Corporate welfare in action ....

[Billy_Kinetta]

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

If someone is only worth $2.00 an hour, why should they be paid more?

Someone else might value their labor more.

And they are free to work for such a person.

See how this works?

 

[BluesLegend]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

If the worker can't provide the skills necessary to EARN a living wage, that is on them, not on ANY employer. The employer did not raise them and teach them their work ethics.

If the employer needs an employee then that job should pay enough to live on or that job shouldn't exist.

That's quite the nutty statement.

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

I worked for $2 an hour, a brutal job working on a farm picking cabbage and moving irrigation pipe.

 

[Conservative65]

If you can't afford to pay your workers a living wage you shouldn't be in business. Period.

If the worker can't provide the skills necessary to EARN a living wage, that is on them, not on ANY employer. The employer did not raise them and teach them their work ethics.

If the employer needs an employee then that job should pay enough to live on or that job shouldn't exist.

That's quite the nutty statement.

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

Me people want to pay a fair wage for the work required, and pay it to Americans. The people I wish to deport are not immigrants, but opportunists.

Boot out the illegals, trim welfare significantly, and just watch how fast those "jobs that Americans won't do" are filled by Americans.

Said that for years. Get rid of the illegals and offer the jobs the illegals are doing to those supposedly unwilling to do those jobs. If those living on social welfare refuse to take it, no more handouts. It solves two problems. Illegals gone and freeloaders either working or no longer being handed something for refusing to work.

 

[Conservative65]

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

If someone is only worth $2.00 an hour, why should they be paid more?

Someone else might value their labor more.

And they are free to work for such a person.

See how this works?

As long as the one that values them more is determining their pay and not the government through an artificially higher wage than the skills are worth.

 

[BluesLegend]

If the worker can't provide the skills necessary to EARN a living wage, that is on them, not on ANY employer. The employer did not raise them and teach them their work ethics.

If the employer needs an employee then that job should pay enough to live on or that job shouldn't exist.

That's quite the nutty statement.

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

Me people want to pay a fair wage for the work required, and pay it to Americans. The people I wish to deport are not immigrants, but opportunists.

Boot out the illegals, trim welfare significantly, and just watch how fast those "jobs that Americans won't do" are filled by Americans.

Said that for years. Get rid of the illegals and offer the jobs the illegals are doing to those supposedly unwilling to do those jobs. If those living on social welfare refuse to take it, no more handouts. It solves two problems. Illegals gone and freeloaders either working or no longer being handed something for refusing to work.

Culture, we don't want to become Greece where the lazy think they can sit around on their ass and other people should work to pay their bills. Nancy Pelosi's daughter interviewed a able bodied man standing in line at a welfare office, the guy admitted he hasn't worked a job in 5 years.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why are employees due a "living wage" regardless of the work they do? When did it become the responsibility of the business owner to defy Darwin?

Simply being alive does not entitle you to be taken care of by others by statute.

Simply being alive does not entitle you to be taken care of. But if you work for a living you should earn a living.

If you work for a living, develop a skill that pays a "living wage".

If you don't make enough money to live how the fuck are you supposed to develop skills?

Whose problem is that?

Everyone's since were all paying tax dollars to support our impoverished. I'd prefer to minimize poverty than shell out my money. But to minimize poverty we have to address it's causes. A huge problem is that education now costs a small fortune. The more out of reach edu is the more poverty we will accumulate. The more out of reach edu is, the less competitive our country will be on a global scale.

A huge problem is that education now costs a small fortune.

The government shoveling hundreds of billions at education has caused prices to rise?

That's a shocker!!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

If someone is only worth $2.00 an hour, why should they be paid more?

Someone else might value their labor more.

Then that's when they should leave to work for that someone else.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then let's fix our immigration system. Let's create a path to citizenship. Let's stick to our founding principles of welcoming immigration.

We allow one million immigrants to this country every year; the legal ones I mean. How many more do you want?

One of the reasons we are becoming a bilingual society is because we have too many foreigners here. They are not assimilating or adopting the American ways. That's why we keep it down to just one million. We don't need people coming here and changing our country into theirs which is what's happening today.

 

[Brain357]

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

If someone is only worth $2.00 an hour, why should they be paid more?

Someone else might value their labor more.

As long as the person paying them is doing it because they chose to rather than the government mandating a minimum amount.

So the government shouldn't dictate actions in the economy?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If you work for a living, develop a skill that pays a "living wage".

If you don't make enough money to live how the fuck are you supposed to develop skills?

Whose problem is that?

Everyone's since were all paying tax dollars to support our impoverished. I'd prefer to minimize poverty than shell out my money. But to minimize poverty we have to address it's causes. A huge problem is that education now costs a small fortune. The more out of reach edu is the more poverty we will accumulate. The more out of reach edu is, the less competitive our country will be on a global scale.

I don't suppose it occurs to you to consider why it costs so much.

Yea it has occurred to me....
Apparently edu is a privilege of the wealthy in this country.

Hmmm. I can't wait to tell my sister she is wealthy. She'll be surprised to learn that. She actually feels broke trying to repay the college loans of her two children. She'll probably be paying on those until she retires. But of course she has it better than her kids who are in their 30's now with no end in sight repaying their portions of the college loans.

 

[Aries]

If you don't make enough money to live how the fuck are you supposed to develop skills?

Whose problem is that?

Everyone's since were all paying tax dollars to support our impoverished. I'd prefer to minimize poverty than shell out my money. But to minimize poverty we have to address it's causes. A huge problem is that education now costs a small fortune. The more out of reach edu is the more poverty we will accumulate. The more out of reach edu is, the less competitive our country will be on a global scale.

I don't suppose it occurs to you to consider why it costs so much.

Yea it has occurred to me....
Apparently edu is a privilege of the wealthy in this country.

Hmmm. I can't wait to tell my sister she is wealthy. She'll be surprised to learn that. She actually feels broke trying to repay the college loans of her two children. She'll probably be paying on those until she retires. But of course she has it better than her kids who are in their 30's now with no end in sight repaying their portions of the college loans.

Wow. Proving my point?
Your sister and her kids are shining examples of the problem. People shouldn't be in debt their entire life to get an edu.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Whose problem is that?

Everyone's since were all paying tax dollars to support our impoverished. I'd prefer to minimize poverty than shell out my money. But to minimize poverty we have to address it's causes. A huge problem is that education now costs a small fortune. The more out of reach edu is the more poverty we will accumulate. The more out of reach edu is, the less competitive our country will be on a global scale.

I don't suppose it occurs to you to consider why it costs so much.

Yea it has occurred to me....
Apparently edu is a privilege of the wealthy in this country.

Hmmm. I can't wait to tell my sister she is wealthy. She'll be surprised to learn that. She actually feels broke trying to repay the college loans of her two children. She'll probably be paying on those until she retires. But of course she has it better than her kids who are in their 30's now with no end in sight repaying their portions of the college loans.

Wow. Proving my point?
Your sister and her kids are shining examples of the problem. People shouldn't be in debt their entire life to get an edu.

I agree. But who should pay for it?

 

[Aries]

Then let's fix our immigration system. Let's create a path to citizenship. Let's stick to our founding principles of welcoming immigration.

We allow one million immigrants to this country every year; the legal ones I mean. How many more do you want?

One of the reasons we are becoming a bilingual society is because we have too many foreigners here. They are not assimilating or adopting the American ways. That's why we keep it down to just one million. We don't need people coming here and changing our country into theirs which is what's happening today.

Gaining citizenship takes a long time these days. Implying a million a year are given citizenship with in 12 months is ridiculous. Where's your source? Being here legally doesn't always mean someone's a citizen...

On to your other bologna, what's wrong with being bilingual and having diversity?

 

[jc456]

Then let's fix our immigration system. Let's create a path to citizenship. Let's stick to our founding principles of welcoming immigration.

We allow one million immigrants to this country every year; the legal ones I mean. How many more do you want?

One of the reasons we are becoming a bilingual society is because we have too many foreigners here. They are not assimilating or adopting the American ways. That's why we keep it down to just one million. We don't need people coming here and changing our country into theirs which is what's happening today.

so why do they want to come here if all they want is to live in their home country again? I lost that alignment somewhere in the desert.

 

[jc456]

Then let's fix our immigration system. Let's create a path to citizenship. Let's stick to our founding principles of welcoming immigration.

We allow one million immigrants to this country every year; the legal ones I mean. How many more do you want?

One of the reasons we are becoming a bilingual society is because we have too many foreigners here. They are not assimilating or adopting the American ways. That's why we keep it down to just one million. We don't need people coming here and changing our country into theirs which is what's happening today.

Gaining citizenship takes a long time these days. Implying a million a year are given citizenship with in 12 months is ridiculous. Where's your source? Being here legally doesn't always mean someone's a citizen...

On to your other bologna, what's wrong with being bilingual and having diversity?

that isn't what he said. you should learn to read.

 

[Aries]

Then let's fix our immigration system. Let's create a path to citizenship. Let's stick to our founding principles of welcoming immigration.

We allow one million immigrants to this country every year; the legal ones I mean. How many more do you want?

One of the reasons we are becoming a bilingual society is because we have too many foreigners here. They are not assimilating or adopting the American ways. That's why we keep it down to just one million. We don't need people coming here and changing our country into theirs which is what's happening today.

Gaining citizenship takes a long time these days. Implying a million a year are given citizenship with in 12 months is ridiculous. Where's your source? Being here legally doesn't always mean someone's a citizen...

On to your other bologna, what's wrong with being bilingual and having diversity?

that isn't what he said. you should learn to read.

I can read ... I can even read bullshit. That's an important skill on this board.

 

[Aries]

Everyone's since were all paying tax dollars to support our impoverished. I'd prefer to minimize poverty than shell out my money. But to minimize poverty we have to address it's causes. A huge problem is that education now costs a small fortune. The more out of reach edu is the more poverty we will accumulate. The more out of reach edu is, the less competitive our country will be on a global scale.

I don't suppose it occurs to you to consider why it costs so much.

Yea it has occurred to me....
Apparently edu is a privilege of the wealthy in this country.

Hmmm. I can't wait to tell my sister she is wealthy. She'll be surprised to learn that. She actually feels broke trying to repay the college loans of her two children. She'll probably be paying on those until she retires. But of course she has it better than her kids who are in their 30's now with no end in sight repaying their portions of the college loans.

Wow. Proving my point?
Your sister and her kids are shining examples of the problem. People shouldn't be in debt their entire life to get an edu.

I agree. But who should pay for it?

I think we need to first start with lowering costs and making it more affordable. Everything is overpriced, edu like every thing else here is run like a business. They charge kids 700$ for a 100$ book. High prices for food they have to choke down. Just a class it's self can be over a grand. Every thing is inflated in price for profit.
Cut
That
Shit
Out
Let's get prices down to actual worth of what they're paying for would be a start. If tax dollars or even donation dollars that currently go to grants and loans etc was used on lower overall costs every student would benefit more.
I don't think we can snap our fingers and make edu free but we need to lower the costs and it needs to start now. An educated population benefits our country as a whole. We will have more productivity and less poverty.

 

[dblack]

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

If someone is only worth $2.00 an hour, why should they be paid more?

Someone else might value their labor more.

Then that's when they should leave to work for that someone else.

My point is just that we talk about what people are worth or, more accurately, what their labor is worth - but it's not an intrinsic value. It's entirely subjective. What a job is worth depends on who is paying for it and who is doing the work.

 

[jc456]

Then let's fix our immigration system. Let's create a path to citizenship. Let's stick to our founding principles of welcoming immigration.

We allow one million immigrants to this country every year; the legal ones I mean. How many more do you want?

One of the reasons we are becoming a bilingual society is because we have too many foreigners here. They are not assimilating or adopting the American ways. That's why we keep it down to just one million. We don't need people coming here and changing our country into theirs which is what's happening today.

Gaining citizenship takes a long time these days. Implying a million a year are given citizenship with in 12 months is ridiculous. Where's your source? Being here legally doesn't always mean someone's a citizen...

On to your other bologna, what's wrong with being bilingual and having diversity?

that isn't what he said. you should learn to read.

I can read ... I can even read bullshit. That's an important skill on this board.

I agree, the left drop piles like my dogs in the back yard. little poopy land mines

 

[jc456]

So if you people want to pay Americans $2 an hour ..why are you so hell bent on deporting immigrants who provide cheap labor?

If someone is only worth $2.00 an hour, why should they be paid more?

Someone else might value their labor more.

Then that's when they should leave to work for that someone else.

My point is just that we talk about what people are worth or, more accurately, what their labor is worth - but it's not an intrinsic value. It's entirely subjective. What a job is worth depends on who is paying for it and who is doing the work.

it is determined by the industry on what the value is and what the companies will pay. Just like in sports, a QB makes much more than a lineman right? why do you supposed? it's the thingy that libturds can't understand logically. it's what makes the libturds stupid.