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I just showed you I would.Yes, because I don't see any costs to a city when a business like Amazon moves in. They still need to plow the streets, they still need to maintain the streets, perhaps if an employee gets injured, they may need a rescue squad or something like that. But outside of emergency services which the company will seldom use, what costs to a city?
As for the details, they are not available right now. But what I do know is that Amazon will be paying more to the village than a pile of rocks.
Ok so then if there are no services to be paid for give the same deal to all corporations in the city. Wait you already said they can't afford to do that. So then there are obviously services to be paid for.
Ok so you are calling it a big win for the town without any details? You sound like a politician. I suspect by the time the details are released and not so good, things will be too far along...
Do you think this is new or something? CEO's and city leaders have been dealing with this issue for decades.
I never said there are no city services to be paid for, I said that the new company won't be generating a need for them.
I'm on the same side as you on most issues, but you're wrong on this one. These tax abatement schemes are corporate welfare. Even if one state or city benefits from an individual case, when they all do it they are just playing beggar thy neighbor and they all get screwed. The taxpayers end up subsidizing certain favored corporations and screwing all the other businesses in the city.
Not really because the other businesses will not be affected. They will have the same business, pay the same taxes they've always paid, nothing will change for them.
What happens is the city gets a new tax revenue stream. That's good for everybody involved.
Amazon receives a 75% subsidy on property taxes and other businesses get NOTHING?
How is that good?
Government spends more on corporate welfare than social welfare.Still waiting for an example, you know so I can destroy you.
Social welfare adds $1.70 to the economy for every $1.00 spent. Corporate welfare adds zero, and in some cases causes a negative.
That's pure bullshit. Welfare doesn't add a dime to "the economy," whatever that is supposed to mean.
Perhaps not in Canada, but in the United States of America;
Those who believe in cutting SNAP funding as a cost-saving measure should know that food stamps boost the economy -- not put a strain on it. Supporters of federal food benefits programs including President George W. Bush understood this, and proved the economic value of SNAP by sanctioning a USDA study that found that $1 in SNAP benefits generates $1.84 in gross domestic product (GDP). Mark Zandi, of Moody's Economy.com, confirmed the economic boost in an independent study that found that every SNAP dollar spent generates $1.73 in real GDP increase. "Expanding food stamps," the study read, "is the most effective way to prime the economy's pump."
The Economic Case for Food Stamps
This is false.
The value in the economy is determine by production. Food is consumed, but absolutely nothing is produced. The entire economy is worse off from snap.
If that claim was true, then we should encourage everyone in the entire country to live off the government, and not work. Now tell me, even in your socialist warped mind, how our country would fair if everyone lived off food stamps?
We already know. It's called the former Soviet Union, where people were starving to death, and engaging in cannibalism to survive.
It's the modern state of Venezuela today, where they are now having food riots.
But according to you, the endless subsidies in Venezuela for food, should have spurred a massive economic boom. Instead, they are on the verge of collapse.
LOL ...I just showed you I would.Ok so then if there are no services to be paid for give the same deal to all corporations in the city. Wait you already said they can't afford to do that. So then there are obviously services to be paid for.
Ok so you are calling it a big win for the town without any details? You sound like a politician. I suspect by the time the details are released and not so good, things will be too far along...
Do you think this is new or something? CEO's and city leaders have been dealing with this issue for decades.
I never said there are no city services to be paid for, I said that the new company won't be generating a need for them.
I'm on the same side as you on most issues, but you're wrong on this one. These tax abatement schemes are corporate welfare. Even if one state or city benefits from an individual case, when they all do it they are just playing beggar thy neighbor and they all get screwed. The taxpayers end up subsidizing certain favored corporations and screwing all the other businesses in the city.
Not really because the other businesses will not be affected. They will have the same business, pay the same taxes they've always paid, nothing will change for them.
What happens is the city gets a new tax revenue stream. That's good for everybody involved.
Amazon receives a 75% subsidy on property taxes and other businesses get NOTHING?
How is that good?
Every business that offers to spend millions developing new land, can get the tax abatement. Everyone that offers to invest that kind of money, can get the tax abatement.
They didn't pick Amazon because they like Amazon, and Bob knows Dan, who knows Tim, who knows Fred at Amazon.
They picked Amazon because the company offered to spend multi-millions investing and developing the land.
ANY company that offers that, can get a tax break.
I just showed you I would.Ok so then if there are no services to be paid for give the same deal to all corporations in the city. Wait you already said they can't afford to do that. So then there are obviously services to be paid for.
Ok so you are calling it a big win for the town without any details? You sound like a politician. I suspect by the time the details are released and not so good, things will be too far along...
Do you think this is new or something? CEO's and city leaders have been dealing with this issue for decades.
I never said there are no city services to be paid for, I said that the new company won't be generating a need for them.
I'm on the same side as you on most issues, but you're wrong on this one. These tax abatement schemes are corporate welfare. Even if one state or city benefits from an individual case, when they all do it they are just playing beggar thy neighbor and they all get screwed. The taxpayers end up subsidizing certain favored corporations and screwing all the other businesses in the city.
Not really because the other businesses will not be affected. They will have the same business, pay the same taxes they've always paid, nothing will change for them.
What happens is the city gets a new tax revenue stream. That's good for everybody involved.
Amazon receives a 75% subsidy on property taxes and other businesses get NOTHING?
How is that good?
Every business that offers to spend millions developing new land, can get the tax abatement. Everyone that offers to invest that kind of money, can get the tax abatement.
They didn't pick Amazon because they like Amazon, and Bob knows Dan, who knows Tim, who knows Fred at Amazon.
They picked Amazon because the company offered to spend multi-millions investing and developing the land.
ANY company that offers that, can get a tax break.
LOL ...I just showed you I would.Do you think this is new or something? CEO's and city leaders have been dealing with this issue for decades.
I never said there are no city services to be paid for, I said that the new company won't be generating a need for them.
I'm on the same side as you on most issues, but you're wrong on this one. These tax abatement schemes are corporate welfare. Even if one state or city benefits from an individual case, when they all do it they are just playing beggar thy neighbor and they all get screwed. The taxpayers end up subsidizing certain favored corporations and screwing all the other businesses in the city.
Not really because the other businesses will not be affected. They will have the same business, pay the same taxes they've always paid, nothing will change for them.
What happens is the city gets a new tax revenue stream. That's good for everybody involved.
Amazon receives a 75% subsidy on property taxes and other businesses get NOTHING?
How is that good?
Every business that offers to spend millions developing new land, can get the tax abatement. Everyone that offers to invest that kind of money, can get the tax abatement.
They didn't pick Amazon because they like Amazon, and Bob knows Dan, who knows Tim, who knows Fred at Amazon.
They picked Amazon because the company offered to spend multi-millions investing and developing the land.
ANY company that offers that, can get a tax break.
Yes, any company that has vast resources to spend can buy special favors from the government. And to you this is a feature, not a bug, right?
how could I? I don't speak fking stupid like you.of what you're looking for, you're spot on.you're right, I have no clue what you want me to show you an example of. we've asked for an example of a company that got a refund and still not one has been provided.what services?
Clearly you don't have a clue.
Yes you have no clue.
Didn't think you could back your claim.
don't they pay property taxes for those services? hmmmm you lost your point. Don't they pay for electric, water, sewer, phones, sales taxes etc, etc?,,,,,what services?If you add these altogether, you see that federal, state and local governments force American families to give, on average, $2436 per year to companies that certainly don’t need the handouts (or shouldn’t be in business if they do). That $2436 could go a long, long way for most families, whether it was spent on food and clothing, vacation, a college fund, or whatever mom, dad and the kids most need. Indeed, considering that the average American family spends around $6500 per year on food, eliminating these corporate subsidies and returning the savings to taxpayers could pay for about 4.5 months-worth of groceries.
Calculating the Real Cost of Corporate Welfare
Allowing corporations to keep their own money they earned is not corporate welfare.
Giving them services they don't pay for is welfare.
Infrastructure, police protection, all the things the rest of us pay taxes for.
they haven't been given anything. that's your entire problem. it's what makes you look stupid.Still waiting for an example, you know so I can destroy you.
I call it corporate welfare. You haven't came up with a suitable term. Obviously, it's not "fantasy" when they're being given millions. So, try again.
why build it there then? why doesn't a player take a lower salary from a team their on instead of going to Free Agency? to make more money? I'm just saying don't you know anything about economics?Giving them services they don't pay for is welfare.
How much in benefits does a community receive when say a Walmart locates in their area? Or, a distribution hub for Walmart, Amazon or other large corporation?
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NORTH RANDALL, Ohio - Amazon will bring more than 2,000 jobs to the tiny Cuyahoga County village of North Randall, where a massive fulfillment center is slated to rise from the demolition dust of Randall Park Mall.
The e-commerce giant finalized a lease deal Thursday on a planned 855,000-square-foot building, which could open during the second half of next year on a 69-acre site at Warrensville Center and Emery roads. News of the potential deal broke in July, after the project cropped up on a public meeting agenda. But North Randall was vying against other, unidentified sites.
The North Randall Village Council and the Warrensville Heights Board of Education have approved 15 years of 75 percent property-tax abatement for the Amazon facility. School board records show the village will pass along 33 percent of its income-tax collections from workers at the fulfillment center to the district."
Amazon commits to North Randall fulfillment center, with 2,000-plus jobs on former mall site
"Full-time employees at Amazon receive highly-competitive pay, health insurance, disability insurance, retirement savings plans and company stock starting on day one. The company offers up to 20 weeks of paid leave and innovative benefits such as Leave Share and Ramp Back, which give new parents flexibility with their growing families. Amazon also offers hourly employees its Career Choice program which helps train employees for in-demand jobs at Amazon and other companies so they can prepare for the future and take full advantage of the nation's innovation economy. The program pre-pays 95% of tuition for courses in in-demand, high-wage fields, regardless of whether the skills are relevant to a future career at Amazon. Over 10,000 employees have participated in Career Choice and more are signing up every day."
An Amazon Fulfillment Center Officially Comes to Former Randall Park Mall Site, Needs Workers
Nah, we don't want it. That's the village picking winners......namely the citizens of their village and surrounding areas where those employees will be hired from.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? If so why do they need a special deal on taxes?
The amazon around here doesn't pay much and has lots of turnover btw.
you can't get any more stupid then this guys post ^^^^^^^^^States and local governments need to compete to attract business.
What they're doing to "attract business" is a corruption of government.
Without competition, idiot politicians could create a "sweetened beverage tax", like the assholes in Cook County, and never suffer the consequences of their stupidity and greed.
That's not what we're talking about here. This isn't about different states having different laws. It's about states giving special perks to corporations they like, and fully taxing the rest. It's collusion and it's wrong.
they don't, the city would like it's citizens working and hence do the deal. fk you fks are stupid.Giving them services they don't pay for is welfare.
How much in benefits does a community receive when say a Walmart locates in their area? Or, a distribution hub for Walmart, Amazon or other large corporation?
"
NORTH RANDALL, Ohio - Amazon will bring more than 2,000 jobs to the tiny Cuyahoga County village of North Randall, where a massive fulfillment center is slated to rise from the demolition dust of Randall Park Mall.
The e-commerce giant finalized a lease deal Thursday on a planned 855,000-square-foot building, which could open during the second half of next year on a 69-acre site at Warrensville Center and Emery roads. News of the potential deal broke in July, after the project cropped up on a public meeting agenda. But North Randall was vying against other, unidentified sites.
The North Randall Village Council and the Warrensville Heights Board of Education have approved 15 years of 75 percent property-tax abatement for the Amazon facility. School board records show the village will pass along 33 percent of its income-tax collections from workers at the fulfillment center to the district."
Amazon commits to North Randall fulfillment center, with 2,000-plus jobs on former mall site
"Full-time employees at Amazon receive highly-competitive pay, health insurance, disability insurance, retirement savings plans and company stock starting on day one. The company offers up to 20 weeks of paid leave and innovative benefits such as Leave Share and Ramp Back, which give new parents flexibility with their growing families. Amazon also offers hourly employees its Career Choice program which helps train employees for in-demand jobs at Amazon and other companies so they can prepare for the future and take full advantage of the nation's innovation economy. The program pre-pays 95% of tuition for courses in in-demand, high-wage fields, regardless of whether the skills are relevant to a future career at Amazon. Over 10,000 employees have participated in Career Choice and more are signing up every day."
An Amazon Fulfillment Center Officially Comes to Former Randall Park Mall Site, Needs Workers
Nah, we don't want it. That's the village picking winners......namely the citizens of their village and surrounding areas where those employees will be hired from.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? If so why do they need a special deal on taxes?
The amazon around here doesn't pay much and has lots of turnover btw.
They don't need the special deals.
fks on the left know fking everything don't you know? even if it isn't advertised, they know it. ask them.How much in benefits does a community receive when say a Walmart locates in their area? Or, a distribution hub for Walmart, Amazon or other large corporation?
"
NORTH RANDALL, Ohio - Amazon will bring more than 2,000 jobs to the tiny Cuyahoga County village of North Randall, where a massive fulfillment center is slated to rise from the demolition dust of Randall Park Mall.
The e-commerce giant finalized a lease deal Thursday on a planned 855,000-square-foot building, which could open during the second half of next year on a 69-acre site at Warrensville Center and Emery roads. News of the potential deal broke in July, after the project cropped up on a public meeting agenda. But North Randall was vying against other, unidentified sites.
The North Randall Village Council and the Warrensville Heights Board of Education have approved 15 years of 75 percent property-tax abatement for the Amazon facility. School board records show the village will pass along 33 percent of its income-tax collections from workers at the fulfillment center to the district."
Amazon commits to North Randall fulfillment center, with 2,000-plus jobs on former mall site
"Full-time employees at Amazon receive highly-competitive pay, health insurance, disability insurance, retirement savings plans and company stock starting on day one. The company offers up to 20 weeks of paid leave and innovative benefits such as Leave Share and Ramp Back, which give new parents flexibility with their growing families. Amazon also offers hourly employees its Career Choice program which helps train employees for in-demand jobs at Amazon and other companies so they can prepare for the future and take full advantage of the nation's innovation economy. The program pre-pays 95% of tuition for courses in in-demand, high-wage fields, regardless of whether the skills are relevant to a future career at Amazon. Over 10,000 employees have participated in Career Choice and more are signing up every day."
An Amazon Fulfillment Center Officially Comes to Former Randall Park Mall Site, Needs Workers
Nah, we don't want it. That's the village picking winners......namely the citizens of their village and surrounding areas where those employees will be hired from.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? If so why do they need a special deal on taxes?
The amazon around here doesn't pay much and has lots of turnover btw.
There are several articles on this subject that refutes what you claim.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? Of course it is. Or do you think it's better for business to leave that mall in a pile of rubble?
They need a tax deal to keep their prices lower and provide good paying jobs with the best of benefits as the article outlines.
Lots of construction, lots of good paying jobs afterwards, the school system makes out, the taxpayers make out, even the state makes out. The domino effect of companies that provide Amazon with packing materials, trucking, and technology a plus.
Everybody wins, and tax abatements are responsible for it.
Good paying jobs? You're kidding, right?
It's already been posted on this board.
A supervisor at Amazon makes $15.65/hr which is crap pay. You have to stand for 8 hours in heat up to 90 degrees because Amazon doesn't believe in air conditioning. To qualify you need a bachelor's degree. Would anyone in their right mind pay $50K for an education for that job?
The American worker is woefully underpaid.
Amazon doesn't need subsidies. Period.
Really? I didn't see anybody post an article on the exact wages Amazon plans on paying. Did you? In spite of the many written articles on this new outlet of theirs, they all seem to contradict what you're claiming here. But they are wrong and you are right. So typically liberal of you.
If the village offered Amazon this deal, it's because the village and city are making out. Amazon is getting a 75% abatement on land taxes which means they are going to be paying 25% tax on nearly 70 acres of city land. And as my one article pointed out, that's on top of the employee city taxes they will be paying.
We'll be glad to take this new center to help our economy any day of the week. And if you bothered to read the article (which I'm sure you didn't) they are also looking at another closed down mall (about 15 miles from North Randall) for another new project. We'll take all the new jobs we can get.
right, it makes the consumer goods cheaper. again, the fks on the left know fking nothing about economics.How much in benefits does a community receive when say a Walmart locates in their area? Or, a distribution hub for Walmart, Amazon or other large corporation?
"
NORTH RANDALL, Ohio - Amazon will bring more than 2,000 jobs to the tiny Cuyahoga County village of North Randall, where a massive fulfillment center is slated to rise from the demolition dust of Randall Park Mall.
The e-commerce giant finalized a lease deal Thursday on a planned 855,000-square-foot building, which could open during the second half of next year on a 69-acre site at Warrensville Center and Emery roads. News of the potential deal broke in July, after the project cropped up on a public meeting agenda. But North Randall was vying against other, unidentified sites.
The North Randall Village Council and the Warrensville Heights Board of Education have approved 15 years of 75 percent property-tax abatement for the Amazon facility. School board records show the village will pass along 33 percent of its income-tax collections from workers at the fulfillment center to the district."
Amazon commits to North Randall fulfillment center, with 2,000-plus jobs on former mall site
"Full-time employees at Amazon receive highly-competitive pay, health insurance, disability insurance, retirement savings plans and company stock starting on day one. The company offers up to 20 weeks of paid leave and innovative benefits such as Leave Share and Ramp Back, which give new parents flexibility with their growing families. Amazon also offers hourly employees its Career Choice program which helps train employees for in-demand jobs at Amazon and other companies so they can prepare for the future and take full advantage of the nation's innovation economy. The program pre-pays 95% of tuition for courses in in-demand, high-wage fields, regardless of whether the skills are relevant to a future career at Amazon. Over 10,000 employees have participated in Career Choice and more are signing up every day."
An Amazon Fulfillment Center Officially Comes to Former Randall Park Mall Site, Needs Workers
Nah, we don't want it. That's the village picking winners......namely the citizens of their village and surrounding areas where those employees will be hired from.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? If so why do they need a special deal on taxes?
The amazon around here doesn't pay much and has lots of turnover btw.
There are several articles on this subject that refutes what you claim.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? Of course it is. Or do you think it's better for business to leave that mall in a pile of rubble?
They need a tax deal to keep their prices lower and provide good paying jobs with the best of benefits as the article outlines.
Lots of construction, lots of good paying jobs afterwards, the school system makes out, the taxpayers make out, even the state makes out. The domino effect of companies that provide Amazon with packing materials, trucking, and technology a plus.
Everybody wins, and tax abatements are responsible for it.
You like that government is making these decisions, rather than the market?
I like that government is stepping up to make us competitive. That's what I pay them to do. The decisions are left up to the industry after all the offers are presented. All our governments are doing is trying to make the best offer.
government doesn't spend a dime on corporate taxation. Not a fking dime. where the fk do you live? Stupidvilles?Government spends more on corporate welfare than social welfare.There's no such thing as corporate welfare.
What would you call it then when corporations get free money?
Fantasy, unless you have an example.
It's not fantasy, idiot. It happened.
Still waiting for an example, you know so I can destroy you.
so how does that beverage tax thing work? why does Cook County in Illinois pay more in taxes than Dupage County or Kane County. what the fk is wrong with idiots like you? where do you evolve from?Oh please........ I was telling that joke when I was a kid before you were even born, and I don't know what that has to do with the discussion.
We don't live in a country with a centralized government. We are individual governments that form a union. What my local government does and your local government does are two different things.
Once again (third, fourth time?) we're not talking about states having different laws. That's fine. What we're talking about is states enforcing those laws unequally. Read up on "rule of law" sometime. (Rule of law - Wikipedia)
Once I pay my city tax money, it's the cities money and their call on what to do with it. Once I pay my state tax money, it's the states call on what to do with it. Once I pay my federal taxes, it's the federal governments decision on what to do with that money.
Nope. Government in the US is Constitutionally limited. It doesn't get to do whatever it wants.
Nobody outside of my city can tell us what to do with our very own money. Same with the state. Our money--our business.
Wrong again. It's not your money. It's money taken from taxpayers. And because of that, taxpayers are protected from governments that would abuse the power.
so why haven't any bridges been updated ? why is our infrastructure on the verge of collapse?We talked about this a lot earlier in the thread. It's probably more accurate to refer to it as "Corporate Socialism", as the net effect is the state exerting control over capital.Allowing corporations to keep their own money they earned is not corporate welfare.
ALL the money comes from businesses, neither the state or federal government generate revenue. Its hardly welfare or socialism or any other damn nonsense if businesses get to keep their own damn money.
Thanks Simple Simon; your opinions are always so well thought out (sarcasm).
Sagacious thinkers understand the benefit to business and industry of the power, water, sewage, roads, and police and fire protection, paid for by all taxpayers - individuals and businesses.
Holy crap you are dumb, where do you think the money to build the power stations, water, sewage, and roads came from? Do you think government held a bake sale?
I know where the money came from bozo, selling bonds. Capitalism bozo, not Socialism. It comes down to fiscally responsible government to evaluate funding bridges to no where, or bridges which benefit commerce; it's why putting money into roads and public transportation systems are cost benefit projects, and why corporate welfare is a cost deficit.
fks on the left know fking everything don't you know? even if it isn't advertised, they know it. ask them."
NORTH RANDALL, Ohio - Amazon will bring more than 2,000 jobs to the tiny Cuyahoga County village of North Randall, where a massive fulfillment center is slated to rise from the demolition dust of Randall Park Mall.
The e-commerce giant finalized a lease deal Thursday on a planned 855,000-square-foot building, which could open during the second half of next year on a 69-acre site at Warrensville Center and Emery roads. News of the potential deal broke in July, after the project cropped up on a public meeting agenda. But North Randall was vying against other, unidentified sites.
The North Randall Village Council and the Warrensville Heights Board of Education have approved 15 years of 75 percent property-tax abatement for the Amazon facility. School board records show the village will pass along 33 percent of its income-tax collections from workers at the fulfillment center to the district."
Amazon commits to North Randall fulfillment center, with 2,000-plus jobs on former mall site
"Full-time employees at Amazon receive highly-competitive pay, health insurance, disability insurance, retirement savings plans and company stock starting on day one. The company offers up to 20 weeks of paid leave and innovative benefits such as Leave Share and Ramp Back, which give new parents flexibility with their growing families. Amazon also offers hourly employees its Career Choice program which helps train employees for in-demand jobs at Amazon and other companies so they can prepare for the future and take full advantage of the nation's innovation economy. The program pre-pays 95% of tuition for courses in in-demand, high-wage fields, regardless of whether the skills are relevant to a future career at Amazon. Over 10,000 employees have participated in Career Choice and more are signing up every day."
An Amazon Fulfillment Center Officially Comes to Former Randall Park Mall Site, Needs Workers
Nah, we don't want it. That's the village picking winners......namely the citizens of their village and surrounding areas where those employees will be hired from.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? If so why do they need a special deal on taxes?
The amazon around here doesn't pay much and has lots of turnover btw.
There are several articles on this subject that refutes what you claim.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? Of course it is. Or do you think it's better for business to leave that mall in a pile of rubble?
They need a tax deal to keep their prices lower and provide good paying jobs with the best of benefits as the article outlines.
Lots of construction, lots of good paying jobs afterwards, the school system makes out, the taxpayers make out, even the state makes out. The domino effect of companies that provide Amazon with packing materials, trucking, and technology a plus.
Everybody wins, and tax abatements are responsible for it.
Good paying jobs? You're kidding, right?
It's already been posted on this board.
A supervisor at Amazon makes $15.65/hr which is crap pay. You have to stand for 8 hours in heat up to 90 degrees because Amazon doesn't believe in air conditioning. To qualify you need a bachelor's degree. Would anyone in their right mind pay $50K for an education for that job?
The American worker is woefully underpaid.
Amazon doesn't need subsidies. Period.
Really? I didn't see anybody post an article on the exact wages Amazon plans on paying. Did you? In spite of the many written articles on this new outlet of theirs, they all seem to contradict what you're claiming here. But they are wrong and you are right. So typically liberal of you.
If the village offered Amazon this deal, it's because the village and city are making out. Amazon is getting a 75% abatement on land taxes which means they are going to be paying 25% tax on nearly 70 acres of city land. And as my one article pointed out, that's on top of the employee city taxes they will be paying.
We'll be glad to take this new center to help our economy any day of the week. And if you bothered to read the article (which I'm sure you didn't) they are also looking at another closed down mall (about 15 miles from North Randall) for another new project. We'll take all the new jobs we can get.
they haven't been given anything. that's your entire problem. it's what makes you look stupid.Still waiting for an example, you know so I can destroy you.
I call it corporate welfare. You haven't came up with a suitable term. Obviously, it's not "fantasy" when they're being given millions. So, try again.
huh? Solydra got a fking boat load of money and failed. I agree they do, but for the OP that isn't what is happening, so learn the difference between subsidizing and tax incentives.they haven't been given anything. that's your entire problem. it's what makes you look stupid.Still waiting for an example, you know so I can destroy you.
I call it corporate welfare. You haven't came up with a suitable term. Obviously, it's not "fantasy" when they're being given millions. So, try again.
Govt. gives businesses money all the time, dude.
And for this particular case, you've shown no documentation to support your claim. You come off as a a total f*cking hack.
I'm against handing money to corporations like Solydra and GM. I'm all for tax incentives to grow business and jobs. I'm fking way in for that.fks on the left know fking everything don't you know? even if it isn't advertised, they know it. ask them.Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? If so why do they need a special deal on taxes?
The amazon around here doesn't pay much and has lots of turnover btw.
There are several articles on this subject that refutes what you claim.
Is it good for business for Amazon to build this? Of course it is. Or do you think it's better for business to leave that mall in a pile of rubble?
They need a tax deal to keep their prices lower and provide good paying jobs with the best of benefits as the article outlines.
Lots of construction, lots of good paying jobs afterwards, the school system makes out, the taxpayers make out, even the state makes out. The domino effect of companies that provide Amazon with packing materials, trucking, and technology a plus.
Everybody wins, and tax abatements are responsible for it.
Good paying jobs? You're kidding, right?
It's already been posted on this board.
A supervisor at Amazon makes $15.65/hr which is crap pay. You have to stand for 8 hours in heat up to 90 degrees because Amazon doesn't believe in air conditioning. To qualify you need a bachelor's degree. Would anyone in their right mind pay $50K for an education for that job?
The American worker is woefully underpaid.
Amazon doesn't need subsidies. Period.
Really? I didn't see anybody post an article on the exact wages Amazon plans on paying. Did you? In spite of the many written articles on this new outlet of theirs, they all seem to contradict what you're claiming here. But they are wrong and you are right. So typically liberal of you.
If the village offered Amazon this deal, it's because the village and city are making out. Amazon is getting a 75% abatement on land taxes which means they are going to be paying 25% tax on nearly 70 acres of city land. And as my one article pointed out, that's on top of the employee city taxes they will be paying.
We'll be glad to take this new center to help our economy any day of the week. And if you bothered to read the article (which I'm sure you didn't) they are also looking at another closed down mall (about 15 miles from North Randall) for another new project. We'll take all the new jobs we can get.
So do you claim to be a conservative? But you want the government picking winners and losers? Like solyndra?
