, along with five million US jobs lost since China joined the WTO? In the late '90s, 10,000 jobs a year began leaving Baltimore as guns and drugs began arriving in ever greater quantities. I know you don't accept the concept of "class warfare," but I don't know what else to call it.

Jobs leave Baltimore. What is the solution to bringing them back? CVS was a first start and it was brought down. Does Baltimore really want jobs or does it want an excuse of no jobs to justify what was done to it last Monday? Any leader, political, religious, or otherwise that tried to give legitimacy to the looters by lumping them in with protestors is at fault. That also goes for the scribes with their "banks have been looting Baltimore forever" shit.

 

[thereisnospoon]

The problems start with the fact that these children don't have any morality or will to improve themselves. I agree that those communities need infrastructure, science, r&d and education!!! Taking that away will just hurt and make this mess spread.

You can invest until doomsday but until they have the will and desire to achieve you are throwing money away. All you need to do is look at inner cities for proof of that

What about encouragement and opportunities?

Again....Look to Baltimore City Hall......From there should come the leadership that attracts private investment.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Well, someone needs to inform Mr. Obama that the problem is NOT "community", the problem is "out-of-control" members of law enforcement, and the pathetic system called "justice". Fix the "cop" problem, and fix the injustices in our judicial system, and all will be well.

You're deflecting from the issue at hand. This thread isn't about the "big bad police", it's about the black population being given every possible hand up and STILL not getting it done. If you want to cop bash start a thread on that

Another clueless, racist bigot thread. STFU. If anyone knows about receiving public assistance, it's you.

No one pays you anymind, you racist. You showed your true hatred for whites in another thread.

No, I didn't. I showed empathy for another race. Try it sometime, it will help heal the problem and fix yours.

Everyone on here knows you hate white people. They are not as stupid as you think they are.

As far as my problems go.
I own my home, a ford f150 extended cab, a ford mustang, have no credit card debt, a great family, a bunch of pets, and just finished eating pulled pork bbq, and washed it down with a hot fudge cake from the dairy dream just down the road.

Am I blessed? Oh hell yes, did I do my part to earn it, oh hell yes, 15 hour work days 6 days a week minimum, for almost 20 years, now, I don't have to work near as hard, and life is much more enjoyable.

Not bad for a poor white boy, who never graduated high school, and married when he was 17 to a 17 year old girl, who is still at his side, just over 27 years later.

Other than having to take care of those who refuse to take care of themselves, please tell me, what problems are prominent in my life?

The problem isn't in the bed of your redneck truck. It's between your ears.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Why does Baltimore hate their "rich" residents......raise taxes and gift it to the blacks.........

You miss spelled "rich"...no...you left it out.

Class warfare. Yep. That'll attract investment dollars.
Moron.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

NTP appears to have left Austin...got her addadicktome and boogied...

Yeah, and I'm now in San Antonio and across the street from your house, watching you. Think about getting some new underwear. And stop picking at your face. Only makes it worse.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The problems start with the fact that these children don't have any morality or will to improve themselves. I agree that those communities need infrastructure, science, r&d and education!!! Taking that away will just hurt and make this mess spread.

You can invest until doomsday but until they have the will and desire to achieve you are throwing money away. All you need to do is look at inner cities for proof of that

What about encouragement and opportunities?

Again....Look to Baltimore City Hall......From there should come the leadership that attracts private investment.

Years ago, back in the 70's, downtown Indianapolis was a rat hole, no community, few businesses and it wasn't safe to go there after dark. They did it right, they attracted businesses, cleaned up the downtown area and it began to thrive, today it's very nice and they are slowly expanding it to the neighborhoods. That sort of investment I can live with, it produced results.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Investing in these neighborhoods will bear nothing, they are money pits, all we are doing is throwing money down the drain. They are born into the welfare state and make it a career

Community Investment? Oh, Please

In the face of the Baltimore riots, President Obama is reportedly resigned that nothing much can be done to prevent similar events in the future because of Republican opposition to any greater “investment” by the federal government in mainly black inner-city communities.

“Investment”? What a joke! An investment is something from which you expect a return, and those communities have about as much chance of paying anyone back anything as Confederate War Bonds do of suddenly maturing at ten percent compound.

These communities are not an “investment”; they’re an expense! The biggest money hole in the history of the human race. Since Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty program was enacted, we have spent over fifteen trillion – with a t – on welfare (AFDC and other programs), Food Stamps, WIC stamps, free pre-school, free primary and secondary education, free medical care, free cell phones, Section 8 housing assistance, food pantries, free transportation to the Social Services Office and your medical appointments, free legal services, and I don’t know what else because I haven’t the stomach to look any further.

Articles Community Investment Oh Please

Well, someone needs to inform Mr. Obama that the problem is NOT "community", the problem is "out-of-control" members of law enforcement, and the pathetic system called "justice". Fix the "cop" problem, and fix the injustices in our judicial system, and all will be well.

You're deflecting from the issue at hand. This thread isn't about the "big bad police", it's about the black population being given every possible hand up and STILL not getting it done. If you want to cop bash start a thread on that

Well ... excuuuuuuse me ......... FYI - Our problems go much deeper than "community", much deeper than "hand-outs", much deeper than "race", much deeper than our "black population", and much deeper than what Mr. Obama is willing to acknowledge and address.

Your post doesn't begin to address the problems we face, nor the issues within races, nor community issues. Your post is obviously political biased, prejudice, and is the usual political "blah blah" that we hear and read every single day. Our problems are NOT Republican problems, nor are they Democrat problems. Our problems are politically based agendas where America and her citizens are far down the priority list. Try looking passed the surface and the propaganda BS of party politics, and examine the root causes that pushed our problem to the level they are today.

Or, are you one of those that play the party blame game, and not understanding nor realizing exactly how politics adversely affects all of us, regardless of race or nationality?

The war on poverty is lost, just like the war on drugs. I never said it was a political problem, I said it's a failure to apply one's self and get ahead, even with trillions of dollars spent they can't get it done. Why?

They can't get it done due to no real effort, no sound doable workable plan, political agendas, addressing the wrong problems, and not assigning the right resources to the situation. They make a half-hearted effort, then claim there's no money to continue and go beyond first steps. No one has made an honest effort to address poverty, homelessness, jobs, nor what it takes to be productive and self-supporting. Without encouragement and real opportunities, any program for those less fortunate will fail. We spend more money and resources on wars, bailouts, subsidies, and foreign aid than we spend on the well-being and prosperity of our citizens.

People respond to encouragement and real opportunities. People want to realize their dreams and to be self-supporting and enjoy life. When we push people aside, neglect them, make excuses for them, give them false hope, and treat them as liabilities instead of an asset, what can we expect from them?

You keep complaining about the same things..
"When we push people aside,"...
Define "we"...I am not we.. I don't live in Baltimore. In fact, there are few if any USMB members who live there and thus very few if any people who are "we".
So, go ahead. Who is "we"....?

 

[deltex1]

NTP appears to have left Austin...got her addadicktome and boogied...

Yeah, and I'm now in San Antonio and across the street from your house, watching you. Think about getting some new underwear. And stop picking at your face. Only makes it worse.

Are you the bruh mowing the lawn? It's hot out there...take a break...

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Disperse the races/colors/faiths/classes. If you stay in the ghetto, you become the ghetto.

Spoken like someone who's even ever seen one. I love the way white people spout stuff like this and have no idea what they are talking about.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Investing in these neighborhoods will bear nothing, they are money pits, all we are doing is throwing money down the drain. They are born into the welfare state and make it a career

Community Investment? Oh, Please

In the face of the Baltimore riots, President Obama is reportedly resigned that nothing much can be done to prevent similar events in the future because of Republican opposition to any greater “investment” by the federal government in mainly black inner-city communities.

“Investment”? What a joke! An investment is something from which you expect a return, and those communities have about as much chance of paying anyone back anything as Confederate War Bonds do of suddenly maturing at ten percent compound.

These communities are not an “investment”; they’re an expense! The biggest money hole in the history of the human race. Since Lyndon Johnson’s War on Poverty program was enacted, we have spent over fifteen trillion – with a t – on welfare (AFDC and other programs), Food Stamps, WIC stamps, free pre-school, free primary and secondary education, free medical care, free cell phones, Section 8 housing assistance, food pantries, free transportation to the Social Services Office and your medical appointments, free legal services, and I don’t know what else because I haven’t the stomach to look any further.

Articles Community Investment Oh Please

According to Repubs, poor countries are "emerging markets".

Poor areas of the US are to be ignored and crapped on.

How about we invest in our own country, our own people and our own future?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

NTP appears to have left Austin...got her addadicktome and boogied...

Yeah, and I'm now in San Antonio and across the street from your house, watching you. Think about getting some new underwear. And stop picking at your face. Only makes it worse.

Are you the bruh mowing the lawn? It's hot out there...take a break...

I don't mow lawns. I have an illegal alien who does it for me.