Zone1 The Government Had the Solution to Racial Inequality 56 Years Ago

Since 1980, American businesses have needlessly sent jobs out of this country. Everybody’s hero, Reagan, implemented a government business philosophy of laissez-faire economics that has cost the workers of this nation millions of jobs. “Unqualified” blacks, Asians, illegal immigrants from the southern border, or whoever else was blamed had nothing to do with taking jobs from the white working class. CEOS and corporate owners sent those jobs away. Their pockets got fat while race baiting white working-class citizens into a victim mentality.

"Since the beginning of the 1980s, employment relations in U.S. industrial corporations have undergone three major structural changes—which I summarize as rationalization, marketization, and globalization—that have permanently eliminated middle-class jobs. From the early 1980s, rationalization, characterized by plant closings, eliminated the jobs of unionized blue-collar workers. From the early 1990s, marketization, characterized by the end of a career with one company as an employment norm, placed the job security of middle-aged and older white-collar workers in jeopardy. From the early 2000s, globalization, characterized by the movement of employment offshore, left all members of the U.S. labor force, even those with advanced educational credentials and substantial work experience, vulnerable to displacement."

The quote was from a paper titled “The Financialization of the U.S. Corporation: What Has Been Lost, and How It Can Be Regained,” by William Lazonick. In this paper, he describes the forces that created the changes in American business that are the causes for the current weakened state of the American worker. Beginning in 1980, he says America went through a phase where factories began closing. These closings started the end of good-paying union jobs that allowed workers to raise families and live in relative middle-class comfort. The appearance of Windows and PCs around 1990 helped begin a phase in American business that ended the one job career for white-collar workers.

As the new century arrived, so did a new business strategy. In 2000, America outsourced even more jobs to lower-wage paying countries eliminating more jobs formerly held by Americans.9 American business strategy shifted from using profits to create jobs to match the changes caused by progress as was done in the past and focused on increasing the return on shareholder investments. According to Lazonick, this was based on “agency theory,” a theory with the premise that only shareholders have a stake in the distribution of corporate profits because they invest the money. The implementation of agency theory into practice appears to have left out one crucial aspect in the corporate equation: the value of the worker’s time.

"Once U.S. corporations adopted these structural changes in employment, however, they often pursued these employment strategies purely for financial gain. Some companies closed manufacturing plants, terminated experienced (and generally more expensive) workers, and offshored production to low-wage areas of the world simply to increase profits, often at the expense of the companies’ long-term competitive capabilities and without regard for displaced employees’ long years of service. Moreover, as these changes became embedded in the structure of U.S. employment, business corporations failed to invest in new, higher value-added job creation on a sufficient scale to provide a foundation for equitable and stable growth in the U.S. economy.”

The corporate heads didn’t give a damn about the working-class white person. While working-class whites lost jobs, executives and wealthy shareholders made money. While working-class whites were increasingly becoming members of food lines, executives and business owners were increasing their memberships in exclusive private clubs. While white working-class people were losing their homes, rich white men like president number 45 purchased the properties they lost. The white working class was getting played while wealthy CEOs were paid exorbitant incomes from stock options included in their compensation. Corporations were buying back billions of dollars worth of stocks while claiming that blacks, Japanese, illegals from the south, or the Chinese were taking jobs from “real Americans.” Like marks manipulated by con men, working-class whites fell for the race-baiting and began electing people who would move more jobs away.

Source: Get Your Knee Off Our Necks- pgs 382-385.
 
You are wrong. Just like Moynihans report, which was debunked damn near right after it was publlshed. But white racists cling that instead of looking at the real problem, continuing white racism.

"In 1965, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report, The Negro Family: The Case for National Action, attributed racial inequality as well as poverty and crime in the black community to family structure, particularly the prevalence of families headed by single mothers. Not only did research at the time cast doubt on this causality, but evidence over the last the 50 years demonstrates that rates of child poverty, educational attainment, and crime do not track rates of single parenthood. Thus, even though the share of children living with a single mother rose for all racial and ethnic groups through the mid-1990s and has remained high since then, school completion and youth arrests for violent crimes have declined significantly, while poverty rates have fluctuated according to economic conditions. Family structure does not drive racial inequity, and racial inequity persists regardless of family structure."

-Amy Traub, Laura Sullivan, Tatjana Meschede and Thomas Shapiro, DEMOS, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.”
How do you try to make the case that the Moynihan report is discredited when events unfolded exactly as predicted?
 
This thread is about a solution the government had for the problem of white racism 56 years ago. It is not about Lisas whining about Anti Semitism, or any of Hectors bullshit. The link to the report is in the OP and after every section where I post the Commissions proposed solutions. If you cannot discuss these things, stay the hell out of this thread.
Why are the MODs allowing this?
 
If this report suggested that the biggest problem for black citizens was white citizens, why didn’t the blacks move away from the whites? If that’s the problem, integration is the exact opposite of what would have fixed the problems, it would seem.
The report said WHITE RACISM. WHITE RACISM is not white people. Because whites actually exist who are not racist.
 
Look, let's stop this "Government can't do" idiocy. From its inception, government has made certaain that equaity ddm't exist and people in this country made sure of it. Seems like Government reguating emotions and thinking was fine when whites emotionally thought they had total and absolute supremacy. Therefore government is the exact place for this to be done.
Well that made absolutely no sense, you are right on par my friend. :113:
 
EDUCATION

* Sharply increased efforts to eliminate de facto segregation in our schools through substantial federal aid to school systems seeking to desegregate either within the system or in cooperation with neighboring school systems.

* Elimination of racial discrimination in Northern as well as Southern schools by vigorous application of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

* Extension of quality early childhood education to every disadvantaged child in the country.

* Efforts to improve dramatically schools serving disadvantaged children through substantial federal funding of year-round compensatory education programs, improved teaching, and expanded experimentation and research.

* Elimination of illiteracy through greater federal support for adult basic education.

* Enlarged opportunities for parent and community participation in the public schools.

* Reoriented vocational education emphasizing work-experience training and the involvement of business and industry.

* Expanded opportunities for higher education through increased federal assistance to disadvantaged students.

* Revision of state aid formulas to assure more per student aid to districts having a high proportion of disadvantaged school-age children.

THE WELFARE SYSTEM

Our present system of public welfare is designed to save money instead of people, and tragically ends up doing neither. This system has two critical deficiencies:

First, it excludes large numbers of persons who are in great need, and who, if provided a decent level of support, might be able to become more productive and self-sufficient. No federal funds are available for millions of men and women who are needy but neither aged, handicapped nor the parents of minor children.

Second, for those included, the system provides assistance well below the minimum necessary for a decent level of existence, and imposes restrictions that encourage continued dependency on welfare and undermine self-respect.

A welter of statutory requirements and administrative practices and regulations operate to remind recipients that they are considered untrustworthy, promiscuous and lazy. Residence requirements prevent assistance to people in need who are newly arrived in the state. Regular searches of recipients' homes violate privacy. Inadequate social services compound the problems.

The Commission recommends that the federal government, acting with state and local governments where necessary, reform the existing welfare system to:

* Establish uniform national standards of assistance at least as high as the annual "poverty level" of income, now set by the Social Security Administration at $3,335 per year for an urban family of four.

* Require that all states receiving federal welfare contributions participate in the Aid to Families with Dependent Children Unemployed Parents program (AFDC-UP) that permits assistance to families with both father and mother in the home, thus aiding the family while it is still intact.

* Bear a substantially greater portion of all welfare costs-at least 90 percent of total payments.

* Increase incentives for seeking employment and job training, but remove restrictions recently enacted by the Congress that would compel mothers of young children to work.

* Provide more adequate social services through neighborhood centers and family-planning programs.

* Remove the freeze placed by the 1967 welfare amendments on the percentage of children in a state that can be covered by federal assistance. *Eliminate residence requirements.

As a long-range goal, the Commission recommends that the federal government seek to develop a national system of income supplementation based strictly on need with two broad and basic purposes:

* To provide, for those who can work or who do work, any necessary supplements in such a way as to develop incentives for fuller employment;

* To provide, for those who cannot work and for mothers who decide to remain with their children, a minimum standard of decent living, and to aid in the saving of children from the prison of poverty that has held their parents.

A broad system of implementation would involve substantially greater federal expenditures than anything now contemplated. The cost will range widely depending on the standard of need accepted as the "basic allowance" to individuals and families, and on the rate at which additional income above this level is taxed. Yet if the deepening cycle of poverty and dependence on welfare can be broken, if the children of the poor can be given the opportunity to scale the wall that now separates them from the rest of society, the return on this investment will be great indeed.


This is the generation of whites who were given trillions in government assistance through various programs and yet when these things were proposed, the same white recipients of government handouts started hollering and complaining about how wrong it was for government to do things like this.
 
The report said WHITE RACISM. WHITE RACISM is not white people. Because whites actually exist who are not racist
No. Valuing the needs and desires of people like you, who agree with you over the needs and desires of people who are not like you is not Racism… it’s Common Sense
 
LOL! You are the problem because white men are not overreprsented in every category because they are all the most qualified or willing/capable to do what it takes to succeed. Whites have received the most help from the government, yet try telling everybody else how they suceeded without government help.
Is this your solution of 56 years ago. This is why most on here just mock, Not only is it not a solution it's more racist baiting.
I still say , no way you are Black.
 
EDUCATION

* Sharply increased efforts to eliminate de facto segregation in our schools through substantial federal aid to school systems seeking to desegregate either within the system or in cooperation with neighboring school systems.

* Elimination of racial discrimination in Northern as well as Southern schools by vigorous application of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

* Extension of quality early childhood education to every disadvantaged child in the country.

* Efforts to improve dramatically schools serving disadvantaged children through substantial federal funding of year-round compensatory education programs, improved teaching, and expanded experimentation and research.

* Elimination of illiteracy through greater federal support for adult basic education.

* Enlarged opportunities for parent and community participation in the public schools.

* Reoriented vocational education emphasizing work-experience training and the involvement of business and industry.

* Expanded opportunities for higher education through increased federal assistance to disadvantaged students.

* Revision of state aid formulas to assure more per student aid to districts having a high proportion of disadvantaged school-age children.

THE WELFARE SYSTEM

Our present system of public welfare is designed to save money instead of people, and tragically ends up doing neither. This system has two critical deficiencies:

First, it excludes large numbers of persons who are in great need, and who, if provided a decent level of support, might be able to become more productive and self-sufficient. No federal funds are available for millions of men and women who are needy but neither aged, handicapped nor the parents of minor children.

Second, for those included, the system provides assistance well below the minimum necessary for a decent level of existence, and imposes restrictions that encourage continued dependency on welfare and undermine self-respect.

A welter of statutory requirements and administrative practices and regulations operate to remind recipients that they are considered untrustworthy, promiscuous and lazy. Residence requirements prevent assistance to people in need who are newly arrived in the state. Regular searches of recipients' homes violate privacy. Inadequate social services compound the problems.

The Commission recommends that the federal government, acting with state and local governments where necessary, reform the existing welfare system to:

* Establish uniform national standards of assistance at least as high as the annual "poverty level" of income, now set by the Social Security Administration at $3,335 per year for an urban family of four.

* Require that all states receiving federal welfare contributions participate in the Aid to Families with Dependent Children Unemployed Parents program (AFDC-UP) that permits assistance to families with both father and mother in the home, thus aiding the family while it is still intact.

* Bear a substantially greater portion of all welfare costs-at least 90 percent of total payments.

* Increase incentives for seeking employment and job training, but remove restrictions recently enacted by the Congress that would compel mothers of young children to work.

* Provide more adequate social services through neighborhood centers and family-planning programs.

* Remove the freeze placed by the 1967 welfare amendments on the percentage of children in a state that can be covered by federal assistance. *Eliminate residence requirements.

As a long-range goal, the Commission recommends that the federal government seek to develop a national system of income supplementation based strictly on need with two broad and basic purposes:

* To provide, for those who can work or who do work, any necessary supplements in such a way as to develop incentives for fuller employment;

* To provide, for those who cannot work and for mothers who decide to remain with their children, a minimum standard of decent living, and to aid in the saving of children from the prison of poverty that has held their parents.

A broad system of implementation would involve substantially greater federal expenditures than anything now contemplated. The cost will range widely depending on the standard of need accepted as the "basic allowance" to individuals and families, and on the rate at which additional income above this level is taxed. Yet if the deepening cycle of poverty and dependence on welfare can be broken, if the children of the poor can be given the opportunity to scale the wall that now separates them from the rest of society, the return on this investment will be great indeed.


This is the generation of whites who were given trillions in government assistance through various programs and yet when these things were proposed, the same white recipients of government handouts started hollering and complaining about how wrong it was for government to do things like this.
By far the greatest reason Black children do rotten in school : NO FATHERS
The best incentive for work is to have an education that makes you employable. Again you miss the boat (and the ocean)
Title IX -- let me tell you , once you let the Feds in they latch on to everything. You will be spending remedial reading money on unisex bathrooms

As to 'aid' that is what destroyed Blacks

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Despite the grand myth that black economic progress began or accelerated with the passage of the civil rights laws and “war on poverty” programs of the 1960s, the cold fact is that the poverty rate among blacks fell from 87 percent in 1940 to 47 percent by 1960. This was before any of those programs began.

Over the next 20 years, the poverty rate among blacks fell another 18 percentage points, compared to the 40-point drop in the previous 20 years. This was the continuation of a previous economic trend, at a slower rate of progress, not the economic grand deliverance proclaimed by liberals and self-serving black “leaders.”

…..

Nearly a hundred years of the supposed “legacy of slavery” found most black children [78%] being raised in two-parent families in 1960. But thirty years after the liberal welfare state found the great majority of black children being raised by a single parent [66%]."

PEOPLE LIKE YOU MURDER THE BLACK DREAM
 
How do you try to make the case that the Moynihan report is discredited when events unfolded exactly as predicted?
But they didn't. And that's the probem.

"In 1965, Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s report, The Negro Family: The Case for National Action, attributed racial inequality as well as poverty and crime in the black community to family structure, particularly the prevalence of families headed by single mothers. Not only did research at the time cast doubt on this causality, but evidence over the last the 50 years demonstrates that rates of child poverty, educational attainment, and crime do not track rates of single parenthood. Thus, even though the share of children living with a single mother rose for all racial and ethnic groups through the mid-1990s and has remained high since then, school completion and youth arrests for violent crimes have declined significantly, while poverty rates have fluctuated according to economic conditions. Family structure does not drive racial inequity, and racial inequity persists regardless of family structure."

-Amy Traub, Laura Sullivan, Tatjana Meschede and Thomas Shapiro, DEMOS, “The Asset Value of Whiteness: Understanding the Racial Wealth Gap.”
 
No. Valuing the needs and desires of people like you, who agree with you over the needs and desires of people who are not like you is not Racism… it’s Common Sense
Given the vast deficits created due to white racism it can't be common sense.
 
HOUSING

The Commission recommends that the federal government:

* Enact a comprehensive and enforceable federal open housing law to cover the sale or rental of all housing, including single family homes.

* Reorient federal housing programs to place more low and moderate income housing outside of ghetto areas.

* Bring within the reach of low and moderate income families within the next five years six million new and existing units of decent housing, beginning with 600,000 units in the next year.

To reach this goal we recommend:

* Expansion and modification of the rent supplement program to permit use of supplements for existing housing, thus greatly increasing the reach of the program.

* Expansion and modification of the below-market interest rate program to enlarge the interest subsidy to all sponsors and provide interest-free loans to nonprofit sponsors to cover pre-construction costs, and permit sale of projects to nonprofit corporations, cooperatives, or condominiums.

* Creation of an ownership supplement program similar to present rent supplements, to make home ownership possible for low-income families.

* Federal writedown of interest rates on loans to private builders constructing moderaterent housing.

* Expansion of the public housing program, with emphasis on small units on scattered sites, and leasing and "turnkey" programs.

* Expansion of the Model Cities program.

* Expansion and reorientation of the urban renewal program to give priority to projects directly assisting low-income households to obtain adequate housing.

CONCLUSION

One of the first witnesses to be invited to appear before this Commission was Dr. Kenneth B. Clark, a distinguished and perceptive scholar. Referring to the reports of earlier riot commissions, he said:

I read that report. . . of the 1919 riot in Chicago, and it is as if I were reading the report of the investigating committee on the Harlem riot of '35, the report of the investigating committee on the Harlem riot of '43, the report of the McCone Commission on the Watts riot. I must again in candor say to you members of this Commission--it is a kind of Alice in Wonderland--with the same moving picture re-shown over and over again, the same analysis, the same recommendations, and the same inaction.

These words come to our minds as we conclude this report.

We have provided an honest beginning. We have learned much. But we have uncovered no startling truths, no unique insights, no simple solutions. The destruction and the bitterness of racial disorder, the harsh polemics of black revolt and white repression have been seen and heard before in this country.

It is time now to end the destruction and the violence, not only in the streets of the ghetto but in the lives of people.


REPORT OF THE NATIONAL ADVISORY COMMISSION ON CIVIL DISORDERS- pp. 1-29.


On February 26, 2018, 50 years after the Kerner Commission findings, the Economic Policy Institute published a report evaluating the progress of the black community since the Kerner Report was released. The study compared the improvement in black communities in 2018 with the black community at the time of the Kerner Commission. Titled “50 Years After the Kerner Commission,” the study concluded that there had been some improvements in the situation blacks faced, but blacks still faced disadvantages based on race.

Following up on this, Richard Rothstein of the Economic Policy Institute wrote an op-ed published in the February 28 edition of the New York Daily News titled, “50 years after the Kerner Commission, minimal racial progress.” After studying the Kerner Report, Rothstein stated: “So little has changed since 1968 that the report remains worth reading as a near-contemporary description of racial inequality.”

The words of Kenneth Clark ring true to this very moment. In 2020, the nation experenced nationwide unrest created by the same conditions that caused the uprising in the 1960's and yet, we have a section of society who stilll refuses to see the problem. The problem is not black culture, it is the racist subculture in the white community.
 
Given the vast deficits created due to white racism it can't be common sense
Get rid of the foreign aid and social welfare spending (which includes all foreign military entanglements) and our budget would be fine. That is the biggest “caring for someone else before yourself” part of the government.
 
Get rid of the foreign aid and social welfare spending (which includes all foreign military entanglements) and our budget would be fine. That is the biggest “caring for someone else before yourself” part of the government.
We wouldn't have a problem with that if not for the loss of taxable revenue due to racism. We'd have plenty of money to do what we need.
 
We wouldn't have a problem with that if not for the loss of taxable revenue due to racism. We'd have plenty of money to do what we need
The Government already has far too much money and most is being used for immoral and unconstitutional programs as it is.
 

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