Constitutional Conservatives Support Open Borders

Slavery is never mentioned in the Constitution, even though it is clearly there. The census requirement does not mention slaves although that is clearly whom they have in mind. It is a basic principle of the Constitution so your objection is unfounded.


So slavery is "clearly"(though not written) in the Constitution, yet the ability to limit immigration(which is written in the Constitution) is not.

Thats some logic you ave going on there.

Mark
Please quote the passage that allows the federal government the ability to limit immigration.

Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


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It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


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So slavery is "clearly"(though not written) in the Constitution, yet the ability to limit immigration(which is written in the Constitution) is not.

Thats some logic you ave going on there.

Mark
Please quote the passage that allows the federal government the ability to limit immigration.

Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

You didn't really just say that, right?...LMAO!!!


You didn't really just say that, right?...LMAO!!!

Stupid retard

Search and find out if James Madison and Thomas Jefferson believed that "naturalization" and "immigration" were the same thing.

have some pride, use your fucking brain for a change


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Where do you people come up with this shit?...lol!

"im·mi·gra·tion
ˌiməˈɡrāSH(ə)n/
noun
  1. the action of coming to live permanently in a foreign country."
"nat·u·ral·ize
ˈnaCH(ə)rəˌlīz/
verb
past tense: naturalized; past participle: naturalized
  1. 1.
    admit (a foreigner) to the citizenship of a country."
 
So slavery is "clearly"(though not written) in the Constitution, yet the ability to limit immigration(which is written in the Constitution) is not.

Thats some logic you ave going on there.

Mark
Please quote the passage that allows the federal government the ability to limit immigration.

Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


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There's nothing in The Constitution that prohibits the government from passing laws limiting, or even prohibiting immigration.
 
Please quote the passage that allows the federal government the ability to limit immigration.

Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

You didn't really just say that, right?...LMAO!!!


You didn't really just say that, right?...LMAO!!!

Stupid retard

Search and find out if James Madison and Thomas Jefferson believed that "naturalization" and "immigration" were the same thing.

have some pride, use your fucking brain for a change


.

Where do you people come up with this shit?...lol!

"im·mi·gra·tion
ˌiməˈɡrāSH(ə)n/
noun
  1. the action of coming to live permanently in a foreign country."
"nat·u·ral·ize
ˈnaCH(ə)rəˌlīz/
verb
past tense: naturalized; past participle: naturalized
  1. 1.
    admit (a foreigner) to the citizenship of a country."


Stupid ignorant piece of shit

4. _Resolved_, That alien friends are under the jurisdiction and protection of the laws of the State wherein they are: that no power over them has been delegated to the United States, nor prohibited to the individual States, distinct from their power over citizens. And it being true as a general principle, and one of the amendments to the Constitution having also declared, that "the powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people," the act of the Congress of the United States, passed on the -- day of July, 1798, intituled "An Act concerning aliens," which assumes powers over alien friends, not delegated by the Constitution, is not law, but is altogether void, and of no force."


Thomas Jefferson
 
Please quote the passage that allows the federal government the ability to limit immigration.

Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


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There's nothing in The Constitution that prohibits the government from passing laws limiting, or even prohibiting immigration.


You are not referring to the US Constitution (1787) you are referring to KKK bylaws.


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So slavery is "clearly"(though not written) in the Constitution, yet the ability to limit immigration(which is written in the Constitution) is not.

Thats some logic you ave going on there.

Mark
Please quote the passage that allows the federal government the ability to limit immigration.

Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


.

Actually the early laws only delta with naturalization, not immigration. Some States passed some immigration laws after the civil war, but SCOTUS said immigration was the authority of the feds.

History of laws concerning immigration and naturalization in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Please quote the passage that allows the federal government the ability to limit immigration.

Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


.

Actually the early laws only delta with naturalization, not immigration. Some States passed some immigration laws after the civil war, but SCOTUS said immigration was the authority of the feds.

History of laws concerning immigration and naturalization in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


SCOTUS has NO authority to amend the Constitution.

The ONLY reason SCOTUS ruled that way was to stick it to the Chinese.

The ONLY reason you would accept SCOTUS ruling is because it conforms with your racist views.


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Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


.

Actually the early laws only delta with naturalization, not immigration. Some States passed some immigration laws after the civil war, but SCOTUS said immigration was the authority of the feds.

History of laws concerning immigration and naturalization in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


SCOTUS has NO authority to amend the Constitution.

The ONLY reason SCOTUS ruled that way was to stick it to the Chinese.

The ONLY reason you would accept SCOTUS ruling is because it conforms with your racist views.


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They didn't, laws concerning naturalization belonged to congress form day 1, migration after 1808. it's that simple.
 
Article 1, Section 8,

"To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization..."


He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


.

There's nothing in The Constitution that prohibits the government from passing laws limiting, or even prohibiting immigration.


You are not referring to the US Constitution (1787) you are referring to KKK bylaws.


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I'm referring to Article 1, where there is nothing prohibiting Congress from passing laws regulating immigration.
 
He is NOT talking about naturalization he is talking about IMMIGRATION

Immigration matters remain within each state jurisdiction. In 1787 the states were SOVEREIGN.


.

It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


.

There's nothing in The Constitution that prohibits the government from passing laws limiting, or even prohibiting immigration.


You are not referring to the US Constitution (1787) you are referring to KKK bylaws.


.

I'm referring to Article 1, where there is nothing prohibiting Congress from passing laws regulating immigration.
No you dont get it. The Constitution grants powers to Congress, period. If the power isnt granted, they dont have it. And there is nowhere that immigration is a power of the government.
 
It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


.

There's nothing in The Constitution that prohibits the government from passing laws limiting, or even prohibiting immigration.


You are not referring to the US Constitution (1787) you are referring to KKK bylaws.


.

I'm referring to Article 1, where there is nothing prohibiting Congress from passing laws regulating immigration.
No you dont get it. The Constitution grants powers to Congress, period. If the power isnt granted, they dont have it. And there is nowhere that immigration is a power of the government.

Implied powers are a reality in the Constitution, like it or not.
 
It remained in States hands only till 1808. Article 1, Section 9, Clause 1


Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


.

There's nothing in The Constitution that prohibits the government from passing laws limiting, or even prohibiting immigration.


You are not referring to the US Constitution (1787) you are referring to KKK bylaws.


.

I'm referring to Article 1, where there is nothing prohibiting Congress from passing laws regulating immigration.
No you dont get it. The Constitution grants powers to Congress, period. If the power isnt granted, they dont have it. And there is nowhere that immigration is a power of the government.

Just because some freak of nature like you believes it to be true, doesn't make it true.

We are a sovereign state and congress proved that way back in 1812 when the British showed up to wage war with us.
 
Congress enacted an immigration Law which expired in 1800 after Madison and Jefferson objected.

There was NO immigration Law until the 1890's when the SCOTUS concluded that the Chinese presence in our midst constituted an emergency.


.

There's nothing in The Constitution that prohibits the government from passing laws limiting, or even prohibiting immigration.


You are not referring to the US Constitution (1787) you are referring to KKK bylaws.


.

I'm referring to Article 1, where there is nothing prohibiting Congress from passing laws regulating immigration.
No you dont get it. The Constitution grants powers to Congress, period. If the power isnt granted, they dont have it. And there is nowhere that immigration is a power of the government.

Just because some freak of nature like you believes it to be true, doesn't make it true.

We are a sovereign state and congress proved that way back in 1812 when the British showed up to wage war with us.
I see we have another PhD candidate with us.
OK, please point to the exact language in the Constitution that authorizes immigration law. It isnt about naturalization, which is conferring citizenship. Plenty of people immigrate but never become citizens. So wher does Congress' authority to regulate here come from?
 
Anyone styling himself a constitutional conservative must support open borders. Those who do not are merely statists as the fed.gov has no power to regulate borders.

I've been saying that you're nothing but a Democrat. Thanks for showing it once again.



HUH?

WTF

Are you saying that only democrats support the Constitution (1787)?

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Anyone styling himself a constitutional conservative must support open borders. Those who do not are merely statists as the fed.gov has no power to regulate borders.

I've been saying that you're nothing but a Democrat. Thanks for showing it once again.



HUH?

WTF

Are you saying that only democrats support the Constitution (1787)?

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Cheap come on. If you make a real case for something, I shall consider a response.
 
Sorry, can someone catch me up really quickly? I have ignored the thread because I thought the topic was stupid. How are Constitutional Conservatives somehow for Open Borders when our Founding Fathers placed defending this nation and our sovereignty in the Constitution?

What...special person...believes our Founding Fathers fought a war to create this nation only to allow anyone who wanted to march in and start seizing it for their own against our nation's laws and established sovereignty?

I'm sure there is a reasonable, logical explanation.
 

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