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You don't think our government is "Corporate"? Think about it? Not only do the corporations control our government, but our government is corporate in and of itself these days.
I think letting the Federal Government with its current CEO, Barack Obama, running health care is a prescription for an immediate disaster.
How many liberals are unaware of our debt level?
Why are you happy we will be adding to the debt by funding yet another thing private industry should handle?
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U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time
$14.3 TRILLION in the hole
How many conservatives are unaware how much we spend on medicare, when we should be trying to find cures for the diseases that we spend so much on.
Name me ONE thing that the government has funded that worked out?
I think letting the Federal Government with its current CEO, Barack Obama, running health care is a prescription for an immediate disaster.
You don't think our government is "Corporate"? Think about it? Not only do the corporations control our government, but our government is corporate in and of itself these days.
I think letting the Federal Government with its current CEO, Barack Obama, running health care is a prescription for an immediate disaster.
Sadly, yes, our government is a puppet for the corporations. Notice how we are forever privatizing profit and making the debt purely public concern. This is why I say that cures will only come from purely scientific (and not profit driven) labs. That's the way it always has been and the way it always will be. Corporations will never do the right thing if it doesn't make them money. Period.
I think letting the Federal Government with its current CEO, Barack Obama, running health care is a prescription for an immediate disaster.
That's why I'm all about a free-standing not for profit public co-op. This would work the best for all Americans in this country IMO. And government couldn't get their hands in it to steal the funds.
This is for insurance purposes, obviously. The ridiculous cost of health care is another animal all-together.
I'll take corporate greed over evil power grabbers any day.
Now, that is a different ball of wax in its entirety. It seemed as if you have been promoting government control.
I'll take corporate greed over evil power grabbers any day.
Wow, you don't see corporate greed as an evil power grabber? At least we VOTE for our representatives, well until corporations can pay for them outright instead of lobbying and stacking regulatory boards. They're getting there. I do not trust anything about corporations and no good whatsoever comes out of their greed. Sorry, but that's the truth.
How many conservatives are unaware how much we spend on medicare, when we should be trying to find cures for the diseases that we spend so much on.
Name me ONE thing that the government has funded that worked out?
How 'bout this series of tubes you're typing on?
Now, that is a different ball of wax in its entirety. It seemed as if you have been promoting government control.
Never once have I uttered "health care" and "government control" in the same sentance, and neither has anyone you would probably consider "left". No one listens to us in the first place, and then you've got the Republican propaganda machine going full tilt. Maybe if people would stop screaming and act like adults, we could come up with creative ideas like this. I don't see it happening, though.
I will say this, no matter what, we HAVE to take profit out of the picture if we really want to make health care/health insurance affordable for EVERYONE and more like a utility, which it in essence, has become for most.
Corporate greed is for money... cold hard cash. That kind of power affects me much less than the government son of a bitch that wants my soul and to enslave me.
Really? You believe the government owns all the infrastructure required to operate the internet? Or that they even built it all?
Corporate greed is for money... cold hard cash. That kind of power affects me much less than the government son of a bitch that wants my soul and to enslave me.
You don't think corporate greed affects you???? Wow, where have you been the last decade:
Iraq = war for $$$$
Enron costing California 30 Billion after duping them into deregulation
Meat industry's biohazard products sickening and killing thousands each year - yet the federal gov't is not ALLOWED to make them recall tainted products or tell us what stores they shipped the shit to...
Wall St. - how is YOUR 401K compared to 2006 riding on the inflated housing bubble
Mortgage lenders - see "House of Cards" on MSNBC
Oil speculators - why do YOU think the price is so high
Corn subsidies - maybe the most evil and useless waste of taxpayer money EVER... and it's killing us
Just to name a few.
Really? You believe the government owns all the infrastructure required to operate the internet? Or that they even built it all?
Um, yes. It was created for the military during the cold war.
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Stem cell research is vital to unlocking cures and treatments for MANY conditions that face millions of Americans.
I'm sure the religious zealots will be here soon enough, but I'm happy to see this decision.
Court lifts ban on federal funding for stem cell research
I'm not. Why not use adult stem cells? My understanding is that adult stem cells are actually better for science than embryonic. Why not work with adult stem cells rather than destroy life?
Why must our government be so dead set on destroying life? What is it that liberals find so thrilling about destroying life? I'm not talking about you, but our government.
It seems to me that embryonic stem cell research is not something our government should be funding especially when we are trillions of dollars in debt already.
Immie
Maybe we should fund something that could maybe find a cure for diseases like alzheimers, that will be a large strain on medicare now that baby boomers are developing the disease every day.
Stem cell research is vital to unlocking cures and treatments for MANY conditions that face millions of Americans.
I'm sure the religious zealots will be here soon enough, but I'm happy to see this decision.
Court lifts ban on federal funding for stem cell research
We are already behind in this department. I guess you guys have no problem with Japan and China passing us by when it comes to medical research.
Maybe we should fund something that could maybe find a cure for diseases like alzheimers, that will be a large strain on medicare now that baby boomers are developing the disease every day.
Fine! Use Adult Stem Cells!
Immie
Why don't we use anything that can find a cure.
How many conservatives are unaware how much we spend on medicare, when we should be trying to find cures for the diseases that we spend so much on.
sorry, that simply does not counter that we are running out of tax money to spend.
What happens if we get cut off? There will be no money to fund anything.
All those dead senoirs and starving children will become a reality.
And there is dead seniors every year from dementia.
A disease that also cost medicare quite a bit of money, and will cost medicare even more with baby boomers developing the disease.
As for there being no cures yet, Immie. I guess we should stop every research project that hasn't found a cure yet. Give me a break, there is no cures. LOL
there is no cures yet, because Cons let there personal beliefs get in the way of science for too long.
As I understand it, many fertilized embryos are discarded/destroyed by in vitro clinics every year. They could be used for research rather than simply being thrown away (assuming the donor parents consent). If those are the embryonic stem cells used, do you still feel the same disagreement?
I can accept the fact that some people consider human life to begin at conception, but if the embryos are being destroyed anyway, I don't understand being opposed to using them for research. Fertilizing eggs only for research purposes is a different argument.
I am of the same understanding. My concern with your idea about the donor consent is that it becomes a farm and women will be paid to "donate". Sorry, but that is just plain wrong in my humble opinion.
The fact that it is an innocent human life bothers me to no end and that is why I do not believe that the government should be taking part in its destruction.
Immie
I understand those concerns, Immie. And they are valid. on the other hand, couples in IVF treatments produce numerous - sometimes more than a dozen - valid embryos and only one or two are used. The remaining few (or ten!) are simply discarded.
And that's the case for each round of IVF. Many times couples do two or three rounds.
And literally thousands of IVF procedures are done around the world every day.
That's tens of thousands of embryos every day that could be dedicated to research without need for a "farm". Embryos that will otherwise be discarded are used to better the life of a person already living. I know it's a difficult issue, but it seems a better use than throwing them away. in my humble opinion (and on this issue, my opinion is very, very humble)
