Confederate Monuments Vandalized and Flags Burned in Protests in South Carolina

[JQPublic1]

Burning the flag of an enemy nation which only existed during a war with the USA seems fine with me. Whatever you want to claim about "historical significance" is ridiculous. That flag has been used as a symbol of racial subjugation and racial terrorism since its creation.

It doesn't matter if it's fine with you or not, we have the 1st amendment in this country. The flag is part of our history, and you don't have the right to not be offended. Liberals are some of the most intolerant people in the world and you prove it every time you try to force your will on the rest of society, regardless of what the Constitution says.

Liberals aren't intolerant. The Rebel flag has been flown rebelliously on various public monuments for more than 140 years after the resounding defeat of the Confederacy. That is far too long but "liberls," and other people of good faith, bowed to the sympathies of descendants of a defeated enemy. Their tax dollars spent to support an enemy flag. Speaking fo forcing someone' will on others, I think it is time to stop forcing Americans citizens to have to view that confederate rag every time they visit the capitol.

What is really surprising is that you are so attached to an alleged Democrat relic after all your crying about Democratic plantations and KKK origins. Perhaps , though, it is the pending loss of Southern Democrat Conservatism tied to that flag that really bothers you more than party affiliation.

I don't give a damn about the flag, I give a damn about the 1st amendment and the Constitution. You obviously don't. If the people of that state want the flag to come down, fine. If they don't, you don't have the right to demand it anyway, regardless of what you think it stands for.

Well, I have the right to demand anything I please...That doesn't mean those demands will be honored or addressed.

In this case, the people of South Carolina probably did not have a say in placing the flag on the capitol so why should they have a say in the removal of that flag? Who made the decision to place it there in the first place? I doubt if there was a public referendum where one could vote yea or nay on the matter. I think some past governor with strong ties to the defeated Confederacy probably ordered the rebel flag to be flown. He might or might not have had legislative concurrence.
Is that a violation of the 1st Amendment as well if it was just a spontaneous act?

As it stands now, the last I heard is that the present governor backs taking the flag down as does some of the legislature.
Sorry, but I think the flag is coming down!

 

[JQPublic1]

This morning here in NC a few miles from where I live I took my dog to a confederate monument and let him take a shit on it's base

Come on up here to DC and do the same to the Jefferson Memorial and the Washington Monument, you hypocritical bigot. They owned black people.

But Jefferson and Washington never represented a defeated nation or did they oversee mass killings of blacks and foment lynchings like Nathan B. Forrest did, They probably had indentured WHITE slaves too...

Trying to rationalize hypocrisy, eh?

Not at all. White people were slaves in the colonies too. The softer term is indentured servant. But yes, two of OUR most prominent statesmen were slave owners and that is a fact. Their monuments, though, were constructed under the auspices of the United States of America. There is no hatred tied to them and blacks and whites alike revere those monuments as valid American historical relics, dedicated to the memory of men who contributed something of import to this country. Confederate monuments contributed nothing to the present USA and should never rise to the same standing in the American psyche.

But you just apply your reason selectively. No such reason applies to the confederate flag. Just blanket, closeminded, left wing bigotry.

Left wing bigotry against a "democrat" flag? Does my question show you how ridiculous the right is when denying the conservative shift from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party? Now you are implying that "liberal democrats" are trying to orchestrate the demise of a conservative democrat icon. Tell me Holmes, do you think the local taxpayers who don't want that flag flying over public;y owned property should be forced to endure another 100 years of it?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Burning the flag of an enemy nation which only existed during a war with the USA seems fine with me. Whatever you want to claim about "historical significance" is ridiculous. That flag has been used as a symbol of racial subjugation and racial terrorism since its creation.

It doesn't matter if it's fine with you or not, we have the 1st amendment in this country. The flag is part of our history, and you don't have the right to not be offended. Liberals are some of the most intolerant people in the world and you prove it every time you try to force your will on the rest of society, regardless of what the Constitution says.

Liberals aren't intolerant. The Rebel flag has been flown rebelliously on various public monuments for more than 140 years after the resounding defeat of the Confederacy. That is far too long but "liberls," and other people of good faith, bowed to the sympathies of descendants of a defeated enemy. Their tax dollars spent to support an enemy flag. Speaking fo forcing someone' will on others, I think it is time to stop forcing Americans citizens to have to view that confederate rag every time they visit the capitol.

What is really surprising is that you are so attached to an alleged Democrat relic after all your crying about Democratic plantations and KKK origins. Perhaps , though, it is the pending loss of Southern Democrat Conservatism tied to that flag that really bothers you more than party affiliation.

I don't give a damn about the flag, I give a damn about the 1st amendment and the Constitution. You obviously don't. If the people of that state want the flag to come down, fine. If they don't, you don't have the right to demand it anyway, regardless of what you think it stands for.

Well, I have the right to demand anything I please...That doesn't mean those demands will be honored or addressed.

In this case, the people of South Carolina probably did not have a say in placing the flag on the capitol so why should they have a say in the removal of that flag? Who made the decision to place it there in the first place? I doubt if there was a public referendum where one could vote yea or nay on the matter. I think some past governor with strong ties to the defeated Confederacy probably ordered the rebel flag to be flown. He might or might not have had legislative concurrence.
Is that a violation of the 1st Amendment as well if it was just a spontaneous act?

As it stands now, the last I heard is that the present governor backs taking the flag down as does some of the legislature.
Sorry, but I think the flag is coming down!

Kowtowing to democrat nazi political pressure. Like charging Baltimore cops and George Zimmerman.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Come on up here to DC and do the same to the Jefferson Memorial and the Washington Monument, you hypocritical bigot. They owned black people.

But Jefferson and Washington never represented a defeated nation or did they oversee mass killings of blacks and foment lynchings like Nathan B. Forrest did, They probably had indentured WHITE slaves too...

Trying to rationalize hypocrisy, eh?

Not at all. White people were slaves in the colonies too. The softer term is indentured servant. But yes, two of OUR most prominent statesmen were slave owners and that is a fact. Their monuments, though, were constructed under the auspices of the United States of America. There is no hatred tied to them and blacks and whites alike revere those monuments as valid American historical relics, dedicated to the memory of men who contributed something of import to this country. Confederate monuments contributed nothing to the present USA and should never rise to the same standing in the American psyche.

But you just apply your reason selectively. No such reason applies to the confederate flag. Just blanket, closeminded, left wing bigotry.

Left wing bigotry against a "democrat" flag? Does my question show you how ridiculous the right is when denying the conservative shift from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party? Now you are implying that "liberal democrats" are trying to orchestrate the demise of a conservative democrat icon. Tell me Holmes, do you think the local taxpayers who don't want that flag flying over public;y owned property should be forced to endure another 100 years of it?

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat. That party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.
As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media. I'd rather the people be educated about that flag and what it truly comprehensively represents instead of a bigoted left wing take and then let a decision be made. Democrats just want to force and censor like good nazis.

 

[JQPublic1]

Burning the flag of an enemy nation which only existed during a war with the USA seems fine with me. Whatever you want to claim about "historical significance" is ridiculous. That flag has been used as a symbol of racial subjugation and racial terrorism since its creation.

It doesn't matter if it's fine with you or not, we have the 1st amendment in this country. The flag is part of our history, and you don't have the right to not be offended. Liberals are some of the most intolerant people in the world and you prove it every time you try to force your will on the rest of society, regardless of what the Constitution says.

Liberals aren't intolerant. The Rebel flag has been flown rebelliously on various public monuments for more than 140 years after the resounding defeat of the Confederacy. That is far too long but "liberls," and other people of good faith, bowed to the sympathies of descendants of a defeated enemy. Their tax dollars spent to support an enemy flag. Speaking fo forcing someone' will on others, I think it is time to stop forcing Americans citizens to have to view that confederate rag every time they visit the capitol.

What is really surprising is that you are so attached to an alleged Democrat relic after all your crying about Democratic plantations and KKK origins. Perhaps , though, it is the pending loss of Southern Democrat Conservatism tied to that flag that really bothers you more than party affiliation.

I don't give a damn about the flag, I give a damn about the 1st amendment and the Constitution. You obviously don't. If the people of that state want the flag to come down, fine. If they don't, you don't have the right to demand it anyway, regardless of what you think it stands for.

Well, I have the right to demand anything I please...That doesn't mean those demands will be honored or addressed.

In this case, the people of South Carolina probably did not have a say in placing the flag on the capitol so why should they have a say in the removal of that flag? Who made the decision to place it there in the first place? I doubt if there was a public referendum where one could vote yea or nay on the matter. I think some past governor with strong ties to the defeated Confederacy probably ordered the rebel flag to be flown. He might or might not have had legislative concurrence.
Is that a violation of the 1st Amendment as well if it was just a spontaneous act?

As it stands now, the last I heard is that the present governor backs taking the flag down as does some of the legislature.
Sorry, but I think the flag is coming down!

Kowtowing to democrat nazi political pressure. Like charging Baltimore cops and George Zimmerman.

Do you have any evidence of "kowtowing?" Wild hunches don't count!

Bringing the Baltimore cops and Zimmerman into this reflects your desperation and abject frustration. There is no nexus there at all. I feelll yer pain.., I do!

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It doesn't matter if it's fine with you or not, we have the 1st amendment in this country. The flag is part of our history, and you don't have the right to not be offended. Liberals are some of the most intolerant people in the world and you prove it every time you try to force your will on the rest of society, regardless of what the Constitution says.

Liberals aren't intolerant. The Rebel flag has been flown rebelliously on various public monuments for more than 140 years after the resounding defeat of the Confederacy. That is far too long but "liberls," and other people of good faith, bowed to the sympathies of descendants of a defeated enemy. Their tax dollars spent to support an enemy flag. Speaking fo forcing someone' will on others, I think it is time to stop forcing Americans citizens to have to view that confederate rag every time they visit the capitol.

What is really surprising is that you are so attached to an alleged Democrat relic after all your crying about Democratic plantations and KKK origins. Perhaps , though, it is the pending loss of Southern Democrat Conservatism tied to that flag that really bothers you more than party affiliation.

I don't give a damn about the flag, I give a damn about the 1st amendment and the Constitution. You obviously don't. If the people of that state want the flag to come down, fine. If they don't, you don't have the right to demand it anyway, regardless of what you think it stands for.

Well, I have the right to demand anything I please...That doesn't mean those demands will be honored or addressed.

In this case, the people of South Carolina probably did not have a say in placing the flag on the capitol so why should they have a say in the removal of that flag? Who made the decision to place it there in the first place? I doubt if there was a public referendum where one could vote yea or nay on the matter. I think some past governor with strong ties to the defeated Confederacy probably ordered the rebel flag to be flown. He might or might not have had legislative concurrence.
Is that a violation of the 1st Amendment as well if it was just a spontaneous act?

As it stands now, the last I heard is that the present governor backs taking the flag down as does some of the legislature.
Sorry, but I think the flag is coming down!

Kowtowing to democrat nazi political pressure. Like charging Baltimore cops and George Zimmerman.

Do you have any evidence of "kowtowing?" Wild hunches don't count!

Bringing the Baltimore cops and Zimmerman into this reflects your desperation and abject frustration. There is no nexus there at all. I feelll yer pain.., I do!

150 years of flying the flag is evidence. Just as Zimmerman wasn't charged until after the mob descended this flag wasn't to be removed until this latest mob threatened its wrath. The evidence is obvious.

 

[hipeter924]

 

[JQPublic1]

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat.

I disagree, I am just commenting satirically on flawedRight Wing logic!.

hat party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.

Why did you pick the year 1972 as the year of " hijacking?" I think the conservative democrats abandoned the democrat party well before then.

As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media.

Gee, are you saying that those "biased" blatherers aren't taxpayers expressing their First Amendment rights?

 

[JQPublic1]

Liberals aren't intolerant. The Rebel flag has been flown rebelliously on various public monuments for more than 140 years after the resounding defeat of the Confederacy. That is far too long but "liberls," and other people of good faith, bowed to the sympathies of descendants of a defeated enemy. Their tax dollars spent to support an enemy flag. Speaking fo forcing someone' will on others, I think it is time to stop forcing Americans citizens to have to view that confederate rag every time they visit the capitol.

What is really surprising is that you are so attached to an alleged Democrat relic after all your crying about Democratic plantations and KKK origins. Perhaps , though, it is the pending loss of Southern Democrat Conservatism tied to that flag that really bothers you more than party affiliation.

I don't give a damn about the flag, I give a damn about the 1st amendment and the Constitution. You obviously don't. If the people of that state want the flag to come down, fine. If they don't, you don't have the right to demand it anyway, regardless of what you think it stands for.

Well, I have the right to demand anything I please...That doesn't mean those demands will be honored or addressed.

In this case, the people of South Carolina probably did not have a say in placing the flag on the capitol so why should they have a say in the removal of that flag? Who made the decision to place it there in the first place? I doubt if there was a public referendum where one could vote yea or nay on the matter. I think some past governor with strong ties to the defeated Confederacy probably ordered the rebel flag to be flown. He might or might not have had legislative concurrence.
Is that a violation of the 1st Amendment as well if it was just a spontaneous act?

As it stands now, the last I heard is that the present governor backs taking the flag down as does some of the legislature.
Sorry, but I think the flag is coming down!

Kowtowing to democrat nazi political pressure. Like charging Baltimore cops and George Zimmerman.

Do you have any evidence of "kowtowing?" Wild hunches don't count!

Bringing the Baltimore cops and Zimmerman into this reflects your desperation and abject frustration. There is no nexus there at all. I feelll yer pain.., I do!

150 years of flying the flag is evidence. Just as Zimmerman wasn't charged until after the mob descended this flag wasn't to be removed until this latest mob threatened its wrath. The evidence is obvious.

The difference is Zimmerman got away with murder but this offensive flag is expected to come down! The locals have spoken and their government has responded.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat.

I disagree, I am just commenting satirically on flawedRight Wing logic!.

hat party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.

Why did you pick the year 1972 as the year of " hijacking?" I think the conservative democrats abandoned the democrat party well before then.

As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media.

Gee, are you saying that those "biased" blatherers aren't taxpayers expressing their First Amendment rights?

Southern democrats of 1963 are different from democrats of today and both are fascist in nature. The counterculture which brought down LBJ was hijacked by McGovern to attempt to bring down Nixon. The residual is today's backwards democrats. Stuck in the 1960's.
The blathering media demanding what happens in South Carolina are mostly from places like New York City.

 

[JQPublic1]

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat.

I disagree, I am just commenting satirically on flawedRight Wing logic!.

hat party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.

Why did you pick the year 1972 as the year of " hijacking?" I think the conservative democrats abandoned the democrat party well before then.

As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media.

Gee, are you saying that those "biased" blatherers aren't taxpayers expressing their First Amendment rights?

Southern democrats of 1963 are different from democrats of today and both are fascist in nature. The counterculture which brought down LBJ was hijacked by McGovern to attempt to bring down Nixon. The residual is today's backwards democrats. Stuck in the 1960's.
The blathering media demanding what happens in South Carolina are mostly from places like New York City.

Speaking of blathering, that is exactly what you are doing now...no links, no sources just blather!

 

[rdean]

Confederate Monuments

 

[rdean]

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat.

I disagree, I am just commenting satirically on flawedRight Wing logic!.

hat party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.

Why did you pick the year 1972 as the year of " hijacking?" I think the conservative democrats abandoned the democrat party well before then.

As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media.

Gee, are you saying that those "biased" blatherers aren't taxpayers expressing their First Amendment rights?

Southern democrats of 1963 are different from democrats of today and both are fascist in nature. The counterculture which brought down LBJ was hijacked by McGovern to attempt to bring down Nixon. The residual is today's backwards democrats. Stuck in the 1960's.
The blathering media demanding what happens in South Carolina are mostly from places like New York City.

A coalition party that's Fascist in nature? Really? Oh, these ignorant right wingers. They may abhor education. They may not know anything of value. They may be delusional. But oh, the entertainment value. They never seem to disappoint.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat.

I disagree, I am just commenting satirically on flawedRight Wing logic!.

hat party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.

Why did you pick the year 1972 as the year of " hijacking?" I think the conservative democrats abandoned the democrat party well before then.

As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media.

Gee, are you saying that those "biased" blatherers aren't taxpayers expressing their First Amendment rights?

Southern democrats of 1963 are different from democrats of today and both are fascist in nature. The counterculture which brought down LBJ was hijacked by McGovern to attempt to bring down Nixon. The residual is today's backwards democrats. Stuck in the 1960's.
The blathering media demanding what happens in South Carolina are mostly from places like New York City.

A coalition party that's Fascist in nature? Really? Oh, these ignorant right wingers. They may abhor education. They may not know anything of value. They may be delusional. But oh, the entertainment value. They never seem to disappoint.

What you call a coalition is blind sheeple mob think. Some of us uber-liberals are way beyond that.

 

[S.J.]

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat.

I disagree, I am just commenting satirically on flawedRight Wing logic!.

hat party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.

Why did you pick the year 1972 as the year of " hijacking?" I think the conservative democrats abandoned the democrat party well before then.

As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media.

Gee, are you saying that those "biased" blatherers aren't taxpayers expressing their First Amendment rights?

Southern democrats of 1963 are different from democrats of today and both are fascist in nature. The counterculture which brought down LBJ was hijacked by McGovern to attempt to bring down Nixon. The residual is today's backwards democrats. Stuck in the 1960's.
The blathering media demanding what happens in South Carolina are mostly from places like New York City.

Speaking of blathering, that is exactly what you are doing now...no links, no sources just blather!

Sort of like your claim that the bigots in the Democratic Party switched sides?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat.

I disagree, I am just commenting satirically on flawedRight Wing logic!.

hat party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.

Why did you pick the year 1972 as the year of " hijacking?" I think the conservative democrats abandoned the democrat party well before then.

As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media.

Gee, are you saying that those "biased" blatherers aren't taxpayers expressing their First Amendment rights?

Southern democrats of 1963 are different from democrats of today and both are fascist in nature. The counterculture which brought down LBJ was hijacked by McGovern to attempt to bring down Nixon. The residual is today's backwards democrats. Stuck in the 1960's.
The blathering media demanding what happens in South Carolina are mostly from places like New York City.

Speaking of blathering, that is exactly what you are doing now...no links, no sources just blather!

I speak from memory and experience. You go do a search and learn for yourself if you are that young or that stupid.

 

[rdean]

You selectively and inconsistently and dishonestly infuse the term democrat.

I disagree, I am just commenting satirically on flawedRight Wing logic!.

hat party was hijacked in 1972 and bears little resemblance to the democrat party of 1963 (not that either are a good thing) and you know it.

Why did you pick the year 1972 as the year of " hijacking?" I think the conservative democrats abandoned the democrat party well before then.

As for the local taxpayers, I haven't heard their take on this issue. Just a bunch of biased blather in the media.

Gee, are you saying that those "biased" blatherers aren't taxpayers expressing their First Amendment rights?

Southern democrats of 1963 are different from democrats of today and both are fascist in nature. The counterculture which brought down LBJ was hijacked by McGovern to attempt to bring down Nixon. The residual is today's backwards democrats. Stuck in the 1960's.
The blathering media demanding what happens in South Carolina are mostly from places like New York City.

Speaking of blathering, that is exactly what you are doing now...no links, no sources just blather!

I speak from memory and experience. You go do a search and learn for yourself if you are that young or that stupid.

These right wingers believe Lincoln must have been a confederate conservative.

 

[bodecea]

Burning the flag of an enemy nation which only existed during a war with the USA seems fine with me. Whatever you want to claim about "historical significance" is ridiculous. That flag has been used as a symbol of racial subjugation and racial terrorism since its creation.

It doesn't matter if it's fine with you or not, we have the 1st amendment in this country. The flag is part of our history, and you don't have the right to not be offended. Liberals are some of the most intolerant people in the world and you prove it every time you try to force your will on the rest of society, regardless of what the Constitution says.

Liberals aren't intolerant. The Rebel flag has been flown rebelliously on various public monuments for more than 140 years after the resounding defeat of the Confederacy. That is far too long but "liberls," and other people of good faith, bowed to the sympathies of descendants of a defeated enemy. Their tax dollars spent to support an enemy flag. Speaking fo forcing someone' will on others, I think it is time to stop forcing Americans citizens to have to view that confederate rag every time they visit the capitol.

What is really surprising is that you are so attached to an alleged Democrat relic after all your crying about Democratic plantations and KKK origins. Perhaps , though, it is the pending loss of Southern Democrat Conservatism tied to that flag that really bothers you more than party affiliation.

I don't give a damn about the flag, I give a damn about the 1st amendment and the Constitution. You obviously don't. If the people of that state want the flag to come down, fine. If they don't, you don't have the right to demand it anyway, regardless of what you think it stands for.

Well, I have the right to demand anything I please...That doesn't mean those demands will be honored or addressed.

In this case, the people of South Carolina probably did not have a say in placing the flag on the capitol so why should they have a say in the removal of that flag? Who made the decision to place it there in the first place? I doubt if there was a public referendum where one could vote yea or nay on the matter. I think some past governor with strong ties to the defeated Confederacy probably ordered the rebel flag to be flown. He might or might not have had legislative concurrence.
Is that a violation of the 1st Amendment as well if it was just a spontaneous act?

As it stands now, the last I heard is that the present governor backs taking the flag down as does some of the legislature.
Sorry, but I think the flag is coming down!

Kowtowing to democrat nazi political pressure. Like charging Baltimore cops and George Zimmerman.

Dear me...care for a tissue to catch all those tears?

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

We need segregation immediately.

I agree. Buy a cabin in the woods with no internet or phone. Go live in it. Never come back.

We just can't coexist with blacks. What I see in the pictures is a bunch of young idiots too stupid to realise that they're cheering on blacks who'd like to tear down everything White, including them.

Confederate flags are burned in South Carolina after Charleston shootings Daily Mail Online

You must be Dylan Roof's buddy.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

We need segregation immediately. We just can't coexist with blacks. What I see in the pictures is a bunch of young idiots too stupid to realise that they're cheering on blacks who'd like to tear down everything White, including them.

Confederate flags are burned in South Carolina after Charleston shootings Daily Mail Online

Feel free to segregate yourself from the civilized people who see the confederate flag as the symbol that you racists have created. Fine the perpetrators of the graffiti and move on.

The Confederate flag represents beautiful southern heritage good ole Christian family values.

The Confederate Flag represents a nation founded on the notion that not all men are created equal - in other words, the opposite of what the U.S. was founded on. If you hate America so much you should leave.