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Cop shoots dead Licensed Conceal Carry holder (MN)

What he said was pertinent to the discussion. When blacks are running around chanting "pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon" and "we want dead cops and we want them now" and cops are in fact being shot, you can't expect a cop to take a chance when some stupid fuck starts reaching under his seat as he approaches rather than sitting still.

Here's another questions. was the g/f originally in the vehicle when the stop was initiated? B/c clearly at some point she got out of the car, that's another no no, UNLESS instructed to get out by the police.

These stupid assholes don't have any respect for anyone or anything, including their own lives, else they would be more careful.
1) The mob chanting harm against police are wrong. OTOH, they don't have a sworn duty to serve the public. They're just dumb assholes.

2) I do expect police to do their job. If they can't handle it, they need to get out. I don't care if a person is a street cop, a military officer or the Secretary of State; if they can't do their job honestly, with integrity and competently, they need to get the fuck out of that position. That'd be the honorable thing to do.

IACP What is the Law Enforcement Oath of Honor?
On my honor,
I will never betray my badge1,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have
the courage to hold myself
and others accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the constitution2
my community3 and the agency I serve.
 
Completely disgusting.

This is a new low for America.
How does a stop for a broken tail light escalate so quickly into this?
How does the officer open fire on the driver with a woman and child in the car?

I think what I find the most disturbing is how calm the woman is. She seemed not surprised at all with the outcome even taking the time to live stream on facebook. This is now almost to be expected by black folks in America.

This one has my guts churning.
I have heard that she was a prostitute which would explain her emotional detachment
 
What he said was pertinent to the discussion. When blacks are running around chanting "pigs in a blanket fry them like bacon" and "we want dead cops and we want them now" and cops are in fact being shot, you can't expect a cop to take a chance when some stupid fuck starts reaching under his seat as he approaches rather than sitting still.

Here's another questions. was the g/f originally in the vehicle when the stop was initiated? B/c clearly at some point she got out of the car, that's another no no, UNLESS instructed to get out by the police.

These stupid assholes don't have any respect for anyone or anything, including their own lives, else they would be more careful.
1) The mob chanting harm against police are wrong. OTOH, they don't have a sworn duty to serve the public. They're just dumb assholes.

2) I do expect police to do their job. If they can't handle it, they need to get out. I don't care if a person is a street cop, a military officer or the Secretary of State; if they can't do their job honestly, with integrity and competently, they need to get the fuck out of that position. That'd be the honorable thing to do.

IACP What is the Law Enforcement Oath of Honor?
On my honor,
I will never betray my badge1,
my integrity, my character,
or the public trust.
I will always have
the courage to hold myself
and others accountable for our actions.
I will always uphold the constitution2
my community3 and the agency I serve.


I 100% agree that if they can't do the job they should get out.

But they absolutely have a right to defend themselves , up to and including using lethal force when necessary. I make no judgements whether it was necessary in THIS case because none of us know the facts yet, but in general terms some have this idea that the police should never shoot anyone and that is just stupid.
 
Completely disgusting.

This is a new low for America.
How does a stop for a broken tail light escalate so quickly into this?
How does the officer open fire on the driver with a woman and child in the car?

I think what I find the most disturbing is how calm the woman is. She seemed not surprised at all with the outcome even taking the time to live stream on facebook. This is now almost to be expected by black folks in America.

This one has my guts churning.
I have heard that she was a prostitute which would explain her emotional detachment


Here we go!
 
Completely disgusting.

This is a new low for America.
How does a stop for a broken tail light escalate so quickly into this?
How does the officer open fire on the driver with a woman and child in the car?

I think what I find the most disturbing is how calm the woman is. She seemed not surprised at all with the outcome even taking the time to live stream on facebook. This is now almost to be expected by black folks in America.

This one has my guts churning.
I have heard that she was a prostitute which would explain her emotional detachment


Here we go!
There YOU go lol. Jackass
 
Completely disgusting.

This is a new low for America.
How does a stop for a broken tail light escalate so quickly into this?
How does the officer open fire on the driver with a woman and child in the car?

I think what I find the most disturbing is how calm the woman is. She seemed not surprised at all with the outcome even taking the time to live stream on facebook. This is now almost to be expected by black folks in America.

This one has my guts churning.
I have heard that she was a prostitute which would explain her emotional detachment


Here we go!
There YOU go lol. Jackass

I heard she has overdue library books. Officer was justified
 
Looks bad, but need to wait for entire story.

The whole story is always the shooters story vs the dead guy's story.

Dead guys dont talk so thats an easy investigation.
There were multiple witnesses; two females in the car, the other police officer. There might be others passing by. Unfortunately, St. Anthony doesn't have body cams.

Falcon Heights shooting: Woman livestreams aftermath - CNN.com
Sgt. Jon Mangseth, the interim chief of the St. Anthony Police Department, said there were two officers present when the shooting occurred -- a primary officer responded, who he believes has more than five years of experience, and there was also a backup officer. Having both is standard procedure for the department, which has jurisdiction over Falcon Heights.

St. Anthony police don't have body cameras, according to office manager Kim Brazil.
 
Completely disgusting.

This is a new low for America.
How does a stop for a broken tail light escalate so quickly into this?
How does the officer open fire on the driver with a woman and child in the car?

I think what I find the most disturbing is how calm the woman is. She seemed not surprised at all with the outcome even taking the time to live stream on facebook. This is now almost to be expected by black folks in America.

This one has my guts churning.
I have heard that she was a prostitute which would explain her emotional detachment


Here we go!
There YOU go lol. Jackass

I heard she has overdue library books. Officer was justified
I've made no comment on the shooting. Only her emotional detachment at her "boyfriend" being shot. But you keep reaching scumbag
 
Looks bad, but need to wait for entire story.

The whole story is always the shooters story vs the dead guy's story.

Dead guys dont talk so thats an easy investigation.
There were multiple witnesses; two females in the car, the other police officer. There might be others passing by. Unfortunately, St. Anthony doesn't have body cams.

Oh thats easy. Bucs can lead with "Eye witness tesitmony is unreliable" viola. Thats taken care of. Now we just ask the Officer why he did it and if he can give a reason he's off the hook. If he cannot give a reason there might be trouble. And since reasons are hard to come by this should be interesting.
 
Looks bad, but need to wait for entire story.

The whole story is always the shooters story vs the dead guy's story.

Dead guys dont talk so thats an easy investigation.
There were multiple witnesses; two females in the car, the other police officer. There might be others passing by. Unfortunately, St. Anthony doesn't have body cams.

Falcon Heights shooting: Woman livestreams aftermath - CNN.com
Sgt. Jon Mangseth, the interim chief of the St. Anthony Police Department, said there were two officers present when the shooting occurred -- a primary officer responded, who he believes has more than five years of experience, and there was also a backup officer. Having both is standard procedure for the department, which has jurisdiction over Falcon Heights.

St. Anthony police don't have body cameras, according to office manager Kim Brazil.


2 things.


Number 1. Any police department that doesn't have body cams is stupid.

Number 2. Any white police officer who is working in a predominantly black area is an idiot. Quit, go find a job elsewhere, let the blacks police themselves. They are OBVIOUSLY looking for reasons to "get" white cops.
 
Completely disgusting.

This is a new low for America.
How does a stop for a broken tail light escalate so quickly into this?
How does the officer open fire on the driver with a woman and child in the car?

I think what I find the most disturbing is how calm the woman is. She seemed not surprised at all with the outcome even taking the time to live stream on facebook. This is now almost to be expected by black folks in America.

This one has my guts churning.
I have heard that she was a prostitute which would explain her emotional detachment


Here we go!
There YOU go lol. Jackass

I heard she has overdue library books. Officer was justified
I've made no comment on the shooting. Only her emotional detachment at her "boyfriend" being shot. But you keep reaching scumbag


She also once took 2 samples at Costco once. Seems weird
 
I have heard that she was a prostitute which would explain her emotional detachment


Here we go!
There YOU go lol. Jackass

I heard she has overdue library books. Officer was justified
I've made no comment on the shooting. Only her emotional detachment at her "boyfriend" being shot. But you keep reaching scumbag


She also once took 2 samples at Costco once. Seems weird
See sig
 
Here we go!
There YOU go lol. Jackass

I heard she has overdue library books. Officer was justified
I've made no comment on the shooting. Only her emotional detachment at her "boyfriend" being shot. But you keep reaching scumbag


She also once took 2 samples at Costco once. Seems weird
See sig

I support blacks OMG. And guess what else? Sometimes I take 2 mints when I leave Applebees. Outrageous behavior, right?
 
I gotta say....this one bothers me. Just judging by the officers voice and demeanor....he seems like one of this panty waste hires who should NEVER have been a cop and panicked the first time he thought someone may have a gun.

Experts on scene will decide it.


But my 2 cents for now....police have a recruiting/hiring crisis. Stop hiring pansy ass recruits who panic and stop watering down police academy so everyone passes. Police academy USED TO BE more like Army boot camp....which toughens the mind to work calm under stress (it's why the military does it).

We need massive change in the hiring, recruiting and training. MORE militarized....NOT LESS....because they'll be more calm under stress.
 
Just another day in america. Watch, the all-about-smaller-govt crowd will rush to blindly defend the power of the corporate state to murder.
Guy reached under his seat...for what?
Completely disgusting.

This is a new low for America.
How does a stop for a broken tail light escalate so quickly into this?
How does the officer open fire on the driver with a woman and child in the car?

I think what I find the most disturbing is how calm the woman is. She seemed not surprised at all with the outcome even taking the time to live stream on facebook. This is now almost to be expected by black folks in America.

This one has my guts churning.
She was calm because she is not right in the head or on drugs. How does it escalate? How about you don't make a sudden move and reach under your seat when you have a police officer who is trying to do his job and come home alive that day.

You have no evidence of anything you've said here.
Just biased, stereotypical bullshit.
 

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