Comrade Trump Jr. compares Syrian Refugees to Skittles

[g5000]

My point is, ladies and gentlemen, the Skittles analogy is a stupid, illogical one.

Hopefully the next time you hear of a gun homicide, which I guarantee you will hear about before you hear of another Muslim with a meat cleaver, you will remember the Skittles.

Some American was probably murdered by a gun owner as I typed this.

 

[Correll]

I am a man. I walk upright. I fear neither guns nor dogs nor swimming pools nor refugees. I recognize flawed arguments from a mile away.

Too bad Trump's Chumps cannot say the same.

Fear is the rational response to random death.

Those moments of fear are when you find out if all those platitudes about belief are something you really hold as important, or if you were just talking crap.

There's a lot of good people dying in Syria that wouldn't be dying if we take them in. This is the moment that the world will look and see what we're made of. Are we cowards that run away as fast as we can, or are we the brave and good people that head into trouble to help?

I've lived my whole life believing that we as a country are the people that run in and help, danger be damned. We saw that on 9/11 when firefighters ran into the Towers to help people out. We saw that as people stopped and helped others down the stairs when they could have just as easily ran past. We saw that when the passengers of United 93 took down their plane rather than give in to the terrorists. I've seen that in countless mass shootings as officers rush in to save lives.

This is no different, and it is a test just as important. It is a test the world failed back in the 40's when millions of Jews found themselves trapped in Nazi Germany because the whole world turned their back on them. It is a test. And if we fail this test, then we show the world our principles aren't worth crap.

So yeah, this Skittle analogy pisses me off. And yeah, I get pissed off when I see the cowards in this thread who have decided it is better to let people die than to help. So I will say this as clearly as I can:

If you are refusing to take in the lost and desperate because you are scared, you are not an American. You are not a Christian. You do not represent the values Americans hold. You do not represent the values of the "Shining City on the Hill." You do not represent the values of an America that is Great or Exceptional. You are cowards and weak. You represent a view of America that is no better, no more exceptional, and no more special than any other nation on Earth. You are not Making America Great Again! You are making us weak, cowardly, and at best average.

Stripped of your drama, your post comes down to calling me a coward because I put my personal safety ahead of the lives of Syrians.


Except.

That I recognize that the odds of me personally being harmed is very small.

My motivation is the certainty that OTHER AMERICANS will be killed.


So, fuck off.

 

[Correll]

You mean like the generalization that Syrians are terrorists?

I have never said all Syrians are terrorists. I have pointed out, though, that the Obama Terrorist Experts have warned Obama that terrorists have infiltrated the ranks of Syrian Refugees AND that Barry's 'vetting' process has not caught them

YOU, on the other hand, implied all Irish are drunks.

No one has said that all syrians are terrorists.


Liberals just lie about what conservatives say.


It is the only way they can "win" arguments.

 

[rightwinger]

I wonder why nobody was concerned about enemies posing as refugees when 1,600,000 Vietnamese refugees immigrated to the USA, after their countrymen killed 58,000 Americans?

Vietnamese Immigrants in the United States

Maybe because terrorism and holy war are not embedded in the Vietnam Culture, like in Islam.

Right. It is a cultural thing. Negros are lazy, Irish are drunks, Italians are criminals, Chinese are crafty, Jews are misers, Japanese are duplicitous, and Muslims are terrorists.

If they ever remake all in the family, you could try out for the part of Archie Bunker.

Well, then Correll, here is a whole new "culture" to be afraid of. White, Anglo-Saxon bikers shoot and kill 8 other white anglo-Saxon bikers in Waco.

Nothing in your post explains why we should be actively working to get more Americans horribly murdered.

If you are worried about Americans being horribly murdered, why don't you do something about gun violence?

 

[rightwinger]

You mean like the generalization that Syrians are terrorists?

I have never said all Syrians are terrorists. I have pointed out, though, that the Obama Terrorist Experts have warned Obama that terrorists have infiltrated the ranks of Syrian Refugees AND that Barry's 'vetting' process has not caught them

YOU, on the other hand, implied all Irish are drunks.

No one has said that all syrians are terrorists.


Liberals just lie about what conservatives say.


It is the only way they can "win" arguments.

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

 

[rightwinger]

"Unrestricted Immigration and Its Results - A Possible Curiosity of the Twentieth Century".

The Know-Nothings hated all them rapist Irish and Germans and Italians coming in. They shoulda stopped them!

Too bad the Know-Nothings did not have Skittles

 

[Correll]

Taste the rainbow? I suppose that could be a crass slogan for welcoming refugees but why do that?

Trump has no respect for people not him. It's like Romney's wife with "you people" and Romney with the 47%.
As far as Clinton talking about Trump's half, we all know she meant the Alt Right, Aryan Nation, KKK half.

Besides, we knew what the real message was:

 

[Seawytch]

I am a man. I walk upright. I fear neither guns nor dogs nor swimming pools nor refugees. I recognize flawed arguments from a mile away.

Too bad Trump's Chumps cannot say the same.

Fear is the rational response to random death.

Those moments of fear are when you find out if all those platitudes about belief are something you really hold as important, or if you were just talking crap.

There's a lot of good people dying in Syria that wouldn't be dying if we take them in. This is the moment that the world will look and see what we're made of. Are we cowards that run away as fast as we can, or are we the brave and good people that head into trouble to help?

I've lived my whole life believing that we as a country are the people that run in and help, danger be damned. We saw that on 9/11 when firefighters ran into the Towers to help people out. We saw that as people stopped and helped others down the stairs when they could have just as easily ran past. We saw that when the passengers of United 93 took down their plane rather than give in to the terrorists. I've seen that in countless mass shootings as officers rush in to save lives.

This is no different, and it is a test just as important. It is a test the world failed back in the 40's when millions of Jews found themselves trapped in Nazi Germany because the whole world turned their back on them. It is a test. And if we fail this test, then we show the world our principles aren't worth crap.

So yeah, this Skittle analogy pisses me off. And yeah, I get pissed off when I see the cowards in this thread who have decided it is better to let people die than to help. So I will say this as clearly as I can:

If you are refusing to take in the lost and desperate because you are scared, you are not an American. You are not a Christian. You do not represent the values Americans hold. You do not represent the values of the "Shining City on the Hill." You do not represent the values of an America that is Great or Exceptional. You are cowards and weak. You represent a view of America that is no better, no more exceptional, and no more special than any other nation on Earth. You are not Making America Great Again! You are making us weak, cowardly, and at best average.

Stripped of your drama, your post comes down to calling me a coward because I put my personal safety ahead of the lives of Syrians.


Except.

That I recognize that the odds of me personally being harmed is very small.

My motivation is the certainty that OTHER AMERICANS will be killed.


So, fuck off.

More "other Americans" will be killed by toddlers than Syrian refugees. Where's your concern?

 

[easyt65]

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

Thank you for demonstrating you don't even understand the analogy.

The ENTIRE BOWL of skittles are the refugees...the 3 - 4 poisonous ones are the ones amongst the rest that are the terrorists.

See, if you would have just admitted hours ago that you didn't understand it we could have avoided all this.

 

[rightwinger]

The Irish were drunks and hoodlums....

'Generalization' - the tell-tale sign of a BIGOT.

You mean like the generalization that Syrians are terrorists?

Who said that?

Trumps Skittle analogy

Ban all Syrians in the bowl because some may be terrorists

 

[ptbw forever]

Skittles Issues Terse Response to Trump Jr. Refugee Tweet

Just another spoiled rich kid. I am sure dad is very proud of Comrade Junior for such a sick analogy,,,

apparently the company that makes skittles told him to stop comparing candy to human beings.

although that type of thing does harken back to white supremacist memes.

there's a shock.

http://www.salon.com/2016/09/21/donald-trump-jr-and-the-white-nationalist-alt-right-a-pattern-that-goes-way-beyond-coincidence/


When Donald Jr. spoke to a white-supremacist radio host in March, it set off a few alarm bells, if only because his father’s extreme immigration policies had been so ecstatically received by white nationalist groups. But most people chalked it up to inexperience and let it go. Surely Junior wasn’t as crudely racist as the old man, who was reported to have a book of Hitler’s speeches on his bedside table.

But just a few days later Donald Jr. retweeted a racist science-fiction writer named Theodore Beale, who goes by the handle of “Vox Day,” claiming that a famous picture of a Trump supporter giving a Nazi salute was actually a follower of Sen. Bernie Sanders. The apple hasn’t fallen far from the tree after all.

A couple of days later Trump Jr. stepped in it again, saying the media would be “warming up the gas chamber” for Republicans if they lied and cheated the way Hillary Clinton does. He claimed he was talking about capital punishment, but no American state has used gas as an execution method in recent years, and Donald Jr.’s association with virulent anti-Semites makes that claim ring a little bit hollow.
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And then came the Skittles incident. Donald Jr. sent out a deeply offensive tweet with an image of a bowl of Skittles and the words “If I had a bowl of Skittles and I told you three would kill you would you take a handful? That’s our Syrian refugee problem.” It’s a terrible metaphor, wrong in every way, and Donald Jr. took some heat for it. But it’s yet another window into his association with alt-right white nationalism. That bad metaphor has been around in various forms for a long time. In this country it was usually a bowl of M&Ms representing black people. The people who traffic in this garbage changed it to Skittles because that was the candy Trayvon Martin had bought at a convenience store on the night he was shot dead by vigilante George Zimmerman. Yes, it’s that sick.
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So Skittles has replaced M&Ms as the "bowl of black people". Comrade Trump Junior may have a few extra white sheets in his closet.

Beware of the white helicopters....

 

[Correll]

You mean like the generalization that Syrians are terrorists?

I have never said all Syrians are terrorists. I have pointed out, though, that the Obama Terrorist Experts have warned Obama that terrorists have infiltrated the ranks of Syrian Refugees AND that Barry's 'vetting' process has not caught them

YOU, on the other hand, implied all Irish are drunks.

No one has said that all syrians are terrorists.


Liberals just lie about what conservatives say.


It is the only way they can "win" arguments.

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

My God.

The bowl is full. THREE of them will kill you/are terrorists.

HOW CAN YOU THINK HE IS CLAIMING THEY ALL WILL KILL YOU/ARE TERRORISTS?


Are you insane?


I don't see how I can explain this any simpler without you being here so I can actually help you count a bowl of skittles.

 

[Correll]

If you are given a small bowl of skittles and are told that 5 - 6 of them are poisonous, are you really going to take the chance of picking out a few and HOPE you didn't pick the poisonous ones?

The Irish were drunks and hoodlums....

'Generalization' - the tell-tale sign of a BIGOT.

You mean like the generalization that Syrians are terrorists?

Who said that?

Trumps Skittle analogy

Ban all Syrians in the bowl because some may be terrorists

Some does not equal all.


Are you insane?

Some does not equal all.


Are you insane?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Skittles Issues Terse Response to Trump Jr. Refugee Tweet

Just another spoiled rich kid. I am sure dad is very proud of Comrade Junior for such a sick analogy,,,

And just 150 years ago they said the same about Irish immigrants...

yup, and we never had problems with the Irish mobs did we?

There has not been a nationality that has moved to the US that didn't have mobs and committed violence or acts of criminality..

Muslims are different. Not worth it.

 

[Correll]

I face the same choice in everything I eat.

Bullshit...and bogus dodge. You are NOT told every day that some of what you are about to eat IS poisoned and some is not!

You just don't want to admit what Jr said was a great analogy. Like most rabidly partisan Libs, your ego and your partisanship won't ALLOW you to admit it.

'Nuff said...keep wallowing in your denial and distractions while making bigoted statements.

There is danger in everything we do..

Eating, driving a car, crossing the street, going out after dark....yet we still do it
We ignore the potential "bad skittles" and go on with our lives

Those who have been killed, can't get on with their lives. Because they are dead.


Do you want to increase that number?

Do you accept Terrorism as part of the new normal?

 

[rightwinger]

You mean like the generalization that Syrians are terrorists?

I have never said all Syrians are terrorists. I have pointed out, though, that the Obama Terrorist Experts have warned Obama that terrorists have infiltrated the ranks of Syrian Refugees AND that Barry's 'vetting' process has not caught them

YOU, on the other hand, implied all Irish are drunks.

No one has said that all syrians are terrorists.


Liberals just lie about what conservatives say.


It is the only way they can "win" arguments.

Where in Trumps "Skittle" analogy does he make room for some Syrians not being terrorists?

My God.

The bowl is full. THREE of them will kill you/are terrorists.

HOW CAN YOU THINK HE IS CLAIMING THEY ALL WILL KILL YOU/ARE TERRORISTS?


Are you insane?


I don't see how I can explain this any simpler without you being here so I can actually help you count a bowl of skittles.

Trump is daring you to eat from the bowl of skittles because you don't know which ones are terrorists

THAT is his analogy. He is saying do not accept anyone from the bowl because they might be terrorists

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You mean like the generalization that Syrians are terrorists?

One would have to be retarded to the max to believe that after the number that uncle tom Obama has done to Syria that many of them would not want to retaliate against the US and Americans.


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We let Vietnamese refugees into the country and many had a grudge against the us. They made good citizens

Incorrect.

In the 1950's Viet Nam was divided into two , the Communist North and the non communist South.

The US fought to liberate SOUTH VIETNAM from the tyrannical North.


In Syria, on the other hand

the US invaded that Country in order to support and defend Israel The US has invaded Syria in order to allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights and in order to make Israel the only power in the middle east. The US has financially and militarily aided ISIS and Al Nusrah , which are populated by former Baathists , Sunni, Iraqis who were displaced when Bush II invaded that Country.

So Syrians know, or should know, that the Obama administration invaded and destroyed their country PRIMARILY to comply with Israel demands.


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The US has invaded Syria in order to allow Israel to retain the Golan Heights

Israel has easily held the Golan Heights for nearly 50 years.
They needed no help against little Assad.

in order to make Israel the only power in the middle east

They are the only military power in the middle east.

Well, your neocrazy homies didn't think so.


Neither does Obama, he is in Syria, ain't he?

This doctrine was prefigured in a 1996 paper prepared for then Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by a working group consisting of several individuals who are now in top spots in the Bush administration. "A Clean Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm" recommended that Israel set itself free from its embarrassing and debilitating dependence on U.S. military and diplomatic support: no matter how unconditional, this support constrained Israel and prevented it from pursuing its true interests. The paper, co-authored by Richard Perle, James Colbert,Charles Fairbanks, Jr., Douglas Feith, Robert Loewenberg, David Wurmser, and Meyrav Wurmser, portrayed Syria as the main enemy of Israel, but maintained the road to Damascus had to first pass through Baghdad:

"Israel can shape its strategic environment, in cooperation with Turkey and Jordan, by weakening, containing, and even rolling back Syria. This effort can focus on removing Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq – an important Israeli strategic objective in its own right – as a means of foiling Syria's regional ambitions. Jordan has challenged Syria's regional ambitions recently by suggesting the restoration of the Hashemites in Iraq."


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The Syrian military can't even deal with the Syrian people....how are they a threat to the Israeli military?

Neither does Obama, he is in Syria,

Because he's a fucking moron, not because he wants to help Israel.

 

[Correll]

But they did slaughter Americans. So did the Italian mobsters....at a much higher rate than we lose to terrorism

As Capone said, "We only kill each other".

With Muslims that would not be much of a problem.

I grew up in the 60s and 70s

When someone talked "terrorism" you thought of the IRA randomly bombing
You heard daily reports of Mafia killings and gang wars

These were our "terrorists". Yet we did not talk about banning Irish or Italian immigration. There was no talk about turning down an entire bowl of skittles because one or two may be bad

Actually both those waves of immigration were ended by legislative restrictions on immigration.

 

[rightwinger]

I face the same choice in everything I eat.

Bullshit...and bogus dodge. You are NOT told every day that some of what you are about to eat IS poisoned and some is not!

You just don't want to admit what Jr said was a great analogy. Like most rabidly partisan Libs, your ego and your partisanship won't ALLOW you to admit it.

'Nuff said...keep wallowing in your denial and distractions while making bigoted statements.

There is danger in everything we do..

Eating, driving a car, crossing the street, going out after dark....yet we still do it
We ignore the potential "bad skittles" and go on with our lives

Those who have been killed, can't get on with their lives. Because they are dead.


Do you want to increase that number?

Do you accept Terrorism as part of the new normal?

Very true...you can't get back people killed in car crashes. There were 32,000 of them last year vs less than 100 killed by terrorists.

Which is the more dangerous bowl of skittles?

 

[Correll]

You just don't get it.

NO, you are AVOIDING 'it'.

No one tells you when you wake up in the morning, 'Here are 3 pairs of socks to wear today - 1 of them will kill you. Now pick'.

THAT is the analogy Jr offered, and that is the question I am asking you. It's a pretty simple damn 'Yes' or 'No' question....that you REFUSE to answer because you KNOW - we ALL do - your answer is 'NO'!

One last time, man up - 'You are given a bowl of skittles and told there are several in the bowl that WILL kill you. Do you grab a handful at this point and eat them?'

At this point, my guess is you will either refuse to answer the question again or lie and say 'yes' yo save face.

If I were you, I would just drop it, as I said, because you are just embarrassing yourself.

No one is answering your challenge because it's a crappy analogy. People aren't Skittles. If I refuse to eat the Skittles in the bowl the good ones aren't going to be killed by their government. Analogies are useful, but they have limits. You can only push an analogy so far and this analogy breaks down as soon as you compare people to candy.

The better analogy is this:

A building is burning down. One of the people still in the building is an arsonist who likely will set another fire. Do you keep all of the people locked up in the burning building, or do you let them out?

What's your answer?

They are welcome to leave the building.

THEy just can't come home with me.