Constitutional Conservatives Support Open Borders

[Contumacious]

So your argument is that because the fedgov oversteps its Constututional boundaries in some places we should allow it to do so here as well because it's something we all like?
Yeah, that's a failure.
Congress has no power over immigration and the sooner people understand that and rein in big government the better.

No, that's not my argument at all. Congress is not overstepping it's Constitutional boundaries when it regulates immigration (aka: naturalization). In fact, it's one of the enumerated few things government has the authority TO do. I'm all for reigning in big government, this is not where you start. It's like trying to fix Kaitlyn Jenner by complaining about his toenail polish!

HUH

WTF

Naturalization is NOT immigration.


Where the fuck do you stupid fucks get your ideas.?

.Naturalization is the process by which an individual becomes a US Citizen


Immigration - an individual from a foreign relocates to one of the states - he/she is free to ask the particular state for citizenship. State citizenship is NOT US Citizenship. For example , an individual may have all the rights NY may confer but that does not mean that he has the same rights in NJ . Nor does he have US Citizenship rights.


.See the numerous links previously posted.


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And yet the 14th Amendment changed all that. You keep claiming things from prior to 1868 and you keep referring to the Dred Scott case. You seem to be the stupid fuck in this scenario. Go back to elementary school and learn basic US history.

Cum swallower

show me one single case in which SCOTUS has held that immigration = naturalization and the states waived the right to control immigration when the 14A was adopted,

Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeendejo.

Read fucking Boyd v. Nebraska ex Rel. Thayer 143 U.S. 135 (1892)
This very link was posted either by you or the rabbi.

I get you two stupid fuckers mixed up.

The EVIDENCE before you shows that Thomas Jefferson opposed the 1798 federal immigration Act - that it was allowed to expire in 1800 and we had no immigration law for over 90 years


In Boyd v. Nebraska ex Rel. Thayer 143 U.S. 135 (1892) the SCOTUS disxcusse Historical Facts which showes that the states RETAINED the right to control immigration within their borders

And now tell me , HOW did scumbag Lincoln get the southern states to approve the so-called 14A?


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[Liquid Reigns]

The EVIDENCE before you shows that Thomas Jefferson opposed the 1798 federal immigration Act - that it was allowed to expire in 1800 and we had no immigration law for over 90 years


In Boyd v. Nebraska ex Rel. Thayer 143 U.S. 135 (1892) the SCOTUS disxcusse Historical Facts which showes that the states RETAINED the right to control immigration within their borders

And now tell me , HOW did scumbag Lincoln get the southern states to approve the so-called 14A?


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Who gives a shit about what Jefferson opposed or wanted, his opinions are irrelevant after the USC was drafted and signed.

3 of the 4 parts to the Alien and Sedition Acts were allowed to expire, not all 4. SMFH The 4th one is still in effect to this day which allows for deportation. Besides that the Nation has an inherent right to deny entry to whom they choose, been that way since the founding of the colonies.

Boyd doesn't show any such thing you fucking idiot, you are doing nothing more than quoting the portion of Boyd that refers to the Dred Scott case and then you stop, when the very next paragraph states that the 14th Amendment nullified the States ability by granting "freemen" citizenship in the US, removing the States ability to admit or deny citizenship to whom they choose, where prior to the 14th Dred Scott was only allowed to be a citizen of a State provided that state would admit him.

So your entire argument, and that of your ignorant twin the rabbi, rests on the fact that you claim the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were never ratified. You're both ignorant racist dumb fucks. SMFH

Had they not been ratified, it would have been an issue immediately, it wasn't until 1953 when the Tulane law professor, Walter J. Suthon, Jr. theory came out that they were never ratified. The claim is a racist claim and looks to make African Americans "freemen" once again with no right to citizenship and to once again place segregation in the populace and creating second class citizens. watfuknmorons

 

[Contumacious]

The EVIDENCE before you shows that Thomas Jefferson opposed the 1798 federal immigration Act - that it was allowed to expire in 1800 and we had no immigration law for over 90 years


In Boyd v. Nebraska ex Rel. Thayer 143 U.S. 135 (1892) the SCOTUS disxcusse Historical Facts which showes that the states RETAINED the right to control immigration within their borders

And now tell me , HOW did scumbag Lincoln get the southern states to approve the so-called 14A?


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Who gives a shit about what Jefferson opposed or wanted, his opinions are irrelevant after the USC was drafted and signed.

3 of the 4 parts to the Alien and Sedition Acts were allowed to expire, not all 4. SMFH The 4th one is still in effect to this day which allows for deportation. Besides that the Nation has an inherent right to deny entry to whom they choose, been that way since the founding of the colonies.

Boyd doesn't show any such thing you fucking idiot, you are doing nothing more than quoting the portion of Boyd that refers to the Dred Scott case and then you stop, when the very next paragraph states that the 14th Amendment nullified the States ability by granting "freemen" citizenship in the US, removing the States ability to admit or deny citizenship to whom they choose, where prior to the 14th Dred Scott was only allowed to be a citizen of a State provided that state would admit him.

So your entire argument, and that of your ignorant twin the rabbi, rests on the fact that you claim the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments were never ratified. You're both ignorant racist dumb fucks. SMFH

Had they not been ratified, it would have been an issue immediately, it wasn't until 1953 when the Tulane law professor, Walter J. Suthon, Jr. theory came out that they were never ratified. The claim is a racist claim and looks to make African Americans "freemen" once again with no right to citizenship and to once again place segregation in the populace and creating second class citizens. watfuknmorons

3 of the 4 parts to the Alien and Sedition Acts were allowed to expire, not all 4. SMFH The 4th one is still in effect to this day which allows for deportation. Besides that the Nation has an inherent right to deny entry to whom they choose, been that way since the founding of the colonies.

LINK you stupid fuck

And the fact that you state that you find Thomas Jefferson objection irrelevant tells me that you are a socialist motherfucker who believes that government policies are supreme .

Why didn't you stay home in Venezuela and fellate Maduro.

'nuff said

 

[The Rabbi]

That is rich coming from you, the least informed poster here.
The truth is there is no authorization for Congress to regulate immigration, explicit or implied. But Big Government types don't mind beating up on immigrants. Rights for me but not for thee!

Immigrants have rights, they are simply limited, they also have protections, again limited. You seem to be more least informed than everybody else in this thread, however Constapation grunts a second place right behind you.

Idiot.
Immigrants have exactly the same rights as American citizens, except the right to vote. And California is erasing that distinction too.
That isnt the issue. The issue is so-called conservatives become raging fascists whenever immigrants come up, demanding controls and intrusion on them they would never tolerate for citizens. But citizenship is an artificial construct. Not that you understand what that means.

No, they certain don't have the same rights as American citizens. They don't have the right to be here, for one thing.

Enough sasid.

Immigrants don't have the right to be here?
Arrest these men!

 

[Liquid Reigns]

LINK you stupid fuck

And the fact that you state that you find Thomas Jefferson objection irrelevant tells me that you are a socialist motherfucker who believes that government policies are supreme .

Why didn't you stay home in Venezuela and fellate Maduro.

'nuff said

A link to the Alien and Sedition Act? Are you so fucking stupid you can't use google? Alien and Sedition Acts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The acts were denounced by Democratic-Republicans and ultimately helped them to victory in the 1800 election, when Thomas Jefferson defeated the incumbent President Adams. The Sedition Act and the Alien Friends Act were allowed to expire in 1800 and 1801, respectively. The Alien Enemies Act, however, remains in effect as 50 USC Sections 21–24.[6]​

Jefferson was an anti-federalist, and that makes me a socialist? SMFH you just won the dumbest fuck award.

What makes you even think I am from Venezuela you dumb ass jibaro.