Conservatives waking up to climate change

[PMZ]

And what have YOU offered?

The entire story. Theories, real word data, experimental data, modeling. The opinion of the IPCC, up to the dynamics of the earth systems transition from energy balance, through energy imbalance, back to balance again at an increased temperature, fully represents the scientific consensus of the world. Understanding the dynamics fully will be years coming.

The opinion of the IPCC? You mean THIS IPCC?

Latest IPCC Scandal: Exaggerated Sea Level Claims | Heartlander Magazine

Heartlander Magazine? Really? The Koch brothers out to destroy the country for personal profit.

You are unable to distinguish between propaganda and science.

 

[S.J.]

Heartlander Magazine?!?!


HAAAAAHAAHAAA Ha ha ha haaaaaa

Yeah, attack the source. Are you saying the IPCC didn't exaggerate claims or hide evidence that did not support their claims?

 

[flacaltenn]

Heartlander Magazine?!?!


HAAAAAHAAHAAA Ha ha ha haaaaaa

President of the United States?!?!

HAAAAAHAAHAAA Ha ha ha haaaaaa

See how easy that is????? At least when it comes to credibility on Climate Change..

 

[PMZ]

The entire story. Theories, real word data, experimental data, modeling. The opinion of the IPCC, up to the dynamics of the earth systems transition from energy balance, through energy imbalance, back to balance again at an increased temperature, fully represents the scientific consensus of the world. Understanding the dynamics fully will be years coming.

The opinion of the IPCC? You mean THIS IPCC?

Latest IPCC Scandal: Exaggerated Sea Level Claims | Heartlander Magazine

Heartlander Magazine? Really? The Koch brothers out to destroy the country for personal profit.

You are unable to distinguish between propaganda and science.

Heartlander Magazine?!?!


HAAAAAHAAHAAA Ha ha ha haaaaaa

Yeah, attack the source. Are you saying the IPCC didn't exaggerate claims or hide evidence that did not support their claims?

When the source is that uncredible it needs to be rejected by everyone,all of the time. Dittoheads come from those who can't distinguish credible sources from propaganda.

The IPCC story has unfolded as the science has progressed. At one time there was a chance that you could have turned out correct but we're way beyond that now. Now your only means to defend what's turned out to be wrong is through political cheap tricks.

 

[S.J.]

The opinion of the IPCC? You mean THIS IPCC?

Latest IPCC Scandal: Exaggerated Sea Level Claims | Heartlander Magazine

Heartlander Magazine? Really? The Koch brothers out to destroy the country for personal profit.

You are unable to distinguish between propaganda and science.

Heartlander Magazine?!?!


HAAAAAHAAHAAA Ha ha ha haaaaaa

Yeah, attack the source. Are you saying the IPCC didn't exaggerate claims or hide evidence that did not support their claims?

When the source is that uncredible it needs to be rejected by everyone,all of the time. Dittoheads come from those who can't distinguish credible sources from propaganda.

The IPCC story has unfolded as the science has progressed. At one time there was a chance that you could have turned out correct but we're way beyond that now. Now your only means to defend what's turned out to be wrong is through political cheap tricks.

You didn't answer my question. Instead, you continued your attack on the source. It wouldn't matter WHAT source I provide, you have no defense of the IPCC's lies, so you will ignore the facts of Climategate. You guys are frauds.

James Delingpole: Climategate 2.0 - WSJ.com

 

[PMZ]

Heartlander Magazine? Really? The Koch brothers out to destroy the country for personal profit.

You are unable to distinguish between propaganda and science.

Yeah, attack the source. Are you saying the IPCC didn't exaggerate claims or hide evidence that did not support their claims?

When the source is that uncredible it needs to be rejected by everyone,all of the time. Dittoheads come from those who can't distinguish credible sources from propaganda.

The IPCC story has unfolded as the science has progressed. At one time there was a chance that you could have turned out correct but we're way beyond that now. Now your only means to defend what's turned out to be wrong is through political cheap tricks.

You didn't answer my question. Instead, you continued your attack on the source. It wouldn't matter WHAT source I provide, you have no defense of the IPCC's lies, so you will ignore the facts of Climategate. You guys are frauds.

James Delingpole: Climategate 2.0 - WSJ.com

The IPCC hasn't lied. Your uncredible propaganda sources have spun different private conversations to create the illusion that what profits them could be true. There is no evidence that AGW does not exist. There is simply no way that the current conditions could be explained any other way.

When there's no evidence, conspiracy theory is the only way to sell lies. And some people are really easy to fool.

 

[S.J.]

When the source is that uncredible it needs to be rejected by everyone,all of the time. Dittoheads come from those who can't distinguish credible sources from propaganda.

The IPCC story has unfolded as the science has progressed. At one time there was a chance that you could have turned out correct but we're way beyond that now. Now your only means to defend what's turned out to be wrong is through political cheap tricks.

You didn't answer my question. Instead, you continued your attack on the source. It wouldn't matter WHAT source I provide, you have no defense of the IPCC's lies, so you will ignore the facts of Climategate. You guys are frauds.

James Delingpole: Climategate 2.0 - WSJ.com

The IPCC hasn't lied. Your uncredible propaganda sources have spun different private conversations to create the illusion that what profits them could be true. There is no evidence that AGW does not exist. There is simply no way that the current conditions could be explained any other way.

When there's no evidence, conspiracy theory is the only way to sell lies. And some people are really easy to fool.

Yeah, the WSJ, one of the most credible and reputable news sources in the world is making the whole thing up, right? You have no defense and you have no credibility. If the information in the WSJ was false, they would be sued by the IPCC. Why haven't they been?

 

[westwall]

When the source is that uncredible it needs to be rejected by everyone,all of the time. Dittoheads come from those who can't distinguish credible sources from propaganda.

The IPCC story has unfolded as the science has progressed. At one time there was a chance that you could have turned out correct but we're way beyond that now. Now your only means to defend what's turned out to be wrong is through political cheap tricks.

You didn't answer my question. Instead, you continued your attack on the source. It wouldn't matter WHAT source I provide, you have no defense of the IPCC's lies, so you will ignore the facts of Climategate. You guys are frauds.

James Delingpole: Climategate 2.0 - WSJ.com

The IPCC hasn't lied. Your uncredible propaganda sources have spun different private conversations to create the illusion that what profits them could be true. There is no evidence that AGW does not exist. There is simply no way that the current conditions could be explained any other way.

When there's no evidence, conspiracy theory is the only way to sell lies. And some people are really easy to fool.

Yes. It has been shown that you clowns have no clue what you're talking about and, more to the point, neither do the fraudsters... Case in point. Here is the latest NASA Arctic ice report...

Please note where they claim the trend is inexorably downward but then admit that the sea ice extent is 1.5 MILLION sq. km ABOVE last year. That is called propaganda, that is where they are telling you one thing...which you mindless drones infallibly accept, but the reality is far, far different...


See how that works?

Nope. I didn't think you would...


Arctic Sea Ice Update: Unlikely To Break Records, But Continuing Downward Trend

Aug. 23, 2013

"The melting of sea ice in the Arctic is well on its way toward its annual "minimum," that time when the floating ice cap covers less of the Arctic Ocean than at any other period during the year. While the ice will continue to shrink until around mid-September, it is unlikely that this year’s summer low will break a new record. Still, this year’s melt rates are in line with the sustained decline of the Arctic ice cover observed by NASA and other satellites over the last several decades.

“Even if this year ends up being the sixth- or seventh-lowest extent, what matters is that the 10 lowest extents recorded have happened during the last 10 years,” said Walt Meier, a glaciologist with NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md. “The long-term trend is strongly downward.”

The icy cover of the Arctic Ocean was measured at 2.25 million square miles (5.83 million square kilometers) on Aug. 21. For comparison, the smallest Arctic sea ice extent on record for this date, recorded in 2012, was 1.67 million square miles (4.34 million square kilometers), and the largest recorded for this date was in 1996, when ice covered 3.16 millions square miles (8.2 million square kilometers) of the Arctic Ocean."



Arctic Sea Ice Update: Unlikely To Break Records, But Continuing Downward Trend | NASA

 

[PMZ]

You didn't answer my question. Instead, you continued your attack on the source. It wouldn't matter WHAT source I provide, you have no defense of the IPCC's lies, so you will ignore the facts of Climategate. You guys are frauds.

James Delingpole: Climategate 2.0 - WSJ.com

The IPCC hasn't lied. Your uncredible propaganda sources have spun different private conversations to create the illusion that what profits them could be true. There is no evidence that AGW does not exist. There is simply no way that the current conditions could be explained any other way.

When there's no evidence, conspiracy theory is the only way to sell lies. And some people are really easy to fool.

Yeah, the WSJ, one of the most credible and reputable news sources in the world is making the whole thing up, right? You have no defense and you have no credibility. If the information in the WSJ was false, they would be sued by the IPCC. Why haven't they been?

The WSJ is a financial enterprise owned by Rupert Murdock, owner of Fox News. It's political purpose is to report that whatever Fox News says is true. Fox New's purpose is to recruit those easy to lead to support the Republican Party. All for profit. Suckers like you lap the whole package up because they lie to you telling you that you're smart and patriotic while, in fact, their goal is to recreate the business plutocracy as envisioned by the founders but rejected by we, the people.

The IPCC is a global team of scientists dedicated to finding and publishing the truth as it can be ascertained by science.

They are enigmatic to Republican profits.

Business serves we, the people, not vice versa. They thought that buying minds through entertainment media would allow them to buy the country. They and you have been sent politically packing and the country returned to the responsible.

You might as well get used to it because it's irreversible.

 

[S.J.]

I just love talking to zombies. lol

 

[westwall]

The IPCC hasn't lied. Your uncredible propaganda sources have spun different private conversations to create the illusion that what profits them could be true. There is no evidence that AGW does not exist. There is simply no way that the current conditions could be explained any other way.

When there's no evidence, conspiracy theory is the only way to sell lies. And some people are really easy to fool.

Yeah, the WSJ, one of the most credible and reputable news sources in the world is making the whole thing up, right? You have no defense and you have no credibility. If the information in the WSJ was false, they would be sued by the IPCC. Why haven't they been?

The WSJ is a financial enterprise owned by Rupert Murdock, owner of Fox News. It's political purpose is to report that whatever Fox News says is true. Fox New's purpose is to recruit those easy to lead to support the Republican Party. All for profit. Suckers like you lap the whole package up because they lie to you telling you that you're smart and patriotic while, in fact, their goal is to recreate the business plutocracy as envisioned by the founders but rejected by we, the people.

The IPCC is a global team of scientists dedicated to finding and publishing the truth as it can be ascertained by science.

They are enigmatic to Republican profits.

Business serves we, the people, not vice versa. They thought that buying minds through entertainment media would allow them to buy the country. They and you have been sent politically packing and the country returned to the responsible.

You might as well get used to it because it's irreversible.

No they're not. They are merely another arm of the UN who's goal is to steal money from the First world nations and give it to tin pot Third World dictators....

Get a clue fool....

Eric Holder Promotes UN Redistribution Of Wealth To “Fight Terrorism”


Eric Holder Promotes UN Redistribution of Wealth to ?Fight Terrorism?



(OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL):" First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."

«Klimapolitik verteilt das Weltvermögen neu»: Klimaschutz hat mit Umweltschutz kaum mehr etwas zu tun, sagt der Ökonom Ottmar Edenhofer. Der nächste Weltklimagipfel in Cancún sei eigentlich ein Wirtschaftsgipfel, bei dem es um die Verteilung der Ress

 

[PMZ]

Yeah, the WSJ, one of the most credible and reputable news sources in the world is making the whole thing up, right? You have no defense and you have no credibility. If the information in the WSJ was false, they would be sued by the IPCC. Why haven't they been?

The WSJ is a financial enterprise owned by Rupert Murdock, owner of Fox News. It's political purpose is to report that whatever Fox News says is true. Fox New's purpose is to recruit those easy to lead to support the Republican Party. All for profit. Suckers like you lap the whole package up because they lie to you telling you that you're smart and patriotic while, in fact, their goal is to recreate the business plutocracy as envisioned by the founders but rejected by we, the people.

The IPCC is a global team of scientists dedicated to finding and publishing the truth as it can be ascertained by science.

They are enigmatic to Republican profits.

Business serves we, the people, not vice versa. They thought that buying minds through entertainment media would allow them to buy the country. They and you have been sent politically packing and the country returned to the responsible.

You might as well get used to it because it's irreversible.

No they're not. They are merely another arm of the UN who's goal is to steal money from the First world nations and give it to tin pot Third World dictators....

Get a clue fool....

Eric Holder Promotes UN Redistribution Of Wealth To “Fight Terrorism”


Eric Holder Promotes UN Redistribution of Wealth to ?Fight Terrorism?



(OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL):" First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."

«Klimapolitik verteilt das Weltvermögen neu»: Klimaschutz hat mit Umweltschutz kaum mehr etwas zu tun, sagt der Ökonom Ottmar Edenhofer. Der nächste Weltklimagipfel in Cancún sei eigentlich ein Wirtschaftsgipfel, bei dem es um die Verteilung der Ress

''First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community.''

We have enjoyed the benefits of the free energy bequeathed to all people by the Carboniferous Period. You want those who haven't benefited to pay the bills due for our dumping of our waste in everyone's atmosphere. So that you can afford to buy a bigger gas waster than your neighbors.

I'm sure that I speak for a majority of the people in the world in rejecting that theivery.

 

[mamooth]

I just love talking to zombies. lol

Once you quoted Delingpole, you revealed yourself as such. You know, a brainless political zombie, incapable of independent thought, just endlessly groaning out political mantras.

Seriously, Delingpole? The man who is possibly the world's whiniest little pissant? That's who you rely on for info now? Denialism is in worse shape than anyone imagined. Even Loopy Lord Monckton is more sensible than Delingpole.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I just love talking to zombies. lol

Once you quoted Delingpole, you revealed yourself as such. You know, a brainless political zombie, incapable of independent thought, just endlessly groaning out political mantras.

Seriously, Delingpole? The man who is possible the world's whiniest little pissant? That's who you rely on for info now? Denialism is in worse shape than anyone imagined. Even Loopy Lord Monckton is more sensible than Delingpole.

Irony from the "we don't need science, we have consensus" crowd

 

[S.J.]

I just love talking to zombies. lol

Once you quoted Delingpole, you revealed yourself as such. You know, a brainless political zombie, incapable of independent thought, just endlessly groaning out political mantras.

Seriously, Delingpole? The man who is possible the world's whiniest little pissant? That's who you rely on for info now? Denialism is in worse shape than anyone imagined. Even Loopy Lord Monckton is more sensible than Delingpole.

Blah, blah, blah, same old bullshit, no substance. The denialists are the ones like you, who deny the fraud perpetrated by the IPCC, which has been proven.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

To demonstrate a link between cancer and smoking, countless lab mice were exposed to countless cigarettes; to demonstrate the link between CO2 and warming... ahh fuck it

 

[PMZ]

I just love talking to zombies. lol

Once you quoted Delingpole, you revealed yourself as such. You know, a brainless political zombie, incapable of independent thought, just endlessly groaning out political mantras.

Seriously, Delingpole? The man who is possible the world's whiniest little pissant? That's who you rely on for info now? Denialism is in worse shape than anyone imagined. Even Loopy Lord Monckton is more sensible than Delingpole.

Blah, blah, blah, same old bullshit, no substance. The denialists are the ones like you, who deny the fraud perpetrated by the IPCC, which has been proven.

Nice of you to demonstrate what a post void of substance looks like.

 

[S.J.]

Once you quoted Delingpole, you revealed yourself as such. You know, a brainless political zombie, incapable of independent thought, just endlessly groaning out political mantras.

Seriously, Delingpole? The man who is possible the world's whiniest little pissant? That's who you rely on for info now? Denialism is in worse shape than anyone imagined. Even Loopy Lord Monckton is more sensible than Delingpole.

Blah, blah, blah, same old bullshit, no substance. The denialists are the ones like you, who deny the fraud perpetrated by the IPCC, which has been proven.

Nice of you to demonstrate what a post void of substance looks like.

I gave you substance but you won't address it. IPCC scandal. Prove me wrong.

 

[westwall]

The WSJ is a financial enterprise owned by Rupert Murdock, owner of Fox News. It's political purpose is to report that whatever Fox News says is true. Fox New's purpose is to recruit those easy to lead to support the Republican Party. All for profit. Suckers like you lap the whole package up because they lie to you telling you that you're smart and patriotic while, in fact, their goal is to recreate the business plutocracy as envisioned by the founders but rejected by we, the people.

The IPCC is a global team of scientists dedicated to finding and publishing the truth as it can be ascertained by science.

They are enigmatic to Republican profits.

Business serves we, the people, not vice versa. They thought that buying minds through entertainment media would allow them to buy the country. They and you have been sent politically packing and the country returned to the responsible.

You might as well get used to it because it's irreversible.

No they're not. They are merely another arm of the UN who's goal is to steal money from the First world nations and give it to tin pot Third World dictators....

Get a clue fool....

Eric Holder Promotes UN Redistribution Of Wealth To “Fight Terrorism”


Eric Holder Promotes UN Redistribution of Wealth to ?Fight Terrorism?



(OTTMAR EDENHOFER, UN IPCC OFFICIAL):" First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community. But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world's wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole."

«Klimapolitik verteilt das Weltvermögen neu»: Klimaschutz hat mit Umweltschutz kaum mehr etwas zu tun, sagt der Ökonom Ottmar Edenhofer. Der nächste Weltklimagipfel in Cancún sei eigentlich ein Wirtschaftsgipfel, bei dem es um die Verteilung der Ress

''First of all, developed countries have basically expropriated the atmosphere of the world community.''

We have enjoyed the benefits of the free energy bequeathed to all people by the Carboniferous Period. You want those who haven't benefited to pay the bills due for our dumping of our waste in everyone's atmosphere. So that you can afford to buy a bigger gas waster than your neighbors.

I'm sure that I speak for a majority of the people in the world in rejecting that theivery.

Nice to see you admit it. Well done...first comes the realization you have a problem, then you can begin to work on a cure. The cure of course is to no longer support third world tyrants and remove them from power so that the people can finally generate enough wealth to join the first world club on their own. Then less resources are used and everyone prospers.

Just what you DON'T want to happen. Nope you want there to be a slave class and the ruling elite which you think you are a part of. Here's a clue....you're not. You're just yet another in a very long line of useful idiots who can be counted on to round up the "un desirables" and place them in the camps.

Then, when you are no longer useful you too get to go to the camps like the rest of the capo's....

I notice you avoided my other post...I wonder why?

 

[mamooth]

S.J., when did you learn to adore Delingpole? Maybe on one of his Alex Jones appearances?

Perhaps it was this post, where he implied that anyone accepting AGW theory should be shot.

'Climate Change': there just aren't enough bullets ? Telegraph Blogs

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Always remember this: the Warmist faith so fervently held and promulgated by the Met Office is exactly the same faith so passionately, unswervingly followed by David Cameron, Chris Huhne, Greg Barker, the Coalition's energy spokesman in the Lords Lord Marland, and all but five members of the last parliament. And also by the BBC, the Prince of Wales, almost every national newspaper, the European Union, the Royal Society, the New York Times, CNBC, the Obama administration, the Australian and New Zealand governments, your children's schools, our major universities, our minor universities, the University of East Anglia, your local council….

Truly there just aren't enough bullets!
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Do you agree with your hero Delingpole that all those groups should be killed?

Frank, don't you be shy either. Do you also agree with the great and wise Delingpole that anyone accepting AGW theory should be shot?