Could You Combat Vets Pls Educate The People Who Say We Haven't Been At War Since W W 2?

[Flopper]

Do you really think someone who lost a limb really cares what the fuck you, Bush, Obama, or some liberals call it?

The reason why is the important thing here, not what it's called

Putting semantics aside, we have been in 5 wars since ww2. We haven't "won" any of them. Maybe it's time for a General to be president...or better yet a SEAL...we need to relearn the art of killing.

How can you put semantics aside? The opposing arguments are applying different definitions of war.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Combat is war.

US Army 1988 - Sep 22 2014 (almost here)

so what's next?

Not sure yet. Have business interests that are thankfully making money so no need to rush out and find a job, and honestly I probably won't. I'm actually being retired on a disability, but it's just a trick knee, nothing that would prevent me from doing anything and I get nothing extra for it (nor do I want anything extra) that's just the offiial reason for my retirement. Truth is I just got tired of it. Forty three is too old to be breaking up bar fights, and I can't sit behind a desk, so...........

i have a friend retiring in march. bastard got on with the state department, he'll be working in some embassy somewhere
what was your mos?

31A - Military Police

I hold the rank of LTC which is the equivalent of a GS-14. Getting a job is no problem. Wanting one however? Nah.

That's new. I was trained as an MP when it was an 95 B. One more reminder of being O L D

That USED to be the enlisted designation and officers were 31A - but they changed it around Aug of 03 if I recall so that enlisted and officers had the same number designator.

Well I was a 95B back in the 70's, welcome to my world. But I ended up behind a desk anyway.

Jesus Christ you dinosaur LOL. Yes I had no interest in a desk. I was told I could probably see one more promotion in my career to full bird if I would accept a desk assignment, no thanks...

 

[NYcarbineer]

Combat is war.

US Army 1988 - Sep 22 2014 (almost here)

so what's next?

Not sure yet. Have business interests that are thankfully making money so no need to rush out and find a job, and honestly I probably won't. I'm actually being retired on a disability, but it's just a trick knee, nothing that would prevent me from doing anything and I get nothing extra for it (nor do I want anything extra) that's just the offiial reason for my retirement. Truth is I just got tired of it. Forty three is too old to be breaking up bar fights, and I can't sit behind a desk, so...........

i have a friend retiring in march. bastard got on with the state department, he'll be working in some embassy somewhere
what was your mos?

31A - Military Police

I hold the rank of LTC which is the equivalent of a GS-14. Getting a job is no problem. Wanting one however? Nah.

That's new. I was trained as an MP when it was an 95 B. One more reminder of being O L D

That USED to be the enlisted designation and officers were 31A - but they changed it around Aug of 03 if I recall so that enlisted and officers had the same number designator.

Well I was a 95B back in the 70's, welcome to my world. But I ended up behind a desk anyway.

Jesus Christ you dinosaur LOL. Yes I had no interest in a desk. I was told I could probably see one more promotion in my career to full bird if I would accept a desk assignment, no thanks...

Career was not my word for it. I was drafted.

 

[SmarterThanTheAverageBear]

Combat is war.

US Army 1988 - Sep 22 2014 (almost here)

so what's next?

Not sure yet. Have business interests that are thankfully making money so no need to rush out and find a job, and honestly I probably won't. I'm actually being retired on a disability, but it's just a trick knee, nothing that would prevent me from doing anything and I get nothing extra for it (nor do I want anything extra) that's just the offiial reason for my retirement. Truth is I just got tired of it. Forty three is too old to be breaking up bar fights, and I can't sit behind a desk, so...........

i have a friend retiring in march. bastard got on with the state department, he'll be working in some embassy somewhere
what was your mos?

31A - Military Police

I hold the rank of LTC which is the equivalent of a GS-14. Getting a job is no problem. Wanting one however? Nah.

That's new. I was trained as an MP when it was an 95 B. One more reminder of being O L D

That USED to be the enlisted designation and officers were 31A - but they changed it around Aug of 03 if I recall so that enlisted and officers had the same number designator.

Well I was a 95B back in the 70's, welcome to my world. But I ended up behind a desk anyway.

Jesus Christ you dinosaur LOL. Yes I had no interest in a desk. I was told I could probably see one more promotion in my career to full bird if I would accept a desk assignment, no thanks...

Career was not my word for it. I was drafted.

I figured as much given the timeline

 

[deltex1]

Do you really think someone who lost a limb really cares what the fuck you, Bush, Obama, or some liberals call it?

The reason why is the important thing here, not what it's called

Putting semantics aside, we have been in 5 wars since ww2. We haven't "won" any of them. Maybe it's time for a General to be president...or better yet a SEAL...we need to relearn the art of killing.

How can you put semantics aside? The opposing arguments are applying different definitions of war.

I am changing the discussion from what's the definition to what's the purpose. The purpose is to win. We haven't done that. That's more important than the definition.

 

[Kondor3]

Combat is war.

US Army 1988 - Sep 22 2014 (almost here)

10 days and a wake-up. ;-) Short-timer...

Congrats, Kondor!

No, that was me commenting on our colleague, the Smart Bear... my 10 days and a wake-up was quite a few years ago. ;-)

 

[regent]

Combat is war.

US Army 1988 - Sep 22 2014 (almost here)

in the common vernacular anyhow

In the vernacular of your opinion and $4 will buy you a Starbucks coffee if you haven't been in combat.

amazing... that's exactly what $4, an opinion, and having been in combat will get someone.

I don't think there was a time that the US wasn't involved in a war, great or small. Korea, Vietnam and the gulf wars were perhaps some of the biggest in recent times.

On my first pass at Percy Jones I waited for the train to Chicago. The loading platform was loaded with amputees, maybe fifty waiting for the train, all leg amputees. I soon realized that they were probably from one ward, no double amputees or arm. Later I also realized that some with an apparent two legs may also be leg amputees noticeable by the little extra kick. I was amazed how happy they seemed as a group, laughing and pushing each other around, all going home on weekend pass. Most wore the Percy Jones military fashion ensemble, no medals just the combat infantry badge and division shoulder patch. I guess they believed that pretty much said it all, branch, and where.

 

[EconChick]

Right, deltex, and when Kerry says we're not at war, he sends the signal the US isn't resolute.

Which Obama is not.

 

[Politico]

A number of members have posted this in some of the serious threads on this Board. When asked how all these vets received missing limbs over the past few decades, the problem with the word game goes over their heads.

There's the academic and political wording, and then there's reality.

Any Vets or others care to help educate them?

I never met a vet who 'received' a missing limb.