Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

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We won them first amendment freedoms and now it is all being throw away. The only reason I can see for Obama not helping them, if he doesn't, is because he thinks the first amendment is worthless.

Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Islamist insurgents have issued an ultimatum to northern Iraq's dwindling Christian population to either convert to Islam, pay a religious levy or face death, according to a statement distributed in the militant-controlled city of Mosul.
 
We won them first amendment freedoms and now it is all being throw away. The only reason I can see for Obama not helping them, if he doesn't, is because he thinks the first amendment is worthless.

Or.....we don't need to get involved in another land war in Asia.

And the 1st Amendment doesn't apply in Iraq. Its an american amendment to the american constitution applying to the good ol' US of A.
 
Islam seems to be going backwards in their religion. Going back to something that was practiced in the 7th century, then reformed in the 19th.

There are some good points about Islam. They sure do treat their women right...:whip:...They love everybody...:Boom2:...And they would give the shirt off their backs to help their neighbor...:slap: (that's sarcasm folks)

Does seem that the far left has nothing to say about Islam. I think it's cause they are petrified of the repercussions if they speak up, after all, they have no guns to scare the Islamic people away, when they come knocking on their doors.:lol:
 
What is the wording of the First Amendment to the Iraqi constitution?
 
We won them first amendment freedoms and now it is all being throw away. The only reason I can see for Obama not helping them, if he doesn't, is because he thinks the first amendment is worthless.

Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Islamist insurgents have issued an ultimatum to northern Iraq's dwindling Christian population to either convert to Islam, pay a religious levy or face death, according to a statement distributed in the militant-controlled city of Mosul.

Obama should send troops back to Iraq to defend the First Amendment?
 
Liberals are more worried about Christians and the Jews....

Although I am not sure what you posted is actually true it does appear to me to be true. Why do you think they are so worried?
 
We won them first amendment freedoms and now it is all being throw away. The only reason I can see for Obama not helping them, if he doesn't, is because he thinks the first amendment is worthless.

Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Islamist insurgents have issued an ultimatum to northern Iraq's dwindling Christian population to either convert to Islam, pay a religious levy or face death, according to a statement distributed in the militant-controlled city of Mosul.

Obama should send troops back to Iraq to defend the First Amendment?

Principle and not wasting the sacrifices our men gave.
 
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Yet more religious nonsense.

I'm so glad I don't buy into that mind numbing crap.
 
As I posted yesterday, Christians are being persecuted, ISIS has much of Iraq and Syria, and is not slowing down. Palestinians are Sunni largely, will they join the fight for an Islamic state?
 
The following references are made to Sharia in the Iraq Constitution:

Article 2:
First: Islam is the official religion of the State and it is a fundamental source of legislation:

A. No law that contradicts the established provisions of Islam may be established.

Article 89:
Second: The Federal Supreme Court shall be made up of number of judges, and experts in Islamic jurisprudence and law experts…


So in essence it's all very simple: . :cool:

Sharia Law says that non-muslims are to pay a special tax called "Jizya" if they want to live in an Islamic land.

Thus the Christians either need to pay the tax or relocate somewhere else.
 
We won them first amendment freedoms and now it is all being throw away. The only reason I can see for Obama not helping them, if he doesn't, is because he thinks the first amendment is worthless.

Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

Convert, pay tax, or die, Islamic State warns Christians

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Islamist insurgents have issued an ultimatum to northern Iraq's dwindling Christian population to either convert to Islam, pay a religious levy or face death, according to a statement distributed in the militant-controlled city of Mosul.

It's the same ultimatum that we will face one day with everyone's assistance.

Convert to Islam.

Pay Jizyah tax and submit to Islamic rule as a non-Muslim living under the protection of Muslims. Life as a Dhimmi. A second class citizenship at best.

Or die resisting either of the 1st two options.

That's what will face any and every person and group of people standing in the path of Islamization.

Two questions:

1. Will we stop this?

And, 2. When will we wake up and start the process of saving America and the world for Liberty against the unyielding creeping encroachment of totalitarian Islamism?
 
As I posted yesterday, Christians are being persecuted, ISIS has much of Iraq and Syria, and is not slowing down. Palestinians are Sunni largely, will they join the fight for an Islamic state?

When WWII was being waged seldom did we see troops shipped from the Pacific War, fighting Japan, to the European front being waged against Germany.

The Palestinians needn't travel a thousand miles to perform Jihad.

They can merely open their front door.

Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences

[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: “Allah is the all-powerful, but most people are not aware.”

From time to time a clamoring is voiced, to hold an International Conference in search for a solution to the problem.

Some accept the idea, others reject it, for one reason or another, demanding the implementation of this or that condition, as a prerequisite for agreeing to convene the Conference or for participating in it.

But the Islamic Resistance Movement, which is aware of the [prospective] parties to this conference, and of their past and present positions towards the problems of the Muslims, does not believe that those conferences are capable of responding to demands, or of restoring rights or doing justice to the oppressed.

Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the nonbelievers as arbitrators in the lands of Islam. Since when did the Unbelievers do justice to the Believers? “And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah [himself] is the Guidance.

And if you should follow their desires after the knowledge which has come unto thee, then you would have from Allah no protecting friend nor helper.” Sura 2 (the Cow), verse 120

There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people are too noble to have their future, their right and their destiny submitted to a vain game.

As the hadith has it: “The people of Syria are Allah’s whip on this land; He takes revenge by their intermediary from whoever he wished among his worshipers. The Hypocrites among them are forbidden from vanquishing the true believers, and they will die in anxiety and sorrow.”

(Told by Tabarani, who is traceable in ascending order of traditionaries to Muhammad, and by Ahmed whose chain of transmission is incomplete. But it is bound to be a true hadith, for both story tellers are reliable. Allah knows best.)

Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas
 
As I posted yesterday, Christians are being persecuted, ISIS has much of Iraq and Syria, and is not slowing down. Palestinians are Sunni largely, will they join the fight for an Islamic state?

When WWII was being waged seldom did we see troops shipped from the Pacific War, fighting Japan, to the European front being waged against Germany.

The Palestinians needn't travel a thousand miles to perform Jihad.

They can merely open their front door.

Article Thirteen: Peaceful Solutions, [Peace] Initiatives and International Conferences

[Peace] initiatives, the so-called peaceful solutions, and the international conferences to resolve the Palestinian problem, are all contrary to the beliefs of the Islamic Resistance Movement.

For renouncing any part of Palestine means renouncing part of the religion; the nationalism of the Islamic Resistance Movement is part of its faith, the movement educates its members to adhere to its principles and to raise the banner of Allah over their homeland as they fight their Jihad: “Allah is the all-powerful, but most people are not aware.”

From time to time a clamoring is voiced, to hold an International Conference in search for a solution to the problem.

Some accept the idea, others reject it, for one reason or another, demanding the implementation of this or that condition, as a prerequisite for agreeing to convene the Conference or for participating in it.

But the Islamic Resistance Movement, which is aware of the [prospective] parties to this conference, and of their past and present positions towards the problems of the Muslims, does not believe that those conferences are capable of responding to demands, or of restoring rights or doing justice to the oppressed.

Those conferences are no more than a means to appoint the nonbelievers as arbitrators in the lands of Islam. Since when did the Unbelievers do justice to the Believers? “And the Jews will not be pleased with thee, nor will the Christians, till thou follow their creed. Say: Lo! the guidance of Allah [himself] is the Guidance.

And if you should follow their desires after the knowledge which has come unto thee, then you would have from Allah no protecting friend nor helper.” Sura 2 (the Cow), verse 120

There is no solution to the Palestinian problem except by Jihad. The initiatives, proposals and International Conferences are but a waste of time, an exercise in futility. The Palestinian people are too noble to have their future, their right and their destiny submitted to a vain game.

As the hadith has it: “The people of Syria are Allah’s whip on this land; He takes revenge by their intermediary from whoever he wished among his worshipers. The Hypocrites among them are forbidden from vanquishing the true believers, and they will die in anxiety and sorrow.”

(Told by Tabarani, who is traceable in ascending order of traditionaries to Muhammad, and by Ahmed whose chain of transmission is incomplete. But it is bound to be a true hadith, for both story tellers are reliable. Allah knows best.)

Palestine Center - The Charter of the Hamas

Indonesian Muslims are not in line with the those in the many in mid east, I respect Islam, but not the actions of terrorists in the name of Islam. Thus, I believe America must stand with Israel.
 
What is the wording of the First Amendment to the Iraqi constitution?

Article 2

Iraq's Permanent Constitution (March 2006) | United States Commission on International Religious Freedom

Second: This Constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and guarantees the full religious rights to freedom of religious belief and practice of all individuals such as Christians, Yazidis, and Mandean Sabeans.

1.1 Article 38
Article 384 provides separate constitutional protection for the right of freedom of
expression (Article 38.A) and freedom of the press (Article 38.B). While the latter is
in fact an inherent component of the right of freedom of expression, it is helpful that it
is accorded separate, express protection in establishing a clear outline of the scope of
the constitutionally protected rights.
 
What is the wording of the First Amendment to the Iraqi constitution?

Article 2

Iraq's Permanent Constitution (March 2006) | United States Commission on International Religious Freedom

Second: This Constitution guarantees the Islamic identity of the majority of the Iraqi people and guarantees the full religious rights to freedom of religious belief and practice of all individuals such as Christians, Yazidis, and Mandean Sabeans.

1.1 Article 38
Article 384 provides separate constitutional protection for the right of freedom of
expression (Article 38.A) and freedom of the press (Article 38.B). While the latter is
in fact an inherent component of the right of freedom of expression, it is helpful that it
is accorded separate, express protection in establishing a clear outline of the scope of
the constitutionally protected rights.

But not Jews, thus a SHAM.
 

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